Even Alphas get cheated on. AWALT

bbmc7gm6fm · 2016-12-18T18:34:15+00:00

Since that night he will not even talk to me about what happened. He has never asked me any questions and within a week had rented me a condo close by and moved me out of our family home. Almost exactly a month after the incident he had me served divorce papers and refuses to speak to me about any of it. My children know what happened as of course so many people we know were there to witness and people always talk. There was some brief legal trouble for my husband because of the fight but I believe that has been resolved with little issue for him thank goodness. I am so ashamed of myself. I am so desperate for help here...

More men need to learn to behave like this guy. Show no mercy and fuckin' WALK AWAY!

wellsking · 2016-12-18T22:09:55+00:00

I think in this case your husband is right to divorce you and move on with his life. When you met him you were attracted to thrills and bad boys. Your husband became a father, grew up and became a responsible man. Gave you the life he promised you and you became bored. His loyalty and devotion to his family didn't turn you on so you went looking for cheap thrills. Relieving your boredom was more important to you than protecting your family. I think you regret that you got caught. I think you feel very sorry for yourself and are hurt by the consequences of your actions but I don't think you have real remorse for what you did to your family. As a matter of fact I think the only reason you still want your husband is because he fought the OM and won. What if the OM had beat the crap out of your husband? What if your husband had seen the fight coming and run away? Then who would you be all hot and bothered for? I suspect that had that fight turned out a different it wouldn't be your husband that you would be chasing, you would want the OM. And this goes beyond the cheating. You publicly disrespected and humiliated your husband by blatantly touching and flirting with the OM in front of all your friends. I think both you and your husband will be better off divorced. Since you like tough guys and thrills so much you will probably be happier free and single.

^ This person who left this comment gets it down to a tee. Well played, well played. You're right the guy does sound alpha too, she got bored of her house trained alpha and wanted tingles from chad.. Big big lesson in here for all.

BreathOfDick · 2016-12-18T19:53:27+00:00

As a guy who still wants to raise a traditional nuclear family, things like this really make my passion for that go cold. Vetting only helps so much but there is always a RISK no matter what you do..

thehonestdouchebag · 2016-12-18T19:14:43+00:00

This is so disgusting. She didn't even stand up for her husband, I know that hurt.

TonyZ554 · 2016-12-18T20:25:19+00:00

She doesn't regret doing it, she regrets getting caught. In her mind, her only mistake was not being able to hide it better.

p3n1x · 2016-12-18T20:58:56+00:00

Our problem started when I began to feel bored with life.

AWALT, and the only part of the story that matters.

Don't let your ego get in the way, to think you are so awesome sauce that she "wouldn't dare" want something else.

Luce_Bree · 2016-12-19T02:09:42+00:00

Wow. I read that first paragraph and then got to this sentence:

Our problem started when I got bored.

For those too lazy to read the original thread, this woman spent the entire first paragraph talking about how her tough, confident, dominant and sexy husband--who continued his kickboxing training and remained nice and fit--provided her with a great life for 15 years. Apparently they even maintained a good sex life after all that time.

And it STILL wasn't good enough.

Never. Getting. Married.

landon042 · 2016-12-18T19:20:29+00:00

I'm glad everyone knows and she had to face the consequences of her actions.

Growing up, the neighbors all knew each other and talked. There was a sense of community. Now, visiting my family home, it is very different. This lack of community allows people to get away with infidelity more now.

EDIT: typo

Treasure_hand · 2016-12-18T20:20:07+00:00

There's always someone bigger and badder than you out there, remember that in you endeavors to be high ranking in the social construct. Sometimes you meet people that stomp you out, sometimes your woman does. Oldest and noblest, it's not yours it's just your turn. Sadly, as much as I wished to have the things this guy did, this is truth. Being at the top of the pyramid only means you get challenged more often.

Docbear64 · 2016-12-18T23:07:18+00:00

The most sickening part of this story and to me the real ill of the modern perspective of relationships and the morality of some women is the fact that you can be attractive, a great provider, a good father, a good husband , and yet still because the woman is bored with her everyday activities she can decide to step out on you . Sex with the dude she cheated on her husband with wasn't even as good but because it was different and made her feel "naughty" it was worth her pursuit . I can't fault men for wanting to be married , I can't fault people for craving that deep sense of emotional intimacy from a person , but damn it if stories like this don't make me re- appreciate how there is no fairy tale happy ending .

This man did everything right not just in a TRP sense but in a pure- societal sense of what a man should be and provide for his family and after getting just about everything a woman can ask for and not having any internal desire to create a spark of excitement in her own life she betrayed the trust of her husband .

I know not all women are like this but investing that much in a partner to find out that your partner was a piece of shit in waiting seems ludicrous to me . My heart bleeds for the man .

[deleted] · 2016-12-18T23:24:54+00:00

Women still slut it up in countries where you can be fucking stoned for it. Nothing trumps tingles.

turok281 · 2016-12-18T18:56:50+00:00

This idiot thought a little rando dick was worth potentially ruining the rest of her life. Well, it did ruin your life and now all you can do is seek pity. I'm so happy for your (ex)husband, you stupid bitch. You've been found out to be just another skank.

BobbyPeru · 2016-12-19T04:52:24+00:00

If my wife even kissed another dude, it would be over immediately. I don't get guys who stay with chicks that cheat on them.

This dude played it well

[deleted] · 2016-12-18T23:31:52+00:00

One doesn't Alpha up to protect himself from women as that's not possible.

He makes changes so he can determine his path rather than just have life happen to him

peterson2004 · 2016-12-18T23:17:16+00:00

Coincidentally, the betrayed husband posted at that same site looking for support.

Google

loveshack intense anger

RealMcGonzo · 2016-12-19T02:21:12+00:00

What a great lesson for this sub. Chick scores well, ensnares a mate that is at least nearly an alpha if not through and through. Chick decides to get a little side action with not one but two men at once. Flirts obnoxiously with her side action in front of her friends. Husband finds out, new boyfriend fucking threatens husband. Chick says nothing. Husband beats the snot out of boyfriend and chick's second boyfriend. Chick pleads for their lives. Husband walks. Suddenly chick realizes her husband is bad ass and wonders how to get him back.

LMAO.

Even if he took her back . . . shit especially if he took her back, she'd be up to the same games even sooner.

Don't miss the fact that the other women (her "friends") watching in awe was at least half the reason she banged those two guys.

40_SixandTwo · 2016-12-19T04:34:38+00:00

I remember job I had 2 years ago there was a couple that worked there. The dude, we'll call Dave was a jacked country boy who spent his weekends hunting, working on trucks and doing other typical manly shit. He lived with his girlfriend, chewed dip constantly, shot guns, worked out five days a week.

His girl that worked there to was banging one of the guys at this place, the dude she was banging, Ben was some video game nerd who still lived with his parents. He was mad tall but had that fat flabby body that looked like a pyramid on it's base, you know the type with the narrow ass shoulders, skinny arms but an overflowing fat waist line and man tits. He also had a bunch of Warcraft and Star Wars tattoos.

I don't know how the hell it happened, it was fucking weird.

Fedor_Gavnyukov · 2016-12-19T05:55:34+00:00

lesson learned: she wanted excitement. her life was getting boring with PTA meetings and other useless repetitive garbage. hubby might be alpha, but something was lacking for her. she thought getting side cock was a good idea. this is btw true of many if not most women. once excitement goes out the window, so does her pussy.

another lesson learned: read her post carefully. she realizes that her comfort life is over. she moved out. her kids are not with her and no more support from the hubby, who provided everything for the last 15 years. that's about 90% of what she's worried about losing.

a comment in that thread nailed it:

I think you regret that you got caught. I think you feel very sorry for yourself and are hurt by the consequences of your actions but I don't think you have real remorse for what you did to your family.

JointDexter · 2016-12-19T06:23:57+00:00

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/infidelity/540457-intense-anger

The husband posting on the same forum seems a bit suspicious. I smell a troll.

Overkillengine · 2016-12-19T08:23:52+00:00

Many men make the mistake of assuming Alpha is a self-declared final status they can reach that is permanent and that they can relax. Like it some sort of fucking echsbawks achievement or a Pookymons.

WRONG.

It is a conditional state that will always fluctuate depending on you, the woman, and the context. Believing otherwise is just wishful thinking/ego protection.

This situation, real or not, is a prime example. A woman got bored in her current stable relationship and sought out some strange to satisfy her need for excitement. If she isn't getting her drive for excitement "filled" by you or managed in some other manner, she will stray at the next plausible opportunity.

Had the interloper male won the fight, she'd be singing an entirely different tune as she'd still have society enforced provisioning from her soon to be ex and wild dicking from the new man, and she'd be heaping scorn and derision upon her ex for being weak enough to lose. Her current stance is further reinforced by outside agents once her husband showed himself to be the higher value male.

Which leads to the second lesson:

MORALITY AND OTHER SOCIAL CONTRACTS ARE WORTHLESS WITHOUT THE STRENGTH TO BACK THEM UP.

You are male, your role is to be strong. Others will beg for the chance to forgive your flaws so long as you are strong, and will hound you until death if you are not. Disagreeing with this is certainly possible, but it is as constructive as disagreeing with sunlight.

[deleted] · 2016-12-19T01:24:01+00:00

This tells me to work out, train, and be as fit as possible. If he was a weaker man this could have gone differently.

Iceman3514 · 2016-12-18T18:46:16+00:00

You guys are literally killing me right now.

This and the other post are literally the only thing that sends me into a panic. This can't be par for the course. I never saw anything like this growing up. I'm beyond scared

StuttererXXX · 2016-12-19T18:08:28+00:00

This is another post of her: " I don't understand how he can be so cold about this. I worry that he is just so strong he will just move past it and give me no chance"

My god, how much more proof of RP theory do people need?

Hjalmbere · 2016-12-19T07:15:51+00:00

TLDR: Women who are turned on by bad boys lose their tingles when their bad boy becomes a dependable provider. Even if former bad boy stays ripped.

Disclaimer: Not sure if story linked by OP was written by a woman. Either made up or written by the actual husband.

Anyway, something very similar happened to a friend of my brother: He used to be a professional fighter, did time for a violent crime. Meets HB8, turns his life around and fathers a bunch of kids. Stays in shape. Has a career. After 8 years he finds out that his ex is cheating on him with multiple criminal gang members she's met on the Internet. He is devastated.

ckp2906 · 2016-12-19T10:09:38+00:00

Some things were too text book AWALT, then i was thinking it might be fake. But i don't think so though.

lol at the " Now i realise that i actually had a tough guy already and i regret it !! "

So if he hadn't acted masculine in the end, so wouldn't be sorry

AshyBoneVR4 · 2016-12-19T11:45:50+00:00

Seriously, read the full post. It's fuckin art. That man is a prime example of what a man in real life should be.

johnsonsson · 2016-12-19T18:32:43+00:00

One of the moms who was recently divorced brought along a guy she wasseeing and a few of his friends one night.

the recently divorced/single woman is a threat you should never underestimate when you lead your woman through life. you have to shame her like there is no tomorrow. when your woman dares to meet her, you must dread the fuck out of her. recently single women have as much respect for their friend's life as a suicide bomber.

Oneof the moms from the group was leaving and her husband saw what was going onand called my husband.

More men must act like this fella. The only way to put women in their place is by reestablishing collective shame in society and not let any smisstep be unjudged.

[deleted] · 2016-12-19T22:02:24+00:00

All of these guys were bodybuilder type guys and they were so brash and almost obnoxious, but they seemedso confident and edgy I just felt attracted almost immediately. Now I see that I had thereal tough guy/bad boy already and betrayed him with a pitiful pretender.

In the end, that was the biggest sin committed. A woman giving up her most valuable resource to a "pitiful pretender." It is also one of the many reason's why TRP is so vilified. TRP goes against the "just be yourself" mantra. Sperm is plentiful and eggs are precious. Instinctively and genetically, a woman has to get it right by breeding with the best genes she can get. The survival of the human race is ingrained and dependent on this. A beta in hiding robs her of making a decision on breeding selectivity.

That's because he lost the fight. If the "pitiful pretender" won the fight, then the speed of the hamster wheel on why she dumps the husband would open a rift in the space/time continuum.

royal_fucktard · 2016-12-20T01:03:55+00:00

Funny how she sees her fuckboy getting his ass kicked and immediately dries up like the Sahara and decides "never again".

HA! Enlightened instantaneously when weakness is displayed.

RedPillHanSolo · 2016-12-19T03:33:03+00:00

The Alpha handled this Beta.

If AWALT, there is no surprise. No reason to get angry or reason to violence. Risk of death or lawsuit. Let the other guy know you get it, it's her fault, and hard next your wife.

suske127 · 2016-12-19T04:18:18+00:00

The ultimate shit test. If he stays with the woman he's lost and he's screwed forever. This is a big reason to not get married. If he puts up with her cheating she'll do it again

[deleted] · 2016-12-19T05:22:12+00:00

Holy fuck I shouldn't have read that, it pissed me off!! That stupid bitch. She'll never get back what she threw away. God people are so fucking stupid

J_bravo_ · 2016-12-19T14:50:24+00:00

With TRP's proclivity to lifting I'm a surpised that everyone is ignoring the elephant in the room.

Yes, AWALT, but the second lesson here is that the two guys who lift got the shit beaten out of them by the kickboxer. I fully understand and endorse lifting, it does make you look and feel better, but you're a fool if you think that looks and feelings are going to help you when push literally comes to shove.

While getting cheated on does not qualify as "alpha", it's the kickboxer who walked away with his face intact and the woman pining over him, not the bodybuilders.

Andgelyo · 2016-12-19T15:38:47+00:00

Her dumb ass should learn to space between letters when typing

Seoul_Brother · 2016-12-19T19:41:31+00:00

I think another thing men should add on to their list is to lift always, but also learn how to fight. Sounds like the soon to be ex husband at least had some knowledge on how to take people down. Lifting helps, but being able to use those muscles to take down other men and be faster in fight or flight situations wins. Seen way too many big dudes that don't know how to actually fight.

Haven't fought anyone in many years, but I still go to kick boxing classes and keep myself on my toes.

Also pretty admirable of the guy to choose to house the wife despite what she did; now that's coming from a place of authority.

Lsegundo · 2016-12-19T20:26:06+00:00

fucking awesome share OP. So many TRP truths from the cheating wife.

If you're wife is going out with the girls drinking your marriage is headed for trouble.

If you are stupid enough to even get into a marriage, I was, your life is probably heading for trouble.

Pro tip: The husband is a boss for moving out in a week and filing for divorce within a month. He is denying her any opportunity to discuss it. She is a sloot and there is nothing to discuss. She doesn't deserve the chance to hamster spin it or relieve her conscience by discussing it. NEXT.

The sloots lawyer is going to spin moving out as "abandoning the family home" It sounds like the two douchebags started the fight and the guy had no choice but to defend himself. The lawyer will try to paint him as violent and out of control. I am not sure what the best legal strategy is to try and get the house and fair custody.

AnjaJutta · 2016-12-19T09:18:28+00:00

This story is so beautiful and meaningful I will print it and frame it so I can read it every day.

Lsegundo · 2016-12-19T23:59:27+00:00

I read many of the comments from the original thread. The absolute truth no one bothered to tell her is that her perfect alpha ex-husband:

will easily find a woman 10-15 years his junior (and probably hers too)
that are fitter and sexier than her
that never cheated on him
or left GNO headed for a threesome with 2 chads

possibility of a second chance is EXTREMELY low.

and if he just wants to have some fun he is going to have more women that will gladly accept casual sex than he has time to fuck

TexanEagle92 · 2016-12-20T00:33:14+00:00

Only If you are a bad alpha or a alpha in training

Toussant · 2016-12-20T06:22:29+00:00

Or maybe the husband isn't that alpha? I mean he did fuck up the vetting process by choosing her.

Hard to blame the guy, things seemed ok for 15 years. Then she "got bored". They were on the up and up, from financial strains to a good neighborhood and activities for the kids. He did exactly what he was supposed to do.

Just about the only thing he could've done to avoid this was to follow the advice of the book "Ugly Wife Is a Treasure at Home"? (Didn't read it but assuming from the title).

turok281 · 2016-12-19T11:00:11+00:00

Interesting story but the conclusion you derived "Lift like it's your life depends on it" is lazy advice.

Analysing deep further you can drawn some insightful conclusions/lessons from stories like that. Most men aren't aware but women like men has an innate tendency to maximize their offspring. Fool is the one who thinks women are built for monogamy.

When you get in a LTR assuming you play your cards right in the first 4/5 years your girl will be highly attracted to you. After those first years things will get harder. Why? Women need to vary their genetic offspring in another words they need to combine their eggs with different alpha male sperm.

4/5 years is what it takes to a woman enjoy from a genetic material and protection from a male after that it will surge a natural tendency to feel attracted to other males.

So what are the lessons to take from here?

First - For those who play the LTR game just be extra cautious after those 4 years. I'm not from the anglosphere and where I live is very normal for women in their 20s to enter in LTR and I've seen countless times this happening.
Second - If you're into plate game just use it as an advantage and don't be timid in seducing married or LTR women. They'll be fantastic plates because they're into sex with almost zero hassle. Just be careful and be discrete about it or you can get your ass kicked.

lovepankydud · 2016-12-19T00:18:37+00:00

Which one of your Redpillers posted this over there lol

You really "Had Everything". You chose an Apt username. The advice given above is solid. SUck it up. Tell him you are truly sorry. Let him know that you do not want the divorce but you will not contest it. Then ask him when he will communicate with you. You need to give him time. Because your Husband is an Alpha. And they rarely look back. Good Luck. Fight for your family and for your marriage. But also respect his wishes. You can only reconcile if he chooses to. And right now he chooses not to. HM

[deleted] · 2016-12-19T13:22:49+00:00

The red flags that were missed by the husband:

1) She's bored. That one is huge, and I have no doubts that these were telegraphed to him somehow.

2) Going out with friends without him. Essentially a girls night out more or less. Happily married wives don't do this on a regular basis.

Yeah he was alpha as fuck all, but he was lacking in red pill knowledge. And when he stopped getting in fights, because he became a father and realized that was fucking stupid when you have lives depending on you, he became more beta in her eyes. And there's probably more ways that he became beta as well, because it's the natural aging of a man to be honest. If he had some basic red pill knowledge this could have been avoided, maybe. But that's why we all ended up here.

Bitchezbecrayy · 2016-12-19T02:57:32+00:00

No doubt, meta OP's future will be along the lines of this to a T-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aN5s9N_pTUs

Oz70NYC · 2016-12-19T07:55:16+00:00

I wish I knew this guy's name so I coukd buy him a scotch and say "Keep standing tall, brother."

Toussant · 2016-12-20T06:11:20+00:00

Agree with this poster on there:

As a matter of fact I think the only reason you still want your husband is because he fought the OM and won. What if the OM had beat the crap out of your husband? What if your husband had seen the fight coming and run away? Then who would you be all hot and bothered for? I suspect that had that fight turned out a different it wouldn't be your husband that you would be chasing, you would want the OM.

And this goes beyond the cheating. You publicly disrespected and humiliated your husband by blatantly touching and flirting with the OM in front of all your friends. I think both you and your husband will be better off divorced. Since you like tough guys and thrills so much you will probably be happier free and single.

plutorising92 · 2016-12-19T18:39:42+00:00

I know all the comments here are saying that the man handles it well and I agree. But while reading the story one thing really struck me - she said he was very loving, sweet and attentive during the marriage. As Rollo said, attention is the coin of realm in girl world.

I think he gave too much of it to her and converted himself into a beta post-LTR. Anyway entering into an LTR and marriage means harder work to create mystery. Comfort is the antithesis of arousal after all. Women want drama all their life, that's just the way they are. Since he wasn't providing any of it by being a certain way.. she sought it elsewhere. She even says that the other loser was arrogant or something and that's what gave her the tingles.

After having caught her though.. he truly handled it in the most perfect way possible.

[deleted] · 2016-12-20T10:43:39+00:00

Hilarious that he bashed both of them at once.

ecosci · 2016-12-22T01:49:07+00:00

Listen,husband=beta bux, boyfriend=sucker there is no such thing as alpha husband or ltr now you can be an alpha to someone else outside of your marriage she will always desire what she cant have.

The_BitterTruth · 2016-12-19T06:59:00+00:00

Damn, reading this kind of makes me feel bad for fucking married women.

purplecabbage · 2016-12-18T23:30:38+00:00

Seems like a lot of bros on here are calling her a skank or worse. Lets not forget they were married for 15 years. I believe people are not supposed to be monogamous for long periods like that, from an evolutionary perspective (generally). I read her whole post and from what she wrote, her husband was indeed alpha but so was the other dude she was seeing.

Maybe we should look at AWALT from outside the societal box we're all in and see that her mating behavior makes sense after 15 years of monogamy, even with an alpha.

traveldeedee · 2016-12-19T06:02:04+00:00

I never understand why the guy who's cheated on would beat the guy who did the cheating with the woman. It's the woman that should've been beaten. If chad A didn't come around, she'd been cheated with chad B, and C and D...

STNKMyyy · 2016-12-19T03:11:02+00:00

Man he's not chad, he's a BP.

Update, The child is mine

It's been along time since my last post. A lot has changed over the last few weeks. As of now I have agreed to reconcile with my wife. A big reason why is because the child is mine. She also seems very remorseful and willing to do anything to fix the damage she caused.

Even though we are staying together we will be getting divorced the papers have been filed. It was her idea she has given up almost everything. I will keep the house and custody for both children. I was kind of hesitant at first but everything seems to work in my favor either way it goes. My friend who's also my lawyer told I would be stupid if I didn't agree it was just to go of an offer and he's right.

I plan to move back home to before the end of the month that's when my lease ends. I don't know if we have what it takes to make this work but I am willing to try.

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/marriage-life-partnerships/infidelity/517119-how-do-i-handle-17.html#post6524237

Title	Even Alphas get cheated on. AWALT
Author	turok281
Upvotes	305
Comments	243
Date	December 18, 2016 6:14 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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