Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard

nathan1942 · 2014-03-21T02:17:43+00:00

"RAINN urges the White House to “remain focused on the true cause of the problem” and suggests a three-pronged approach for combating rape: empowering community members through bystander intervention education, using “risk-reduction messaging” to encourage students to increase their personal safety, and promoting clearer education on “where the ‘consent line’ is.” It also asserts that we should treat rape like the serious crime it is by giving power to trained law enforcement rather than internal campus judicial boards."

Tell people to act if they are witnessing sexual violence, encourage individuals to be responsible for their own safety, and help clarify what is and is not consent.

I think this is the perfect approach. Finally they stop blaming men and start blaming the rapists instead.

unbannable9412 · 2014-03-20T23:57:38+00:00

it’s almost invisible

A convenient description of "rape culture" for feminists.

HolySchmoly · 2014-03-20T22:16:04+00:00

Rape is caused by rapists, not by men. Teaching men not to rape is making men feel ashamed of themselves for being men.

Male shame is female power. It has nothing to do with preventing rape. It has everything to do with empowering women.

alphabetmod · 2014-03-21T02:52:38+00:00

I'm calling it now... RAINN will be forced to issue some kind of apology/backtracking bullshit statement in a matter of days or weeks because of all the pressure feminists will be putting on them because they dared to tell the truth. The truth that "rape culture" is feminist hysteria that never has and never will exist outside of the worst prisons.

I don't want it to happen... but when have the legions of whiny feminists not gotten their way on the issue of controlling public discourse?

alphabetmod · 2014-03-21T03:00:09+00:00

The most appalling part about feminists getting upset about RAINN's statement is the fact that they're upset that a leading organization in the fight against rape and sexual violence (RAINN) is trying to steer the conversation in a direction that will actually help the victims of sexual violence. They'd rather have RAINN continue to misrepresent the facts, and pander to bullshit feminist ideals that have no basis in reality. The ones that don't actually help the victims of sexual assault, than admit that "rape culture" is bullshit.

TRPACC · 2014-03-20T20:41:10+00:00

Mine

JamesFullman 4 minutes ago @valenciapilgrim32 Its rape hysteria - like progressive era rape hysteria, witch-hunt hysteria, satanic cult hysteria and so onEdit (in 1 minute)

Trunk-Monkey · 2014-03-21T02:44:12+00:00

Kudos to RAINN for their recent recomendations and kudos to Time for publishing oposition to the critisizm RAINN is recieving about it... and not just because I don't want my boys grow up in a culture where they are guilty by accusation, but because equality and stoping violence are prefferable to villifying half of the population!

HannasAnarion · 2014-03-21T02:16:06+00:00

This deserves to be on the front page forever.

rightsbot · 2014-03-20T20:12:18+00:00

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AusNation · 2014-03-21T05:17:56+00:00

How the hell is it possible that feminists haven't already infiltrated all sexual violence organisations?

I would have thought that there'd be no place more hostile to voice these opinions. Kudos to the author

whinemoreplease · 2014-03-21T06:15:53+00:00

Fantastic summary from a reputable source citing a highly influential organization. I instantly posted this on my facebook (to whatever little good that does). I wish I could upvote it more.

dungone · 2014-03-21T00:21:24+00:00

I will wait until they acknowledge that women commit a huge portion of rape. That's really the end of this entire conversation.

adorkable93 · 2014-03-21T08:45:05+00:00

Call me crazy, but I don't think boys and men need to be taught not to rape. We don't have to teach kids not to murder people, do we? RAINN said it perfectly with, "promoting clearer education on "where the 'consent line' is."" This is just my opinion, but the problem isn't with boys thinking rape is okay. The problem is that many boys and girls don't really know, or haven't been taught, what qualifies as rape. A lot (not a majority) of boys and girls think that there's no such thing as raping your girlfriend, or someone you've had sex with before. And people still argue over whether or not consenting when you're drunk is really consent. All I'm saying is that there are a lot of situations that a person without proper education would consider a "gray area" or even acceptable when it isn't. The sooner we all realize that this perceived "rape culture" is really a lack of proper education, for both boys and girls, the better.

Kuato2012 · 2014-03-21T13:59:00+00:00

Back when I used to try having meaningful conversation and debate with feminists, I got variously called a rape apologist or a rapist in waiting for saying the exact same things RAINN just did. I'll not hold my breath waiting for any apologies.

2014-03-21T06:36:30+00:00

Somebody should tell Jessica that even she acknowledges that rape culture isn't part of American culture; if rape is as American as Apple pie than it's not very American, because Apple pie has its roots in the 1300's.

History isn't a strong point of Jessica's.

PrimesteFericera · 2014-03-21T12:39:28+00:00

One of the comments on the article mentioned the satanic cult hysteria and witch hunt hysterias of the past. I thought that was interesting. Right now everyone's all worked up but 20 years down the road we'll realize we were fighting an invisible monster.

I'm so glad to see a mainstream news source talking about this.

Raudskeggr · 2014-03-21T07:40:54+00:00

Prepare for the backlash of rustled jimmies.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2014-03-21T10:35:25+00:00

A great article.

Whilst our culture has SOME memes/expectations/beliefs which CAN (even if unintentionally) make life easier for rapists, blaming men/masculinity for this is inane.

The primary cause of rape is a small handfull of sociopaths. Target them and imprison them and hold them accountable.

Consent education is good but only addresses a small part of rape.

leftofcentaur · 2014-03-21T12:44:25+00:00

My one criticism is that this article still makes the assumption that all rapists are male.

Title	Critically important TIME article -- but the backlash is starting. Let your voice be heard
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