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527 Male students to have DNA taken in attempt to find one alleged rapist.

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Title 527 Male students to have DNA taken in attempt to find one alleged rapist.
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Date April 14, 2014 11:29 PM UTC
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[–][deleted] 196 points197 points198 points 12 years ago (42 children) | Copy Link

In a country where it's illegal for a father to get a paternity test on his children without the mother's consent, I'm amazed that they can rationalize this breach of privacy rights.

I'd refuse on principle. And I'd get others to follow me. Fuck France.

[–]Idle_Redditing 72 points73 points74 points 12 years ago (34 children) | Copy Link

How the fuck can anyone rationalize such an obviously one-sided law in favor of cheating whores?

Also, how the fuck can such a law be passed if the majority of politicians in France are still men ?

[–]t21spectre 55 points56 points57 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

how the fuck can such a law be passed if the majority of politicians in France are still men ?

Pandering for votes, otherwise they would lose the election and have to get real jobs

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]1mr_throwz 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, how the fuck can such a law be passed if the majority of politicians in France are still men ?

Because patriarchy.

[–]Ferinex 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

because they all go home at night. guess who is waiting there.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]vaker 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Who the hell downvotes The Wall?

[–]dazed111 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

the french?

[–]RojoEscarlata 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The Others?

[–]guisar 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Their mistresses

[–]whowhathuhumm 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because it isn't for them and theirs, it's for pleb males.

[–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice usage of that term. Gotta be real and call it as we see it.

I felt something similar the other day when I user said "like the disposable males we are". Bitter truth.

[–]pro_skub 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Tout test de paternité sans une ordonnance du tribunal est interdite, en raison de la volonté officielle de «préserver la paix» au sein des familles"

So, is to preserve family peace. Ridiculous if you ask me.

[–]Crackerjacksurgeon 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because years of passive aggression culminating in divorce is better than trying to track down Tyrone for child support.

[–]1Zackcid 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the same level of hamstering seen with women rationalizing their cheating affairs! Preserving "PEACE", really?!?

en raison de la volonté officielle

Lol. My desires suddenly become unofficial? Courts now decide what is right for me and what isn't? If I were a Frenchman, I'd just get a kit online and encourage all my mates to do the same. With enough awareness, this sexist law should eventually fall apart.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Also, how the fuck can such a law be passed if the majority of politicians in France are still men ?

Doesn't matter if the majority of the electorate is women. The politicians will do whatever the women want them to do.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

That isn't the correct law.

Neither parent can have a DNA test without the other parents permission or without a court order from a judge.

[–]hammertime999 18 points19 points20 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Maternity is not typically under suspicion...

[–]HalfwySandwch 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Which makes it entirely one sided. The variables are different for mothers and fathers.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

What variables are you referring to exactly?

[–]HalfwySandwch 8 points9 points10 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

The kid doesn't come out of the dude. The maternity it established by the merit of who it comes out of, the paternity was established 9 months ago. The dude should have a right to reestablish the paternity with a test at birth.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

He can! If a mother refuses, a husband can get a court order. That's what the civil law is there for.

In a similar vein, if you cant trust a woman to not fuck someone else and have their kid and lie to you about it, then as much as she is a cunt, you are also a bit of an idiot for allowing it to happen. Stupidity on both sides = civil law issue.

[–]HalfwySandwch 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

So you agree the variables are different? Then why do I need a court order to be sure it's my kid, but she doesn't? Requiring a court order, which might be denied, only serves to protect cheating whores.

[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Yes the variables are different. But that is a direct result of the biology at play. No amount of being sour is going to change the fact that females give birth and men impregnate. Yes on the face of it is seems 'unfair' that women can automatically know the baby is theirs and a father can't, but there is literally fuck all anyone can do about that (with the exception of manufacturing sperm/wombs I suppose). It's not men's fault, it's not women's fault, it's not the courts fault, it's not the governments fault. It's the fault of evolution, or God or whatever if that's your bag.

The reason she doesn't need a court order is because she carried the baby in her womb for nine months! The reason men do need one (presuming that in this hypothetical case the mother is refusing) is because the child has 2 parents, and so important things like DNA testing need to have permission of both parents. If a mother refuses, the father has the right to convince a court that over-ruling her will is for the good of all involved.

[–]HalfwySandwch 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There isn't fuck all anyone can do about it, they can do paternity tests. Our subject of discussion is literally a solution.

I know she doesn't need one, and that is why it isn't fair. What if the court order is denied? The dude is just fucked, and the solution is right there being ignored.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A lot of European men are very BP, as evidenced by the men allowing this miscarriage of justice to go forth.

[–]MrToM88 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Copy paste from my comment on MRA

3 threads about the same story and this is the top comment 3 times, and 3 times it's about as wrong as when feminists say "women make 77 cents for every dollar a man make". It's misinformation.

The point is you can't have a DNA test without a judge ordering one (that means a lawyer has to make a case) and even then you can refuse (if you refuse the judge have the right to interpret it how he sees fit according to the case he has on his hands).

That goes for men and women alike. You can't take the DNA of a random person on the street and have it tested.

Let's say a mother is convinced her child was swapped after the delivery. She wouldn't have the right to proceed with a DNA test any more than a father would ...

So yes DNA testing is banned unless you are in a very specific cases, but it's banned for everyone.

source 1 and 2

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Ignoring the prevalence of paternity fraud which is estimated to be as high as 10% and the utter impossibility of maternity fraud. You're comparing apples to oranges and living in a world of false dichotomies.

As well as ignoring the justification provided by the state linked by a French speaking user below. Namely that it is in place to keep families together in the event of questioned parenthood.

[–]1Zackcid 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ignoring the prevalence of paternity fraud which is estimated to be as low as 10%

FTFY, according to what I've been reading and hearing lately.

[–]MrToM88 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the utter impossibility of maternity fraud.

Surrogate mother would like to have a word with you.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you can provide evidence for a single case of maternity fraud perpetrated by the biological father then I will be nothing short of amazed.

If not, then you're just bluffing.

[–]Modredpillschool 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Female hormonal birth control for women isn't unequal because men and women alike have free access to it! See? Equality!

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 62 points63 points64 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Imagine how fucked a college student would be if this happened, and the girl saved his semen after consensual sex. The preponderance of 'evidence' would be his undoing.

[–]Idle_Redditing 37 points38 points39 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Solution?

[–]_and_a_PhD 35 points36 points37 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

ALWAYS take the condom with you or flush it. No exceptions. Especially if you have a good job or resources. A friend of mine caught a girl taking the condom with her. He is an environmentalist so he keeps a ziplock bag folded up in his wallet and in his car for just such occasions. He carries them in an out.

If you get into a situation where you can't do this wash the semen out with peroxide or spermicide lube to kill the sperm off. It takes a few seconds, but is worth it versus paying 18 years of child support.

[–]__var 46 points47 points48 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That reminds me of a female comedian (can't remember the name).

My boyfriend was so paranoid, he took his used condoms home with him. (laughs). I know because I went looking for them.

[–]trpfieldreport 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit, that's hilarious.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for this valuable lesson! I would not have thought of this on my own

[–]Modredpillschool 26 points27 points28 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In a world where justice and freedom are only as good as you can finagle by chance if you are a man... we are truly guilty until proven innocent.

♂

[–]Upvote Me!trpbot[M] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]aryan_crayon -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

bahahah

[–]roadhand 54 points55 points56 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

From a legal standpoint, the decision is completely logical, said Christopher Mesnooh, an American lawyer who works in Paris.

"Of the 500 or so men there's really only one who should have any concern," Mesnooh said. "What you have to do in this kind of case is you have to balance each person's right to privacy against what happened to this girl."

I see nothing in this article that even comes close to explaining how one alleged event carries more weight than one persons inherent right to privacy, let alone worth more than 500 peoples privacy?

1f > 500m = bullshit

[–]Davethe3rd 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

But if you're not guilty, then what do you have to hide? Why are you refusing to take the test if you're not guilty? /s

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[–]1FloranHunter 19 points20 points21 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

That would be a 40% chance of a false positive, right? sauce

[–]redpillshadow 15 points16 points17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That is correct.

As a quick explanation where the number does come from (your post should have more upvotes/ visibility).

We assume that all 527 men are innocent. So testing them all should clear them all right? But given the false positive for 1 test is 0.1% we can calculate the percentage of at least one of those 527 tests resulting in a false positive.

To get that overall percentage we calculate the opposite, that no test comes up with a false positive. For 1 single test that is 99.99% or 0.9999. Testing 527 men gives us 0.9999527 -> roughly 0.6 or 60%.

Now we want the opposite, thus 100% - 60% and we get 40%.

Isn't that great police work? You test enough men and even if none of them did anything you are a coin flip away from throwing someone into jail.

[+]idiotKyle -10 points-9 points-8 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So she was gangraped by about 250 men.

Wut.

Well that's patriarchy for you, you shitlord misogynist rapist cisgendered scumbag asshole white supremacist dickhole.

Edit: just did the math, that's 210.8 rapists. Would you let them roam free to oppress and rape womynz?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't they teach probability theory in high school where you are from?

[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Are you trolling or do you seriously not understand my comment?

[–]idiotKyle 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

A little bit of both to be honest.

[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol. Awesome.

[–]Endorsed ContributorWe_Are_Legion 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

As someone employed in the chemicals sector, I just have to point out this is a limitation we work to minimize.

Scientists can and do double and triple test to take the probability of false positives down. Especially in tests which can return misleading results(even if in fairly rare cases). An analogy is, you glance a crowd for a face, but when you find a match, you confirm, before putting forth effort to say hi. Its similar but much more comprehensive in chemicals engineering. We don't want to waste money on false data.

I don't do DNA testing though. But I imagine it works similarly.

[–]trpalternate 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only a rapist would worry about things like rights and due process.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

527 minors not having a "choice" over what happens with their bodies in a country where a woman's "right" to choose is maintained by law.

527 minors being put through the stress of a criminal investigation.

527 cases of profiling. Are their investigators so crappy at their jobs that they can't narrow the pool by height, build, or hair color?

Watch it turn out to be the janitor. 527 false accusations. Will there be 527 apology letters?

[–]Endless_Summer 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, they're accusing every single male student of being a rapist. Fuck these women, fuck feminists, and fuck anyone who thinks this is OK.

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[–]adayattheoffice2 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

What if it was a tourist? We should just test every male on the planet. Just to be sure.

[–]Teutonicfox 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

pull the astronauts from the ISS as well.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you insane? That's way to complicated. Just lock all men up, or even better #killallmen. They're all rapists anway.

[–]frugal_masturbater 14 points15 points16 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And by default euthanize every match. Remember, they all raped!

[–]theredslap 17 points18 points19 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what? and let the non matches go!? they just haven't raped yet

[–]James_Locke 31 points32 points33 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Forget mens rights for a second. This is just plain old fashioned unreasonable search and seizure.

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[–]Blake55 81 points82 points83 points 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither. — Benjamin Franklin

[–]puaSenator 59 points60 points61 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The actual quote: “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”**

That's easily one of the most misused quotes of our founders in existence. When he's talking about this, you need to get the context. At the time, the Pennsylvania Assembly was trying to tax the Penn family so they could raise money to fund a defensive army. However, the governor who was appointed by the Penn family kept vetoing every attempt of the legislature trying to pass a tax on them.

Then the family went ahead and offered to foot the entire bill, so long as the government agrees never to tax their land ever again. This is where Bengy comes in. He tells congress not to give up the government's power just so some rich people can temporarily protect them. He's telling the government doesn't deserve to be in power if it'll start giving up its power (a popular trend at the time effecting the whole country)

Instead of small government, the quote is actually advocating larger government (though, it's very anti-corruption/corporate).

[–]1lucifa 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Insightful. Interesting how quotes are skewed to suit an agenda.

[–]MelodyMyst 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And statistics...

[–]Blake55 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing that; I don't know a lot about American history. I pulled mine from a website that was obviously wrong.

[–]puaSenator 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No problem, it's actually misquoted. I also wasn't trying to correct you on the intent. I just thought it was interesting.

[–]WAFC 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Like many great quotes, it is applicable to a variety of situations, regardless of the specific intent.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Less "larger" and more simply "Virtuous" or "efficient". I'm not attempting to quibble with you - and I say this as a man leaning far more towards the Federalist side of things than a Libertarian/Anti-Fed one - but it doesn't really have anything to do with size of government inasmuch as it has to do with virtue.

[–]Furyk_Karede 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My god, the people in the comments claiming the test was "voluntary" just don't get it.

Refuse test. Get sent to police station. Get made to take test.

It's unethical and immoral, I would refuse the initial test just to waste their time.

[–]CaptainDerpknocker 34 points35 points36 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

be funny if like 5 dudes match

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quintuplets

[–]Stickman_Bob 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I am from this highschool. Ama I guess.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

are you going to answer any questions?

[–]Stickman_Bob 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hold on, I am not on the same continent as you.

[–]1bradyo2 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Any chance that she is lying?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh no of course not! /s

[–]Stickman_Bob 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No. It happened 7 months ago, there was a lot of police work.

[–]1bradyo2 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I thought that would be a case. I wasn't being facetious when asking, I was genuinely interested. They've gotta have a decent amount of evidence to pull something this big off.

[–]LinkenSphere1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What logic are they using to test 500 men? Wouldn't the girl know who raped her? Wouldn't she even recognize the face, skin color, nose, haircut? 500 men is too many, while they could have found 30 suspects or so.

[–]Stickman_Bob 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The lights were off (I know the place, it IS completely dark), and I think she was hit unconscious.

[–]1Mikesapien 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Are there any students or staff who refuse to cooperate, or are they all docile pansies? And if they refuse, does everyone else automatically assume they did it?

[–]Stickman_Bob 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One person refused. I don't know what people thought about it, I don't know him.

[–]1mrust 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What is the mood in the school? Are people out for blood or is there a sense or resignation to the inevitable? How is the administration framing this idea that every man will be DNA tested? Threats? Or is everyone being very co-operative?

[–]Stickman_Bob 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People don't care. Everybody is cooperative, we all want to get the guy.

[–]1FloranHunter 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I assume they only show quotes that agree with their narrative so: how do the other boys see this? What about the girls?

[–]Stickman_Bob 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Everybody is pretty OK with it.

[–]1FloranHunter 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is laziness. The easiest thing for the female prosecutor to do is to just DNA test every single male instead of doing any real detective work.

[–]NSYK 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So she has no clue whatsoever what the guy looks like? $10 says she is lying.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I find this the most suspicious. She has no idea whatsoever who it was because the bathroom was dark? Couldn't even differentiate between a student and a staff member? Also, not entirely sure of the age ranges in France but in my highschool in the UK students ranged from age 12-18, can't tell the difference between that?

Either the police are astonishingly incompetent or the girl is lying, I'm guessing both.

[–]Roll9ers 23 points23 points23 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

What a bullshit country France is.

[–]1Watermelon_Salesman 16 points17 points18 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe this could happen anywhere in the west.

[–]1Mikesapien 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can be. Sometimes.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Modredpillschool[M] 20 points21 points22 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

We have a men's rights flair because this content is on topic, and the red pill provides unique insight that /r/mensrights is afraid to broach. It's been this way since the inception of the sub, so all you newcomers who show up one day and think you know how shit's supposed to be can cool your fucking jets.

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[–]Modredpillschool[M] 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Then maybe we aren't a good fit for you.

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[–]Endless_Summer 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well good luck when you get accused of rape for pissing off an entitled bitch, cuz you gon be fucked

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[–]1Mikesapien 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

An average DNA test costs around $200, and in order to be admissible in court, costs roughly double (or even higher). This charade will cost at least $100,000. It would be less invasive and more time-efficient to just pay that out in damages to the girl and her family.

[–]mikelovesvegas 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Society prosecutes offenders for "justice" not expedience.

[–]1Mikesapien 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If they had any concern for justice, they wouldn't be taking this guilty-until-proven-innocent approach, but then that's what this thread is about.

[–]mikelovesvegas 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why I put "justice" in quotes.

[–]semigod__ 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

its ok, france has the money.

oh wait, its a socialistic shit hole.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

If anyone wants to take a DNA sample from me they'll have to do it by physically restraining me first, innocent until proven guilty and until such time we actually have rights as humans.

This is disgusting.

[–]1independentmale 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup. They'd have to forcibly hold me down. I would use every ounce of physical force available to me to resist. Fuck them.

[–]ChadThunderdick1 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Should you still feel the same if you were the father of this girl? From reading what happened, she wasn't "raped" (had consensual sex then regretted it), she was actually raped. Why shouldn't they use every available means to find the guy?

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Knowing what I know now, I would be a bit more wary of what she says. Before, I would have just crucified the guy and hunted him to the ends of the earth. I have serious doubts that a high school student would be stupid enough to take such an enormous risk. I find a consensual-to-regret ordeal more likely.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This has become more of a general problem not only focused on men over here in Germany.

The police also did this in a very huge amount to find mothers of abandoned babies which died.

Fact is that these tests are not mandatory but this is communicated in another way by the police.

Europe is slowly turned into a police state where everything technologically possible is legal to be used to identify and find the offender while disregarding the rights of the innocent.

This fits into todays view, that the rights of the many are of lesser value than the rights of the few.

ACAB.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Dude...acab is just bullshit here. They don't make the rules apab(politicians) would make way more sense.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's not comletely true for Germany as it is the police that constantly demands more rights.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't agree with ACAB, but it is a personal choice to be a police officer and every action of a police officer is his personal choice. If you aren't ready to sacrifice your job if that is what it takes to act in a justified way, then you are in fact a bastard.

[–]A_Seabear13 points 12 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

How is this not a violation of the fourth amendment unless they all consented?

Edit: Nevermind it's France, what a farce. Would anything like this occur in the states it'd be a civil suit in the millions of dollars.

[–]wheyproteinisolate 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I thought it requires consent from parents and the students because everyone is a minor

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

first of all the fourth amendment only apply to the usa

[–]SgtBrutalisk 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kids that go to school have the state as their legal caretaker. This principle is known as in loco parentis, substitute parent.

[–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The pendulum in France will swing and it will swing hard.

[–]1Mikesapien 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The comments on this article are just atrocious. Take the following:

This shows much more initiative than America. Good job France ... America needs to follow France's example. #goodjolbFrance [sic]

Ah, so guilty-until-proven-innocent is "initiative" now, it's a "good job" and an "example."

Orwellian language at its finest.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wasn't 1984 a warning ?

[–]1Mikesapien 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Apparently it was an instruction manual.

It is not enough to obey feminism.

You must also love feminism.

[–]sweetleef 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This story is missing some details. How exactly did the guy rape her without her getting even a glance at him, in a high school bathroom? The logistics of doing that are pretty complicated.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is France.. they don't even have freedom of speech, among other taken-for-granted American rights.

[–]batfish55 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The choice is simple for me," she said. "Either I file it away and wait for a match in what could be several years, or I go looking for the match myself."

Naturally, because all men are (or, apparently, will be) rapists.

[–]1Watermelon_Salesman 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the current scenario of western feminism political hysteria, I can picture this happening everywhere, be it the US, Canada, Brazil or any european country.

[–]vereonix 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So she was raped in a school bathroom, that to be honest could have been anyone, it is not hard for someone to walk into a high school. However they don't take this into account and proceed to violate the rights of every single male in the school, with total disregard for if the individual could have possible done it.

They're testing 14 year olds and the staff, someone of which I assume are fairly old, it is drastic and "logical" but it is the principle. They're reasoning would support mass surveillance and tracking, because hey if you aint got nothing to hide...

[–]Nemester 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What is crazy is that this is the same country that explicitly bans dna testing when trying to determine paternity.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

bbbut...

patriarchy?

[–]jonesbusiness 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know about this one. This seems very stupid.

[+][deleted] -9 points-8 points-7 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good. I think going to college should require a DNA test.

[–]Endless_Summer 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good. I think being a citizen of any country should require a DNA test.

Not a slippery slope at all.

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