Unacceptable. Simplifying a post from a few days ago

AnnArchist · 2013-01-30T20:46:21+00:00

Its more powerful If you use the same guy for both pics

DerpaNerb · 2013-01-30T19:43:21+00:00

The crazy part though, is that a guy is far less likely to be a racist, than a black guy is likely to be a criminal.

Not that this makes either picture okay in the slightest, but they are on totally different magnitudes.

Ceteris__Paribus · 2013-01-30T18:51:02+00:00

Link to related post?

deciple87 · 2013-01-30T20:06:25+00:00

Why did OP use an image of Malik Yoba for the top quote?

timetogo134 · 2013-01-30T22:26:28+00:00

Oh, nonononono... don't get mixed up now! White girls who were assaulted by black men can be extra super cautious around black men. When a white guy who was assaulted by a black man is cautious around them it's racism (and rightfully so), but a white girl? Just good goddamn sense!

We have to look at the person making the claims. If it's a woman, no matter their color, they will almost certainly make every exception possible for themselves. Thus white women are allowed to be racist if they really want to...

420ish · 2013-01-30T22:39:57+00:00

I don't get it.

x30Jx · 2013-01-31T00:36:35+00:00

And cue the ~~SRSters~~ people crying out that /r/mensrights once again wants racism to be acceptable.

pretzelzetzel · 2013-01-31T00:51:39+00:00

In terms of national statistics, it's actually not true that a criminal is most likely to be black, whereas a rapist is most likely to be a man. That still doesn't make it fair to assume that all men are rapists, of course, but this analogy doesn't hold water. The majority of all criminals are not black; the majority of all rapists are men.

KikiIggy · 2013-01-31T04:22:03+00:00

I'll agree that the top post is unacceptable. But to be fair, if a girl who is knowingly unable to defend herself if someone were to attack/assault her is in a desolate kind of area, where there would be few people to intervene, she has to be cautious with everyone. Including but not limited to rich, white guys. You're taking it too personally. She would act differently if there were more people around. Although I do understand your frustration.

Derpybro · 2013-01-31T01:49:58+00:00

The text could be exactly the same.

DrunkRawk · 2013-01-31T02:42:52+00:00

Am I the only white dude on the planet who never gets the impression that women think I want to rape them?

SabineLavine · 2013-01-31T07:10:35+00:00

Recently, I've been sort of amazed by the number of comments from women who seem to live in fear of being raped, assaulted, or otherwise degraded by random men. There's a thread in AskWomen about whether or not it's easy for women to get laid, and even though I'm familiar with the extreme bitterness of Reddit, the responses still kind of floored me. It seems they've only ever had bad experiences with hooking up, and are filled with anxiety at the thought of rape, pregnancy, std's, and bad sex.

I certainly get that there are risks involved in such things, but I had many years of fun and sowing wild oats where I felt the calculated risk was worth the reward. And it makes me a bit sad to think of women being too afraid to have that kind of fun.

Eh, sorry, this probably isn't the place for this, but it's done now. :-)

theskepticalidealist · 2013-01-31T17:44:00+00:00

Its funny because statistically its true. More black people are convicts, but we never see it as acceptable to say that black people should be targets of assumption of being criminals. Feminists are massive hypocrites.

2013-01-30T21:09:45+00:00

What post is this from?

CockTrumpet · 2013-01-31T02:26:35+00:00

I don't get it. Someone please explain?

Mr5306 · 2013-01-31T03:49:24+00:00

I just hope no one gets the idea that this image is defending the first example. For the contrary, its just showing how wrong it really is.

kittimiyo · 2013-01-31T10:19:59+00:00

I would like to say a bit about this. Not as a defense to the post, but as a... bit of expansion? I don't think guys should feel obligated to act differently towards women. At the same time, I will feel that sense of discomfort being near guys I don't know. It's not related to race, mostly size - if a guy is taller, or if I don't feel I would "win" against them in a fight, then I feel uncomfortable. I don't think "men are bad", I know they're not. I just have a fear that I hate having, and try my hardest to fight off. Most of the time there isn't any problem, when I'm with my friends (guys or girls) or in a group. But when I'm walking down the street, and a guy is coming the other way, against all my efforts I panic a little. Though I try not to show it, because I know this is just some dude walking down the street. But it gets hard to act normally because suddenly I forget regular social interaction and I can't remember when it's appropriate to make eye contact, or if it even is appropriate, and how long I should maintain eye contact if made, and should I smile? What if he tries to talk to me? What if he sees me staring at him?!

These are thoughts I fight against as hard as I can, but I'm sure they still show up in my demeanor a bit. Sorry about that.

TacticusThrowaway · 2013-01-31T16:22:04+00:00

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%E2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%E2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest-blogger-starling-schrodinger%e2%80%99s-rapist-or-a-guy%e2%80%99s-guide-to-approaching-strange-women-without-being-maced/#comment-113591

You'll note that the blogger never directly said it would be wrong to think of a black man as Schordinger's Mugger. She just implied it would be racist. She also never actually addressed whether a random black man would statistically be more likely to be a mugger than a random white man. (The answer is yes, unfortunately, if you're going per-capita.)

She also assumed the person asking her the question was white. Though the blog didn't have personal photos on the comments at the time, snarkysmachine is black, or at least biracial.

Xc2U · 2013-01-30T23:26:35+00:00

I hope this is speaking out against sexism against men, and not supporting racism towards blacks.

GoToHellFeminists · 2013-01-31T01:19:24+00:00

The fact that feminism is so popular really shows how well rooted misandry is in our culture.

thro_way · 2013-01-31T05:01:01+00:00

It's a shame the OP worded their first sentence the way he/she did, because it threw a niggle into an otherwise salient point. As far as I know, no, black men will not statistically be criminals (and men rapists). They are, however, statistically more likely to be criminals (and rapists) than their non-black and non-male counterparts, and it's these statistics that are used to justify racism and the fear of men.

Bodertz · 2013-01-30T18:51:34+00:00

When it says 'you', it makes it seem like they are talking about the reader. I don't know how to fix that. Maybe adding a title would help.

Title	Unacceptable. Simplifying a post from a few days ago
Author	cogie
Upvotes	769
Comments	101
Date	January 30, 2013 6:02 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/17kmnu/unacceptable-simplifying-a-post-from-a-few-days-/
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