They say that single women tend to be happier than single men. It shows that the problem is men don't learn how to be happy

SeveralLiterature980 · 2023-11-29T19:44:42+00:00

Peak nonsense in this OP.

Culture is set up to support women in innumerable ways; if a woman wants companionship even if just temporary, she can easily get it; social support, easily received; sympathy and empathy for her concerns and complaints, freely given.

Men receive none of these perks.

People love to toss out 'go to therapy' as if therapy is some catchall solution beyond "trick yourself into believing your life doesn't suck."

If it were as simple as "men need women so much haha!" then you wouldn't have so many men with spouses who also decide to off themselves.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2023-11-29T19:34:35+00:00

I believe a lot of the unhappy incel problems is on the self.

Of course you do, otherwise we won't live in a fair world.

There exist more happy single women than happy single men.

Can you prove it?

Its on them to go to therapy,

The whole therapy was made, researched and built upone female psyche, therapy do not work on men.

Mauf066 · 2023-11-29T20:42:54+00:00

Are they really choosing to make their happiness dependent on having a woman? To me it seems much more likely that it's a natural biological drive in combination with societal incentives.

l00ks-p1lled · 2023-11-29T18:43:23+00:00

What if we are biologically programmed to feel bad without sexual intimacy?

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-11-29T19:27:16+00:00

Men don't get fail safes like women do. This isn't due to "women just being happier than men" it's due to systems in place to make sure women succeed even without a partner, and men don't get these.

PrecisionHat · 2023-11-29T19:07:56+00:00

I think, if we just talk about emotional health issues, you are partially right, but, as other users have pointed out, the societal expectation for men to be sexually successful has an impact. Once you consider sexual satisfaction, well, women don't really know what it means to be truly sexualky frustrated, imo, since casual sex is something they can pretty much get on demand, if they choose to.

IllustriousDinner130 · 2023-11-30T00:27:14+00:00

Probably worth mentioning that since it’s easier to get sex and a relationship as a women, women would naturally have an easier time understanding they won’t fix all your problems. Most women are experienced with these things, and obviously it didn’t solve all their problems.

Sexually and romantically unsuccessful men don’t know this cause to us, these things seem so out of reach and foreign, that we fall into the trap thinking they will fix us. I only just lost my virginity and have never had a real girlfriend, so the whole concept of a relationship with lots of sex often appeared to me as the end all be all. I’m sure it’s even worse for those guys that have had even less success than me.

Unsuccessful men think sex and relationships will fix them because they lack experience with them. The vast majority of women don’t struggle at least getting relationships and sex, so it matters less to their happiness.

ToptalYaVashReddit · 2023-11-29T20:58:07+00:00

Or maybe men's happiness depends on having a partner more than that of women?

God_of_a_wasteland · 2023-11-30T01:03:20+00:00

Single women are happier than single men because the experience of being single is much more enjoyable for most women than for most men

WilliamWyattD · 2023-11-30T06:47:47+00:00

It's also possible that the way the genders work, men need the socialization of having an intimate relationship and eventually family more than women do to find meaning, purpose and thus true happiness. This does not mean that women don't also benefit and ultimately need the same, just perhaps not as much.

But what is wrong with that? Why do the genders have to be the same? Why would undoing this asymmetry be somehow more beneficial to society than trying hard to make the genders as attractive to one another as possible, and thereby maintaining a high pairing rate with quality relationships?

I always feel there is some unsaid prior to these types of posts, which is something along the lines of women being too innately selective for us to ever expect high pairing rates like in the past now that women have been given economic and social equality. It always seems to be suggesting that average men should expect a continuing decline in their ability to land a woman, so they should start preparing for it.

Safinated · 2023-11-30T07:52:13+00:00

Or, they need sex to be happy

hopeidontforget2021 · 2023-11-29T19:37:35+00:00

Eh 25%+ of young women are on SSRIs, I'm sure if men did the same they would report more 'happiness'.

ladyindev · 2023-11-29T19:22:13+00:00

Yup and women have closer friendship and family bonds, in terms of the things they discuss and share. Part of this is because of sexism/patriarchy and the way men are conditioned to bottle things up, not be vulnerable or weak because it makes them pussies, etc. They're not conditioned to be emotionally mature or seek that connection and vulnerability outside of romantic love, which isn't healthy.

It may also be a natural disadvantage partly, but I don't think we know this yet. Researchers already confirm that boys are behind young girls in terms of some aspects of psychological development, which is one reason they have a harder time in school and are falling behind now at the higher education levels. But I think the socialization is a huge part of it and exacerbates their struggle to be happy alone.

Unfortunately, this also puts them and their future partners at risk for relationship issues that could be avoided if they did the work. But some men do!

Also, it's fair to mention that women, on average, have a lot more access to sex even though men have typically had more sexual partners on average. Being in a relationship gives men access to the kind of sexual frequency and validation that is challenging to achieve outside of a relationship. But it is also true that they get a lot of emotional benefits from being in relationships - even research shows that married men do better with mental health and happiness compared to men who have never been married, while single women have better outcomes on those metrics than married women.

BobtheAxieManager · 2023-11-29T20:11:22+00:00

There is no real evidence of single women being happier than single men.

Pitiful_Many3583 · 2023-11-29T19:32:59+00:00

Part of the patriarchal mindset was to teach men that female nature was divine and that it could be spiritually healing - that a women’s love was something that completed a man’s life and soul. These attitudes were greatly prevalent when religion was the dominant cultural and even though that dominance has dwindled, the core of that belief is still a “faith” in men, carried on via art, music, literature.

Feminism has pulled most women out of the patriarchal system and way of thinking because the way they were suppressed was upfront and obvious to the eye.

The male suppression is much more subtle and insidious and the way our culture is heading, it’s doubtful that a male movement towards ending patriarchal brainwashing for men can be ever be formed.

Men are just gonna have to learn it for themselves

Wattehfok · 2023-11-29T20:09:44+00:00

Knowing what I know about men’s mental health, I reckon it’s entirely down to lack of social connection.

A lot of guys are bad at building and maintaining social networks. On the whole, they’re lonelier than women.

The single gals tend to have more, and closer friendships.

No-Rough-7390 · 2023-11-30T22:38:53+00:00

I have trouble trusting self reported data from women. What woman, especially one getting older, is going to betray their ego and say they fucked up? It’s a rare find.

Secondly, men who are this way are for two reasons. One is they are psyoped to believe that a woman is a necessary component for a happy life. Aka oneitis. The second brand are similar but they are on the other end of getting absolutely destroyed in divorce/break up and believe they lost their one.

Most men that learned their lesson figure out a post-divorce life (after the pain of the justice system) is far more peaceful and happy. Is it that they picked the wrong women? Maybe, not sure.

wtknight · 2023-11-29T18:41:38+00:00

Because men put their happiness in finding a girlfriend. Its on them to go to therapy, find a hobby they like etc .

Men aren’t usually satisfied just masturbating when they know that sex feels so much better with another person.

LillthOfBabylon · 2023-11-29T18:47:53+00:00

Obviously sometimes mental health is hard to fix

They don't want to fix their mental health at all. They want a woman to swoop in and be the free therapist.

Even when given advice from people in happy relationships, excuses come out.

bottleblank · 2023-11-30T00:21:18+00:00

Yes, let's just pretend that humans don't exist to be social and, ultimately, fuck. That's sure to end well.

Different-Virus-7474 · 2023-11-30T01:28:18+00:00

Once they get closer to 30 it's not much fun being single for women. Men handle being single as they age better. Being single in your early 20s sucks for a man because you're full of testosterone.

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NotARussianBot1984 · 2023-11-29T22:09:37+00:00

I heard Chad is happiest of all. Happiness inequality is crazy, someone get Elizabeth Warren to fix Big Happy!

Expensive-Tea455 · 2023-12-01T19:16:07+00:00

A lot of men think a vagina is going to cure their depression and loneliness lol

apresonly · 2023-12-01T20:36:34+00:00

men are def not taught to make themselves happy.

Men are taught growing up (socialization) that anything that's not utilitarian is frivolous and feminine (bad) and it negatively effects men's quality of life and health.

Title	They say that single women tend to be happier than single men. It shows that the problem is men don't learn how to be happy
Author	Logical_Round_5935
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Date	November 29, 2023 1:42 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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