Is it true that sex/relationships aren't as great as everyone makes them out to be? Should the pussy be taken off the pedestal?

themostgianthorse · 2022-06-16T14:57:38+00:00

Perception.

When you have regular access to sex/intimacy, it’s a small part of a good life.

When you have no or infrequent access to sex/intimacy, it’s an enormous part of a shitty life.

premedchunsa · 2022-06-16T14:51:10+00:00

Bro, sex/relationship IS great. But putting anything on a pedestal is bad because you tend to get desperate. Girls hate that shit. Aka nice guys finish last. That’s why everyone here tells you to focus on yourself because once you become a higher value man, you’ll have more options and not come off desperate. It’s all about equalizing the playing field. Once you’re attractive, you’ll have more confidence to hit on girls without having to play games. So to answer your question, should it be your priority? Yes. Should it be your idol? No.

SocialReject101 · 2022-06-16T13:29:28+00:00

This entire sub is putting pussy on a pedestal while furiously coping through "be yourself, better yourself but not for women" mentality. World revolves around pussy whether you like it or not. Only way is to manipulate your way through it and mitigate damage done to your confidence in this competition.

TriLinin · 2022-06-16T20:35:05+00:00

What kind of incel fucking question is this?

No one that gets pussy puts it in a pedestal.

Sex and relationships are great as they are kept and maintained within healthy boundaries.

Sex and relationships are part of life. A good burger is great to be but I do not put it on a pedestal.The same thing goes for vacations, and even alone time.

What should be taken out of the pedestal or eliminated is pornography, and even TV with unhealthy and unrealistic sex and relationship standards.

Im tired of reading questions like these.

Dumy_Hmn · 2022-06-16T15:41:28+00:00

Idk dude. Personally i dont feel like I'm putting pussy on a pedestal.

For me it goes beyond that. It is about the journey. I love the nervousness of talking to a new girl, the excitement, when you say a risky line and you don't know if it is going to work or not, the funny experiences you have with each woman.

I love the feeling of seeing my self improve each day, not only with women but with my life in general, getting to be the best version of myself to attract new people into my life. Idk dude, but this makes me feel alive.

Yeah sex is great, but I feel that it is just the cherry on top of the cake. The experiences and struggles makes it worth it for me.

GotThaAcid5tab · 2022-06-16T13:59:30+00:00

I always found the honeymoon stage etc is great but it wears off.. although when you have a genuine bond with someone, that is something you cannot replace.

Unfortunately all the hoops and shit-tests a guy often has to jump through makes it way more trouble than its worth half the time. Dating apps seem to have bought out some horrific narcissism in lots of women today. If you use and abuse women, they want commitment. If you want to commit to them, they want to use and discard you. So it seems anyway..

I can happily bust a nut any time I want. No shit tests or being judged or feeling less than. Sex alone feels a little hollow for me personally. I don't need to use someone to boost my ego.

It's not about improving yourself so much, but learning to actually love yourself (not a reference to wanking) is a huge thing everyone in life should strive for.

AccomplishedMix6276 · 2022-06-16T15:45:05+00:00

Sex and relationships are two very different things. Think of amazing sex like heroin, it’s a dopamine hit and can be highly addicting to some people. Relationships are more about forming a connection with another person, which is as deep as life gets in my opinion and takes time.

That said, you can’t help but hold it “high and mighty.” While people vary on their needs, your brain is engineered to make finding partners it’s biggest priority.

But it works both ways: women have the same needs, which makes this whole thing mutual — that is, it’s not a hunter/hunted scenario.

CocoBabeNYC · 2022-06-16T14:49:21+00:00

Women and sex are wonderful things, but they don't need to rule your world and they can't even make you happy.

Ambitious-Ice2357 · 2022-06-16T14:48:24+00:00

Pussy is like a drug and just like any other addiction it can rule your life. Don’t let it.

Only_Potential · 2022-06-16T16:03:00+00:00

Society has made us think that if you're not "pulling" multiple people, you are an Outcast. You can see it in popular music, tv shows and movies, pornhub, etc.

Yeah, it is nice since we all desire it every now and again, but it is not all that it is cracked up to be. You should want more out of life than just to pursue sex. Many people have compromised their own life's purpose for it and I strongly urge all who read this to not do the same.

coachmelloweyes · 2022-06-16T22:34:51+00:00

Meaningful relationships are lit… Sex… fun if they’re equally as freaky… but if you get post nut clarity from her .. then not a great feeling.

ResponsibilityKey427 · 2022-06-16T14:05:04+00:00

Naw sex is pretty lit.

Anyone here who disagrees is coping.

Everything we do as men is to get pussy at the end of the day.

subversivefreak · 2022-06-16T16:17:27+00:00

I tend to find when I'm really not interested in having sex and just wanting some company for a bit. That's when I get laid. It's kind of annoying actually

Connect-Pear-3859 · 2022-06-16T16:47:32+00:00

30 years married and agree 100%. Tried keeping the romance going, but sometimes you just have to say to yourself, fuck it, I'll myself in hand! Less drama.

DAYUMXEZWRK · 2022-06-17T01:55:54+00:00

Yeah pussy has never had any value in my opinion

RProgrammerMan · 2022-06-16T17:11:48+00:00

I think all the things you do to get a relationship are things you should be doing for yourself anyway. Stuff like staying healthy, doing hobbies, building a lifestyle that lets you meet new people. If you are doing those things you’ll be happy whether or not you have a relationship. You have to have the strength to say no to women that play games and try to control you, no matter how hot they are. You are better off without them.

hagakurejunkie · 2022-06-17T23:35:20+00:00

Well, let me put it this way.

I was dating this super sexy ex-stripper the past two months. Sexy, thin, fun as fuck, kinky as hell.

She's also a gigantic pain in the ass too. She doesn't drive so I have to pick her up, she hates her apartment so she stays over 4-5 days a week.

I like her a lot and the sex is great but understand that women are actual humans too and they can get annoying just like hanging out with your best friend.

Don't put pussy on a pedestal, put pussy on the ground like it should be.

Commercial_Habit_923 · 2022-06-16T14:58:13+00:00

Pussy is the goal we are working towards. But don’t put any singular puss on the pedestal I’d say

Ancient-Position-696 · 2022-06-16T15:15:36+00:00

Don't think pedestal, think junk drawer.

Fapandwarmshowers · 2022-06-16T14:40:34+00:00

Pussy should never be on a pedestal.

rcb021514 · 2022-06-16T15:16:34+00:00

Jonathan9O · 2022-06-16T16:00:14+00:00

Honestly at the end of the day pussy is a piece of meat, you want something like that to rule your life?

Cormagnon · 2022-06-16T17:05:12+00:00

Yeah

Ducharbaine · 2022-06-16T19:05:42+00:00

Both. Neither.

It's amazing to get laid, and awesome to be loved and cared about. But it is complex, difficult, and requires sacrifice and dedication.

So depending on your priorities you may prefer singledom, celibacy, and no entanglements, or you may prefer debauchery, hedonism, and all the drama that comes with it, or a balance with one or two partners and carefully curated emotional attachments.

There is no answer that anyone but you can provide.

higordemenezes · 2022-06-16T19:10:06+00:00

I don’t really think that will ever changed, in the past wars were started because of pussy. Thirsty men are willing to throw ANYTHING out of the window for Pussy we all have a few friends that as soon as they started dating all their friendships were over)

Titan_Astraeus · 2022-06-17T00:10:02+00:00

Not putting it on a pedestal doesn't mean it's not great. Relationships, intimacy, sex are all amazing and probably some of the best stuff life has to offer.. the point is that enjoyment is/should be reciprocal and the other person is not necessarily better or different than you such that you have to do everything to please, chase after them as if they were in some elevated position. A beautiful woman is still a person with flaws and feelings, so no reason to treat people different, better than, or fixate because of lacking options..

paddywacknack · 2022-06-17T01:30:55+00:00

People who are in relationships don't know how rough it can be to be single.

youni89 · 2022-06-17T04:04:17+00:00

The grass is greener on the other side.

Once you have regular access, it doesn't seem as big.

PoetOfTheScythe · 2022-06-17T04:12:51+00:00

Sex is a pleasure of the world, and with social media and outside pressures, it is reinforced as a need by the ego that goes along with the thoughts of the mind without care.

It is important to be informed by sexual encounters, but it is not necessary. The desire for sex is biological and culturally reinforced (The stigma behind being a virgin, for instance).

If sexual relationships come naturally to someone, engaging in moderation can be beneficial for development. If not, development can still take place.

Through mentorship, creation of good habits and mindsets, and physical and mental refinement, the more joy one finds in the simple pleasures of life.

It’s not that sex is taken off a pedestal, it’s that you find other things that are interesting and desirable to partake in.

A lot of men can feel pressured to value sex above everything else. It’s a socially constructed obligation of manhood. But it’s a silly thing to focus on when there’s any number of things that could be better for your development as a person.

If it comes, it comes. (Ha) If it doesn’t, it doesn’t.

EDIT: There’s also a massive lack of close friendships for a lot of men. I think this can exacerbate the intensity of desire men have for intimate relations with women. Finding good friends, that want to build you up and help you succeed, and want you to do the same for them, is something that will serve you SOOO much better than focusing on sex above all else. Friends with men, friends with women, friends with people older than you and friends of your age.

focus_flow69 · 2022-06-17T21:49:07+00:00

Separate sex and relationship until you are actually in a relationship, then they can blend together to become something magical.

Until then, treat and view sex as something that's really fun. It's a fun, playful, enjoyable activity and you are trying to see who wants to have fun and who has sexual chemistry with you.

A relationship is something sacred that only those whom you deem worthy of sharing your life and time with. If they are hot and you have great sex, but she doesn't meet your bar to be worthy of sharing your life with, then don't get in a relationship with her. Don't lower your bar just because she's hot. Don't force yourself to spend tkme with her even if you dont enjoy it just because she's hot. But please do fuck her and have sex with her if she's hot. Have fun and get experience with women, just don't fucking simp.

Relationship is the prize for women whether they admit it or not, don't give it up so easily. Likewise, women get told sex is the prize for men and to not give it up so easily.

Yes both sex and a relationship are pretty important in life, but understand that obtaining one or the other, once in a while or even freuquebtly does not necessarily mean you solve life's problems. Strive for them so you have a goal, but it's an ends to a means, which is your personal happiness, satisfaction and quality of life.

Title	Is it true that sex/relationships aren't as great as everyone makes them out to be? Should the pussy be taken off the pedestal?
Author	headcase1111
Upvotes	57
Comments	52
Date	June 16, 2022 1:25 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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