Question for women. In my given example of a man with a list of traits, do you find the traits attractive, and if not why and what opposing traits would you prefer?

anon018274031 · 2022-10-30T16:37:33+00:00

Liking someone doesn’t really work like that… you could have those features and be ugly or stunning. You can’t tell from a list

inkiwitch · 2022-10-30T17:55:42+00:00

Did you get this Chad list straight from an incel forum?

Attraction is not a formula where you can just plug in “strong jaw + hunter eyes” and automatically get sex and attention from the opposite gender.

Men here are SOOOO much more obsessed with other guys having muscled bodies than most women ever think about it, I promise you.

2022-10-30T16:58:36+00:00

I don't care much for assertiveness.

jabmwr · 2022-10-30T16:50:07+00:00

Your traits are describing a conventionally attractive man. Attractive traits can vary wildly by person to person. Also, some of those things are so specific; I’ve never known someone to consider brow structure. I was wondering if you were going to list more intangible traits; we want more than just looks. What are your values? Do our life goals mesh well or are similar?

My partner is very conventionally attractive, but he’s also kind, thoughtful, intelligent, driven, emotionally intelligent, empathetic, great sex, shared hobbies, similar schedules so we can carve out time to spend quality time together. We are a reasonable driving distance from my home base. It’s the whole package that matters.

Looks are just the initial reason to engage with someone. I went on a date with a 8, but when he was a dick to the bartender, he was a 0 the moment it happened.

Cjaylyle · 2022-10-30T16:23:12+00:00

Sounds like someone most would say is attractive. I can’t say yes or no because nothing showing his intellectual capacity is listed (his IQ, education, ability to discuss real meaningful topics, etc.) I would need to know this before I could determine if I found the guy appealing.

growandappear · 2022-10-30T16:31:12+00:00

6 foot 2 in height.

Neutral trending positive.

Thick full head of hair.

Yes, and curly even better

Strong jaw.

Depends, it's easy to have a jaw look overdone.

Narrow deep set intense eyes with nice straight eyebrows sat below a strong brow

Wider set eyes more attractive. Hard to gauge what an "intense" eye is outside of makeup. lol at the eyebrows (what is meant by straight? They are usually at least somewhat arched) but yeah, whatever. Strong brow, see strong jaw

Nice white teeth

This doesn't describe much, but if you mean straight, I prefer a smile with character. This one is kind of embarrassing but I very recently felt my attraction towards a guy deepen once I saw his bottom teeth all crowded and shit

Wide shoulders

I have never noticed the set of a man's shoulders, except for narrowness, literally once. Normal shoulders great, wide shoulders great. Neither something I'm particularly drawn to.

V taper torso

Sure, or straight/rectangular

Low body fat

Prefer regular body fat

Defined arms

See jaw and brow, but yes, attractive

Deep voice

Smooth is more important, manner of speaking more important. Deep is nice, I guess, but not important.

Confident

Yes, but in the baseline way where absence is unattractive, rather than presence being attractive in itself.

Funny

Yes. But I don't think I'm someone that becomes attracted to a person for being funny. It just makes my existing attraction deeper.

Not easily intimidated

See confidence

Assertive

See above. I think I'd prefer a softie, as long as he doesn't fawn.

TxAggieMike01 · 2022-10-30T20:01:03+00:00

You guys are so weird lol… just focus on self improvement everyday and be a good person. Get off Reddit, touch grass, talk to real life women. It’s not that hard.

Brilliant_Look4387 · 2022-10-30T23:58:08+00:00

Attractive: height, broad shoulders and deep voice.

I would date someone without these features, but it is what I am attracted to.

Neutral: everything else.

When it comes toI seem to facial beauty, I seem be attached to a particular look. I think that a small nose and high check-bones look really fine. My friends however, are never in agreement with me about who looks hot, and are very neutral towards guys I am attached to. It just goes to show that attraction is mysterious and can't be determined by a list like this. Almost no one is universally attractive and you may never know what features of yours will be attractive to someone.

Siukslinis_acc · 2022-10-30T17:03:23+00:00

6 foot 2 in height.

I prefer the height difference being no more than the shorter persons eye level being on the chin of the taller ones. I'm 160 cm. and dunno how much cm that difference would be. Looked up 6'2 and it roughly transpates to 200 cm. A 40 cm. diffrence seems too much.

Low body fat

How low are we talking? I prefer a bit of a padding/softness. Don't want to feel like te other person is made out of bricks.

Narrow deep set intense eyes with nice straight eyebrows sat below a strong brow

Could you link a pic with an example, because the description does not create any images in my head. I do prefer darker eyes that maybe sit a bit deeper so that it seems darker around the eyes and thick, bushy eyebrows.

Nice white teeth

I prefer natural teeth with their natural colour. The white, super straight teeth that hollywood actors tend to have feel a bit fake and are boring.

V taper torso

Googled it to find what the heck it is? Found pictures of super ripped men whose underwear seems to sit on the top of their penises? So is a V taper wide shoulders, slim waist or supper ripped with underwear sitting on penis? All in all I prefer more the straight shilouette that is formed by a normal hanging shirt and pant up to the bellybutton, the pants sitting on top of penis tells my mind that the pants will fall down.

Strong jaw

Needs also a bit of a padding. Not a fan when it stands out like a cliff.

_revelationary · 2022-10-30T20:41:46+00:00

6 foot 2 in height

My husband is 5’11” and I am 5’9” and I was hugging him earlier…realized his height is so perfect for me. Just something about the way my head fits on his shoulder when we hug. I think anything above 6’ is neutral, particularly if I had not experienced the 5’11” sweet spot for me. Now those taller heights might be negatives.

Strong jaw

Meh? Seems more like an indicator of youth and/or body fat but that alone isn’t doing anything for me. Idk, again neutral.

V taper torso

Does nothing for me. I do like wide shoulders but the rest of the torso can look like whatever.

The rest lean slightly positive in attractiveness. The most attractive to me would be wide shoulders, white teeth (more like just clean, straight), confident, funny, maybe deep voice. The rest are like neutral to slightly positive depending on the rest of the man.

GoldLeaderLiam · 2022-10-30T21:54:55+00:00

Can we stop with these stupid hypotheticals lol

2022-10-30T16:41:49+00:00

I don’t like a wide jaw, narrow set eyes, or strong brow.

Assertive is good assuming he is also capable of being chill and going with the flow. If he has to be in control all the time that’s not attractive to me.

The rest of the stuff is either neutral or positive.

2022-10-30T16:44:33+00:00

Height is neither here nor there for me. I’m short and tend to date short men.

Full head of hair is attractive.

In terms of my personal preferences, strong jaws are a major turnoff. I don’t find square jaws attractive on men. I always like guys with slightly softer features, baby faces.

I like guys with really big, open eyes. What you’ve described is not attractive to me.

White teeth is very attractive. Straightness isn’t important, I have a long-standing thing for guys with slightly fucked up teeth. Like if his bottom teeth are janky is so hot to me.

Wide shoulders is neutral for me.

V-taper torso is attractive.

Low body fat is extremely attractive.

Defined arms is attractive.

Deep voice is neither here nor there for me. Voice level has never been a big factor in attraction for me.

Confidence is attractive.

A compatible sense of humour is something I find very attractive. For me that usually means very dry, sarcastic humour.

Not easily intimidated is a good quality.

Assertive = depends what you mean. Nobody finds a doormat appealing, but I generally don’t like guys who are too assertive. Has to be a balance. Mostly I just like really chill, laid-back guys.

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BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-10-30T16:55:32+00:00

What's the point of this question honey? Obv I love all of it, and THEN SOME. Emphasis on and then some.

sparklyyblueberryy · 2022-10-30T18:28:35+00:00

6’2: alright. I think it’s a bit to tall, 6’0 is good, 6’1 too but 6’2 is a bit to much but not a deal breaker.

Hair: Good.

Strong jaw: I care more about it being defined and chiseled than overtly strong. But good.

Narrow deep set…: Hunter eyes? I can like that for sure, but studies show most women don’t neither for LTR nor STR.

Nice white teeth: Just have normal teeth. To white teeth is some american bullshit.

Wide shoulder: Nice

V taper torso: I care mostly about shpulders being wide. Objectively narrow lower body is meh.

Low body fat: Within athlete range. Often men go way to low when they want to look handsome.

Defined arms: Sure but then again, athletic not roided look.

Deep voice: Normal voice is maybe better.

Confident: Nice

Funny: Nice

Not easily intimidated: Nice

Assertive: Within reason, to much is annoying…

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However, you need to list more personality traits.

punk_baby333 · 2022-10-30T18:32:41+00:00

6 foot 2 in height.

Attractive. Taller than me which is what I prefer.

Thick full head of hair.

Attractive. Looks nice I suppose. Also good genes to pass on to my kids.

Strong jaw.

Attractive. Masculine.

Narrow deep set intense eyes with nice straight eyebrows sat below a strong brow

Attractive I guess. I can't think of a reason why this would be unattractive, so... Facial features aren't that important to me as long as he's not ugly.

Nice white teeth

Attractive of course. Hygenic and looks nice.

Wide shoulders

Veryy attractive. I love a man who feels bigger than me.

V taper torso

Attractive. Not particularly so, but definitely not unattractive either. I don't care much about this tho. Square broad frames are more my thing.

Low body fat

Not unattractive, but I tend to prefer a bit of softness.

Defined arms

Big arms are attractive, I don't necessarily care about definition, although it certainly doesn't hurt.

Deep voice

Veryy attractive. Very masculine.

Confident

Very attractive also. This is pretty important to me.

Funny

Very attractive.

Not easily intimidated

Attractive, tho this doesn't matter as much to me.

Assertive

very atteactive.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-10-30T19:35:13+00:00

Attractive: hair, funny, low fat. Neutral: jaw (I've found a range attractive), teeth (I don't really notice so long a they aren't yellow), voice (idc about its pitch so long as it's within male range), not easily intimidated (can be good or bad), assertive (same thing). Not my preference: 6'2" (too tall for me), eyes (prefer bigger), wide shoulders (prefer to be able to easily put my arm around them), torso (prefer a rectangle), defined arms (not too into muscle), confident (prefer introverts). Nothing I'd actually reject someone based on though, but put them all together and we probably won't date.

Financial_Leave4411 · 2022-10-30T19:51:05+00:00

Height - don’t care as longs as he isn’t a midget or a giant.

Hair - like it. Just a preference but I don’t have an issue dating a bald guy.

Strong jaw - don’t care either way but I do prefer a clean shave over a beard.

Intense eyes and straight eyebrows - not a big fan. I prefer kind eyes over a guy who appears to be angry every day of the week. As for eyebrows I like a natural look as long as it’s not a unibrow.

White teeth - I like it because it shows good hygiene but they don’t need to be bleach white just not yellow and rotting.

Wide shoulders - no preference.

V taper - not a big fan as I prefer a more natural softer look.

Low body fat- I prefer a softer look. I want a guy who is up to have pizza and play a video game together from time to time rather than being so strict on diet. You can be a healthy weight without taking it to an extreme.

Defined arms - normal arms are fine. I like a guy who can scratch his own back without muscles getting in the way and who also isn’t anorexic.

Deep voice - nice but not necessary. As long as he doesn’t sound more feminine than me.

Confident - I like this in everyone so long as they aren’t cocky or ultra disagreeable.

Funny - I’m not a big fan. I don’t want someone who can’t take anything seriously.

Not easily intimidated - unsure. I don’t want a pushover but I do want a law abiding citizen who isn’t going to be overly aggressive.

Assertive - I like this in everyone.

RocinanteCoffee · 2022-10-30T20:01:14+00:00

6 foot 2 in height - neutral, I am attracted to many heights
Thick full head of hair - neutral, I love running my hands through a man's hair but I also have a penchant for baldies ever since my first crushes on Professor X and Captain Sisko
Strong jaw - I mean I like it to be strong enough for fervent kisses but I would date a disabled dude, if you mean a prominent jawline, I'm not even sure; I date a lot of bearded guys and don't feel it with my fingers
Narrow deep set intense eyes with nice straight eyebrows sat below a strong brow - Not the narrow part but otherwise this is appealing, sure, whether strong brow or not, deep set eyes with nice eyebrows are appealing to me
Nice white teeth - If they are blacklight activated or too bright (demon-white) then no, but I like a natural looking white or ivory, and am okay with pale yellow, just not brown teeth
Wide shoulders - I wouldn't say I predominantly go for this, no, but I like it too
V taper torso - Could take it or leave it; I have a penchant for barrel chests too
Low body fat - I do like this! But I also like Buddha bellies (give me washboard abs but please also give me soft round plush bellies to press up against)
Defined arms - I'm more of a hand person but this can be good; but I also like plush soft arms too
Deep voice - Most of the guys I've dated have had a deep voice, but I didn't hear it until our first date where I was already attracted to them; I like soft voices too though
Confident - If it's a mellow confidence yes; if it borders on arrogance, I'd rather have someone awkward honestly
Funny - they don't have to be a comedian or a perfect wit but they do have to have a good sense of humor
Not easily intimidated - It really depends, some people are healing from terrible things and I am very understanding of that. I don't expect them to save me from harm but I do expect them to help me save a puppy from a girl beating the puppy or help me pull kids to their feet if a bully has knocked them down
Assertive - This is fine as long as they aren't aggressive or obscenely inappropriate

kalashhhhhhhh · 2022-10-30T22:17:57+00:00

Positive- full head of hair, preferably longer; nicely defined jaw (nothing extreme), wide shoulders (a must), defined arms, levels, funny (very important), confident, assertive

Neutral- teeth, I barely notice people's teeth; 6'2 height, I've dated a 5'7 guy and a 6'5 guy and I don't really care much about either, low body fat is alright but doesn't have ro go to any extremes,

Negative- I am pretty neutral about voices as long as they are obviously male, but prefer soft spoken guys; wide shoulders and just straight hips > V shape, prefer bigger eyes, never noticed eyebrows on guys

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-10-31T03:33:05+00:00

I could do without the eyes. I would rather have a man with kind eyes, like Ryan Gosling, or a basset hound.

MistyMaisel · 2022-10-31T16:43:26+00:00

I don't feel like I feel anything about this list, just being honest. I can't even imagine the person really. Like, in isolation all of these traits might be great. They might even be great together. But it's really about harmony and all coming together well. So much of it is vague too. Like, what do these character traits mean? There's lots of people I recognize as funny that I don't enjoy being around because they're like dickbag funny. There's lots of confident people I don't enjoy being around because it's like oozing and robs everyone else of a chance to shine. Not easily intimidated can be nice, but also, it can just be an annoying macho-man quirk where they have to prove how not scared they are of everything. Assertive is fine, but what if it's aimed at me and I ain't to be told what is what and it has no compassion or mercy attached.

A lot of this also just does nothing for me like the height, full head of hair, v taper torso, deep voice, and white teeth. Like, it could be hot, but I'm not inherently dripping at any of it.

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