Careers and SMV

BigTexas07 · 2016-08-31T02:03:35+00:00

If you're a Ph.D scientist or a software developer you're ahead of 99% of the world. Embrace that shit. Hell, if I had those credentials I would have no problem telling any woman that and I'd be damn proud. Don't let your desire for a hot woman with a wet hole change your identity.

makechangegreatagain · 2016-08-31T03:30:03+00:00

No one's stopping you from playing the guitar or picking up a paint brush, or wearing a leather jacket and riding a motorcycle just because you're a scientist or a programmer.. A good friend of mine is a coder and plays bass in a local metal band that's signed to an indie label.

Girls just like that bad boy aesthetic. Like if your personality just STOPS at "scientist" or "phD student" it comes off as dry and like you're career obsessed.. Which, there's nothing wrong with of course but computers and math equations are usually the last topic on this planet women want to talk about.

Plus, no offense but most dudes in the STEM fields dress like Bill Gates and his crew at the Windows 95 launch (look up the viral video on youtube). That look definitely does not get girl's panties wet.

bowie747 · 2016-08-31T01:55:58+00:00

Babes don't have nearly enough appreciation for pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics

absolut_ac · 2016-08-31T03:30:43+00:00

In my opinion, this seems to be mostly the case for Western women. When I lived in the Far East, it seemed like the women there were more concerned about a man's career than anything else, which is probably why you see a lot of Beta Bux with hot babes in Eastern countries.

As a White American male working in STEM, I tend to get more attention from foreign women than my own kind. It's insane. I feel you, OP.

NewInBoxOriginalPack · 2016-08-31T03:40:17+00:00

Science is about the Truth, which they hate. Music is about self-expression which they love. And honestly, if you're a PhD or software developer, you are doing yourself a huge favour by developing another interest, and your job should be a minimum of your identity, and separate from your personality. There are tonnes of 40 year old burnt out losers who are expert technicians of various professions who made their job into their identity and have been turned into sanctimonious retards. I definitely agree with you here.

HumanSockPuppet · 2016-08-31T05:10:16+00:00

What the fuck are you on about?

Never give a bitch a serious answer when she asks you what your job is. When a bitch asks you what you do for a living, she's testing you for provider status. A fact-oriented answer only solidifies that.

Never give a bitch a straight answer about your work. Give her one or two evasive and joking answers, and if she still presses you for the truth after that change the subject. Tell her she's being fucking boring and control the frame. Don't let it devolve into an interview.

the-capitan · 2016-08-31T10:30:57+00:00

Ph.D scientist ... STEM field professionals

stop framing yourself as a nerd/geek. frame yourself as someone with power. you don't "build websites." you "educate and entertain millions of people with your internet empire." you don't "stare into microscopes." you "save millions of lives with your research in <x>." it's even better if you can say "i'm an exec at this company" or "i run an internet/biotech company." all of these demonstrate power, and attract HBs.

if you can't say any of this sort of stuff, or frame what you do in a manner that demonstrates power, you're probably a beta in your office who takes orders all day, and she has every right to shrug you off.

StopBreakingFrame · 2016-08-31T01:49:35+00:00

Good luck on your quest, man. I'd take a 7 I can talk to over a 9 any day. But then again, I'm a dumb old man who has no chance with 9's anyway. I scream my STEM point of view from the rooftops and seek the same.

MrNatemare · 2016-08-31T12:31:04+00:00

So... you are seriously considering changing your career to get women who may or may not be interested in you at all? You don't see anything wrong with that? You do realize whoever has more power and more frame is the more powerful one right?

I am almost amused at a life decision being made in such a way.

phoenix_reborn84 · 2016-08-31T05:39:03+00:00

Social value within culture. Within American culture, a PhD is seen as nerdy, extremely beta and just plain repulsive. Shows like Big Bang theory perpetuate the stereotype. I'm a med student, shit is meaningless unless you're an attending. I worked in a lab as an undergrad student and found a lot of the Phds and post docs were super fit or jacked dudes. It still was meaningless for their game to have that PhD.

Unless you're Walter White, some pharma executive or a Prof/Principal investigator pulling in 300k, a PhD is a negative for pussy.

American culture really shits on intellect in general, it's better in Europe and Asia. Even though it is only through intellect and aggression that the American empire exists.

aanarchist · 2016-08-31T07:57:08+00:00

women value entertainment, not intelligence, baubles, not progress.

ClimbingTehLadder · 2016-08-31T10:30:51+00:00

That's because they don't understand what you do. How can she show interest without looking stupid? She doesn't know what to ask you and any answer you give will probably confuse her.

LLast night I watched a glass blower streaming on twitch. Despite my passion for programming, all I could think is how lame and boring what I do is compared to what he does. Glass blowing is sooooo much more interesting to the average person. But, he's not making very good money at all. I like money more than art.

Ronin11A · 2016-09-01T13:31:13+00:00

The fact that I conjugated a crazy functional group to an envelope protein for target-specific transfection isn't going to help me with the 9s and 10s.

Of course not. Women are children. You have to break it down for them.

When I was a personal trainer, I didn't tell my female clients that I was going to improve their lean tissue to adipose tissue ratio, help them establish a more efficient metabolic equilibrium, and improve their triglycerides.

I told them I was going to make them bust their asses until they were tight, toned, and looked bangin' in a bikini while still getting to eat food like a boss. Everything I mentioned above still happens in that process, but it's about packaging and delivery.

Nobody gave a shit about Olympic weightlifting in America until CrossFit started packaging in a flashy, intense televised broadcast filled with women in tight spandex shorts and sports bras. Suddenly, USA Weightlifting has record applicants.

If you can't translate what you do into something "cool" for them, the fault's on you.

mojo_juju · 2016-08-31T05:02:12+00:00

OP: Would you say it is important to your ego that you land an 8-10? If not to your ego, to what is it important?

How you're perceived externally by those around you (i.e. social status)?

Why is this important to you? Will it make you feel validated?

Is there something about a 8-10 vagina that is different from a 7-8 vagina?

Personally bro, I'd say avoid 8-10s. They are a maintenance nightmare, and the ROI does not exist. If anything, you'll have to fight Chads off with a stick, or trust her (Hahaha) to ignore them and prioritize you over a branchswing.

I'll take a 7-looks w/ an 8-personality over a 9 w/ 6 personality any day.

I'd say stop seeking external validation. However, if you're in that zone, you have to wonder-- what sort of insecurities do you have that requires an 8-10 to assuage them?

And once you have that 8-10, will your specific insecurity be assuaged, and what will your next want be?

(humans have infinite wants yet scarce time = fundamental economics. Once you get what you want, suddenly you'll want something else)

Also... you do pharma. just say you're a drug dealer.

immediate panty dropper

cs_throwawayyy · 2016-08-31T06:03:08+00:00

Having a solid career screams provider. You will get attention when the woman is post wall. But for the ones on the CC, they're looking for the alphas.

I don't think it's widely believed that alphas write beta software releases

ExitAscend · 2016-08-31T06:42:42+00:00

Fun fact: The most popular job for a character to have in a film that is unrelated to the plot is an architect. It's supposed to say "creative, but stable and well paid."

hb8only · 2016-08-31T06:53:46+00:00

see? you have give us a great advice and responses are like

do not change for girl, be who you are

I would take 6 with great personality, not 8-10 with bad personality..

WTF?!?! go for girls who make your dick hard by just looking at them and dont listen to those betas.

MoneyStatusLooks · 2016-08-31T09:26:55+00:00

Women don't give a shit about your career unless it can form some kind of bragging rights.

They care more about the money and lifestyle they could achieve by getting you on board. The only exception really is if the career has some kind of social proof. Successful DJ > successful entrepreneur etc.

I make a lot of money running online casinos. My GF gives no fucks about it and thinks clicking things all day on the internet is boring (although she won't say it) but she likes the lifestyle I lead that's for sure.

Jax77789 · 2016-08-31T11:13:28+00:00

If you just want to fuck her sure just lie. Anyway no woman cares for a provider nowadays. If you say your job she will just place you in an annual income bracket and that's all. Unless she is a gold digger all she cares about is your dick, your mucles and your game.

mabden · 2016-08-31T12:20:33+00:00

the "creative" types seem to be pulling hotter girls

Cut off the soles of your shoes, live in a tree, and learn how to play the flute.

Snooze212 · 2016-08-31T13:50:33+00:00

Gotta say man, saying to an ice-queen HB10 that you're a musician isn't going to change her mind about you. Career path really is one very small thing of MANY things you'd need to change to get that stone cold HB10. Lying about career path will only work when EVERYTHING else is in order.

BowlOfCandy · 2016-08-31T16:17:08+00:00

Personally, here in NYC I like to lie and say I'm a janitor for a local high school - kinda fun to see their reaction. About a third of them immediately disengage mentally - the eyes give it away, their disgust seething. The other 2/3rds have their curiosity piqued, either due to the novelty of the response or because they are socially savvy enough to reveal it was a lie.

kez88 · 2016-08-31T04:56:45+00:00

The reason you're not getting 9's and 10's isn't because of your career, it's because you think your career matters, and that thought belief and where it stems from is holding you back. You probably have other areas that are doing the same thing, and they can tell, so they dont fuck you.

How many business owners don't have a very exciting job title, but still pull hot women all the time. Sure, musicians and whatever else creative do as well, but that's because they have status, something you can achieve without it.

As an aside, the women can probably tell youre telling them about being a musician to try and impress, thus having the opposite effect it intended.

Man_Jose · 2016-08-31T05:16:48+00:00

Oh they'll get wet. Instead of saying PhD in STEM, tell them, "I save the planet and that's all you need to know"

Basically, you need to not be humble with the sluts. Be arrogant, show that you are untouchable. They'll think you're a badass guy with loads of money...and start auditioning for Mrs degree. Fuck them. Dump them.

no_face · 2016-08-31T06:17:09+00:00

My plan going forward is to start making music again so anytime I'm meeting these instagram models, I can say I'm a musican and be fully congruent to it. The fact that I conjugated a crazy functional group to an envelope protein for target-specific transfection isn't going to help me with the 9s and 10s.

You are still in PUA land and pretending to be something you think will get you chicks. Embrace who you are and stop pedestalizing the 9s and 10s

Chuckwagon1645 · 2016-08-31T06:13:50+00:00

I think they just like it when you can do shit they can't.

Hakametal · 2016-08-31T12:47:59+00:00

You're breaking Frame. Seriously, analyse your post again.

TunedtoPerfection · 2016-08-31T14:57:30+00:00

Your confusing being pre selected as an "alpha/fuckboy" vs a "beta/provider", to what you are telling women you are doing for a living.

First off, stop lying to women about what you do, as stated in this thread fuck even telling them what you do.

What is happening here is your triggering a response in them, and based on your location and their feelz it's triggering an unwanted result.

If you walk up to a girl in a hot new york nightclub and start spouting off how your a doctor, your gonna get beta shamed and never get a chance to engage them on a sexual level. Your already getting placed in the beta buck/ support role and we all know betas don't get to flirt and be physical/sexual with women until they start forking over that support/commitment. But women at a hot new york night club don't want commitment they wanna get lusted after and dominated by an alpha.

Now same situation but you use musician, or racecar driver, or whatever other alpha/bad boy career and your now an alpha to lust over them. You get your bad boy pass and can do whatever you want and they just giggle and call you "sexy".

But at the end of the day BOTH these approaches fail. Because your LEANING on your career to get women. Your career is for you, either a source for proving your path or just a way to stack that money to the ceiling to allow you to live a kick as life.

I'm in a very interesting career where I can honestly spin it both ways, and I did for a long time. At the end of the day my best response to when that comes up in conversation... "playboy super spy" then it's 10 minutes of me entertaining myself with archer references which they either get or don't get.

In any case I'm having a blast with it, they pick up on that and I get the "alpha/bad boy" pass to escalate how I want.

Don't make music because you want to meet hot chicks, your going to end up like my ex roommate, over 10G's worth of guitar/music shit , couldn't write a song to save his life stuck at a dead end job serving tables. Write/get involved with music because YOU want to do it, because it's a source of awesomeness to YOU, not to get 9's/10's

On a closing point, One of the HOTTEST women I know, both physically and mentally would most likely LOVE talking with you about your crazy functional group protein thingy. She is a biochemist that specializes in protein structures last time I checked. That type of conversation would have you both talking for hours and it would form an amazing bond between you to. But, it would not make her wet and sexually attracted to you. That type of conversation is only going to put you in a place where women start thinking how to get resources out of you. In the case of my friend, she would probably want to work on your project with you. That will be true with a 5 or a 10. 9's and 10's already have everything they want at their fingertips especially in a nightclub/nightlife type atmosphere, walk up trying to provide more of that is like offering ice to an eskimo. Offer fun and excitement on the other hand, and the fact that you spend 50 hours in a lab a week come up with proteins isn't going to matter.

Actually wtf mate you have a great answer to that "what do you do for a living" question!

a 10 ask you that just simply respond "I produce target specific proteins all day, in fact, I see a new target I need to produce a protein for right now" then point to her cleavage she will most likely have on display and laugh as you gently glide her towards the bathroom...

Fuck I'm using that next time.

crackkeeper1 · 2016-08-31T15:30:45+00:00

I'm a truck driver,

figure the rest out yourself.

zedsdedforever · 2016-08-31T15:54:58+00:00

You are the prize. YOU ARE THE PRIZE. YOU ARE THE BALLER PH.D SCIENTIST. That dime will smell that mojo from you and want it.

Dio_Brando_Joestar · 2016-08-31T16:37:18+00:00

What if you're a male Nurse tho ? ;_;

blackfin · 2016-08-31T16:45:59+00:00

Just find a way to make it more interesting, exploit the most interesting part of your job. I do information security and say I'm a professional hacker all the time. I actually used to be, but don't do anything near that anymore.

PabloEscoba · 2016-08-31T18:56:22+00:00

If a bitch is not impressed with my chosen profession then fuck her

madethewrongmistake · 2016-08-31T22:05:46+00:00

Intelligence mismatch is one of the largest factors in failed relationships. Forget those bitches.

JohnnySkidmarx · 2016-08-31T23:11:29+00:00

Well, I'm a Casting Agent for a major motion picture company. At least that's what I tell them.

zephyrprime · 2016-09-01T02:18:05+00:00

Yeah this is true but it's very obvious. Tell them you're a coke dealer and see them throw themselves at you.

turnipinurt · 2016-09-01T02:54:33+00:00

The fact that I conjugated a crazy functional group to an envelope protein for target-specific transfection isn't going to help me with the 9s and 10s.

Neither is being a musician that can play particularly well. Being on stage is what's going to do that.

I don't really get what you're getting at. There are dozens of bands in any suburban town with adequate to very good musicians that play the local scene.

Past their 20s they start to look like losers to women mid 20s or later and everyone else. The reason is, the appeal of a musician is the belief that he's going to be famous someday. Past the 20s everyone knows that they're not.

Now, I'm not saying that it's not going to be a great supplemental skill, but musician with no level of fame is going to get you nothing that you, apparently, aren't already getting.

At best it's going to help you with the 16-22 year old crowd, and with older women who are desperate for a guy that has anything going on, but you already do, so....

And with the 16-22 year olds it's only going to help so much, as dependent on your looks mostly, and your position in the band, but if you think you're going to get 9s and 10s playing for 40 people at a bar on main street....where are you getting this idea?

Top tier intelligent women absolutely get wet for STEM professionals if he's got looks and style to go with it. You're probably looking at an older crowd, but I imagine you can get a hotter 27 year old as a ph.d. STEM guy than a cute, basic 19 year old that is fooling herself into thinking you're going to be Nirvana.

I'm happy to hear if I'm wrong.

DisgruntledWolverine · 2016-08-31T19:18:35+00:00

Don't talk about your job with them. Look them deeply in the eyes and tell them you are an international arms dealer, then smirk.

shiggityshoo · 2016-08-31T22:40:29+00:00

I'm a unionized tradesman making awesome money - but I just tell people I'm in construction. Especially women, if they inquire as to what I do for work. I'd rather let who I am do the talking, not what I can provide for them. Not interested in a girl who's only after money and status, AWALT, blah blah.

jewishsupremacist88 · 2016-08-31T04:55:12+00:00

hey dude, i work as a data analyst and make okay money. a few years ago, i was in college and had no money and i think i even had a part time job that paid minimum wage. i got way more girls back then than i do now.

PhilipHimself · 2016-08-31T08:13:29+00:00

that's 2016 for you my bro.

Title	Careers and SMV
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