Men have emotions. Men are humans

livegamer999 · 2019-02-14T15:22:55+00:00

"Straight men are so incapable of expressing their emotions. This is a clear example of toxic masculinity."

Straight men: This upsets and offends us.

"Hahaha stop being so fragile"

???????

IronJohnMRA · 2019-02-14T13:09:02+00:00

Why? Well because someone has to be the bad guy. If they were allowed to be offended like everyone else they would be allies. If there aren't any predators there can't be victims. Thats why picking a group thats trained not to fight back makes them the easiest targets.

NecroHexr · 2019-02-14T14:03:26+00:00

How tf did you manage to deep fry a screenshot

Sad_Capybara · 2019-02-14T14:10:24+00:00

I've been mad about this exact same thing for so long but I was just too retarded to put it into word effectively.

PandaSixx · 2019-02-14T14:57:47+00:00

"You need to fight against toxic masculinity by talking about your feelings........ok but not like that though."

Intellipus · 2019-02-14T14:30:35+00:00

I couldn't count the number of times I've seen men should "man up" when that Gilette thing happened.

Tough sell. :/

JaxJags904 · 2019-02-14T13:56:59+00:00

I'm not sure why 'straight' was included there. The commercial didn't make exceptions for gay men; they have every right to be just offended by the commercial as straight men, and when they take issue with that commercial specifically, they are likely to recieve the same resistance.

matrix2002 · 2019-02-14T18:42:54+00:00

Many have pointed out the hypocrisy of this, but also it illustrates the often underdeveloped ability of men to know how to understand their complex emotions.

The older I get, the more I realize that the most emotionally stable people I know are that way because they know that life isn't all happiness.

They allow themselves to be angry, sad, happy, frustrated or whatever so that they understand the emotion on where it came from.

Only once when you understand the emotion can you evaluate it.

Men are often not even allowed to HAVE any emotions so they can't even get to the stage where they understand them to evaluate them.

It's definitely like making someone guilty before knowing the facts of the case.

And most men are very good at pushing down their emotions. Really, a lot of society likes it this way.

I hate to be "that guy", but it makes it easier to control you when you don't understand your emotions. Easier to manipulate.

If you get pissed off every time someone mentions your ex-wife, then it's easy to use that information against you.

It's in women's selfish short term interests to keep adult men emotionally stunted.

Long term, it's not good for anyone.

It's insanely frustrating to me to see men villainized before they even do anything wrong.

If you make men work the hardest and get the least emotional support for their contributions to the family, then a few of them go off the deep end and get violent.

I would prefer we focus on preventing violence by being more supportive of men and their emotions BEFORE they feel desperate and lash out.

If we want to talk about unhealthy versions of the ideal man in media, then it's all over the place. Men need to be: fit, rich, smart, successful, funny, dress well, emotionally supportive, a giving lover, tall, handsome, outgoing, happy, and socially comfortable.

Talk about unrealistic expectations.

2019-02-14T15:56:41+00:00

The thing two things I find most offensive about the add are:

1 - It's preachy just to sell shit on TV. I mean seriously Gillette, why'd you go to all this trouble when you can simply go fuck yourself?

2 - Gillette has been selling the same razors to women, but doubling the price for decades. Hello pot, have you met kettle?

GuitarCFD · 2019-02-14T15:04:08+00:00

I wasn't offended by the commercial, I thought it a shit way to get the message across with the generalizations. With that being said, I explained on a friends post why I think people were offended and I got tons of "oh, honey please don't be that guy" replies.

It's a fucking joke how hypocritical those women(and some "men") were being trying to tell me I'm wrong.

goat_nebula · 2019-02-14T15:03:56+00:00

It's at a point where people will try to shut down my arguments for other things simply for subscribing to a sub dedicated to men's rights and perspectives. Not even allowed to be part of a discussion on the topic without being shamed and slandered...

TheGreyGuyHari · 2019-02-14T17:22:36+00:00

And how can we forget the "white men bad, black and colored men good" bullshit!

Fuck feminism! Fuck P&G!

raven982 · 2019-02-14T19:29:50+00:00

That is what happens when your wrap up everything in identify politics. It's "us vs them" nature causes you to become the very thing you claim to hate.

nelsonbt · 2019-02-14T16:06:49+00:00

On one hand, men should be adults and should be busy with productive pursuits instead of complaining about an SJW company. Victim culture is an abomination and even though men are disproportionately blacklisted and otherwise harmed by it, it’s not something we should adopt, because it’s still wrong.

That said, we are getting to a point where the attacks on men and the institutionalized discrimination against them is having a societal effect. Suicide rates for men destroyed by courts, for example. It’s a persistent attack, and it’s normalized, and it’s a moral imperative to defend ourselves. I can’t think of a better way than adopting the left’s own tactics. I mean that sadly: I can’t think of a better way.

Some men are bad. Some women are bad. “All men” didn’t start this war, but all men are being attacked with these policies. It’s a war we didn’t start. It was started by uncritical bigots. We have to reframe and resist. And as soon as possible, and as much as possible, take the high road and model values of moderation, maturity, success, merit, equality of opportunity, and fairness, and insist that others model these behaviours and values as well.

timeslider · 2019-02-14T14:30:39+00:00

I’m out of the loop. What Gillette ad?

Profligate-Prophet · 2019-02-14T15:16:36+00:00

Reeee....patriarchy.... reee unfair wage gap... reeee I’ve been raped by men stating their feelings... reeee

Passthecranberries · 2019-02-14T15:43:28+00:00

Just saw the ad for the first time...wow. I love reading the comment section, amidst comment deletion and censorship, people (not just men) are rising up to show this company that they done fucked up.

I’ve never boycotted a company irl, congratulations Gillette!

Moon_Glade · 2019-02-14T17:30:47+00:00

Hello fellow reddit Is fun user

YeOldeVertiformCity · 2019-02-14T18:18:21+00:00

I think that I am logically consistent in my reaction to the Gillette ad.

1) I personally didn’t like it. That is something that I use when I make my own decisions about how I spend my money. So if I see an ad for something that doesn’t appeal to me then I don’t buy it.

This doesn’t mean that I get upset and try to deny others from spending money on it.

2) If something that I used to like changes into something that I don’t like then I will explain why I don’t like it any more in the hope it will change back.

this is different than “outrage” where people demand that things change because it’s offensive

2) There are people who get outraged. And those people are hypocrites for their selective use of outrage. For example, there are people who claim to be for “equality” but they only direct their outrage for or against certain groups.

I personally do not like outrage culture, so I would rather there wasn’t any outrage at all. But if people are outrage warriors, then I want them to apply their outrage equally or admit that they don’t believe in equality at all.

Tyko_3 · 2019-02-14T18:34:34+00:00

I think what they fail to see is the fact that the words they are using omit the fact that it is not ALL men. You cannot go around saying "men do this" and then assume everyone will know you don't literally mean "ALL men". The danger of this is that with time, it will internalize. Generalizing is a dangerous thing and words have power. So when a man says they are offended by the Gillet add is because of the language used. it normalizes men being assholes in the eyes of women. This isn't just a woman who got cheated on by her boyfriend telling her friends "men are assholes" these are institutions with money and power in the media that are continuing to say men are a certain way. It is irresponsible. Just as irresponsible as saying it about women, or black men or hispanics or whatever else yo can think of.

In fact. If Gillette really cared for change and wanted to make this a positive ad campaign, the message would have been focused on the men who DO good. Make them feel recognized for not being the jerks. Say things like "In these trying times you have remained a father, a son, a husband" show them respecting their wives, teaching their boys discipline. Make them feel like GOOD MEN. Instead they went with "Y'all can do better y'know! Look at this jerk here. Look at this other asshole"

DeepFriedDoubleEE · 2019-02-14T18:55:44+00:00

Because it's comedy that "punches up" at the privileged and empowered patriarchy. So that means that it's fair and acceptable to make straight men the butt of your jokes. In fact, it's beyond fair because in making fun of straight men (bonus points if they're white) you're actually encouraging others to attack and destroy the oppression, misogyny, and hate perpetrated by all men. #StayWoke #MeToo #KillAllMen #TheFutureIsFemale

Edit: I wrote as if I was responding directly to the final question in the picture, not the post title or any other comments.

J2501 · 2019-02-14T19:01:18+00:00

'PRISM should only bother you if you have something to hide.'

'Prejudice against Muslims should only bother you if you are a terrorist.'

I wonder how many liberal feminists would agree with statements like that?

dredawg1 · 2019-02-14T21:34:35+00:00

So many fucking cunts in this world.

neightdog · 2019-02-14T17:12:05+00:00

Its because men are all 400 years old and have been oppressive the entire time

OilyB · 2019-02-14T17:46:49+00:00

Why? Because women (and lots of men) still consider men to be the strongest sex. They claim equality with their brain but 8n their instinct they expect men to be more resilient and women more delicate.

Hence - woman complaining: respect and believe Man complaining: derision, "man up!" Weak men anger women.

Now back to the Gilette ad: fuck everybody, resist the ad and resist the ideas related to it. Nobody will guard is, nobody will protect us. We must be our own Pretorian Guard.

Emberwatch · 2019-02-14T18:49:57+00:00

Im not offended by Gillette.

Am I threatened? Yes. I know why they pushed that ad. I know precisely what it means. Enslavement and control.

But am I offended? No. Instead I am grateful.

Its like a sniper in the bushes, standing up.

Now I can see who my enemy is.

Thank you Gillette for revealing yourself.

Kid_Dragneel · 2019-02-14T21:03:35+00:00

“Down with toxic masculinity, men are allowed to have feelings!” Me: “I feel offended and targeted by the ad” (those same women) “lol man up it’s just an ad, poor baby upset by a commercial! LOL”

2019-02-14T15:49:08+00:00

Its good to see posts like this where open minded people see through the bs the indoctrinated feminists spew. I think society in general is finally waking up to the evil of this group.

omegaphallic · 2019-02-14T15:56:07+00:00

Those that mock those offended by the as only keep the whole thing going ironically.

SIothhhhhhhhhhhh · 2019-02-14T15:44:00+00:00

what was the Gillette ad?

BudnamedSpud · 2019-02-14T18:23:07+00:00

Bring back the 1960 folger adds.... Thats what I say

icexprincess · 2019-02-14T18:46:33+00:00

lmao you know what's REALLY funny?

in Russia, reebok released an "empowering" ad to women that was like, "stop craving male approval … ride their faces instead!"

meanwhile, men get condescended to.

cmon y'all, you can do better, stop treating us like sexual objects and respect us … by letting us treat you like sexual objects!

JuicyPro · 2019-02-15T02:24:46+00:00

Honestly unpopularopinion is becoming my favorite subreddit.

Anonfamous · 2019-02-15T04:45:53+00:00

I dunno but there was a Gillette commercial years ago that bothered me more than this.

It was like several short clips of the things a man's face will endure over a lifetime. Kisses, rain, sun, wind, and the last one was like "three well deserved slaps," and then it shows this guy taking said slaps like at the ends of dates and one by his wife..... Wait wtf?!

Like imagine if I was selling fucking eyeliner and I was like it'll mask three deserved black eyes and then showed three quick clips of some chick getting fuckin decked.

OfDogsandRoses · 2019-02-15T05:56:03+00:00

I've never agreed with anything more.

2019-02-15T07:31:29+00:00

Men are not stones!!

DJ-Roukan · 2019-02-15T12:53:03+00:00

No Charlie Brown, I won't pull the football out this time, honest.

2019-02-15T13:01:05+00:00

Yea I've had to take 200mg of Seroquel for the last 6 years because apparently me having emotions is wrong. I've only cried 3 times in that period, that is it, can't remember the last time I laughed out loud.

JackFisherBooks · 2019-02-15T14:41:46+00:00

We're all human, last I checked. Human beings are emotional creatures. We feel sadness, sorrow, loss, despair, anger, outrage, and a whole host of other things that we can't put into words. There's a healthy way to deal with emotions and there's an unhealthy way. And when an entire group of people are deemed "toxic" by default, there's no healthy way to deal with it. And people are still surprised when it causes resentment and frustration?

OnTheSlope · 2019-02-15T23:06:44+00:00

When one black guy on tv smokes crack that tv show is saying all blacks smoke crack, but say men need to do better and it's only talking about a small percentage.

RyanStrainMusic · 2019-02-14T19:40:57+00:00

But everyone gets made fun of by someone for their beliefs. This post insinuates that the men who are offended by this ad are being made fun of more than anyone else, but everyone's getting made fun of. Men, women, feminists, vegans, republicans, democrats, blacks, whites, catapult enthusiasts, etc. In this case, it's not out of place. It's expected, just like in every other facet of society. Just ignore it all.

Whisper · 2019-02-14T21:31:44+00:00

OP, you are well-intentioned, but you have the wrong tack, here.

Everyone knows men have emotions. It's that no one who doesn't know that man personally gives a shit.

This is not some sort of special "sexism" in our culture, either. It's the simple fact that human beings (of both sexes) are biologically hardwired to think differently about men and women.

Attempting to persuade humans out of their instincts isn't going to work. Find an alternative strategy.

wrenagade419 · 2019-02-14T16:37:55+00:00

then their hypocrites for thinking people shouldn't be upset at other people who get offended when the suggestion is made that we can be better.

like someone says do the right thing, and you get offended.... you're just a bad fucking person

Bootleather · 2019-02-14T18:46:51+00:00

This is stupid. Why am I supposed to feel bad about toxic men being portrayed as toxic?

This is not mens rights it's butthurt incels.

Be proud that you are NOT one of those men who feel 'threatened' by an advertisement saying that there are bad men out there.

Greg_W_Allan · 2019-02-14T19:14:20+00:00

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tomba444 · 2019-02-14T17:22:51+00:00

The ad was fine. The point is that we should encourage men to not be sexually aggressive, violent, or judgmental, not that all men are characterized by these traits. This is a good message to promote and by no means targets all men generally. If y'all want men's rights to be taken seriously, you would appreciate that condemning objectively negative behavior is a good thing.

rosin-the-beau · 2019-02-14T16:49:37+00:00

Nobody ever mentions Islam.

Smackdaddy122 · 2019-02-14T16:21:17+00:00

This sub is a cunt hair away from redpill lol

Kendricktheory · 2019-02-14T16:04:16+00:00

There are dudes in the video that are nice and dudes in the video that are assholes. I don't get how this would offend someone that isn't an asshole.

Like I see dudes that are assholes all the time, I know the commercial is talking about them because it's obvious from the context.

The ad was ridiculousand dumb but then again so is this post

Iagi · 2019-02-14T16:35:28+00:00

If this sub walked away thinking that the Gillette commercial was an attack on masculinity you’ve all missed the point. It was clearly a celebration of true masculinity. Instead of abusive and poor behaviours disguised as masculinity.

On top of that is not like every third post on this sub laughing at how someone else got offended? Let’s hold ourselves to not hypocrisy at the very least.

numb3red · 2019-02-14T17:08:35+00:00

Okay, I used to be a big MRA and even trying to go back and look at the ad through that old mindset I can't figure out why people have a problem with it. It's literally saying "These actions are what toxic masculinity actually is, if you don't do these and call out people who do you're a real man and that's awesome." Women are calling out men who dislike this ad because it's impossible to figure out how good men can see it as attacking to them.

ShepardCommandActual · 2019-02-15T00:54:22+00:00

Same triggered cucks voted trump to stick it to the librulz. Give me a break, enough solidarity with evil men

Revolver_SucksAlot · 2019-02-14T15:14:05+00:00

Why’d you color out his name with fag colors wtf

Title	Men have emotions. Men are humans
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Date	February 14, 2019 12:02 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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