What do you think about these stats?

Rationalization · 2013-07-16T07:28:47+00:00

Homeless percentage is off and so the is the cancer stats.

Men are 67.5% of the SINGLE homeless population, and it is this population that makes up 76% of the homeless populations. http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/who.html

Death Rate is actually reversed.

"About 39,620 women will die from breast cancer" http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcancer/detailedguide/breast-cancer-key-statistics

"About 29,720 men will die of prostate cancer" http://www.cancer.org/cancer/prostatecancer/detailedguide/prostate-cancer-key-statistics

Which BTW is the same source as the info graphic. Willful misinformation.

Brendoncherms · 2013-07-16T05:50:16+00:00

I think they are outdated... Do you have any more recent polls?

evilbrent · 2013-07-16T10:27:28+00:00

What's the deal with the 238 already rich female CEO-ships? I don't understand what that's referring to.

stopsayingfaggot · 2013-07-16T05:00:16+00:00

Whoever made this doesn't know how pie charts are supposed to be used.

CosmicKeys · 2013-07-16T06:25:23+00:00

Nice, did you make this? A small PSA here: I you are going to make an infograph, putting time into the presentation goes an incredible way. And it's really easy, just check out there tools:

http://infogr.am/

http://piktochart.com/

http://visual.ly/

wadels · 2013-07-16T14:08:29+00:00

I have a problem with the cancer stats. Cancer is not something you can use in any gender related argument about how men or women have it worse in society. Cancer diagnosis rates and mortality rates are not at all affected by how society treats either gender. Cancer is a bitch and will affect anyone, male or female, young or old, rich or poor. However, the spending is something that we can use, not as a point of contention, but as a platform to defeat this horrible platform of diseases for everyone. Research funding is tricky for many reasons. Obviously the more the public is aware of a cancer, the more funding it will tend to receive (breast cancer, for example.) However, there are many more deadly cancers out there that affect both men and women in more equal ratios (lung cancer, pancreatic cancer), yet get less funding than breast cancer. This obviously affects the number of drugs and treatments that get out to the public, but everyone with these diseases are suffering from the lack of treatment options.

TL;DR: Cancer sucks for and can affect EVERYONE. Don't use it as a way of distinguishing between men and women.

EDIT: A few words.

Stephen1985 · 2013-07-16T10:01:37+00:00

You need a key to explain which colour represcents what. It's pretty obvious to me but to others it might not be.

2013-07-16T07:15:46+00:00

Well, It indeed is a man's world: men are dominating in all the charts! \s

AtheistConservative · 2013-07-16T06:34:50+00:00

Since when did women even come close to 10% of workplace deaths? Also 32% of the homeless seems high as well.

Most of these shouldn't be in the form of pie charts though. Bar graphs would better demonstrate most of the data.

factorygrrrl · 2013-07-16T13:59:22+00:00

Not really on topic but a coworker was just diagnosed w/ prostate Another coworker was diagnosed in the last 6 months w/ breast cancer. Guess which one is expected to survive it?

philosarapter · 2013-07-16T15:19:25+00:00

This infographic would be a lot clearer if the colors were labeled with their respective gender. I had no idea who the stats were favoring

TheDrunkenGhost · 2013-07-16T20:15:14+00:00

I think people can find stats to support any point they want. The trick is deriving a useful argument from the information. As opposed to simply demanding observance of self-serving statistics.

2013-07-16T20:16:40+00:00

I think you just need to look as far as the Race For Life in the UK, the fact that it's a women's only event and the fact that there's zero awareness that men can get breast cancer. The fact that Peter Criss gets breast cancer and it's a small story yet Angelina Jolie getting her breasts removed is big front page discussions regarding the issue, these inequalities in coverage and awareness is what little you need to know.

Abelisk · 2013-07-16T22:42:11+00:00

Better check your privilege, guys.

kulomascovia · 2013-07-16T06:48:21+00:00

So much privilege.

Beeni30 · 2013-07-16T12:38:18+00:00

Tzz whatever. We can lift way more

cainmadness · 2013-07-16T15:39:20+00:00

Lovely info, but a bit idorganized and jumbled.

And the graphs were confusing to figure out initially. The phrasing above it and then the color scheme were at odds, making it hard to tell which was representing which.

In short, the thing needs to be redone in a more orderly and identifable fashion.

iMADEthis2post · 2013-07-16T18:00:26+00:00

I couldn't reference them as I'm not one for holding bookmarks but I believe paternity fraud is between 10 and 12% not 4%

pcarvious · 2013-07-16T18:29:04+00:00

I'd like to see the sources incorporated more into the actually infographic. X number of studies by Y group doesn't stand out as a good way to source things to me because I can't read their studies myself.

SilencingNarrative · 2013-07-16T19:01:26+00:00

Would you mind providing more info on the number of hours worked? Do you have a link to the page containing that stat? I would love to quote that one in polite conversation but I need to know which table it is from.

haland69 · 2013-07-16T20:46:57+00:00

How come I never see one of these with current data? All the info on this chart is almost if not over a decade old.

Plan9Channel7 · 2013-07-17T01:19:32+00:00

Because everyone loves tits.... No matter the gender.

SirSkeptic · 2013-07-16T09:44:33+00:00

Australia is actually doing something about the gender disparity in the homeless population.

They are redefining the word "homeless" to mean somebody who doesn't own or part-own a house.

Now in Australia, women make up the majority of the homeless. Problem solved.

duglock · 2013-07-16T12:50:01+00:00

I would have reposted this had it not had the CEO thing in it. Came across as petty. Otherwise great graphic.

Vancha · 2013-07-16T15:24:33+00:00

What do I think about these stats? I think they use a lot of words and pretty pictures to say barely anything at all, but even the info I might take at face-value is thrown into doubt by the immensely sensationalist style of it.

As it is, I'm pretty sure every single pie-chart on there is irrelevant without context. For example, if the chance of being sentenced to death for the same crime is comparing the total number of men put to death with the total number of women put to death, then not only do we need to know how many men and women are committing that crime, but also how many are being arrested for it, how many are tried for it and the details of each crime committed. If there are 20 times the amount of men committing the crime, or if men are killing 20 times the amount of people, or if the motive is 20 times as heinous (fun rather than passion, say), then no shit they're going to get sentenced to death 20 times as often...

Solvoid · 2013-07-16T08:44:24+00:00

colors wtf?

eggilicious · 2013-07-16T14:55:48+00:00

sauces?

doughd · 2013-07-16T15:56:52+00:00

This sub is so stats happy. As a researcher, I would love it if we could please provide links to sources. That way stats nerds like myself could actually believe what we see.

Bohica69 · 2013-07-16T16:05:24+00:00

Being a smart man begins with being selfish and not being so stupid as to put yourself at risk:

Don't get married and, if you do, require a prenup.
Realize that children don't make your life happier or better.
Control your own finances and financial future.
Control your own birth control choices.
Get an education and focus on smart career objectives and choices.
If you're going to get married, don't do it until after the age of 35, with a prenup.

Simple solutions to make your life better rather than justify blaming "society" for stupid, shitty choices. Marriage is vastly overrated, pointless and financially risky, for men. Get the memo.

2013-07-16T18:30:08+00:00

You mean, what do we think of your crappy chart? Looks ugly and disorganized. You also put false information on there.

D+

lois88 · 2013-07-16T19:02:23+00:00

Comparing male and female work place deaths is like comparing male and female pregnancy deaths.

undervannsjeger · 2013-07-16T07:51:20+00:00

if the work hours one is corrrect there is a paygap afterall... in the favor if women.

avantvernacular · 2013-07-16T12:35:27+00:00

So much privilege!

rbcrusaders · 2013-07-16T06:06:11+00:00

very frustrating

XtraStrongMint · 2013-07-16T10:10:44+00:00

Subscribed a few weeks ago, and man....You guys sure do bitch a lot. Being a man > being a woman. So why bother with statistics unless you are the statistic by choice, and in which case your gender is meaningless. You drew the lion's share when you were XY'd as a fetus. /end rant

Title	What do you think about these stats?
Author	jpcassil
Upvotes	807
Comments	102
Date	July 16, 2013 4:38 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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