Why is it that when a woman supports men’s rights she instantly becomes a “pick me”?

Majorllama66 · 2024-10-14T18:48:44+00:00

Women are capable of far more hostility than I think society generally thinks of them. Men are far more likely to maintain friendship with someone they disagree with than women from my experience.

Feminism is at the front of the public eye so any women who speaks up for men is immediately assumed to only be doing that because they want attention which is insanely insulting when you think about it.

There are of course pick me women who are just doing things because it gets them attention but most of the women who support mens rights thankfully don't appear to be in that camp.

63daddy · 2024-10-14T18:36:40+00:00

I think most people can understand that women can support equal rights including non discrimination against men. I’m white, but I don’t support discrimination against other races: same thing.

However, feminist organizations have fought hard to win policies that advantage women and discriminate against men so many feminists will view anyone who disagrees with such discrimination as a traitor to the cause.

2024-10-14T18:38:58+00:00

Pettiness, basically.

If you’re not part of the group, you’re against it and an enemy.

MannerNo7000 · 2024-10-14T19:20:03+00:00

And when a man supports feminism he’s a good guy and if he doesn’t he’s a misogynist.

heyitsagoodusername · 2024-10-14T18:32:10+00:00

in my experience usually woman are not very friendly with those who don't support their specific views.

Magical-Hummus · 2024-10-14T19:00:54+00:00

Cause nobody "picks" a feminist, which are those who use that term. Feminism is a hivemind that reacts vicious to anyone outside it.

Salamadierha · 2024-10-14T19:28:50+00:00

Because to feminists, the righteousness of feminism is obvious and unassailable. A woman couldn't possibly think there was anything wrong with it. So there must be a different reason, and being a slut is the obvious one to them. So "pick me".
It doesn't say much for how feminists see women though.

2024-10-14T19:04:56+00:00

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CompetitiveOffer5339 · 2024-10-14T20:57:03+00:00

I’ve noticed that too, multiple people, even on here, have told me I’m a pick me girl for supporting men’s rights.

mhk23 · 2024-10-14T18:39:55+00:00

Sisterhood uberalis and intra-gender psychological warfare

Weird-Pudding-9049 · 2024-10-14T19:43:17+00:00

Well, people are divided into groups socially, politically, culturally etc. when it comes to women, the ones who specifically do this are using it as a shaming tactic. It's the same reason why if a man rejects a woman she automatically says "are you homosexual" or if a man has boundaries goes "he's controlling and insecure". These women that do this are just parroting the sentiments they think will get others to conform to what they want them to do.

Women tend to resort to tactics, passive aggression and cold war type moves to get what they want. Us men tend to resort to aggression. In relationships we call this "playing games" which us men hate because we're logical and straight forward more often. These women that call other women "pick me" simply don't like women supporting men. Women are also more hive minded than men are, doesn't mean men aren't, it's just more so with women socially. If 1 woman in a group has an idea and says it first, others tend to follow that whether they believe it or not just to keep the peace. So you'll have women come online and say you're a "pick me" yet they're married or have bf's too, picked, and bashing men still. Why? they just want to be down with the "woman" crusade but they going home to their man everyday anyway.

Then there's those who benefit from the parroting, sort of like Beyoncé singing all my single ladies and who run the world "girls" to hype women up and talking of independence yet she's married with kids and staying with an adulterer anyway, female politicians and activist and content creators do this as well. Panderer's too, for money, votes, recognition, doesn't matter.

jcruz18 · 2024-10-14T19:50:42+00:00

Because feminism teaches its followers to gaslight anyone who questions their indoctrination.

black_orchid83 · 2024-10-14T21:16:25+00:00

As a woman, I think it's because they're mad at those of us who choose not to participate in their toxic feminism. They think all men are the enemy because a few have hurt them. They don't seem to understand that their attitude is the problem. They're their own worst enemy.

Former_Range_1730 · 2024-10-14T18:55:58+00:00

I know a great deal about this. Perhaps too much.

A politically correct way to say this is: This is a sexuality thing. One sexuality group bashes the other as Pick me's, and never the other way around. Which really means, the word "Pick Me" is a derogatory term used by one sexuality of women, against the other. And the women who tend to get bashed by this term, tend to be a sexuality that supports men's rights the most.

When you spend enough time looking at specifically who is calling who a Pick me, you start to notice the clear pattern.

People claim it's a word used against women who treat women badly in order to gain male approval, but that's not really what's going on.

HipsterNgariman · 2024-10-14T22:36:50+00:00

Could be jealousy. When the femcels call you a pick-me because you're agreeable and actually nice with men, you've won.

UWontHearMeAnyway · 2024-10-14T20:16:54+00:00

For the exact reason that women "attack" men for disagreeing with them.

Shame, insult, guilt, blame. It's all manipulation tactics. When they can't convince through normal arguments, they resort to manipulation tactics. If not to convince again, then to avoid accountability.

SleepLivid988 · 2024-10-15T02:13:16+00:00

It’s the “mean girl” mentality. Lots of women grown up around the “mean girls” so they think that’s how they need to act. It’s how you become part of the club. Any girls/women who go against the grain are shunned.

Source: I’m a woman.

Tiny_Professional358 · 2024-10-15T06:42:34+00:00

Because those woman go against the narrative that men are bad and all women are good.

BookwormNinja · 2024-10-14T20:23:11+00:00

I've always wondered this. I have too many issues to consider a relationship anytime soon, but justice is a core value of mine and it makes me angry to see anyone mistreated. And men's rights is a huge problem that's being overlooked, so it's a cause that means a lot to me. I want guys to know that they're not alone in this battle.

JACSliver · 2024-10-14T19:34:15+00:00

Because the ones who use such a cheap label do not care about the truth, they just want someone to be mad at.

SidewaysGiraffe · 2024-10-14T20:56:16+00:00

Because it's a threat to the perpetual "woman equals victim equals woman" narrative, so it has to be cut down- not by actual argument, since reason doesn't support it (and because "only women have problems" is an absurdly sexist idea on its face), but by insulting the women who say it.

It's also implying that the only reason a woman could support something is for the sake of social approval; but sexism against women is fine when they're your opponents, I guess.

Kir141 · 2024-10-15T04:42:34+00:00

Because those women will never admit that they envy the one who gets absolutely deserved attention, and not attention based on appearance and provocative behavior.

DecisionPlastic9740 · 2024-10-15T07:41:06+00:00

They want to keep her in line

CryHavoc3000 · 2024-10-15T08:44:52+00:00

Because the country is being subverted by Man-Haters.

No_Reaction_2168 · 2024-10-14T19:35:35+00:00

Because contrary to popular belief, most women would actually want all women to be a monolith.

Life_Grade1900 · 2024-10-14T19:29:44+00:00

Because women are crabs in a bucket

Ambitious-Reach-1186 · 2024-10-15T00:16:52+00:00

I think because so many women (especially these days) have such a severely negative view of men that anything that they hear otherwise from other women comes off as desperation.

LongDongSamspon · 2024-10-15T02:59:23+00:00

It’s a shaming tactic - typical of all humans but especially prevalent in female dominated circles. It’s the equivalent of calling someone a “(race slur) lover”. The idea is to smear the person as liking something bad, so they will either be ostracised or change what they’re saying.

BrilliantFirst8879 · 2024-10-15T10:48:51+00:00

It's feminism backfiring at women only. Stupid people judge without putting much thought into it.

Mostly, I have seen this in women who have extreme hate for men likely to play women card, false accusations and cry for equality. While in reality, women are already privileged. Sisters support their brothers, friends support fellow friends without expecting attention.

I feel extremely sad for men seriously. It's horrible for them, and they don't even speak anything.

Make-TFT-Fun-Again · 2024-10-15T12:34:09+00:00

Women have strong in group bias. When an equal argument between a woman and a man arises her first instinct is to ask: “what did he do to make her this upset?”

Thus being neutral is already a slight - and arguing for the side of a man is tantamount to treason.

AbysmalDescent · 2024-10-17T17:06:21+00:00

male pick me's: "men are all scum and rapists"

female pick me's: "men deserve to be treated fairly and with dignity"

It's kind of wild the difference between the two, or level of hate that women will get for even showing the most basic level of empathy or decency for men. It doesn't even make sense as an insult. Like, sure, it often indicates that people are forgoing their own sense of self to please the other gender but, at the end of the day, people want to get picked. When you get a really good job, it's because you got picked over others due to your qualifications. It doesn't necessarily indicate that you are desperate or would sell your soul to get that job, but it can indicate that you were a good person for the job.

dirtyhippie62 · 2024-10-14T22:43:10+00:00

I’m a woman who supports men’s rights and I’ve never been called a pick me. If I were ever to be called a pick me it wouldn’t change my views.

Godskook · 2024-10-14T20:50:28+00:00

Because the vast majority of slurs used by...literally anyone are whatever options look like they'd be insulting to the target. Being realistic is secondary. Nobody cares about making a cogent argument. That's why they're hurling insults, anyway. Insults are not cogent arguments.

Which is why the N-word is such an evergreen slur. Everyone knows that it WILL be insulting. So the part of everyone's brain that understands human behavior but not racism has it prepped. (See every democrat that calls a black republican an uncle tom to see what I mean.)

Fearless_Ad4244 · 2024-10-15T00:02:50+00:00

That question is more appropriate to be asked to feminist women and men, but if you want a short answer it basically is misandrism.

Diligent-Physics189 · 2024-10-15T03:39:21+00:00

What is their incentive?

pargofan · 2024-10-15T03:57:32+00:00

It's the same reason that pro-life women are described as suffering from "internalized patriarchy."

Fearless-File-3625 · 2024-10-15T09:47:18+00:00

I have never seen a woman who unilaterally support men's rights even if she gains nothing from it.

KhadgarIsaDreadlord · 2024-10-15T16:53:58+00:00

To be fair male feminists are also ridiculed as simps.

It's something along the lines of " why would you vocally support a cause that doesn't benefit you on a foundamental level and oftentimes works for the detriment of a group you belong into"

The logical conclusion to that is that the benefit they gain doesn't lie with the values of said cause but with the approval of the followers of the cause. Very common behavior among groups that center around a shared ideology.

I'm pretty sure most authentic male feminists are the silent majority that believe in equal oportunity regardless of what genetalia the individual is born with.

And this works here aswell. I'm pretty sure there are some girls in men's rights groups that don' really believe or care for men's rights but enjoy the male approval. Not all of them but some of them. I'd argue probably less than in the case of male feminists becouse those types of people typically drift wherever pop culture blows.

-MetalSonic- · 2024-10-15T21:51:02+00:00

Feminist women want everyone else to be misandrists like them and they can’t stand it when someone the same gender as them doesn’t resort to misandry.

2024-10-16T02:30:58+00:00

Left = You have to support Feminists (Read terrorists) Right = You are a misogynistic pig. 🥹

*I see Reddit is mostly left unfortunately.

skllyskullstyle · 2024-10-16T04:00:56+00:00

It's the same behavior for people with cult like mentality. It's modern gynocentrism's way for gaslighting.

That's evidence for that women are not even aloud to show or spare a few moments for decency for men. That's a sign of how pressed and disadvantaged we are.

Hannah from the honey badgers radio said something like how girls are taught to not work for something while boys are taught to fight for anything all the time.

It's another example.

Basically, these grown but selfish women are like, "join me, or else".

2024-10-16T10:53:03+00:00

Because for women it’s more collective. If you’re not with the group you’re against the group.

KingpinPenguin97 · 2024-10-16T18:55:10+00:00

That is a very interesting question. The subject matter is based on "collective perspective". This is akin to an echo chamber where a group of individuals, who identify themselves as members of a group, have the ideology that they share the same perspective as the group. This refers to attitudes, beliefs, media, etc. In modern feminism, the biggest focal point of the movement is anti-men rhetoric. So much so that such rhetoric is now described as the root of the movement, much less actual women's rights.

As the movement consists of those with the shared (collective) perspective on society, the women who do not share this collective ideology, in its entirety, are considered against the ideology and are thus not considered to be a part of the movement.

The odd part here is that despite not aligning with any particular side on the matter, these women are instead considered to be against the feminist movement and this is a common problem with modern day activism. It's like a hive-mind mentality if you will. If any units act independently, they are expunged from the hive. They are not considered one and the same, unless they are "one and the same with the hive".

You are not allowed to think independently of feminism if you are a woman, unless you are to be considered against the movement. There is no independence for women in regards to this movement. You either agree with EVERYTHING the movement is, or you are against the movement. There is no in-between. The same goes for mostly every movement.

That is the long answer.

The short answer is simple. Your opinions are invalid the moment you become a "pick-me". It is easier to disregard you if you are labeled as someone who would "obviously" support men in any way, shape, or form. Why would anyone approach you with logical arguments and an actual conversation when they can just label you and automatically make your opinion, and purpose in establishing communication about the topic, meaningless to them and those that agree with their ideology? People hate being wrong. Thus any idea that goes against their own is automatically seen as wrong. That's why this is common.

ducktopian · 2024-10-26T04:25:55+00:00

Should've asked this is a feminst group

Fffgfggfffffff · 2025-02-06T16:46:32+00:00

No, you support what you support.

State your reason and do what you think will help .

As for what others say, whatever, just stick with people who understand you.

Lendari · 2024-10-15T12:02:45+00:00

A huge number of women who support MRA are doing it for money (views, likes and subscribes) or to virtue signal how wonderful they are (self-promotion) or just to feed their ego (attention whore).

The only other explanation is that they genuinely care about men's welfare. This is so unlikely people just reject it. Hence the observation of the OP.

Emotional-Custard473 · 2024-10-15T02:48:04+00:00

( This is. Off topic but I just. Wanted to say this for a long time ). There is a girl in my School and she is a “ weird” pick me girl, I don’t know if she hates me or not. Girls in my school are really confusing and I ask other men. To help me. Out .EXAMPLE she closes my Chromebook while studying , or another example , she makes fun of me for no reason ( again this is not that serious and I am really confused with this girl. And how she acts. If you can explain please do thank you and good day or goodnight .

candidly1 · 2024-10-15T05:20:19+00:00

OK; I gotta ask. What's a "pick me"?

Best_Yard_1033 · 2024-10-15T09:24:08+00:00

I think it's the same reason why if I (a 16 year old male) decide to defend a woman in an argument who people dislike I'm immediately called a "simp" or "white knight" because clearly I'm only doing this for sex right? It's really just stupid people being stupid if we're being honest

Plenty-Treacle-2685 · 2024-10-14T21:46:42+00:00

same reason why men who support womens rights are considered feminine and desperate. our social constructs make it to where we’re not allowed to support things we aren’t apart of. and if you do you’re less of a “man” or “pick me”

kuzism · 2024-10-15T09:37:57+00:00

Because men like to be supported and she will get picked first.

Fearless-File-3625 · 2024-10-14T22:51:28+00:00

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Title	Why is it that when a woman supports men’s rights she instantly becomes a “pick me”?
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Date	October 14, 2024 6:23 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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