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Mother-of-two, 40, falsely branded a neighbour a sex offender because he 'made too much noise building a guinea pig hutch in his garden'. It seems for many women if they do not get their way they make a false sex allegation knowing a man is not protected by the law.

furchfur

March 4, 2019
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Title Mother-of-two, 40, falsely branded a neighbour a sex offender because he 'made too much noise building a guinea pig hutch in his garden'. It seems for many women if they do not get their way they make a false sex allegation knowing a man is not protected by the law.
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Date March 4, 2019 11:05 AM UTC
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Comments

[–]tk1712 336 points337 points338 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The funniest part is she doesn’t even have a job. She sits around collecting welfare checks apparently. Pathetic leech of a woman. A drain on society.

[–]camletoejoe 87 points88 points89 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is a fucking welfare queen. Probably never had a job an she harasses the shit out of this dad and his kids. The guy was in the military and has ptsd and the harpy terrorizes him for building a bench for his kids hamster? What a whack job.

[–]DildoPolice 29 points30 points31 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sitting at home waiting for her neighbors to make noise so she can call the cops and cry for nothing.

[–]Rethgil 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Where did we get this bullshit notion that 'women don't lie' from?!

Women lie ALL the time, about EVERYTHING!

Just ask other women about this. They'll tell you their female friends always make up bullshit to outdo each other, to have excuses, to get their own way and more. And obviously to men.

All of a sudden we've ended up with laws that say female 'victims' MUST be believed??? Utter madness. No wonder the world is at war with each other. Its like giving women a nuclear bomb each and saying 'use it when you want yeah?'.

Women should be believed just as much and no further than men should for any other crimes they accuse people of. Its not about 'believing', its about EVIDENCE, FACT, AND the law. Fuck off with your 'my feelz are proof enough'.

[–][deleted] 687 points688 points689 points 7 years ago (107 children) | Copy Link

But false accusations are soooo rare. BS.

[–]Valmar33 187 points188 points189 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Indeed, it doesn't take much to realize that malicious and abusive piece-of-shit women, who make false sexual accusations, depend on people believing that they're rare. That way, they can keep abusing these privileges as much as they want, because #BelieveWahman and #MeToo.

[–]itsforthenguyen 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

#metoo has a real message, but these people are messing it up and ruining for the real victims, which include people from nearly every walk in life (male, female, intersex, adult, child, etc.)

[–]Valmar33 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Wasn't #MeToo created by the Feminist SJW crowd initially to attack and smear Trump, whom the extreme Left hate so strongly? It's funny how, with #MeToo, when it's... convenient, the false accusers just pop out of the woodwork, ready to destroy.

From there, it's been used as a weapon against any and every innocent man that the extreme Left hate, from Assange, to Kavanaugh,to Trump, to various celebrities, like Vic Mignogna.

So, if anything, #MeToo's message is about false sexual accusations used to ruin the lives of innocent people that stand in the way of the Globalists, as well as other easy targets.

[–]Angela-Rijal 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Scary #metoo has reached our schools. My 13 year old child is a victim. He made a girl mad at school and she went to the office with 4 of her friends and accused him of sexual misconduct. In the era of # metoo he was handcuffed and arrested and detained in a juvenile, facing serious criminal charges. They claimed it happened inside the classroom where teachers, and 26 other students were present. No one saw or heard anything. Any reasonable adult knows that could not happen and go unnoticed. They had no proof and no evidence but still he was arrested. We are fighting these charges with everything we got. Read his story at fundedjustice. I have had to set up a defense fund account because legal fees are mountin. “13 year old 7th grader handcuffed and arrested at school for #metoo allegations. Please read and help support and share.

[–]Lezardvy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How can this happen? The world is getting more and more fucked up

[–]Angela-Rijal 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It should of never gotten to this point. My kiddo is an a and b student, well liked by his teachers and friends. They took it too far. I looked at the assistant principals Facebook and she is a feminist. That concerns me. He has been severely traumatized by all this. He is just a child. That’s the first thing I said How can this happen?

[–]Lezardvy 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He could develop thrust issues with women in the future. How can this go on if people around says it didn't happen? What does the school do about it?

[–]hankbaumbach 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'll take a swing at this mostly for anyone else who reads it, not necessarily OP who may be too far gone worried about "Globalists" to listen to reason:

The Me Too movement (or #MeToo movement), with a large variety of local and international alternative names, is a movement against sexual harassment and sexual assault.[1][2][3] The movement began to spread virally in October 2017 as a hashtag on social media in an attempt to demonstrate the widespread prevalence of sexual assault and harassment, especially in the workplace.[4][5][6] It followed sexual-abuse allegations against Harvey Weinstein.[7][8] Tarana Burke, an American social activist and community organizer, began using the phrase "Me Too" as early as 2006, and the phrase was later popularized by American actress Alyssa Milano, on Twitter in 2017. Milano encouraged victims of sexual harassment to tweet about it and "give people a sense of the magnitude of the problem".[9][10] A number of high-profile posts and responses from American celebrities Gwyneth Paltrow,[11] Ashley Judd,[12] Jennifer Lawrence,[13] and Uma Thurman, among others, soon followed.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_Too_movement

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[–]hankbaumbach 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Honestly, I do not care if people want to disagree with me as long as that debate takes place in the same objective reality we all share.

When misinformation or even disinformation tries to muddy the waters, I think it's all of our duty to root the debate back in that shared reality that exists independent of us as individuals.

In this particular case, trying to assert the MeToo movement was in direct response to Trump instead of direct response to Harvey Weinstein is what I took issue with from OP.

[–]itsforthenguyen 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's a huge difference between actual victims and false accusers. Those marching under #metoo unfortunately can be one, the other, or both.

Even if you don't agree with the political spectrum of its originators, you should at least recognize that there are actual victims, male and female, who have lost dearly from the current running system. (I totally agree with false accusers, if proven, should be prosecuted BTW).

[–]PotatoPopsicles 290 points291 points292 points 7 years ago (56 children) | Copy Link

THIS. I’m sick and tired of hearing that “no one would lie about sexual assault.”

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (54 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 44 points45 points46 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Is there a link for that about women committing 80% of fraud?

[–]Jerzeem 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's not a link for that because according to the FBI statistics he is incorrect. Note that the statistic there is arrests for fraud, but it shows 61.3% of the people arrested for fraud are male. It is possible that women are just better at not getting arrested for committing fraud despite committing it far more often, but I would expect not expect that to sway the values as far as he claimed. If he has a source, I would dearly love to see it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for the information!

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know if it’s 80 percent but it is the majority. Financial frauds is majority women

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Someone linked below showing men hold the majority.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I must have seen wrong. I’ve seen it on reddit before that women are majority of fraud

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

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[–]wh11 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The fuck? I’m interested as well so I can use it for support. Share it if you didn’t pull out of your ass

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly why I was asking. Jesus he had a response, didn't he

[–]you-create-energy 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That would be a big nope.

[–]POSVT 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So that would be a no, then. Strong work sport.

[–]Tiptoad 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You’re a piece of shit that only delegitimizes any arguments made here.

[+]camletoejoe -13 points-12 points-11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"I demand you provide a link for every single word you say"

That is not an argument. That is a demand.

[–]slowdrem20 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes we want to confirm your statistics are true so that we can use them without looking like an ass when someone asks for a source

[–]Tiptoad 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When you engage in a conversation and throw out inflammatory numbers to support your biases then tell people to take a hike when they politely ask where you got that information, you should just keep your made up bullshit to yourself. You have nothing useful to add to the discussion and no sound person will regard you with anything of substance. The fact that you’re on a thread about the injustice of people fabricating truths is completely lost on you.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That link doesn't work.

[–]PotatoPopsicles 43 points44 points45 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s an effect of our culture promoting the idea that women are always victims of circumstance somehow. It’s never a woman’s own fault. Thinking you can get away with it is a pretty good extra motive to commit fraud of any kind for any intent, whether that be benefitting yourself, harming someone else, or both.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

Have you ever come across a woman who’s the product of the system like that?

She never takes responsibility, likes to find reasons for her misfortunes that aren’t her and blames the other person.

She likes to make herself seem as pitiful as possible because the attention feels that good to her.

She’ll threaten you by saying her brother is going to your house, but if you call her a bitch because of that, now you’re verbally abusive.

It’s disgusting man; fuck my ex.

[–]PotatoPopsicles 27 points28 points29 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If someone doesn’t give you what you want the way you want it, threaten them. If they call you out, cry. If they still refuse your BS, cry to the police. If the police see through your BS, take it to social media and destroy the existence of every dissenter. And because you’re a little lady you were the victim all along.

[–]Desturbinsight 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of my interactions with women fall under this template. When i was very young My sister used to attack me all the time any time, often if I disagreed with her shed threaten to kick me in the crotch. When we were in our 20s, I was honestly twice her size. Did martial arts and powerlifting. We disagreed on how a movie ended. When i wouldnt admit she was right, she reached over and clawed into my forearm so deep, it was dripping blood all over the car. I remember being so angry bc if i lost control, she could get seriously injured. But she didn't care. Her safety depended on my maturity. So shitty

In HS a girl kept talking about how all guys are the same, and were all immoral. I said that was a pretty blanket, sexist statement, what if i said all women made blanket snap judgements. She threatened to "pepper spray my ass".

Slightly different but; My ex used to punch me a lot, playfully mostly, but sometimes in response to something she didn't like. I asked her to stop. She said "but you said it doesnt hurt" "It doesn't. But I dont like it; it's rude. I would never hit you, why would you think it's ok to keep doing it to me after ive many times asked you not to.

She got angry at me for "making her feel bad". Smh Its not all women of course, and its not caused by "being female". Its just people choosing to be shitty. The part that really cuts is that so many people act like these things are ok, acceptable or sometimes they treat them as admirable. No one likes to be treated like shit, and then have the world tell you that its ok for "this group" to do that to you. Idk. Id hope people wanted to be better than that.

[–]camletoejoe 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Actually once the little old lady puts the SEXX allegations or DV allegations on the guy that will be all she wrote. The police will not listen to what the guy says and if he ends up in prison he will fight for his life. The woman can literally be running a MASSIVE criminal organization and get away with this shit. Often times taking out the guys that wont go along like male family members and other males that wont play ball or just know too much and ran. Personally have seen it.

[–]dcommini 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like my ex as well.

[–]you-create-energy 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I definitely have, and I've come across men who are like that too. It's disgusting.

[–]camletoejoe 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just to be sure, yes, there are some real bad dudes out there that are extremely manipulative as fuck. That's a fact.

Also a fact, the system is not set up to cater to their every little whim. They have to be more careful usually. They are easier to escape from and keep distance from.

[–]camletoejoe 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seen that kind of stuff. Often times they end up involved in criminal shit once they realize the free pass can lead to a fucking GRAVY TRAIN.

[–]NyxionYT 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I’m 12, that pretty much describes my ex.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That’s why anyone commits a crime. Because they’re confident they can get away with it.

False rape accusers are taking full advantage of the current climate

[–]50kent 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

You got a source on that stat?

[–]steamedhamjob 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.vocativ.com/usa/justice-usa/crimes-women-commit-most-often/index.html

I’m not good at research, but I did find this. It says the source is the Department of Justice, but I can’t find any specific numbers. However this does show that he didn’t pull the numbers out of nowhere. In the fraud area men are around 2% and women are at 8%. However, if I’m understanding this correctly, it’s listing the percentages of the inmates that committed the crime based on total inmates for each gender and not the cumulative total of all inmates of both genders. As in, 2% of men in jail committed fraud and 8% of women in jail committed fraud.

When I looked up arrest records for total amounts of people arrested for fraud, there were around 75,000 men arrested and 60,000 women arrested as of 2015 (counts graph / rates graph). However, the total amount of arrests for men is a little over 8,000,000 and women is around 3,000,000. Which comes out to 0.9% of men and 2% of women arrested for fraud. I don’t know if other crimes that technically fit under fraud were included or not.

So it seems that women haven’t committed more fraud in total compared to men, but as a gender they are more likely to commit fraud than men.

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[–]50kent 23 points24 points25 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

It’s not well known (I’ve never heard it before) and the burden of proof is on you for bringing up the stat. And I actually did google it and found nothing so please enlighten me

[+]camletoejoe -18 points-17 points-16 points 7 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Hey tell me something. When a few leftist Marxist mods and some nut-jobs on reddit follow you around and send you harassing PMs and stalk you essentially, what is the recourse for that again?

[–]50kent 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck are you talking about either you have a source for your claim or you pulled it out of your ass which is it

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like he pulled it out of his ass to me.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

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[–]50kent 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I don’t moderate anything but I don’t see how it would be at all relevant to you providing the source for your claim. That gif was extremely irrelevant. It’s clear you have no source for that claim and just made it up

[–]cup_ofwater 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think you're the one that needs to fuck off, you obviously don't have a very good grip on reality and have no clue a out how go maintain a coherent conversation

[–]camletoejoe -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you know anything about cyberstalking?

[–]Venomrod 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The tools are handed to them. They even collect names and use them.

[–]you-create-energy -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How did this bullshit post get so many upvotes? Are there really that many people here who accept such a ridiculous statement at face value?

[+]Houdiniman111 -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

80%%%

... So 0.008%? A statistically insignificant amount?

EDIT: Sure. Keep downvoting my confused commenting on their extra %s.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. I am an actual sexual assault victim and I can confirm that women like to lie about that shit for sympathy points or make it their "goal" to spread the word about "violent men."

[–]Itisme129 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know what, even if it was rare, that's completely besides the point! We can't have a justice system that allows for gross with no recourse.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 7 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

I've never seen anything to back up that assertion. No research. I have seen a few older studies that put the false allegation rate near 40-50% though.

[–]genkernels 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

According to a 1996 Department of Justice report, “in about 25% of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI, ... the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing.

That's a new one to me, I like it. That said, it is kinda weird to exclude the FBI's ~8% in your counter-assertion.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Those weren't my links. I just googled 50% of rape allegations are false.

[–]genkernels 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I just googled 50% of rape allegations are false.

Ouch. Doesn't exactly help your claim of having not seen anything to back up a low rate though. Not that I'd call 8% or 6% low.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't seen any research for a less than 10% rate. I have seen research for close to 50% which is why I googled that. I have seen and heard assertions for single digit false allegation rates but I haven't seen any research to back that up yet.

[–]genkernels 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What research have you seen in the 10-40 range? I dunno, but it certainly does sound suspicious if the only figures you've run across are Kanin and Jordan.

While it isn't exactly the majority of results, that FBI figure for 8% is pretty famous (not sure if that is different from the 1997 U.S. Department of Justice report which is also 8%), and then there's a couple 6% studies hanging around that are newer, and there's a bullshit 2% number based on (I think) threat of arrest for perjury, and then another 2% figure that's nothing more than a woozle.

[–]skepticalbob 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If that's all you have found, you aren't really doing any research. If you think you have, present the other one's that have attempted to measure this, because they exist.

[–]victorfiction 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Especially common when white women accuse men of color. Tragic that this gets lost in the SJW panic to believe victims... they’re literally putting more men of color in jail in favor of white privilege women.

[–]NyxionYT 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m black, but I’m still against criminalizing white people or anybody for that matter based on race, and even though the women who mentioned him is a a crazy left wing liberal black lady who absolutely HATES white people, I will mention Emit Till for this situation, the words of a white woman without any evidence whatsoever were able to convince 2 men turner a boy who wasn’t even 16 yet. Words have power if used correctly I mean being smart about them not using them for the right thing even as a 12 year old kid I’m able to understand this, and while my depth of knowledge pales in comparison to a lot of the people on here, if it’s to the point where gender and race still have that much influence in modern life it should arise that it’s a problem, yet most people are to ignorant sometimes and neglect the fact of the matter. What I’m trying to say here is that the world is blind, and those who know fall into 3 categories. Those who don’t care, those who support it, and that small portion that advocate for true gender equality.

[–]you-create-energy 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority of sexual abuse goes unreported. However I suspect false accusers are more comfortable about going public, because they are not experiencing the shame of people finding out about the most humiliating experiences of their life. That distorts the figures. It also underscores how much courage it takes to go public when it's legitimate. So even if a significant percentage of public accusations are proven false, that doesn't mean that sexual assault is rare or that a friend or family member who opens up to you is probably lying. It's important to keep those difference straight in our heads.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Critics are always citing Rape Accusations that were successfully found to be false in court.

Imagine the amount Rape Accusations that were false but judged as true based on flimsy evidence. Then they'd see how much of an issue it is.

Or the amount of Rape Accusations that were assumed to be true only to be found as false after the accused was lynched, socially and physically.

[–]rrawk 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I swear someone recently mentioned on reddit about a book a woman wrote about getting ahead in business using sexual harassment claims.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Iirc. Damn how to destroy a man, now.

[–]junkeee999 -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it happened at least once.

Yes I know it happens more, so spare me more links. My point is, this article alone proves nothing. It's one anecdotal account.

[+]skepticalbob -6 points-5 points-4 points 7 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Citation needed. You made the claim. Anecdotes aren't data.

[–]Endless_Summer 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

You're right. False rape accusations are rare. As rare as women being raped in first world countries.

[–]skepticalbob -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Citation needed. Given available data, that is wrong by a factor of ten.

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Uhh, if you're saying it's a common occurrence, you need to source that.

[–]skepticalbob -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

But you don’t then, right? It’s like playing tennis without the net. You made the claim. I asked for a citation. Now you wanna get out of doing that. You’ve done a literature review on it right?

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

You never sourced that false allegations are rare, which was your first assertion.

You cite what you stated first, dum-dum

[–]skepticalbob -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/9hr341/fact_checking_false_rape_accusations_and_why_you/

You're right. False rape accusations are rare. As rare as women being raped in first world countries.

Citation or admit you’re wrong. I know you can’t. It’s fine. Run along.

[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You keep implying you have peer reviewed data showing that false rape allegations are incredibly rare.

Post it or stfu

[–]skepticalbob -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is a ton of data in the post you responded to. Read it or fuck off. I don’t care.

[–]genkernels 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There is a time and a place to complain about anecdotes. This isn't it. The majority of people here have seen the table from the Rumney meta-study, and the majority of those know a few pointers on why a few of the statistics on both the low and high end are questionable. No one needs to repost that here because this isn't an academic excursus for your benefit.

And have you really never heard the phrase "why would she lie?"?

[–]skepticalbob -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority of accusations are truthful.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/9hr341/fact_checking_false_rape_accusations_and_why_you/

[–]genkernels 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

The vast majority of accusations are truthful.

From your link:

A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found a 7.1% of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009).

Now remember what ChensKitchen said:

But false accusations are soooo rare.

These things are in agreement. One in fifteen official statements is not rare when it comes to a failure of truth-telling. Considerably less so when that is life-destroying. When people say that false allegations are rare, they mean something else.

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But you'll notice that article attributes statements to "the MRA movement" (lol) that are strawmans (for instance, that life-destroying allegations primarily refers to false convictions rather than social consequences), and that the article itself is self-contradictory in its talk about sample sizes, and doesn't even read the studies it (mis-)quotes. My favorite example of that last part is it's claim that "55% of False Rape Accusations are in hopes of getting free medical treatment.", when the study actually plainly noted a total of 6 (six) such false allegations, and not anywhere close to 55% of the sample. It is not the only study misrepresented (the 2-10% citation via NSVRC is itself an indirect misrepresentation of study results).

[–]skepticalbob -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

The type of accusation these folks fear is rare. Many if not most false accusations are unnamed. Most of the rest are parents accusing on behalf of children. If you talk to sex crimes detectives, the false accusations are pretty much all obvious and don’t harm anyone. You can’t look at a statistic that contains a bunch of different situations in one number and make up credible fears about your vulnerability. The vast majority of accusations are real.

Keep reading and stop getting lies from this sub.

[–]genkernels 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Keep reading and stop getting lies from this sub.

I have amply demonstrated to you that your article is lying, and agreed with it's main statistic while still holding all the MRA conclusions you seem to hate. You now want to move the goalposts and make me explain the several ways in which the article is stretching the truth in order to come up with it's ridiculous fraction of a fraction of a fraction, which is noted in that very thread.

[–]skepticalbob 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You have presented nothing. You have picked nits of the commentary that accompanied a ton of evidence and ignored everything you didn't want to hear.

It's not credible. If you don't want to be accused of rape, the absolute best way to make that a reality is to refrain from raping someone. Deal with it.

[–]genkernels 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

You have presented nothing. You have picked nits

Showing a marked disregard in whether what what one is presenting is true is not a nit. Pointing out that one of the main excercises used in the article (the fraction of a fraction bit) is problematic is not a nit. Pointing out that that the 7.1% figure quoted is high is not a nit. Pointing out that the article is out to strawman this community is not nit.

If you don't want to be accused of rape, the absolute best way to make that a reality is to refrain from raping someone.

True. However, you can see how this is irrelevant and malicious, right?

[–]skepticalbob -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Bury your head in the sand. Your mind is unable to be changed. And you know this.

[–][deleted] 133 points134 points135 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I like how dailymail still has a comment section

[–]-Master-Builder- 37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Would you alienate your userbase by taking away the comment section? Who do you think is reading these articles.

[–]theanchorman05 61 points62 points63 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

ESPN got rid of their comment section last year because people would call them out on their biased stories.

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[+]-Master-Builder- -64 points-63 points-62 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Daily mail makes its money on male outrage. Without an echo chamber, men would just go somewhere else to complain about it.

[–]TheAngryBird03 24 points25 points26 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I don’t know where you are getting this information from. Are you just plucking your opinion out the air?

If any paper was going to make money on Male outrage; which I suspect is a pretty niche topic to make money on, then it would be the Sun.

Edit: I think I am misunderstanding the previous comment

[–]-Master-Builder- -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm going off the fact that many of their articles are anti-male or pro-feminism.

Doing that without giving a space for the men to get angry at what is being said is just poor business direction. I'm not speaking for or against the articles. I'm merely saying that the articles have a definite bias, the company knows that, and everything I've seen says they're okay with it and it seems to be their business model.

If you want to infer anything else from what I'm saying, that is entirely up to you. Just leave me out of it.

[–]TheAngryBird03 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok, I don’t really understand what you are saying, maybe that’s why you are getting heavily downvoted, I think people are misunderstanding your point of view.

[–]-Master-Builder- 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whatever. I get misunderstood a lot.

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points30 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

On the bright side, the false accuser is the one getting punished.

[–]meeselbon573 150 points151 points152 points 7 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

And we have made those women the most powerful people in our society.

[–]Escenze 46 points47 points48 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tbh they've taken it through politics, manipulation and lies.

[+][deleted] -57 points-56 points-55 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Are u fucking joking me? A woman isn't the most powerful people in our society. Bro get a grip, like a bunch of incels in this sub it's making the rest of us look bad. I care for mens right but I dont care for hating women.

[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

I think it’s reasonable to hate women that make false accusations. I hate it when tards like you just call us incels for speaking out against this shit. It proves nothing. Besides, who says a woman can’t overpower a man?

[–]NorseGaelStraya 20 points21 points22 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

They can overpower us in a way jack can't logically comprehend.

She has an issue with you, accuses you of a crime based on no evidence, the community backlash hits you, the media report that you're accuse, accused = must be guilty.

It's the Salem witch trials of the modern age.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wow you guys have created a whole new level of victim complex for yourselves. You can't really believe this is comparable to the Salem witch trials can you?

[–]NorseGaelStraya 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't get it.

It's condemning someone for something they may have or may have not done, on the basis of no evidence.

That is what we're saying.

I would rather die than have my reputation ruined to be imprisoned as well... so it's worse imo

[+][deleted] -19 points-18 points-17 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How are you speaking out? You're just complaining on reddit, that's not speaking out and it's never reasonable to hate women or any group of people, it's reasonable to hate a person that is a woman.

[–]biggustdikkus 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it's never reasonable to hate women or any group of people

-You

I think it’s reasonable to hate women that make false accusations.

-Shaggy

You're either not reading, or intentionally avoiding that part

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So are you agreeing or disagreeing with me?

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s not complaining, it is speaking out. I didn’t say I hated all women, I said I hated women that make false accusations. I hate anyone that makes false accusations.

[–]Kittiecat4000 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're right, what power? He called the police, she was charged. She's a terrible person, but people should read the article before demonizing society. There are examples of people making false allegations that have lead to ruining other's lives. This isn't one of them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly, thank you

[+]DrewFlan -12 points-11 points-10 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Uhh, what? No we haven't.

[–]levelate 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

i like how you backed up your statement with facts and sources.

well done.

[–]DrewFlan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I like how the original comment did the same thing.

EDIT: In case you do want numbers:

~65% of judges are men. https://www.nawj.org/statistics/2018-us-state-court-women-judges

~75% of politicians are men. https://www.cawp.rutgers.edu/current-numbers

Who, specifically, "made women the most powerful people" in your opinion?

[–]Wsing1974 45 points46 points47 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is "black anti-burglary paint"?

[–]sparetosser2018 33 points34 points35 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

After a brief Google search, it appears to be grease that doesn't dry up, and makes things really hard to climb.

[–]Admin071313 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Also gets all over your hands/clothes so it's very obvious if you climbed over somebody's wall/fence

[–]Tiiimmmbooo 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I ruined a sweater from drunkenly jumping over a greased fence. That stuff is nasty.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like something a burglar would say...

[–]Tiiimmmbooo 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nah, just drank way too many fishbowls. Got chewed out for that one lol.

[–]SpaceDog777 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Takes me back to New Orleans the day I ended up in a gay bar to watch the Saints game. I didn't realise it was a gay bay till just after half-time.

[–]rab912009 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Was it a black tactical turtle neck?

[–]MaybeItsJustMike 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. It was a slightly darker black tactile-neck.

[–]pauliogazzio 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Like vandal grease.... Like a nasty tar that fucks up your clothes, will pretty much never come out

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 34 points35 points36 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Man, misandry, racism, and bigotry sure take a toll on your looks. That woman looks like she's in her late 50's or early 60's.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points64 points 7 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

No way! Women are using the legal system to destroy men! How is that even possible?!?! /S

[–]camletoejoe 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"No way! Women are using the legal system to destroy men!"

No, that would never happen. Can not be.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It just couldn't happen in a fair and impartial legal system could it? Thank you for understanding my sarcasm. It seems that it flies over many peeps heads these days.

[+]Hifen -15 points-14 points-13 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

She didn't use the legal system, this was more of her "she called him a predator one time to his face as they were arguing" situation.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Hifen 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Your response was in obvious reply to the story.

Do you not fully understand sarcasm?

Your statement (sarcasm accounted for) is saying "its not surprising a woman used the legal system to destroy a man" despite the fact that's not what happened in this story.

So congratulations on

1) Not reading the article

2) not fully grasping sarcasm

3) Making an unrelated comment

4) We'll throw in not knowing what "splitting hairs" means as well.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Hifen 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ask my self AND congratulate my self? what a whacky sentence lol. I'm reasonably happy, I guess -i guess i'll spend my morning in an existential crisis thanks to your words.

Congratulations you can repeat the definition of sarcasm, that doesn't change the fact that you confused yourself with it. Go back, reread what I said to you, and try to explain to yourself why the fact that you were being sarcastic doesn't matter.

Also try and teach yourself about the context of discussion.

Also, when you are making a statement about something someone did, and my response was they didn't do it. That's not splitting hairs, because it's not a small unimportant difference. It's literally the entire premise of the dicussion.

Congratulations on further elaborating your stupidity.

[–][deleted] 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Hifen 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You said something stupid. It was poorly recieved. That's ok, happens to the best of us. Try not to have tantrum next time and just move one. Good luck, I believe in you.

[–]cup_ofwater 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're the one that seemed pretty angry/annoyed lol

[–]BobbyDropTableUsers 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago* (9 children) | Copy Link

The mother called Mr Oosthuizen a p*** and told told him to 'go back to his own country'

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What's up with everything being censored? I don't even know a 4 letter word starting with 'p' that would need to be censored.

Poon? Puto?

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Edit: Nevermind.. later in the article it says "Paki" and it's not censored. Why the hell does "paki" need to be censored? Yes it's offensive when directed at someone- but just reading it and not having it directed at you is not something that necessitates censorship.

[–]Wsing1974 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe the asterisks don't line up with the actual letters. In that case, "pussy" or "prick" would work. Or maybe it's something racial that they use in England?

[–]biggustdikkus 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Only thing I could think of was Pole as a racial slur for polish people. People down below says Paki though which doesn't really make sense.

[–]Wsing1974 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think he's quoted at one point as saying, "She seems to think I'm from Pakistan".

[–]kratos649 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Putz?

[–]jaesharp 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Well, given that this is in England and its four letters and starts with p, it's probably a slur on people of Pakistani origin (the slur is the demonym shortened to four letters). It's a rather offensive term, which is why it's censored. If you're familiar with US-based racial slurs, it's like calling someone with dark skin the slur beginning with 'n'.

[–]BobbyDropTableUsers 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It's not exactly the same though. It's not a word that was invented by another group or used exclusively as a racial slur.

The PAK in Pakistan is named after Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir. "Stan" is "land of-". So Pakistan means land of the Pakis, and it was coined by Pakistanis.

I know that today it's sometimes used derogatorily, but so is the word "Jew" in certain contexts. The difference seems to be that Jews aren't offended by being called Jews. That's why you'd never see it censored.

I just think this is unnecessary censorship- especially when I didn't get that the guy in the article is Pakistani until the middle of the article. That's bad writing.

[–]StardustOasis -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Might want to read this. Paki has been used as a slur since the 60s, and is considered highly offensive in the UK, although some people have attempted to reclaim it. The majority of Pakistanis would find it as offensive as a black American would find being called the n word.

I see from your post history that you're American, it isn't surprising you're misinformed on this topic, even presidents have had to apologise for using it unwittingly.

[–]BobbyDropTableUsers 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well- I've been to England and I know to use it. But you can't equate it with the word "nigger" that was used, under slavery, to try to diminish an entire ethnicity of people to something less than human.

Anyway- I know I'm not going to prescribe some solution by saying "get over it" but even the wikipedia article you linked showed several examples where a colloquial demonym was accepted by the group, basically taking away its power. My main point is that censoring the word was pointless in the context of the story... especially when they printed it uncensored a few paragraphs later.

In the 21st century, some younger British Pakistanis have attempted to reclaim the word, drawing parallels to the African American reclamation of the slur "nigger", and the LGBT reclamation of the slur "queer". Peterborough businessman Abdul Rahim, who produces merchandise reclaiming the word, equates it to more socially accepted terms such as "Aussie" and "Kiwi", saying that it is more similar to them than it is to "nigger", as it denotes a nationality and not a biological race. However, other Pakistanis see use of the word as unacceptable even among members of their community, due to its historical racist use.

[–]jaesharp -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I'm not going to engage with this. Send a letter to the editor.

[–]you-create-energy 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In case anyone is interested in what actually happened:

Gillian O'Brien, 40, was convicted of harassment after she told Terence Oosthuizen, 42, she would 'slit his children's throats', a court heard.

She also said he was a sex offender at some point in the past. She scared him and his 11-year-old daughter by threatening to slit their throats, so his wife called the police. She was convicted and is awaiting sentencing. Thus is /r/JusticeServed material.

False accusations happen which ruin people's lives, and that is a horrible miscarriage of justice, but this isn't one of those times. Don't let distractions like this headline distort your reality. Focus on situations where injustice actually occurs.

[–]sparetosser2018 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anywhere in the article that she branded him as a sex offender. Listen, I know it happens, and it's horrible, but I didn't see that anywhere in the article.

Edit: I re-read it, it's mentioned once in the article that she called him a sex offender, but it doesn't appear to be the focus of the article.

[–]camletoejoe 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That is what female drug dealers and other female criminals say. He is a sexual rapist or DV abuser whatever. The cops too misinformed to figure out its a ruse.

[–]IchthysdeKilt 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's on the title and subtitle, and his lawyer mentions it. They don't quote exactly what he was accused of, but that's probably for the best.

[–]MGTOWtoday 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

False accusations need to be punished equally to a rape conviction.

[–]Yipsta 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Think this is dressed up as something it's not.

She called him a pedo and said go back to your own country, this is the sort of thing that people with very few brain cells say as a generic insult here in England, the sort of people that live off benefits and blame foreigners for the fact they are unemployable.

I don't see this as the same as a false rape claim.

The scummy bitch should be prosecuted though

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I am sorry, but I couldn't actually locate where she calls him a sex offender. She is convicted of threats

[–]ggihhpy 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s in the article twice. The very first paragraph and repeated later on.

[–]Hifen 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Two neighbours have a history of arguing, she says racist things and called him a sex offender one time. Now it's national news in a tabloid to stir up outrage.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah.. I read the entire thing and it doesn't actually say that.

[–]boastfulkale 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Isn't this evidence of justice? It seems everybody except her realise she's the wrong one...

[–]bluewing 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So reading the article, it seems to be far more a racist bitch issue than false sexual accusations. Though the article does briefly mention her calling Mr Oosthuizen a pedophile near the end of the article. It seems most of the harassment involves telling him to go back home and being a Paki. (which he not). Plus she also threatened violence against the family.

She was convicted of making harassing threats against him and his family. I wonder what her sentience was. I would see bitching about that sweet pussypass, but hey, got to add that spin.

[–]nomeail 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is also worrying from the article -

The UK police and courts are sending another message -

They only react if people allege some kind of racism.

[–]sonicdraco 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

anyone have the article from a website that isn't complete garbage? I have no addon that blocks all dailymail traffic

[–]Sityu91 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's p***? Piss? Punk?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope there is a special place in hell for people that make false claims such as this

[–]PotatoPopsicles 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I definitely agree that people are hammering in the idea that these traits are “admirable” in girls. Every piece of media promotes a “spunky” girl that is “challenging norms” by doing nothing other than being a real bitch. The cartoons my little siblings watch are full of sadistic and condescending female characters that bully everyone around them, with the exception of other girls.

[–]y2kbadbug 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TIL about burglar paint.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Did you seriously use dailymail as your source for this?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Control of the accusers must be found. This is what comes from always believing the accuser

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

BELIEVE WOMEN

/s

[–]MACS5952 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Giving women rights was the worst move in history.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They make false accusations for any petty annoyance. They're like children. But when you try to get any woman like this to actually work for what they want, or to tell them that you should ignore something/someone if you don't like it/them, especially if it's something so small like this, they always end up making the excuse: I'm a woman! Men are all rapists so I can't help it! Or they use this excuse: I'm a hard working mother! I can't go to jail I need to take care of the kids!, even though most women don't want to be mothers, and hate that they have to take that role, and are shit at it, so they force other men to do everything for them.

They all do terrible things that are even worse than what they claim all men do, but get away with it just because they're women, or claim to be mothers when in reality they hate having that responsibility and only love being mothers/wives when it gives them privileges and notoriety, and not when they actually have to work for it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

For people who hate to be stereotyped and generalized, you sure do stereotype and generalize a lot

[–]pandalovexxx 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This is my only problem with posts here in general, I agree on the points made here but when someone applies a negative trait to "most" or "all" people of any group it's hard to get past

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From what I've seen of this sub, the majority of posts seem to be in this same vein of stereotyping and women-hating. Can't say I've seen much here to agree with

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

More like defending men, which is not the same as hating women. You're doing a poor job at conflating the two and everyone else can see what you really are.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well enlighten me then,what am I really?

[–]grocket 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Crixusgannicus 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The question is what are WE going to do about all this? If not for yourself, then for your sons or grandsons...

[–]morebeansplease 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It seems for many women if they do not get their way they make a false sex allegation knowing a man is not protected by the law.

This statement is stupid. Not only does it lack any credible measurements but it propagates stereotypes. How many women.. .001%, .01%, .1%, 1%, 10%? Its a fear mongering statement teaching people to be scared. What is the actual chance of being in a situation like this, I dont know but let's all be scared. Women are just as shitty as men. We dont want men to be stereotyped by the worst, let's not do it to the women.

[–]PixelPete85 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good stuff. The statement in the title does EVERYBODY a disservice, and none more than the people OP claims to represent in this sub.

[–]_skeletontoucher 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

holy shit -- glad i found you. sometimes this sub veers in unsavory directions. it's important to see these instances of false accusation, but to use it as a tool against "many" women... bad news.

[–]TrueGrey 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not rare at all. It's happened to me literally twice with similarly baffling stimuli, and I've seen it twice more among my close friends, alone.

We're pretty average American dexent slightly nerdy guys, chaotic good, with not a #niceguy like, #gaslighter, or #redpill to be seen, yet the crazy found us 4 times.

Men, women, sure they're all shitty, but the problem is how much power women have with so little evidence required for consequences, be they legal or extralegal.

[–]fraszoid 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

All this over wanting the kids guinea pigs to have a nice place to live? I hope she gets the book thrown at her for this one. He was doing nothing wrong other than being a good father and husband for his family.

[–]garrypig 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I find it hard to read this stuff bc I will get mad and start hating on my gf and probably turn gay

[–]Aegidius25 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women using sex as a weapon, disgusting. I've also been mulling over an idea. Why do women get to make money off their beauty as models, actresses etc. All that does is give them an inflated sense of self worth, a certain degree of economic power and makes them think they're too good for any guy who's not rich and a ken-doll cut out. I say if you see any product or anything like that promoted by beautiful women who are getting paid for it purposefully avoid it and maybe purchase their competitors product. To show these women they can't make money off of suckering men into buying useless crap and to hurt the companies engaging in such manipulation. In short women can still be attractive of course, they just shouldn't be able to use that to gain economic wealth or social prestige outside of mating.

[–]pandalovexxx 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

outside of mating.

Oof

[–]ThrowawayGhostGuy1 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

tHe ReAl ViCtImS aRe OtHeR wOmEn WhO wOnT rEpOrT nOw!

[–]tb21666 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They need to make false rape claims an offense punishable by Death Sentence; that'll cut all the 💩 real quick.

Found innocent of mine in '95, it's not a new thing at all & happens most frequently because there's no severe consequence for doing so.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This shit mostly happens in the US imo with all the pathetic SJWs and their bs eating into the very fabric of American society.

[–]Kibix -4 points-3 points-2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This comment section is pathetic. A bunch of butt hurt and misogynistic men grasping at every story, looking for a reason to reinforce their world view that women have it better than them. The same boys that cringily complained about how women don’t hold the door open for men. This is the red pill sub reformed.

[+]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI -21 points-20 points-19 points 7 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Really? This is what we’re upvoting? A POS woman said a load of offensive things to a man, big fuckin’ wow. No official claims were made by her that he did anything so this isn’t a “false” claim. Stop making the rest of us look bad by upvoting such nonsense articles.

This is no different than a feminist posting articles where a man says to a woman he’s going to rape her but never actually does and then using it as evidence that men rape more than we think.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Hello there, normal member of the community.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI -5 points-4 points-3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude I said the same kinda shit in the Feminist subreddit and got banned. Let’s not act like there aren’t genuine Misandrists/Misogynists in both that subreddit and this one, blindly agreeing with everything everyone posts on here makes you no better than a radfem.

[–]Wsing1974 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

After reading the article, I have to agree with you. The headline is misleading. This is just a case of two neighbors having a dispute, and one of them happens to be bat-shit crazy.

She never filed any police report or pushed for any legal action. I do find it telling that she felt the best way to hurt him was to damage his reputation by labeling him a sex offender. But since nothing official was done, this is really a non-issue for this case.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine having her as a neighbour, Jesus Christ I would lose my shit.

[–]Hobadee 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. Not sure why parent is being downvoting; apparently nobody reads the articles...

[–]Historybuffman 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

"No official claims"

This is the major disconnect that people refuse to see. People like to minimize "official" false reports as much as possible. They presume all proven AND unproven (guilty verdicts and cases dropped before trial) "true", and only observably "false" (not guilty verdicts) as false.

They refuse to engage on the issue of unofficial accusations that enable "social justice" (modern-day lynch mobs) actions against the accused, whether they are guilty or not.

A man that is accused, even if it is not an official complaint to police, can be fired and blacklisted from an industry.

So, you are right. She did not make an official complaint. However, she was sure as hell hoping that bad stuff would happen to him by carelessly throwing out extremely damaging accusations.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Between her and him? I’m sorry but no, everything you just said is shit. If she gave a shit about what she said she’d have brought that up when he took her to court. She is just a horrendously nasty woman who was saying anything to piss him off.

Edit: sorry for speaking so rudely to you, you seem like a nice person

[–]Historybuffman 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's fine, tone is hard to convey via text.

My point that I am trying to make is that this woman made a false accusation. Now yes, you and I agree that it is of little consequence in this case (luckily!). Most reasonable people would agree, I think.

However, this is evidence counter to the common feminist stances of BelieveAllWomen, and that women do not make false claims (or the percentage is so small we should not be worried).

But you and I can see how this shitty person (gender aside) was quick to jump to try and call him a sex offender.

By trying to get people to believe women specifically, feminism will enable shitty people like this woman. And people will not punish false accusers because no one wants to prevent real victims from coming forward.

So, we have to counter this feminist view that women are to be believed simply due to their gender. Each claim should be listened to and evaluated on it's own merit.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do fully understand what you're saying but I still don't believe that situation falls under a false claim. Say she did it in public then it's a different case and I'd be saying what you are, but as she only directly said it to him and never followed up on it then I don't count it.

I think feminists would see this and even they wouldn't like the woman. They would say she's clearly a hateful POS. I don't even think this article is man vs woman. It's something that belongs on neighbours from hell, or whatever that show was called.

[–]pandalovexxx 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I fully agree, feminists, at least the ones I know would find this woman to be trash and rightfully deserving of punishment. I am also inclined to agree this isnt a man v woman issue. It's a shitty neighbor being horrendously toxic.

[–]TheDongerNeedsFood 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

You're not too bright are you?

[–]Hifen 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He's right though, this is just a story of one neighbor yelling at another. SHE was the one charged, and at no point was he, or even officially accused. This is a tabloid story about two neighbors not getting along.

[–]junkeee999 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Further, OP uses this story to claim 'many women' do this. Despite the article only referring to one case and not citing any statistics at all.

It's posts like this that make people not take this subreddit seriously.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You basically summed up why these kinda posts getting upvoted pisses me off. Makes us all look like twats to go on the MRA subreddit and ooh, front page post, they’re mad about a woman talking shit over her fence to a man.

[–]IAmDefinitelyNotFBI -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Said by the sun himself, no doubt.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Imagine being this dense

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women just think they can use an absence of a dick to just accuse men of sexual abuse, rape or harassment, when things don’t go their way. These women, we really don’t need or want in society. Honestly, I’m fed up of these idiots.

[–]rahsoft -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"She was convicted of racial aggravated harassment and threatening behaviour after a trial at Stockport magistrates court. "

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i find it interesting that she was convicted of what is effectively racism, when the law has always exempted racism agsint the majority white( and looking at his picture one can assume he is white)..

or maybe the court thought they could do it because the perp was white..

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Gillian O'Brien

I'm guessing she's a feminist and no doubt we will have the angry womens right brigade screaming about this as oppression because he's a straight white male....

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willing to bet her sentence will be suspended or community service( if she were a white man and hey we dont assume gender here lol, "she" would be doing prison time)

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[–]pandalovexxx 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure she called him a "paki" at least that's what the article stated at one point.

[–]xNOM -3 points-2 points-1 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It seems for many women if they do not get their way they make a false sex allegation knowing a man is not protected by the law.

I don't follow you at all here. If women thought men were protected by the law they'd make MORE false allegations, not fewer.

These women make the false allegations because:

  1. they know they will never be prosecuted for it

  2. they are childish and have no concept of how it will ruin things for people who actually need to make legitimate allegations. The mentality strikes me as similar to those who won't let their children be vaccinated.

[+][deleted] -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

And now from Incel Corner.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Calling men that speak out against shit that no one else does incels proves nothing. GTFO fucking asshole.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But you are though

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

By your logic, women that speak out against sexual harassment/assault are complaining.

[–]engarde6478 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You have some issues

[–]pandalovexxx 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think it's fair to call them incels. But there are some people doing exactly what they hate feminists for doing. If this was an article about rape, accusing a man that insinuated "most men.." they'd be up in arms but it's perfectly fine to paint "most women.." as making false sexual harassment allegations. Not including the people here who have pointed out the same thing of course.

[+]WeAllNeedToDie -10 points-9 points-8 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Be fucking hilarious if she got raped one day and then nobody helped her cause of this hahaha

[–]Majo0406 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Christ man.. too soon

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