My LTR is a whore

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TLDR; Find out supposedly conservative GF I'm dating seriously, is a raging whore with no respect for herself. One night stands, new guys every week and all the filthy shit I thought was somewhat specific to her and me (maybe a few other guys at most) has been a stage show for anything sober enough to construct a sentence in her direction.

How to proceed? I still love her but I feel sickened by her past.

Recently I came down with symptoms of Chlamydia and went down for an std screening. It came back universally negative so the doctor told me I might have something called Ureaplasma, which is a usually non harmful microbe that is likewise passed sexually. The chances of getting this shit go up astronomically with more sexually active people as you can imagine, but because I hadn't been formally tested for it, just prescribed a treatment (it isn't part of a normal std screening), I became curious. I immediately started my cycle of antibiotics and realised that because my gf has to have a cycle too and won't have time to get to the doctors for at least a few days, she could potentially reinfect me while she still carry's the bug and I'm on the drugs. So this made me think (rationally I thought), if I can get a rough estimate of how many partners each of us has had (expecting it to be low) I could make a judgement on whether to worry or not about being reinfected with a bug I may or may not have. The meds I was given would kill the infection no matter what it was, but this lazy curiosity got the better of me.

I asked my gf how many guys she had been with. The rest of the conversation went sort of like this.

She had gotten with me several months after breaking up with a guy she had been with for nearly two years, so I was expecting her last sexual partner to have been him. She made a hesitant statement that there was one other guy before me. It was a one night stand. I wasn't expecting her to have had a one night stand before and that's what I said. She went on to allude to having had quite a few. So I asked her how many. Suddenly she didn't know. I asked her how many guys she had been with total. Instead of answering she starts trailing off justifying a number I hadn't even yet been told. Talking about how 'everyone has a journey' and other stupid hamster shit. She went on about how she 'had counseling for two years', 'was in a bad place', 'was finding herself', 'hated being alone'. She then alternated between attacking me, saying I would judge her and justification/ victim complex. 'I'm not a bad person anon' Shit like that. All of this mind you, was self perpetuated. I wasn't attacking her, I wasn't making a big fluff about it. Maybe she could tell by the tone in my voice that deep down I was gutted, but her accusations were not founded. She at some point asked me 'do you really want to know'. And I committed to the mistake and agreed. She went right back into the same cycle of hamstering again and never told me. Then she comes out with 'my ex boyfriend found out and couldn't deal with it'. 'He never missed a chance to bring it up again' 'He had only been with one other person and couldn't understand'

Me 'How did he find out'

Her 'I wrote down all of their names in a little book and he found it'

Me 'Is the number that high'

Her 'No.. I don't think so.. I don't know what a normal number is. Yours is probably higher than mine' (she thinks I've been chad my whole life and I never corrected her. Meanwhile I've been with 5 girls total)

She had been making the insinuation that she's not like that anymore, but clearly she is after jumping from her dedicated LTR before me, straight back onto the cock carousel with a stranger. All of this began to hit home. She had been in a series of decent lengthed relationships after her marriage, so the mass of guys accumulated had to have happened over fairly short periods and in succession. The entire thing devolved into an emotionally driven argument by her, jumping all over the place to vent her feelings at me for totally unrelated shit. We never got any further with it, but clearly she has been absolute whore for the last few years.

Anyway, the news came as a surprise to me. She was a Christian youth leader as a teenager, super good girl, married very young and was only with her husband for the majority of her life. This and maybe a few boyfriends after was the picture she had painted. Not a fucking novel of guys names.. some of which she never found out.

  • Can't look at her the same
  • All the filthy shit we did together now just makes me ill
  • Sudden flood of memories of her behaving like a raw sexual, unhinged, amoral sex freak with me
  • Realise this is how she has been with countless other guys
  • Find out she's been with a number of different ethnicities on top of that
  • Makes me feel even worse that she has an interracial fetish and limited standards (ie. just trying black cock because of the stigma of black cock)
  • Thinking about all the cocks that have been inside her
  • Thinking of all the times she'd dressed up and danced for me, but with masses of other guys
  • Remember the plus sized condoms I found amongst her sex shit
  • Her face full of lust as she slurped down on yet another strangers shit in the bedroom I sleep with her in
  • That same face that slurped down on my cock when I would rail her like a whore
  • Remember how she admitted to regularly watching porn - Remember that time she shit tested that her ex boyfriends continue to sext her - All the signs that were there before suddenly becoming clear - Thinking of my girl acting like she's straight out of some depraved porno with every Joe in the neighbourhood
  • This is a girl I love
  • The very bedroom behaviour that got me hooked is now sickening to me
  • Realise I'm going through exactly what the last guy who loved her did
  • Realise her crazy sex freak shit has died down with me recently
  • I'm in a committed relationship with a dumpster slut who is no longer putting in that same effort with me

It wouldn't be so bad but I thought differently of her. It took a long time but she invested in me and I started to invest in her back. Eventually, significantly. Recently we had been talking about having a child together. So what the fuck do I do? I feel gutted and disgusted but at the exact same time, it twinged some needy part of my brain that doesn't want to leave her. Do I look for that fucking book and find out the true extent of her past? Do I try and detach and return to dominating her like I did before I started to love her?

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Title My LTR is a whore
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Date 12 April 2016 07:58 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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[–]bbm7234 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not gf material, you now know this. Its a sucky revelation but the earlier you found out the better. Start dealing with these emotions you have and prepare to move on. Good luck. A few years back I could have written a very similar post.

[–]awalt_cupcake30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'll tell you something I was told by an experienced man in real life when I reached out to him, drunk, and emotionally upset by letting go of my LTR because I found out she was a huge slut and she was only 18. I told this man, over the phone, the kinky shit we did, how often, but also how sweet she was and how we could do simple things like play video games together, chill together, or go out together...

But by the time I was finished describing the relationship he was laughing

"You fell in love with THAT? Brother, that's a playground!"

It struck me odd. But he was right. I fell in love with a playground. I had fun and it's not like I can un-fuck her or she can un-suck my cock. I craved intimate possession of a public ride. That's not how playgrounds work. You just have your turn and then the next person is right behind you. Get back in line or find a new set to play on. You can't own it and you can't control who gets on next.

Don't get emotionally attached to a playground. Don't try to own the playground. Have fun and try to fall in love with something you can actually put on a leash like a dog. Or a submissive woman who's into leashes.

[–]Sir_Distic12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's really good. Playground = she's not yours. It's just your turn.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a good way of thinking about it. Cheers

[–]50pluspiller106 points107 points  (27 children) | Copy

Remember that she is not yours, just your turn.

[–]thomasbkin27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like a lot of guys get a turn too haha

[–]gijoemaximus49 points50 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know the answer you'll get from everyone here. Dump her and fucking move on!

[–]Endorsed Contributorbalalasaurus61 points62 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're not ready to be given advice so OP, just stay with your "girl". And while you're at it, send me her number too. Thanks

[–]1atticusfinch197311 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

You're facing a harsh reality, which is that she's a slut deep down and caught you into an LTR. Learn your lesson and if you can't handle it just move on or downgrade her to a casual thing slowly.

I actually just recently had the same thing happen to someone who was trying to be in an LTR with me. If you learn how and when to ask the right questions you get trickle truths and then eventually can piece together the actual right information. Women lie. My girl had not only admitted to cheating on both her long term partners, she had one night stands with guys she didn't even find attractive for weed, admitted that when she was single she banged a new guy every six weeks over a two year period (and it was probably more often than that, it's just what she admitted to). She came up with some hilarious statements about giving up her pussy that made me laugh, the justifications she used were off the wall funny. Immediate downgrade to plate and my expectations were gone.

The basic fact is you can't look at her the same way and either need to accept that she's a slut and treat her as such (and obviously untrustworthy) or just end it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

you get trickle truths and then eventually can piece together the actual right information

Is this just by maintaining frame when you probe? As in, asking them stuff as they mention it but from an 'aloof, IDGAF and it's funny to me' position where they don't feel the need to hamster and lie?

I started keeping red flag diaries on her so I could maintain frame when confronted with unfavorable realities but always have a record of the little things I picked up.

As for the rest of your post, you've given me more substance to filter through some of this emotional white noise I'm dealing with and I appreciate that.

[–]1atticusfinch19732 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I use two approaches. Usually I ask direct questions, and then once I get a partial truth I'll use that at a later time to ask something like "so, you told me x about that situation, is that the only time that's ever happened?" and usually they will trickle a bit more out. You have to know good asking techniques. And yes, frame is essential. You have to make it seem like whatever the answer is it doesn't affect you at all, even if she admits to double anal penetration. Be stoic.

But like others have said, if you already have a list of red flags then that's your answer. Again, I went through the same thing. We refuse to believe until the evidence is right in front of us, which is a trait all nice guys have and something we all need to get over.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks again

[–]detachedbymarriage43 points44 points  (7 children) | Copy

To repeat what my father told me when I was 12 years old. And keep in mind as I say this, he was an old school, none emotional person. Born before WW2 and always saw the world for what it was.

"All women are whores. See your mother sitting that this table across from us? She's a whore too. The sooner you believe this, the better off you will be."

[–]Carbone22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, your father was the real MVP

[–]Louisie_steezy5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Damn dude your mother is a whore? God lol

[–]detachedbymarriage2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

The truth, I don't know the full story. My old man had a lot of gems like this but what brought him to these conclusions, I'll never know. He passed away when I was 20(in my 30's now).

I found out shortly after my divorce that my father slept around on my mother at one stage in the marriage but as I come from a family where women outnumber the men by a very large number, I seriously doubt anyone would ever tell me the full story.

[–]TheJunkieMonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like, even if this is true. Yes his father was an awesome man. But saying it in front of strangers? Where the fuck is your self respect at, foo?

[–]Bassethounds4ever0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So your dad settled for a whore because he didnt want to be alone?

[–]saber_fsn0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lol, I'm pretty sure your dad just get cucked by your mom

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I love you, don't say things like that. I know you are with me now. It's just that if you can't give me a number I am scared of what you might else hide from me."

When she tells you the exact number, break up with her at the spot. Godless whores don't deserve a second of your attention. Deus Vult, you whorish filth.

Also. if partner count doesn't matter, then why can't she be honest about it?

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[–]TRP VanguardWhisper5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Read my article on the TradCon Trap. Read the Bitch Management Hierarchy.

TradCon women are women. They are not different than any other woman.

Not all women end up as sluts and whores, but a TradCon background does not make them one iota less likely to do so. Not one percent, not half a percent, not a quarter of a percent. Nothing.

Do not ever allow a woman to get trust from you by any other means than earning it over time.

And dump that fucking hoebag.

[–]Nobodyknowsthetruth -1 points-1 points [recovered] | Copy

Can you link these articles? I can't find them.


[–]TRP VanguardWhisper4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I can't find them.

You didn't try. They are literally the top results on google.


[–]DforDeadpool2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't go against the Codex. Don't stay with her because you're catching some feels. Dump her and move on.

[–]RunawayGrain2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

She was a Christian youth leader as a teenager, super good girl, married very young and was only with her husband for the majority of her life.

Honestly these girls tend to be the biggest CC riders when they get going. They figure they are going to get married to prince charming and that the rest of their life is going to be a field of daisies. A lot of them marry the first guy that shows any interest in them. During the time they are married, they see the rest of the girls riding the CC and having fun. They rationalize it at the time as a sort of moral superiority. The marriage fucks up and then they feel insecure or like sluts because the once in a lifetime marriage thing is fucked up now. So then they start sleeping around with a vengeance.

One described it to me as "I did everything I was supposed to and it turned out bad, now I just do what makes me feel good."

[–]AdamantiteMind7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

You can do what makes you happy. The easy safe route would be detaching for sure. I personally would detach for sure, If you have second thoughts NOW then you think about what is in years.

Still she has done nothing wrong in the sense that she never cheated on you, right? If you can´t deal with her having had a significant number of other men, then you should bail out as soon as possible. Her being a slut is nothing special many girls nowadays are sluts, you should know that since you have taken the pill. Don´t buy into her hamster shit on the other hand weigh pro and contra of staying and investing in her. In the end it comes down to what is more important to you - your ego and her being pure or your current relationship. I for instance, fully understand if you can´t deal with her stuff, heck I wouldn´t deal with her stuff. Having kinky fantasies or sexual thoughts or even watching porn is one thing but acting upon it shows that she really has a slutty attitude. Well whatever:

  1. NO don´t look for her fucking book, what does it even matter? are you some kind of stalkerboyfriend - you already know that the number wouldn´t please you so why even bother thinking about it. What does it matter if it are 50 or 100, it´s too much either way. Forget the fucking book and forget getting the number out of her, chances are she will lie one way or the other.

I can only talk for me personally but a girl having such a fethish and porn/sex addiction is a huge red flag for me. Staying is a risk and I don´t really see that big of a reward. If she is really pretty and has an awesome personality you can/could give it a try but if it bothers you such much I don´t see any other way then either getting over it or getting aways from the relationship. I, for instance know if I ever got stds or sexual transmitted infects from my girl without her having gotten it in a non sexual way, then i am out for sure.

and the biggest red flag for me is : why the fucking hell does she write down every guy she was in bed with, some kind of fucking complex? wtf

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy

why the fucking hell does she write down every guy she was in bed with, some kind of fucking complex? wtf

I asked her that and she kind of half said in her weird female way, what I understood as 'So that it meant something'. Obviously the self esteem of this woman completely shat out after her marriage and some serious issues came through. If I stick this out I will have to be seriously detached and seriously good at maintaining frame because she has an emotional shit storm inside her that can't handle anything other than a stone cold rock of a man by her side. I'm kind of kicking myself because I entered TRP straight out on hard mode and with a woman that is evidently on the harder side of hard mode but what you said makes sense to me and has given me some ground to sought out this mess in my head.

I'm going to dig in and aggressively improve my smv in the immediate instance as my plan of action for right now and then decide on what to do in the coming days.

[–]psyflux7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

So that it meant something

Wrong. it's to narrow down who knocked her up.

At this point her credibility is 100% shot. It will be better for you in the long run to not place an ounce of belief in anything that comes out of her mouth.

[–]RedHoser1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think this needs more attention. Keeping a book like that is fucked up. Guys don't even do that shit, that's literally straight out of a sitcom. She must have some seriously depraved humiliation fetish if she is recording all the men that pump and dump her.

Ask to see the book. That will make your decision clear as day.

[–]Cedulus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

that can't handle anything other than a stone cold rock of a man by her side.

Don't tell this to yourself. You think keeping on for something that a man doesn't want, that a man with options, that smart man, will do?

Dude, there is no challenge is sticking up with a girl that turns your stomach up side down. That is not a test of any form of toughness, mental or physical. What's happening is just a distraction of concentration, and one that we all know (including you) that you don't want to deal with. A girl should be by a man's life to make his life easier, not to put him into a vortex of crazy. Again, don't take that shit as a challenge.

[–]genjuro_zero1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If I stick this out I will have to be seriously detached and seriously good at maintaining frame because she has an emotional shit storm inside her that can't handle anything other than a stone cold rock of a man by her side.

Sounds like the beginnings of some White Knighting.

[–]PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I knew a slut from school that did this. Kissing, fucking, blowjobs- all documented. She was 19.

This is the result of women trying to be like men. They actually get an ego boost from that book and are completly unaware of the implication. They love the sex and figure they can have both. Get the alpha dick all the time and then lie like it didn't happen.

It's like an alcoholic that drinks medicinal wine because it lowers his blood pressure. (My mom did this, fucking funny)

[–]nastynickdr2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Its sad, but is just the way things are today.

She is a slut. She chose that. This is not your fault, and theres nothing you can do to change.

She doesnt seem like a bad person. She really seems to regret what. She even openly told you she slept with tons of guys, most of the girls would never say it.

But no, under no cincurstances COMMIT to her. You dodged a bullet, if you had a kid with her you would be screwed hard. She will have the urge to hop on new cocks again, and when you are married/with kids, she will have you by the balls and do whatever she wants. Do not try to "fix" or "save" her, she chose this path, now she has to live with the consequences. And you go and find a decent girl. Not many left out there, but there are a few.

Some guys are against snooping in your LTRs phone or computer. If you did that in the beginning of the relationship, im sure you would have found lots of stuff there.

Didnt you notice any red flags? There must have been some stuff you overlooked.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah the relationship's doomed, yada yada, all the stuff you already know.

One thing that struck me is the amount of association in your comments between sex and immorality/filth/dirt etc. You may wanna get that looked at. Sex is not bad/naughty/immoral/filthy, it's a normal part of human life.

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[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If she isn't as bad as she sounds and you truly want to spend the rest of your life with her, then go for it. If not, dump her respectfully and find someone else.

Well said.

[–]NickMakaveli1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It's not worth it mate. Dump her however hard it might be for you now and move on. Apply abundance mentality.

[–]iagovar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't own her & viceversa, so drop her.

[–]Coolbeans024ptf 2 points2 points [recovered] | Copy

You have 2 problems, one is logically what to do and the other is emotionally how to process. Logically you know you can't be happy with her and sooner or later you will need to dump her because you will never get over this hump. The emotional side is the bitch, frankly I think time is really the main thing that will help. As you move forward you will not be such a basket case over this. Like most men, you value chastity but western women are short on that these days. In the end you will have to value women less than you are naturally inclined to because the average woman isn't what you hope she is. You might find what you want but so many women lie that you have to treat them all like lairs just to be safe.

[–]sqerl0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well said... Marrying the logical side with our emotional side seems to be tough business. Improving oneself (logical) and not giving commitment (emotional) are 2 ways to protect ourselves. Vet the shit out of your women before giving commitment and don't lose sight of your own goals.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah you have to move on mate.

[–]eccentricrealist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ah, shit, that sucks, OP. Still, she probably cheated on you if this std bacteria thing came out of nowhere. Just leave her behind and don't look back.

[–]PantsonFire12341 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your mistake was that you considered this your girl. You cared to much for her. From now on use the "dog technique", if you don't have a dog yet- get one.

It works like this. You form a bond with this loving, loyal animal that never fucks you over. Then you place your LTR lower in the ladder of 'importance'. She should be somewhere between food, a whole lot of nothing and the dog.

Nowadays I don't care if my plate or "girlfriend" is a raging slut. Because I take her less serious than the PC talk of a leftist SJW. Everyone's happy this way, I get kinky slut sex and she gets the illusion of commitment.

[–]SirCockburn1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Get down on your knees before you go to bed every night, and thank God you didn't marry her.

[–]quicklogaccount1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Man, I empathize SO MUCH. That thoughts won't go away while you're attached to her. Trust me, they haunted me in my dreams, her incapacity of repeating a fucking number twice when asked (paired with shit tests revolving around the subject), her confessed past "sexual positiveness". It still raises some anger in me when I think of it.

(I haven't broken up yet. I honestly don't know why I haven't.) But the images, thoughts and disgust ONLY gave me a break when I became ready to (IDGAF) pull the trigger and when after working on self improvement I began to receive some unrequested female attention (which offered me a glimpse of abundance mentality).

To THIS day, if I crumble the slightest, if I start giving a fuck (loving again?) I'm haunted sleepless.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy

This is exactly where I am right now. Deciding whether I can detach enough to return to an IDGAF attitude and just enjoy the relationship for what it is without letting feelings manifest.

Reading these comments and RP theory religiously since it happened, I get glimpses of overriding sense that seem to undermine the pair bonding I let happen in my head.

At the end of the day, she makes me dinner and other nice feminine shit, she responds super well to my being Alpha and she puts out hard and regularly when I act RP (we still sometimes fuck several times a day). In the black and white of it all, the relationship is solid. I just have to remember who the prize is and who needs who if I am to readjust my thinking so I can continue to enjoy this for what it is. Reading this stuff on a schedule and consciously putting my thoughts hard into self improvement goals has helped me so far.

I know if it is to continue I can't love her the way I have anymore, so if I can accept that, then I am left with good company and good sex without the investment that will lead me back down this road.

Will find out shortly if I can manage that and go from there. Thank you for posting, hope you can keep yourself from falling back into that rut.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Are you planning on this being exclusive where you expect fidelity and if she does not deliver that then you will be hurt?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The entire push into a relationship was from her. Hard. I was super reluctant to give her that commitment after not dating anyone for 3 years. She first started with a push for exclusivity, which I gave her. But for a very long time I considered it an agreement, which if she broke would have consequences (downgrade or dump). I didn't consider it something that bothered me as it would just relieve me of the commitment I had given her and allow me to gather other plates while still fucking her if I chose to.

So yes, it would still be exclusive. She still makes little interjections occasionally about how she doesn't want to share me etc. etc. and I can tell she actively fears me being swept up by another woman.

Right now, if she was to sleep with someone else, I would be very hurt. That's why what I'm thinking is (and feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong or that this can't be done) that I will spend less time with her for a while, associate with other girls more, refocus my SMV improvement goals (lifting, career gains etc.), avoid words like 'I love you', actively interrupt my thoughts when I find myself staring at her or thinking romantic things and see if I can't get to that point where she could sleep with someone else and all I would have is consequences for her, while being relatively okay myself.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I couldn't do it or pull that off, once I had gone further than that. I don't think I could ever downgrade, but just make a clean break. If you can, then great.

[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Man, if red pill allows some hypocrisy, I'd take my share of it and put in one simple advice:
Don't keep it going. Simply BREAK UP. It is no use to keep it going, you will not love her as you once did, it won't be as good as it was.

Now that said, I can tell you there are a few things I had to find out for myself, and you should too.
1 - Why does her high n-count bothers you so much if she's submissive and feminine? in my case is due to her usage of it as a shit test and a mechanism to assert power over me AND my resentment for not having had fun, plus the feeling that I was overcharged and never had access to her full sexuality
2 - How do you relate to your LTR's SMV and overall LTR value? How do you weight SMV, feminine perks and whatever else comes to mind? My LTR is between six and seven on HB scale. She makes up for it by being really "housewife" driven but that's not making the deal anymore, sex quality needs to skyrocket IF we're meant to even try, since at this time I have some regular attention from above eights.
4 - What can be done to make your relationship worth or go back to blue pill dream level of fulfillment? Is it possible? What's on stake here? I guess going really crazy in sex would be a worthy attempt for me, I've assessed the possibility and damage, and she'd only agree in a take it or break it deal, but she'd be really hurt being aware she wasn't enough, even if it made it work. I'm prone to break up without trying.
5 - IDGAF is no way to be in a relationship. Can you give a fuck again? What damage can she make? Remember, NAWALTs are out there but our LTRs have high AWALT chances. Honestly at this point, after one year of ultimatum and really invested behavior of hers, with little left to work on, I can say I won't manage to take my chances again with her. IDGAF is a pre requisite for me to sleep, otherwise I'm haunted.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Almost all men, if they are honest, have a gut level aversion to being in a committed relationship with a promiscuous woman. You don't need a higher level intellectual reason.

[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is some confusion I had for years, regarding "gut feelings".

"Gut level" feelings will drive action (or cause angst) disregard of reason. Failing to understand them on a rational basis doesn't disqualify them, as well as understanding them hardly qualifies what they drive you to as "good". Take mine, for instance. They have a rational basis behind them, I'm being beta as fuck.

The thing is, usually, understanding this "gut drive" guides you to a level of self understanding that will allow you to grow. They come from a weakness, and it's always good to purge them if you can. :)

[–]supersonic-turtle0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

not solid, you wouldnt be here shaking bushes if it was solid. Get out now before its too late.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Loves that his girlfriend is a crazy sexual freak in bed.

Is surprised that she got that way through a ton of practice.


[–]supersonic-turtle1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

dude shes a deviant undoubtedly, I highly recommend you not try and make a hoe a housewife... its possible but at great cost and life is too short to sell yourself cheap. Hey, kudos for getting thoroughly screened though unfavorable circumstances led you there but, still, alpha as fuck.

[–]CDBaller2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Are you a cuck?

If yes, keep seeing her.

If no, fucking stop, drop and next.

[–]minuscipher1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

So I'm curious to know, what was the count?

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[–]PittyParra 4 points4 points [recovered] | Copy

Man I'm all for red pill principles but all you dudes act like little insecure bitches.

Don't ask if you can't handle it. Frankly I don't want to know my Ltr sexual past, and i sure as hell won't share mine with her. Why? For this very reason. You let your emotions best you.

It's 2016 everyone has a whorish past, men and women. If they dont, they soon will.

Get over it or plate her. But don't go back and forth with this.

Grow up gents. Act like men not like little boys.

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[–]Maldek0071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My answer will be different than the rest here. Reason: You two have good sex.

A girl with a history is not uncommon. A girl with college, who has been married, is over 25 and has lived some time alone (or with BFF) is expected to have a dick count of around 20 if she is kinda shy.

If she is "one of the boys" type it will be 50ish. If she is a beauty queen type with heels, make-up, nice hair etc but not a hard 9, it will be past 100.

That said your girl is NOT some rare freak in todays USSA. Or western europe for that matter.

The bad thing would be if she sees you as beta provider to settle down with. Then you will find yourself out of good sex and into a pile of shit pretty soon.

If on the other hand you are an alpha to her and the sex is often and good, why do you care for her past? If she was as unexperienced as you are, maybe the sex would be far worse. It takes some practise i hear, to get deepthroating blowjobs done right.

As long as the sex is good and you keep pounding her 3-5 times per week, the two of you might have a bright future.

Add on after reading a few comments: As a man in his 40s who has seen a lot in his life I understand it is much easier for a keyboardjunky PUA to say "next her without a second thought", if he has had only limited experience with women. Like no co-habitation ever or nm children. A woman with a high sex drive is a blessing if you want to start a family and as long as you fuck her often and well she wont stray more than your own mom did. Not joking here - women are not angels, get that shit out of your head. None of them are, they are all highly sexual creatures. If you dont fuck them well, someone else will or did in the past. Thats normal.

[–]Carbone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


If the sex was good right at the start of the relationship she's been with ~6+ guys

So what are you gonna do ?

Yeah her past is shit but you can expect a virgin to fuck lile a goddess, deepthroat you without gag reflex, move her hips with enough momentum to make you cum in less than 10min when she's on top.

Except if she's a virgin that love new experience then you can teach her all this. This is not your case.

What you can be mad about is her keeping name of all the guy she fucked ( she seek fame ).

So judge her on being a rotten person for keeping a list, be mad at yourself about thinking she was the one prude virgin who was blessed from the sex god to make you cum hard but don't be mad bc she got more experience than you ... That's how life is in our day and ages.

Do like me, plate girl that have high not count to let your wild on, date virgin who want to learn.

Best of both world.

[–]NiftyDolphin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's her duplicity in this matter that should be concerning, not the number itself.

[–]akasomeoneelse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you stay with her you will regret it for the rest of your relationship and if you marry or have children with her you will regret it for the rest of your life.

[–]6482620 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can't make this shit up!

OP, it's over - move on.

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Do I need to explain?

[–]bukusuman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


Please read red pill sidebar. Also check out a trp reddit post called levels of sexual clarity because I think you are at level 1.

You shoulda pumped and dumped.

[–]MeatCurtainRod0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

So what's her number?

BTW, Are YOU one of those guys that 'got lucky' with her one night, fell in love with her sexual expertise, and are still surprised that she is moving on?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Finger her butthole and see what answer you get

[–]PantsonFire12340 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I really wonder what these girls do besides kinky sex and possibly anal. Shit like gangbangs and double penetration come to mind. Or sucking stranger dick.

Women go way overboard with everything. I'd be fine with all the former, but the latter is just fucking painful to the brain. Women that pull that shit and expect a decent relationship are batshit and cleary don't care about the mans emotional health.

[–]F_Dingo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She went on a sexual journey while the only journey you took was to the doctor for a possible STD.

If you're repulsed by her because of her sexual past, the relationship isn't going to work at all.

I wouldn't advise even going back to her, she gave you a sexually transmitted disease (thankfully not a harmful one) but the next time you may not be so lucky.

Better yet, how long until you receive the "I'm pregnant" talk from her?

[–]thomasbkin0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Dude, she is a whore. You don't want a whore as an LTR, been there done that. She will eventually cheat if she isn't cheating already ESPECIALLY since you said she isn't putting in any effort anymore. Whores aren't worth your time - as someone who is interested in TRP I hope you realize that your time is everything.

[–]huge_gap0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"Why do my eyes hurt?"

"You've never used them before."

"Welcome to the desert of the real."

[–]scobeedsm0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop being a p***y and move on. Do you like feeling bad for yourself? Plenty of other women to love, fuck, or do whatever you want.

[–]ToSeeAndToHear0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Holy crap dude, dump her and find another girl. Get some abundance mentality going.

I don't care if you love her, you're a man, put your feelings aside and act rationally. Use your feelings, don't let them use you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What did you expect? you didn't turn her into a whore. You got with a whore... why oh why are you confused??

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You have to move on. Having a child with a women who can't control herself is going to ruin the kid's life. All the shit she's done definitely eliminates her from being LTR material.

[–]Nodeal_reddit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You really think you might want to have a kid with this woman? I say move on. You're never going to get this out of your head. Sounds like you deserve better.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Watch what she does (or has done, in a sense), do not listen to what she says.

Anyone can say anything.

Women like this can get sex easily and don't place much significance in it. Therefore, she might understand why you wouldn't like to be cheated on, but to her it is no big deal, especially if you don't find out.

Men tend to think all women view sex as something important because it carries such risk for them and is invasive. Well, many don't. That's too loaded of a gun to have being aimed around randomly within a relationship.

I stupidly dated a girl likely similar to this for about 6 months. I never got as much disclosure though. I never trusted her at all and was driven to almost do some stalker shit before I ended it.

[–]KumonRoguing0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus this hit home for me. Get out, it is over. No matter how hard you to try to salvage it.

[–]seeing-red-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She cheated on you. Sorry but I'd bet $100 at least.

[–]hellor84290 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

definitely not relationship materia. Moreover, definitely not someone you want raising your child.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

you would be surprised to know how many whores are there in the world, most of the unicorns people see, are or was raging whores.

and anyway, who cares?

as long as she don't whore around while being with you (don't cheat on you and crap like this), you must be happy.

of course i would not marry her. just a short-medium term relationship is ok.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I think i might have fucked your gf too.

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