Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go through

NimishApte · 2022-04-24T13:48:26+00:00

It's a sad thing, really. A lot of the transphobia against transwomen comes mainly due to misandry, yet they are forced to perpetrate misandry to be included in the trans community. Btw, I believe it's misandrist, misandristic.

BrickDaddyShark · 2022-04-24T13:55:51+00:00

I respect the shit out of them for being able to realize it at the very least. So many people that get caught in the woke ideology just blindly follow it, even when it’s contradictory. They realize that’s wrong

Ornery-Surround3491 · 2022-04-24T13:01:29+00:00

https://medium.com/@jencoates/i-am-a-transwoman-i-am-in-the-closet-i-am-not-coming-out-4c2dd1907e42

Deadlocked02 · 2022-04-24T16:54:03+00:00

because in the queer community the only people who defend cisboys are cisboys

Nah, that’s not true. Misandry as a form of getting “queer credit” is just as common among cis guys in the community. And it isn’t enough for the misandrist straight, bisexual and lesbian women who have a crusade against men. It will never be. No matter how much gay/bi guys worship and idolize women, how much they say that God is a black and lesbian woman, the people they’re trying to please will just keep writing articles about the misogyny in the gay community, as if they have any high ground to point fingers.

Starfall11006 · 2022-04-24T17:06:30+00:00

I legit can’t imagine what mental obstacles trans women have to go through. First being in a body they don’t feel like is theirs to then have to “prove” their woman enough when transitioning by using bigotry language that is similar to how people insult trans people in general.

This shit is fucked

DekajaSukunda · 2022-04-24T22:38:04+00:00

I used to feel bad about the shits they have to go through

Trans women, just like trans men and everyone else, are not a monolith. Unfortunately censoriousness in the LGBT+ community is really rampant, a lot of queer people are militant as fuck and they ostracize queer people who disagree with them spiritually or politically just as terribly as small town conservatives would ostracize them for being queer.

I hate this shit. I really, really do. I've started to hang out less in queer spaces for this very reason. It sucks. But I know where it's coming from. Sometimes when you're queer you just really need that kind of space where you can fit in.

I am told that I don’t understand what it’s like to grow up feeling ashamed of my interests because they are feminine. I want to scream.

Oh my fucking God. This tracks. The exact same thing has happened to me in discussions with feminists.

I could write a hundred pieces about the ways men and masculinity have damaged me and the women I love, but you could throw a single stone into the internet and hit three of those.

Thank you!!!

Thanks for sharing this article, OP. The author is incredibly articulate and does an amazing job of explaining how isolating living as queer can be because of feminist dogma. This isn't talked about enough and whenever someone dares bring it up, we are part of the problem.

Abigale_Munroe · 2022-04-24T15:17:00+00:00

Imagine how trans-men are treated in that same community.

Ryunysus · 2022-04-24T19:22:46+00:00

I'm gay and I have honestly given up on the LGBTQIAXYZ123 community, there is so much toxicity in it. Lesbians, trans and all the woke queers are extremely misandric. The woker the gay man, the more he hates himself and his masculinity, this also equally applies to those dipshit anti-trans radical feminist gay men. What is funny is lesbians have the highest domestic violence rates among the LGBT+ yet men bad. Contrary to popular opinion, the "evil" straight man is a better friend to a gay man than the so-called queers, I have only received hate from online LGBT groups.

Man_of_culture_112 · 2022-04-24T14:28:01+00:00

The Queer community can be pretty insidious and insincere, the impact of feminism is not small. The proliferation of feminism in the western left weakens it (unlike black/racial struggles that unify and strengthen it), it is pretty similar to how right wing ideas and people weakened (or practically destroyed) the men's rights movement.

MelissaMiranti · 2022-04-24T16:34:34+00:00

I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go through

Please remember that a lot of trans women don't use misandry to get in the door, instead empathizing more with men due to remembering what it was like when they presented as men. Don't let the actions of a few harden your heart against everyone else.

Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n · 2022-04-24T14:37:08+00:00

Homophobia and cis-phobia is rife in the trans community. Its grotesque.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Sgz9aR2BxPH4JgqA7

RhinoNomad · 2022-04-25T01:13:34+00:00

Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go through

Why 'used to'? It's clear that this person doesn't want to be misandrist but sees going against it as being conflicting with their desire to be perceived as a woman.

I still feel sorry for her.

Don't hate the player, hate the game they have to play.

Sorry-Difference5942 · 2022-04-25T18:01:50+00:00

This piece brings me very close to tears every time I read it.

I'm not trans. As far as I'm aware. But I thought I might have been, once upon a time. A frightening amount of this article hits on a very personal level.

It just highlights so many frustrations I feel trying to connect with queer communities, which inevitably tend to be laced with performative misandry.

I feel like no one cares to understand me. Everyone is quick to write off any internal or external struggles I've faced because I'm not oppressed enough. I know full well how it feels to be excluded from society because of who you are and yet... I'm supposed to eat all of the hate up and live with it because others have it worse, I guess.

I genuinely struggle with this weiteup because it speaks so much truth it hurts. It captures so much struggle that is unspoken and hidden. About how hard it is to appear to be a man despite wondering if you are one yourself. I often want to scream at those types of feminists that I've felt like I can't even talk about who I am deep inside with them because I know they'll dismiss me outright, try to say that my feelings are based on lies or misunderstandings, and that there's actually no reason anyone would want to be a woman, especially someone who looks so much like a cis man.

So it's just another side of me I end up killing off. Can't talk about it with tradcons, can't talk about it with feminists... when the language of inclusive groups gets bad enough to cause folks to hesitate about opening up regarding their identity struggles it really makes you wonder how inclusive they really are

basedsaimii · 2022-05-08T23:48:02+00:00

Holy shit this is so true

Its was so weird at the start of my transitiong, when I still didn't pass and had horrible clothing choices etc, I was a very clockable tr*nny. queer people's, especially AFABs has a switch that fucking flips instantly if you tell them you're trans, and try to include you in their men hating misandrist stuff. I then, and even now when I pass still deal with a lot of issues I faced as a boy growing up, but to them they only want to ask what kind of "new sexism against women" i've started to face. Which I had, but again, completely overlooking anything I went through when I grew up as a boy

Juhnthedevil · 2022-04-24T16:20:24+00:00

https://medium.com/@philippawillitts/stop-blaming-mental-illness-and-start-blaming-men-7c2bc61bed54 This website seems quite misandrists...

faith_crusader · 2022-04-24T18:26:54+00:00

Why are TERFS against them if they ready to get along with misandry ?

Juhnthedevil · 2022-04-24T15:48:35+00:00

Wait. What are cisboys doing in Queer community? I'm confused. Aren't they supposed to be originally men whose gender was defined on their birth sex?

GoelandAnonyme · 2022-04-24T16:27:59+00:00

What does "doing the misandry stuff" ?

PossumPalZoidberg · 2022-04-25T02:36:48+00:00

source?

doesnt link article

Motanul_Negru · 2022-04-25T19:43:09+00:00

Cis, trans, straight, gay, etc.

A coward is a coward is a coward.

Source: I'm one too.

1throwaw4y432 · 2022-04-28T08:01:50+00:00

this says a lot about "queer" communities

Title	Trans women use misandristic language to be accepted in the queer communities and to be seen as women by cis women. I used to feel sad about the shits they have to go through
Author	Ornery-Surround3491
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Comments	124
Date	April 24, 2022 1:00 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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