Don't get the whole slut-shaming going on in the RPW and TRP.

[deleted] · 2015-02-25T10:19:45+00:00

I don't even try to rationalize anymore why I don't want to be with a slut.

Trp makes a lot of good points about alpha widow problems, possible loss in bonding ability, stds and so on, but in the end it doesn't really matter to me.

On an emotional level I find sluts unattractive and that is enough for me to rule them out. Maybe I am insecure, maybe it's an ego problem, I don't care. I could think about that for ages, do therapy and whatnot. Instead I limit my dating pool to non-sluts, because I am confident enough that I can find one for a commited relationship.

JP_Whoregan · 2015-02-25T02:48:46+00:00

Warning women there are consequences to being a slut is not shaming them

1029102910290 · 2015-02-25T04:13:25+00:00

100 women though? lmfao damnnnn

YaBoiTibzz · 2015-02-25T04:09:59+00:00

Are you talking about just casual bang partners or LTR material? I have to assume the former since you can't be much of an LTR person with a 100+ partner count. TRP doesn't have a problem with banging promiscuous women for fun, in fact they recommend it. They just say, don't LTR them.

mustang_mike · 2015-02-25T02:38:59+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbvrGiL_s70

TRP's views on slut shaming, masked in comedy.

this is not the middle-east where a woman's value depends on how tight she keeps her legs together.

Her value to me is partially influenced by how much/little self control she has. If she's a slut that can't keep her ankles together, then that makes her less valuable to me, because she's liable to keep spreading those legs.

That being said, I don't slut shame. But I also don't shout "she's a strong, independent woman!" from the top of the mountain either. If a chick's a slut, I'll sleep with her a couple times, and then move on. Because that's what sluts are good for for me, some quick fun. Not Everlasting Love (tm).

cxj · 2015-02-25T05:50:49+00:00

I don't shame sluts, I fuck them. Then I move on. No sense in shaming really, not gonna change anything and I don't care anyways.

I also don't really want a virgin but I've already fucked a few, nothing special really. Fantasy > reality. I'd personally rather have a girl with a proven track record of almost only having sex within LTRs, but that tried a ONS/FWB once or twice and regretted it enough to never want to do it again.

SirNemesis · 2015-02-25T06:27:01+00:00

So you're accusing slut-shamers of being virgin losers?

sh1v · 2015-02-25T09:00:03+00:00

The thought of giving love or commitment to a woman who's had 100 dicks in her is just physically revolting to me at an instinctive level. It'd be like eating garbage or leftovers that a thousand other dudes put their fingers in. If that's insecurity, so be it.

It's funny, because I see the opposite effect as well. The most vehement and numerous TRP critics are sluts and betas. They get defensive and insecure because of what TRP implies about them so they lash out or try to shame the shamers.

ThorLives · 2015-02-25T06:28:48+00:00

I'm not going to explicitly argue against you, but you should at least acknowledge that you're making a dichotomy between virgins and sluts. Stuff like this: "The last thing I want is girl that's a virgin." makes me think that you're thinking in very binary (and inaccurate) terms. You make it sound like every woman falls into "slut" or "virgin" categories. There's a huge middle ground where most women exist.

Second, just because you slut-shamed a girl because you were insecure doesn't mean that it's the only reason anybody would ever do that. I will acknowledge that there's a fair amount of jealousy on the part of guys that women can have sex far easier than guys can (meanwhile, a lot of guys are having their sex drive suffocated by a lack of willing women), but there are other reasons why someone might not like a girl with a high partner count. Personally, a few years ago, a girl I was hooking up with told me that she had slept with over 50 guys. It was a turn off - mainly because I started thinking about STDs (and, no, they don't test you for all STDs if you go to a clinic; so nobody is entirely sure that they are STD-free) and also because it suggested that she was emotionally unstable and used sex as a method for dealing with her problems, the same way that some people use alcohol to deal with their problems.

niczar · 2015-02-25T07:35:59+00:00

Define "shaming." Disapproving of something is not shaming. Actual slut shaming would be pointing someone out in public and shout "look at her! she's a dirty slut!"

fizolof · 2015-02-25T02:41:04+00:00

There has been a lot of discussion of this topic.

I dont think there is a lot of slut-shaming on RPW, they just try to warn women of the consequences.

SoldierGenerale · 2015-02-25T11:26:47+00:00

Isn't that just like saying, back when I killed my first man I felt bad about it but 100 murders later I don't even care if it's women or children?

(Ignore the moral implication of this analogy if you wish)

SoldierGenerale · 2015-02-25T12:59:53+00:00

I think it's not so much about the fact that the girl is having sex now, it's more about how she probably won't stop once she gets married. TRP preaches "fuck sluts, ~~marry unicorns~~ don't marry at all".

AdmiralVonJackass · 2015-02-25T04:44:19+00:00

According to Steven Pinker (How the Mind Works, Chapter 6), Monogamy is a social contract that arose to primarily benefit beta males. Men would lay claim on women at a young age, and by mutually agreeing not to compete with each other for more than one wife, so more males would be able to have wives.

If a group becomes polygamous, the balance actually tips in favor of the females. They are not bound to a man if they made a poor choice, or were assigned a nonfit male to spend their life with. Instead, they can become a part of a harem for an "Alpha Male", for lack of a more descriptive term. Thus they secure premium genetics for their children by sharing access to the most capable male.

Of course this leaves beta males sexless, and this is undoubtedly not in their best interest. So they attempt to manipulate the social structure to encourage monogamy with tools such as "Slut Shaming". Shaming and religion have been highly successful, but as female groups gain more social power, things trend back towards the harem style mating strategy.

When you think about it, what sort of self respecting alpha male would complain about harem behavior when it is in their favor? But it is a very bad thing for the average man.

blackhawks93 · 2015-02-26T03:13:53+00:00

Its much harder to have a high partner count as a male than it is if you are an attractive female. There is a double standard when it comes to partner count because men and women can not be judged the same when men have a significantly longer hill to climb then women do.

Slut shaming isn't right, but it's not ok for girls to think that their numbers are equal to guy's numbers. A guy has to work a lot harder then women do.

[deleted] · 2015-02-27T18:47:24+00:00

IMO a lot of it is to do with being excluded and driven by fear of bigger / better etc.

Archwinger · 2015-02-25T11:26:21+00:00

This very topic seems to come up about once a week, sometimes more. The question itself assumes something that's simply not the case: It's not about the women. It's about the man.

An attractive, successful, interesting, valuable guy has options with multiple women. Lots of girls wouldn't mind dating him. Lots of girls are willing to have sex with him. Girls are abundant in his life. That means that no particular, individual girl is all that unique or special. He can find another pretty easily. So he's in a position where he can be choosy if he wants.

It doesn't matter what one specific slut may be like. She's just not all that unique or special to a worthwhile guy. Sure, she might be great. She might have been a decent partner, fun, good chemistry. Or the opposite. Doesn't matter.

A worthwhile guy doesn't have to bother seriously considering her as a long-term option. He has six other girls who want him, any one of which is just as good as she is in every way, and not a slut.

He doesn't take sluts seriously because he doesn't have to. It's about him, not about the sluts.

RedPandaSquad · 2015-02-25T08:39:56+00:00

Non-sluts are exciting because they're so rare. In my social circles, every girl is slutty and proud of it because its revolutionary / progressive / cool / whatever. When I meet a girl who isn't like that, it intrigues me. I find that women who are demure or modest can be very attractive. I wouldn't say it's "slut shaming" though. In general I'm attracted to the extremes -- hot ass sluts who are pro at sex AND unusually chaste (relative to their social environment). It's the intermediate ground, the CC riders who are "finding themselves" before they settle down suddenly or whatever, that I find boring.

sigmayogi · 2015-02-25T04:09:42+00:00

I don't get it either. I was always curious to learn a thing or two from this type of girl, and hopefully not suck compared to the rest of the dicks she rode.

I would not however get into serious LTR with anyone with over 4 partners. I am not judging, its just not for me personally - for exact reasons TRP outlines:

Weaker pair bonding. Higher chance of breakup. Alpha widow possibility. Running into old psycho boyfriends.

My current LTR is a virgin. Couldn't be happier. She is more of a freak than any "slut" I've been with. Like... wtf was that girl?! lets try it again!

Title	Don't get the whole slut-shaming going on in the RPW and TRP.
Author	SoldierGenerale
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Date	February 25, 2015 2:24 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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