UK: Former student, 23, accused of rape by female friend who 'woke up on top of him after they shared a bottle of Prosecco' is cleared. Outrageous he was even charged.

LinkRar · 2017-09-22T12:34:47+00:00

The part that bothers me the most is that they don't release the girl's name because of "legal reasons." SURE, SURE. THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

GlassTwiceTooBig · 2017-09-22T13:21:05+00:00

"My husband gave me PTSD because I woke up after drinking heavily to find him under me with a knife in his chest! I'm going to need years of therapy, and his surviving family needs to compensate me for it!"

benno2332 · 2017-09-22T13:42:39+00:00

The woman cannot be named for legal reasons, but his name has been dragged through the mud for 3 YEARS.

Men need more protection when it comes to rape accusations. Their names should ONLY be released once they've been proven guilty. There are groups of radical feminists out there that will still think he's guilty because of #IBelieveHer, encouraging people to instantaneously believe he's guilty without even a shred of evidence.

furchfur · 2017-09-22T09:05:35+00:00

Obviously this was regret sex, they did not actually have sex or even she raped him, I mean she was on top!

SomeoneStopMePlease · 2017-09-22T14:46:53+00:00

If people have to register as sex offenders when they commit crime, people should have to register as a false sexual accuser when they lie.

2017-09-22T14:02:21+00:00

What pisses me off about the aftermath is that his picture and name are plastered EVERYWHERE this story is discussed but hers are absent. How come no one gets to find out who she is? His name is now irrevocably tied to a rape charge thanks to the longevity of the internet, but hers won't be associated with a false rape accusation?

brokedown · 2017-09-22T15:51:18+00:00

Holy shit they posted so many photos of this dude, and none of the girl.

furyoffive · 2017-09-22T13:59:15+00:00

Also no pictures of this lovely young lady...

Joemanji84 · 2017-09-22T12:35:25+00:00

Hard to know what actually happened, based on the evidence presented in the article. Another he-said/she-said case. Glad the court didn't cave to the "listen and believe" mantra though.

derpylord143 · 2017-09-22T13:52:38+00:00

What it's even happening with the courts in the UK?

Dalinair · 2017-09-22T14:34:14+00:00

She should be named and shamed on there.

AndrasOpinio · 2017-09-22T14:22:15+00:00

What are the actual "legal reasons" for not naming her? Why does his name get plastered and she gets off anonymously?

geniice · 2017-09-22T16:33:16+00:00

It's a shame no one will ever hold her truly accountable

HenryCurtmantle · 2017-09-22T17:06:07+00:00

If a man gets drunk and has sex, he's a rapist. If a woman gets drunk and has sex, she's been raped.

Because equality, ya know.

Consilio_et_Animis · 2017-09-22T20:40:32+00:00

What's really frightening is that he was tried twice, and both times the jury was hung. That means that at least one of two of the jurors had found him guilty.

foot_kisser · 2017-09-22T16:42:04+00:00

It makes no sense to give her anonymity, but not give it to him.

If neither were anonymous, that might discourage people from reporting a rape falsely, because if people figure out that they're lying, they'll take a hit to their reputation. If both were anonymous, the victim of a false accusation wouldn't have his name and photo forever associated with rape after being acquitted.

With her being anonymous and him having his picture in the papers next to the word "rape", it's plausible for an accuser who is lying to be motivated by the harm she can do to his reputation without being similarly harmed herself.

This seems to be most likely a misunderstanding on her part, but many people are going to assume she's a lying slut, and many other people are going to assume he's a rapist. But we know not only his name, but exactly what he looks like, while we don't know anything at all about her. There are potential bad effects for both of their reputations, and only the one who instigates the court proceedings gets anonymity. Basically, the courts are providing a motivation for lying about rape.

Neldryn · 2017-09-22T17:21:24+00:00

Female woke up on top of him... So he undressed her and put her on top of him and left her there?

bear2dbone · 2017-09-22T18:20:03+00:00

It is completely unfair, prejudice and plain wrong that the girl is not named and no photograph is shown of her. Unfair

Mythandros · 2017-09-22T21:50:04+00:00

So... It's OK to drag his name through the mud... But not hers?

What a complete farce.

Feeham4prez · 2017-09-22T16:46:49+00:00

This is one of those times where'd I'd be totally fine with hearing someone was doxxed

doihavemakeanewword · 2017-09-22T16:34:35+00:00

I get it, people get drunk at parties and loose some control over their actions and you can't call that consent.

But chances are they're both going to be drunk at least some of the time and neither of them could give consent to what happened.

IronJohnMRA · 2017-09-22T22:03:02+00:00

The judge Recorder Rowena Goode told him: 'We have heard what has been said that means we must draw a line under this matter. May I remind parties that the complainant will receive lifetime anonymity.'

The wording here really bothers me. They make it sound like the woman is receiving an award for a job well done. It definitely sends the wrong message to would be false accusers.

MartBehaim · 2017-09-22T22:50:56+00:00

This is clear failure of prosecutors. They had no legal reason to conduct prosecution. Either prosecutors are biased feminists or stupid cowards passing resposibility to the court.

geniice · 2017-09-22T23:39:33+00:00

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sleepisme · 2017-09-23T01:53:17+00:00

Man: Excuse me, m'am. You dropped your keys.

Woman: Rape! Rape!

mrwhibbley · 2017-09-23T05:26:15+00:00

Lifetime anonymity for her but never for him. Hmmmmmm

Just4yourpost · 2017-09-23T06:34:39+00:00

Keep on trusting womyn guys.

"That can't happen to me" "No girl I know would be batshit crazy".

You reap what you fucking sow.

a_posh_trophy · 2017-09-22T20:42:53+00:00

Rule is; if you're both blind drunk, then you either both consented, or neither of you did. I hope she is eventually ousted and tried appropriately.

geniice · 2017-09-22T15:44:44+00:00

I don't know the UK law on this, but it seems like a civil action for libel or slander might be appropriate.

lemproplayer · 2017-09-22T16:48:49+00:00

Imagine tho you get accused of rape and they use the 4th picture In the article lmao feels bad

RolfIsSonOfShepnard · 2017-09-22T17:30:08+00:00

Does the UK have any laws regarding filing a false police report? If so do the police ever try to press charges when it comes to rape accusations or should we just call this a pussypass?

2017-09-22T20:13:33+00:00

And now his name is tarnished. Awesome....

tetraourogallus · 2017-09-22T20:18:53+00:00

How big was that bottle of Prosecco?

2017-09-22T21:46:53+00:00

Too bad he didn't charge her with sexual assault in response.

I say sexual assault because in the U.K., women can't rape legally.

Trident1000 · 2017-09-22T23:02:20+00:00

He should just drop her name

GreasedLightning · 2017-09-23T01:01:23+00:00

Wanna hear a rape joke? This guy raping somebody.

MrMatmaka · 2017-09-23T09:25:56+00:00

Is it me, or is this scenario written in such a way that she might've sobered up while having drunk sex, then refused to accept that's what happened?

2017-09-23T10:02:13+00:00

Its just so sad what they do to these young men. No recourse. Even without being convicted, his name will appear online for the rest of his life.

rubenroadtrip1 · 2017-09-23T16:09:59+00:00

My girlfriend told me of a guy in her uni who was accused of raping a girl and it seemed like everyone was vilifying him and he hasn't even been convicted.

Title	UK: Former student, 23, accused of rape by female friend who 'woke up on top of him after they shared a bottle of Prosecco' is cleared. Outrageous he was even charged.
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	2457
Comments	161
Date	September 22, 2017 9:04 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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