Any guys here on the more average side have a good amount of success?

RobustMastiff · 2024-09-06T23:22:35+00:00

I’m below average but I’m a bartender. 1 or 2 new partners a month on average with fairly minimal effort because the girls come to me

rzerx · 2024-09-07T02:21:30+00:00

Good question. The mindset for success is you are the best out there, you got the biggest dick and you are the man women want. You got to think in terms of the best as in best in whatever makes you you as in sports, your job, hobby, etc.

Women will notice this cuz they'll feel secure that you're secure with yourself as a man who doesn't waste time, works hard, is passionate and who has a world. They want someone who has a world, not someone who's part of the world.

That's how they get intrigued and excited about you. They'll start asking you questions about you. All of a sudden you're that man and they want to know as much about you they they can before other women do.

You'd be surprised by the attention from women you'd get by adopting this mindset. It's so cool it's scary

Khower · 2024-09-06T22:43:37+00:00

I think I would have been average without intervention. I'm 5'8, balding, but I'm in better shape than 99% of the population and therefore having a leaner face and muscles puts me in the attractive range

Make your own fate bro

EP_CJ · 2024-09-06T22:27:46+00:00

I’d definitely consider myself average looks. I get good success from daygame but I have to put in ALOT of volume for it to pay off

Osiris_Raphious · 2024-09-07T00:42:59+00:00

Simple things; Be fun, be playful, be friendly. Dont take anything she says too seriously, so her shit tests slide right off. Tease, breach her personal space, nag and compliment. I like to just throw in how she is beautiful so its no wonder she gets attention, then ignore her for a bit like give visual attention to other women whilst chatting her uo, until she gives you some strong eye contact then engage with strong eye contact and confident actions/body language.

It doesnt matter what you talk about, or how many IOIs you et before you approach, or early on. If a woman is in a pub or club and is giving you the time to chat her up, she maybe interested so continue, until such time as she isnt reciprocating your input. Its a fine line between them playing hard to get, and them not interested. Since they are protective (dont want to come off as sexually active sluts), and they get approached a lot, so it is upto you to carry the intiial opener for how ever long it takes. You have to show her interest, both physical and mental. You have both respect her, and degrade her so she isnt on a pedestool.

Thats why its called a game, because you play it together. Relationships form on a higher level of interaction, more mental, more investment. Hookups are more superficial. So it doesnt matter how much you earn, what your job is, how hot you are. IF you can give the vibes, fun times, great banter, and right attention she is seeking, you can get her to want to have sex with you.

FYI, none of this works if she doesnt find you attractive or your vibe isn't her style. Dont linger around women that are both ignoring you, not giving you eye contact, are not looking you up and down when you chat them up, and are not talking back(shyness is one thing, ignoring you is another there is a fine line there).

And thats where expirience, and social proof comes in. If you walk into a club with your mates, alol laughing having a good time, displaying confidence and commanding space, you will get looks and interest out of the gate. Alone you have to approach and carry that energy with her, even if there are other guys there cockblocking you.

AlchemistEngr · 2024-09-07T03:16:11+00:00

Over the years I've known a few overweight guys who did well despite. Their secret was being good talkers. Plus juggling multiple prospects at the same time. I'm not talking clubs and same night hook-ups, but meeting/pursuing potential girlfriends. I can't date more than one woman at a time because I would lose track of what I talked about with which one and what each one told me about herself. So it was basically being an extrovert, projecting optimism, and a good mood. People are drawn to people who make them feel good. Also finding ways to spend time with her where you can get to know her without it being an official date; thus her guard is down. That actually reminds me a of an episode of Seinfeld where this guy was getting friendly with Jerry's hot GF. He bet her a steak dinner that Richard Nixon's middle name was Mortimer. Of course he's wrong so she's all stoked about he owes her a steak dinner. If he had just asked her out on a date, she would have declined as she was with Jerry. But settling a bet is not a date.

pissshitfuckcuntcock · 2024-09-07T01:57:38+00:00

I have a mate who gets nothing from apps. He’s got a great job, but he’s on the heavier side and has a moon face. But fuck me, get this guy in a public setting and he is Brad Pitt. Can confidently chat up the hottest Woman in the room, get her number and set up a date for the next night. I’ve witnessed him do it time and time again. It’s like a magic trick. Just born with the gift of the gab.

SnooHesitations4922 · 2024-09-07T01:05:07+00:00

I was an all state d tackle in highschool, pretty well known for my work ethic but I was never conventually attractive by societal standards.

I didn't hit my stride with casual dating and hooking up until I realized I can't exert the same kind of maximum effort that I put into other areas of life into winning a woman over.

As a jock and an overachiever I was used to lifting my emotions and raising my energy to get anything done.

It took casually talking to hundreds of attractive women to get the skills and nuisances that make them feel comfortable. I concluded that I had to stop caring about the outcomes, lower my ki when talking so my emotions stay level and I don't get "giddy" in the face of beauty.

Calm down and don't get excited when speaking to a woman. The LESS u try to win her over, the more she will try to win you over.

FakeSafeWord · 2024-09-07T00:04:12+00:00

Be bold and fun and escalate every single opportunity.

Badboyslc · 2024-09-07T06:26:08+00:00

Believe you're the catch... if you don't do whatever you need to do... achieve, work out, get degrees... until you do

Seductive_allure3000 · 2024-09-06T23:05:56+00:00

I'd say I'm average and I've had success with Women. It's all about your vibe.

LonerOnSorensen · 2024-09-06T23:36:40+00:00

In terms of increasing the pure number of hookups ? You must lead every stage of the interaction, be able to quickly identify the ladies that won't follow and move on from them. Also not care much about looks lol.

tzorGC · 2024-09-06T23:16:43+00:00

I am not average persay. but I have average friends I have helped. The key above all us is real humor. You get a girl to laugh the options to move forward become way easier. You become the funny charismatic guy to her not the average looking. Girls are emotional and they more than us know what it's like to be chosen just on looks. Make them interested in you be intrigued by them. Open ended questions are your best friend. Use her answers to advance your humor to her personality. These are all social skills though which can be used only with true confidence so fuck thinking you're average. You're only average if you tell yourself you are.

JackSquirts · 2024-09-07T00:50:30+00:00

Define average. Average looks, intelligence, personality - probably not many. High on two of the three, and learn how to flirt = way above average in overall attractiveness.

CrazyRepulsive8244 · 2024-09-08T04:21:59+00:00

I'm average. Average height, build, face. Handsome to some, probably not so handsome to others. I only go after 7+ and I attract women that make other men jealous. This is verified by then directly telling me, and obvious signs. My current gf is at least an 8, probably higher based on all the stares she gets when I take her out.

Id say I attract these women by being consistent. Consistently confident masculine and steady in emotion and confident in the face of rejection during my pursuit. I make sure to make moves when appropriate, and I don't get butthurt when rejected. I read the signs they give off, and respond appropriately.

It took me around 6 months of consistent game to get my current girlfriend. The thing that got her was a display of masculinity, and it flipped a switch in her brain from resisting attraction to being instantly very attracted. That's why consistency is important.

aeroaca9 · 2024-09-07T03:37:03+00:00

No. 0 partners in the last 1.5 years, and previous 3 exes asked me out, not the other way around.

daddyvow · 2024-09-07T04:55:04+00:00

I’d say I’m average but max out what my strengths are. I’m short (5’6”) and have a small frame but I workout frequently, eat healthy, have a good beard, get haircuts regularly, and dress well. So I am very fit and look well put together. I also make a decent amount of money so that’s never issue which definitely turns on women. Also being very confident and having a good sense of humor makes me more attractive.

OkResponsibility2470 · 2024-09-07T05:23:17+00:00

If you are objectively average (like 5.5) you’re going to need a lot of volume and your game has to be on point to do well without shooting down tbh. I doubt most of these “avg guys” in here are actually avg if they are doing well without these two criteria

Such_Orchid_7759 · 2024-09-06T23:41:47+00:00

Not really. I haven’t seen it. Almost everyone who ends up saying they’re doing well and is “average” ends up saying, “I mean yeah, I used to model part time” or “I’m 6’4” etc.

That or their version of beautiful is your average woman on Reddit. (300lb+)

Sandvicheater · 2024-09-06T23:52:53+00:00

My best friend since High School has been mid as fuck, average height, average face, average dick, etc.

That being said he's one of the funniest motherfuckers that keep with the likes of old schools comedic legends like George Carlin or Richard Pryor.

Not to mention he's a well paid programmer (not doctor or lawyer money mind you)

So he's got both personality and money working for him and he's able to "compensate" for the lack of any value in the beauty dept. and is able to pull consistent 7-8's and occasional 9 all the time.

Pipelayer72 · 2024-09-07T04:20:53+00:00

Stop overthinking it. I’m 6’5 220lbs and above “average” attractiveness (imo). But I just don’t put out any effort to meet women or go places where you would do so. Sure I can get women if I put in the necessary effort but it’s not as easy as walking by a woman and them fucking you..I feel like the internet has given guys that type of idea. That’s not true at all.

PipeDredd · 2024-09-07T12:52:07+00:00

Just stay fit and be confident, when I was in college I dated a lot of girls and it was easy, now I'm fat and depressed and no one notices me, I miss those days.

MedvedevTheGOAT · 2024-09-07T13:08:29+00:00

Average guy here. You have to work on your looks enough so that you're proud of yourself. I've worked on my posture and that shows. Confidence is paramount, as cliche as it sounds, and it has always worked for me.

PinkFloyd_rs · 2024-09-07T17:07:16+00:00

Literally 0. I feel like I'm decent looking too

lazzoe · 2024-09-07T10:10:48+00:00

Average dude here. I do street approaches but have fun with girls. I come off funny but alpha. Chicks love that blend in a man. I average 5 - 8 girls a month

Tiny-Parsley-3959 · 2024-09-07T18:20:03+00:00

1% in money, 188 cm tall, very well-built and athletic. I have good facial features. I’d rate myself a 7.5, in my humble opinion.

But let me tell you this – women don’t just fall at your feet. These attributes may help ease initial contact, but if you don’t have game, there’s no chance of success at the end of the night, no jiggy-whiggy, nada, null. I know this because when I’m not in the right mood, my game is horrific and lousy, and the results are equally terrible.

SnooHesitations4922 · 2024-09-08T15:26:19+00:00

I'm not shocked, neither should you be. Women want what they can't have, which is the entire basis of all game and seduction. The downfall is when you are genuinely disinterested is when the game backfires because the less interested you are in a woman the more interested she is in you.

MathematicianThin758 · 2024-09-10T15:43:07+00:00

Many people find that confidence, charm, and personality play crucial roles in their success with relationships and hookups. Developing a strong sense of self, being genuine, and focusing on your unique qualities can make a significant difference.

Here are a few key elements to consider:

Confidence: Believe in your worth and carry yourself with self-assurance. Confidence can be incredibly attractive and often outweighs physical attributes.
Charisma: Cultivate your social skills, sense of humor, and emotional intelligence. Engaging conversations and a positive demeanor can draw people in.
Passion and Interests: Pursue your passions and interests. Being enthusiastic about something you love can make you more intriguing and attractive.
Authenticity: Be yourself rather than trying to fit a mold. Genuine connections are built on authenticity.

Title	Any guys here on the more average side have a good amount of success?
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Date	September 6, 2024 9:56 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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