This is why we can't get people to understand what we are about. Journalist calls "Men’s-Rights Activism Is a Gateway Drug for the Alt-Right"

UnHope20 · 2021-06-10T01:27:01+00:00

I don't use the title of MRA but this is truly disheartening. Why would someone completely misrepresent our beliefs, goals or practices?

I'll be honest, this sort of stuff makes me want to give up on people and just let it all crash and burn.

These people would rather resort to intellectual dishonesty and bullshit journalism than to actually engage with us.

The worst part is that so called "progressives" like this writer are the real reason that hate groups swell in numbers. They actively work to undermine our work and in so doing leave no spaces for disaffected young males to go accept into the arms of hate groups.

Then use the fact that these guys end up in hate groups to promote their same scare tactics and false narratives about males.

It's insane! We are basically fighting against laws, pop culture, the higher education apparatus, and now information warfare too???

This is ridiculous.

thanks_man12 · 2021-06-10T01:51:10+00:00

Of course it’s written by David Futrelle. He’s notorious for slandering MRAs

PsychoPhilosopher · 2021-06-10T01:57:02+00:00

Men's rights interested individuals, finding themselves reviled and alienated by mainstream feminists, turn to people who will at least pretend to listen to their concerns.

More news at 7.

DanteLivra · 2021-06-10T02:28:01+00:00

The whole concept of "gateway drug" is so dumb.

If you really think about it, the first gateway drug is sugar, then coffee, THEN people try out alcohol, sometimes they try weed first and most people don't go further than that.

Same with alt-right. We could say that going to church is the gateway to alt-right since this is probably the first thing remotly close to it that people will experience, but even then, it doesn't take a full brain to understand that most people who goes to church are not gonna end up alt-right.

pacsatonifil · 2021-06-10T03:16:43+00:00

LMFAO! What an asshole. Im glad there is a left wing subreddit for us to show we exist

redgarnetamaranth · 2021-06-10T01:54:01+00:00

Well.. calling it a “gateway drug” immediately susses it out as bullshit, sounds like some right wing politician talking about marijuana.

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-06-10T06:36:54+00:00

These are the same people who will go, "Oh, believing in patriarchy doesn't mean you hate men. All those mainstream misandric feminists? They aren't real feminists."

Pastycriminal · 2021-06-10T05:27:32+00:00

Oh look at those scummy men that where MRA before they transitioned to the alt-right, see how bad MRA are! Yeah ignoring the many men and woman that actually just want to help men

friendofalltehworld · 2021-06-10T08:26:07+00:00

I find it amusing that they always use alt-right these days. Never just 'rightwing'. Sometimes extreme right. I'm not a communist, but a nanny state suits me just fine. I don't mind paying very high taxes to get a very high average standard of living. It's better for everyone that way. But I think men are getting a raw deal these days in a variety of areas. Suddenly I'm a free market capitalist? What gives?

matrixislife · 2021-06-10T13:17:36+00:00

Yeah, could people get used to using https://archive.is/ to snapshot pages linked here, especially when they are written by pieces of crap like Futrelle. It also prevents confusion if the page is altered at a later time.

The simple truth is that journalists are not our friends. There's an ideology war going on and journalists as a group are [almost] all on the other side. It shows you the flip side of journalism, the ability to smear, to harrass and dox, to mis-represent people and to lie to the public. They are the scummiest of people.

UnHope20 · 2021-06-10T11:13:29+00:00

Its the same with the right in general... its not trump who made alt right big and en vogue. Its us who quit to adress workers issues, social policies and other oldschool left stuff. We replaced it with identity politics and other lifestyle issues, debate them very emotional and not objective. The working class people dont feel represented by anyone and flock in anger to the right. Its happening here in germany, too. Everywhere. Our leftest party just does endless debates with city academics over green and lifestyle-left issues. Workers all flock to the right.

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-06-10T11:59:26+00:00

One more term I hate that's extremely overused these days is 'reactionary'. People who use it basically go, "Accept all my ideas without question, no matter how horrible, or I'll call you a bad word!"

Hey_itsmeguys · 2021-06-10T12:24:08+00:00

Reminds me of the "rational" wiki article on the MRM.

MeasurementRealistic · 2021-06-10T12:49:38+00:00

Obviously if you cede everything on a particular topic your opponents are going to move in. This is why you actually deal with the topic at hand instead of dismissing it immediately.

Deanzopolis · 2021-06-10T13:21:32+00:00

If men's rights activism is leading men to the alt right, you should stop and consider what you're doing to make them so reactionary.

LastRounder · 2021-06-11T14:07:39+00:00

Right is not always universally bad, by the way. Mostly it is used as a buzzword now.

hendrixski · 2021-06-12T11:50:42+00:00

Said differently: "men's rights issues, once a part of the left's coalition, have been abandoned by the left and those voters are being wooed by right wing loonies."

bathtub_parrot · 2021-06-10T04:36:41+00:00

I came here because I am a woman truly interested in men being treated with dignity and respect and care as individuals, and a group. I believe our society is doing men a disservice in many ways, in its attempt to over-correct the lack of equality women faced for so long.

That’s why I came to this sub, and why I will stay, but I’m not gonna lie... I feel like some people here definitely have the incel vibe, and like they missed the “left wing” in the r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates

2021-06-10T09:37:06+00:00

If one side is against you, the other merely have to be indifferent to gain allegiance. I personally left the Left behind for other reasons (I was a staunch New Atheist and saw the Charlie Hebdo Attack as the Death Nail of the movement), but the increasing male bashing and anti-white nonsense would have gotten me disillusioned all the same, just on a slower timeframe.

2021-06-10T10:46:01+00:00

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Title	This is why we can't get people to understand what we are about. Journalist calls "Men’s-Rights Activism Is a Gateway Drug for the Alt-Right"
Author	UnHope20
Upvotes	179
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Date	June 10, 2021 1:21 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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