Kissing on first date?

mahuchu · 2015-04-04T19:34:17+00:00

I always go for a kiss on the first date. If she's interested she'll reciprocate and if not then I need to reevaluate what she wants out of our relationship.

There's no perfect moment, like Mark Manson says when you want to just shut up and kiss her

michaelhulkson · 2015-04-04T20:09:50+00:00

This is a great showing of why it's good to be as intimate as possible (within appropriateness of course) right off the bat. Touch her right away on approach, don't hesitate to make more lighthearted physical moves early. For one, it's a turn on. Also, it's comforting. Some of the girls who say they don't do X or Y orZ on a first date are just uncomfortable due to a lack of consistency.

Another thing to consider long beforehand is how real you're being. Both in how you show yourself and how you interact with her. The cliche be yourself advice is actually good in this case. Do not try to be what guys on the internet label as an "alpha" man. Do not try to be something she seems to like or claim is her type. Just be you. She will trust you more, the more you are just you.

Another possibility is that she's just not turned on at all. It's not just a nice vibe that makes people want to kiss, it's a sexual vibe too. You should go for it in a moment where you're somewhat turned on by her and you can just sense off of her that the feeling is mutual. Not just in a moment where things are socially smooth, and things are fun and nice. Sexual tension is needed, it can be subtle, but it's needed.

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So if your with a girl, and she rejects you like that for a kiss, read her react with empathy, and react based on those three things I talked about above.

take a step back (metaphorically) out of respect
do not try any routines or gamey stuff for the rest of the date.
Do not stop touching her entirely, continue to as you please. Both sexual (Ex: thigh and ass feeling), and comforting (ex: kiss on forehead.) touches.
Continue to build sexual tension. Do not let her rejecting a kiss make you play it 100% safe and turn asexual, still let yourself be turned on by her. Still do things to turn her on. Like standing very close and good eye contact and flirting verbally.

Diece · 2015-04-04T20:06:31+00:00

Always go for the kiss but dont escalate too much if you arent in the sex location.

Doctor_Pedobear · 2015-04-04T23:03:37+00:00

Always kiss on the first date. I don't understand everyone's idea that a kiss is such a big deal. Yes it was a big deal in middle school but you're grown fuckin men, a kiss is nothing more than a handshake. You want to kiss her, do it. Don't dilly dally and wonder if you should do it. You'll get what you want and she'll know you're interested in moving forward

Midnight_in_Seattle · 2015-04-04T21:02:14+00:00

Dude you can fuck on the first date. You can fuck without even dating. If you're feeling it, you're in the zone, whatever, just go for it.

The_Bucket_Of_Truth · 2015-04-04T19:48:36+00:00

It seems like you should be going for it more often than not. I sometimes like to wait, but often things work out better when I do it than when I don't.

Iloveyou-Iknow · 2015-04-04T22:23:13+00:00

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A justifier will kiss, and fuck on the first date. There are ways to identify a justifier (tattoos being one) This doesn't mean they are "bad girls" ; they just deal with sex issue differently. As in "it's no big deal" Be sexual but treat them like a male friend. Dont talk about sex or she will think you are needy about it, when it's like lunch to her.
A denier will resist, and it means "not yet.. try again later.." This doesn't mean they are all "good girls" ; they may be fucking 10 guys in an orgy every week. They just will never tell about it, and it's a big deal to them. Go slowly but always advance sexually with them.

DEATH_BY_TRAY · 2015-04-04T20:55:54+00:00

The last girl I kissed showed super clear signs, so I felt completely secure when deciding to kiss her. The signs were: Sparkling eyes, big smile and without hesitation gave me her hands when I asked for them.

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theCHAMPdotcom · 2015-04-04T20:49:00+00:00

I have never had a girl turn down a kiss.

Its more of measuring how the date went...if it sucked obviously don't do it, but if it went well, all for it.

brujon · 2015-04-05T06:11:37+00:00

If i don't get at least a kiss out of the first date, i don't go for a second date. A girl's refusal to kiss me means that she simply isn't interested in me sexually. I'm not interested in a girl that isn't interested in me sexually.

Seriously, a kiss, nowadays, means little to nothing. Going on a date and not getting laid is fine, especially if there are circumstances that would make it difficult for the sex to happen in the first place, but not getting even a kiss means the interaction has to have failed somewhere.

Always know, and always remember, that a girl decides whether you're fuckable or not within minutes of your first face to face interaction, or even just after seeing your pictures if met online. If she agreed to go on a date with you, it means that she has seriously considered getting physical with you, otherwise she simply wouldn't have accepted a date. Exception: there are girls who are simply looking for validation or a free meal ticket.

So what i'm getting at here, is that if you don't get a kiss on the first date, it means that you've either declined in value in her head, as she accepted the date fully expecting it to go well and end in a kiss at least OR she was simply bored, wanted to go out and didn't want to pay.

I have female friends that use tinder for that all the time. They have nothing better to do, give beta chumps some attention, say they want to go out, they offer, they accept, do absolutely nothing for them, and then never respond again.

For real, you don't want girls who want to take you for a ride. Always try to escalate as far as the girl is comfortable with without being rapey, and never go on more than 3/4 dates MAX without fucking. If the girl's over 25, i'd say no more than 2 dates without fucking. If she isn't fucking you by the second date and she's over 25, it means she really doesn't feel sexually attracted to you.

To make it easier for you, try to think that girls get it on with guys at clubs all the time. Guys they've met and kissed in minutes. And who they possibly went out to have sex with after just a few hours and a few drinks. And here you are, took her on a date, and didn't even get a kiss for your time and effort. Doesn't something feel wrong, here?

trauma_gland · 2015-04-04T21:32:24+00:00

Now that I think about it. I'm pretty sure every first date that I've been on where we didn't smooch at least once never ended up with me sleeping with her. Granted, I can recall a couple girls who I did kiss on the first date and still didn't sleep with. That said, kissing a girl on the first date shows you've got balls, know what you want, and how to get what you want. There's no reason not to I mean it's just kissing, come on...

unforunate · 2015-04-04T22:27:46+00:00

Uhhhh. You can't really be serious or maybe you're very young? You should be aiming to close with sex.

What are signs that the girl is interested, but is not a first date kisser?

This just confuses me. If you can't even get a kiss from her on the first date, she's not interested. Why would there even be a 2nd date? If you can't even close a kiss you're wasting your time. Move on.

DaygameCoach · 2015-04-04T22:30:26+00:00

Yes, kiss her.

Spacemage · 2015-04-05T01:24:21+00:00

Kiss on the first date. Is that what you want? Yes; then do it.

bmey3002 · 2015-04-05T01:24:23+00:00

If she isn't at least ok with a quick kiss on the first date, she's not interested in you.

BeyondEarthly · 2015-04-05T01:24:32+00:00

Im slowly coming to realize if it's there, don't ignore it. Although I love the tension that comes along with the next date of whether there's going to be a kiss or not :)

It really depends on the person, really. There have deff been dates where I had no interest and others the first look I wanted to make out over the table.

davevd · 2015-04-05T01:31:36+00:00

I always go for a lay on the first date... so kissing tends to happen fairly early on in the interaction. You cant get her in the mood to sleep with you if you haven't been feeling each other up while hooking up. Before kissing I'm always going for as much Kino as possible, hugs, shaking hands, touching arms, even massaging her hair. Before that, it's all about getting comfortable talking to each other...

bangthemermaid · 2015-04-05T05:46:00+00:00

With a girl that is considering to kiss you in the future, you never blow it because you try to kiss her earlier. If she's not feeling it yet, she'll let you know and you have to go back and spike some more comfort. Smile, take a step back chat some more.

rangamatchstick · 2015-04-05T05:57:12+00:00

Depends on alot of factors, but considering im trying to get laid ASAP I will aim too.

paperfairy · 2015-04-05T06:16:55+00:00

And here I am, trying to fuck on the first date

thekidbass · 2015-04-05T12:54:30+00:00

I have honestly never not kissed on the first date. If I'm interested in a chick, I want to make sure she's interested in me. Life is short, don't waste time.

recyclablebantha · 2015-04-05T13:25:34+00:00

Just would like a general consensus opinion on kissing on first dates.

This is actually not worth much. So you get an opinion from some guys about what girls want. Unless you want to kiss guys, this doesn't help too much and even if you asked girls, you still need to evaluate each girl in a case by case basis.

Some girls seem to like it. Others don't and will say they don't kiss on first date.

Right. And some say they don't like it but actually do. And some girls put up a front like they like it but don't.

What are signs to look for indicating they want a kiss? What are signs that the girl is interested, but is not a first date kisser?

Look, you're going to be better served by NOT looking for a checklist. Just pay attention to the girl. Slowly be escalating and angling towards a kiss when you're alone with her. If she's not in it, she'll indicate that by pulling away.

And even then, she might only not want it, right then. You might be able to try later.

There's no substitute for attentiveness.

Throwaway_d · 2015-04-05T19:18:44+00:00

I had a first date with a girl the other day. She's a bit of a princess but I kissed her half way through. She says 'I don't normally kiss on the first date'!

So there you go. It doesn't matter what the girls say, just do it.

Speedz007 · 2015-04-09T14:47:55+00:00

Always go for the kiss. And if she refuses, she's in all probability not interested and you should move on. In the rare case she's just a shy soul, let her come to you later.

johnnymaddick · 2015-04-05T09:10:33+00:00

Short answer is: it is a must. Otherwise you will just ruin her self-esteem. She will think you are not interested.

Of course you need to create attraction first, but if attraction is there and you are not acting - you are losing points.

Here is my fail-proof technique with several compliance tests on how to kiss a girl on the first date http://datingwithaccent.com/kiss-on-the-first-date/

Johnny Maddick

Title	Kissing on first date?
Author	michaelhulkson
Upvotes	65
Comments	56
Date	April 4, 2015 7:17 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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