Recently stumbled upon TRP community while trying to get a better idea of the male perspective.

Archwinger · 2015-09-18T04:54:32+00:00

If I do X, my wife fucks me. Other women offer. They call me an asshole but offer. Go figure. If I do Y, my wife says she likes me better. And would rather watch TV than fuck. Other women smile politely and go back to their cell phones.

I don't pay much attention to what women say.

lastsecondthrowaway1 · 2015-09-18T04:28:56+00:00

I have dated the "alpha", and I have also dated the "beta" and I can safely and confidently say that I would choose a beta over an alpha any day, and I know that I am not the only one.

Most of us have already tried being beta. It didn't bring us success with women.

So, somewhere there is a disconnect between girls who claim to prefer betas, and betas who aren't getting their dicks wet. I'll let you contemplate what that disconnect might be.

feminazis_stalk_me · 2015-09-18T04:38:16+00:00

You are referring to AWALT: All Women Are Like That. It's a generalization we like to use at TRP which simply means: all women are capable of shitty behavior. In reality, you could say APALT (People) and it still holds true. The reason we even use AWALT at all is because society tells men to put women on a pedestal. Society has an "all women are beautiful" attitude but in order to have successful relationships, men need to stand up for themselves and not be afraid to call women out on their bullshit.

A lot of guys stumble into TRP because they are the typical "nice guy" that can't seem to catch a break with the ladies no matter how much time, effort or love they give. We help them to see women as "humans" with their own separate mating strategies and agendas, rather than "special princesses" who hold the key to our happiness. This leads to an "anger phase" where men try to reconcile with this information. A lot of TRP posts are by men who are trying to work past this anger toward acceptance of how things really are.

AWALT isn't a black-and-white literal concept. It's a generalization. the goal is to educate men on the differences between male and female sexual strategies and help maximize our chances by teaching us how to handle ourselves so that the women in our lives are happier and less likely to display negative behaviors.

Other subs accuse TRP of being misogynist, which is not true at all. By making ourselves the kind of men women want to be with and putting the emphasis on self-improvement and sexual strategy, our women are happier as a byproduct.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-09-18T04:47:50+00:00

Come the /r/redpillwomen instead

taDrummerArtist00 · 2015-09-18T11:05:50+00:00

You keep saying you've dated alphas and betas and prefer betas. If being beta got men satisfying relationships then TRP wouldn't exist. Plus, you had the chance, as a woman, to date both. As a beta man you most likely won't even date let alone date a bunch of women and get to make an informed decision.

Furthermore, if women wanted men to be beta as TRP defines it they would reward that behavior. However, women don't reward beta behavior. They become friends with betas, they tell betas they want to meet someone like them (but not them), and then they date a string of alphas until alphas don't want them. They reward alphas.

TRP exists because women are not honest (with themselves and others) about what they really want.

NightwingTRP · 2015-09-18T10:51:01+00:00

I was initially impressed, but as I began to actually read and process the information being given in this subreddit I began to develop feelings of indignation. Not that I completely disagree with these theories.

That's pretty normal. You're designed not to view yourself as an awful person. There's a passage from the bible that comes up from time to time about the adulterous woman who will wipe her mouth calmly and declare that she has committed no evil. It's a good demonstration that even those thousands of years ago, men had spotted that women seem to naturally be capable of rationalising the most absurd stuff away - with the primary goal of not feeling like they're a piece of shit for their actions.

Yes, it is true that women today are hypergamous, manipulative, and in short, the devil incarnate. But does that mean that all women are like this? Not at all! The typical "woman" described by the red pill theory only touches on one specific type of woman: the superficial gold digger.

You've misunderstood AWALT. The theory is that every woman has the potential to act like this based upon her internal biological urges and sexual strategy. Women can overcome these urges and control themselves... but with the sexual marketplace always forgiving women for everything and telling them there is nothing wrong with their poor behaviour... naturally a lot of them are now following their urges blindly. The ladies over at /r/redpillwomen are proof positive that it is possible for women to rise above all this. (We've just noticed that the vast majority don't.) As a precaution, it's just good sense to assume every gun is loaded when the modern woman can destroy our lives on a whim by crying rape or divorce raping us, taking away our kids etc etc. TRP tells men not to get married anymore because following the traditional route puts us at far too much of a risk to lose everything.

I have dated the "alpha", and I have also dated the "beta" and I can safely and confidently say that I would choose a beta over an alpha any day, and I know that I am not the only one.

Here's some relevant reading for you.

I just can't get past the fact that not all types of women are fairly represented within the community.

This is not about fair, it is about what is pragmatic for the modern man. You want things angled for women then head on over to redpillwomen. TRP is for MEN. Helping MEN to get the best out of life.

Nevertheless, it has opened my eyes to see some of the things that I am doing wrong in my own relationship, and will be applying these new ideas to help become a better woman for my man so that he will have a stronger desire to be a better man for me.

Good, most red pill women want the same. Just keep in mind that TRP was never meant for you. Redpillwomen was meant for you. Most women want the alpha bucks... (you don't really want a beta, you want an alpha who is good at reading you and providing comfort when you need it.) I think they just call him a good man over on RPW. I hope it's helpful to you and that you'll strengthen your relationship.

99_Problem · 2015-09-18T04:40:57+00:00

"Alpha" isn't a binary state. And it's not necessarily a static, absolute condition.

You've dated the Alpha, you've fucked the Alpha. Game set match.

PIBagent · 2015-09-18T06:45:14+00:00

I have dated the "alpha", and I have also dated the "beta"

I'll bet you slept with the alpha while making the beta "work" for it too.

GayLubeOil · 2015-09-18T08:46:05+00:00

The majority of the content on Red Pill is written by men who are about 22. Which is to say written by men who haven't had enough time to fully figure things out. I recommend reading the Rational Male by Rollo Tomosai, to get a better more mature perspective.

Plugawy_Nedznik · 2015-09-18T05:45:23+00:00

Yes, it is true that women today are hypergamous, manipulative, and in short, the devil incarnate. But does that mean that all women are like this?

Yes. Source: you

probably_quite_drunk · 2015-09-18T16:42:47+00:00

I have dated the "alpha", and I have also dated the "beta" and I can safely and confidently say that I would choose a beta over an alpha any day

So I have to ask, if you've dated both, why aren't you still with the beta?

COPCO2 · 2015-09-18T20:18:19+00:00

This sounds like a guy pretending to be a girl.

Superfluous_Toast · 2015-09-30T19:31:02+00:00

You articulated how I feel more accurately than I ever could. Thank you.

HappilySingleWoman · 2015-09-18T04:17:09+00:00

TRPillers will tell you that they're just "exaggerations" and "heusterics". It's the argument they use against any criticism they receive.

Cyralea · 2015-09-18T15:49:56+00:00

The typical "woman" described by the red pill theory only touches on one specific type of woman: the superficial gold digger.

This to me simply sounds like more of your indignation. It's hard for you to self-identify as a woman who regularly engages in immoral activity, so you rationalize that we must only be talking about a certain type of disreputable woman.

In truth, most women bear to some degree all of the characteristics we lay out for women. All women are hypergamous, but the degree to which it manifests is different.

I have dated the "alpha" and I have also dated the "beta" and I can safely and confidently say that I would choose a beta over an alpha any day

I'd wager because you are defining the "alpha" as the non-committal type. Seeing as how you're LTR focused it's easy to see why you'd avoid them. In truth, I suspect you'd be all to happy to be with an alpha that desired commitment with you.

My advice to any woman reading TRP is to put aside some of your feelings when reading the ideas. Some concepts will apply to you more than others, and a few not at all, but none of it is false in the general sense because of that.

LoGMunKy · 2015-09-18T13:02:51+00:00

In my incredibly short time browsing this forum, the amount of gross over-generalisation astounds me.

I doubt you will get much good advice here but you might learn a thing or two by seeing what people respond with. I agree, the world is far from black and white and gotta laugh at people who think the alpha-beta dichotomy actually exist in that simple a format. There are all shades in between and people can flit from dominant to submissive depending on the situation. It really comes down to personal viewpoint and sadly you will only gain bias viewpoints on here. Circular logic and patting oneself on the back seem to be pretty standard. I have neither the patience nor the silver tongue needed to play this game. Im going back to my lovely girlfriend and child and am going to talk to people who want to listen and discuss, not paint all women/men as one thing or another.

Good day people, I wont be back nor, I suspect, missed.

Lonny_zone · 2015-09-18T15:26:28+00:00

I really want you to define beta behavior based on your limited understanding, because it is likely you wouldn't like the worst beta behavior some men are capable of, but otherwise it sounds like you are ready for r/redpillwomen so you can help yourself to break the cycle of "abusive" behavior so many women are guilty of.

Also, this post it so rational that I have gained new hope for womanity.

Title	Recently stumbled upon TRP community while trying to get a better idea of the male perspective.
Author	lastsecondthrowaway1
Upvotes	7
Comments	78
Date	September 18, 2015 4:00 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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