What do you consider high value men and high value women?

JaJammerJan · 2020-01-06T20:36:38+00:00

good looks, both men and women.

Therefore not hard to determine since beauty is objective and it's been shown by studies that humans, even across cultures, generally agree what is attractive and what is not.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2020-01-06T21:02:42+00:00

High value TO me, irrespective of what other people think

pinkdrawings · 2020-01-06T20:49:44+00:00

Being attractive (both genders)

Being thin (women)

Being tall (men)

Having a good salary (men)

Having good homemaking skills like cooking (women)

Able to navigate social situations well (both)

Mentally stable (both)

Considerate of the people around them (both)

Ability to lead (men)

High value is a tricky thing because it just depends on where you're at. Someone who is sort of a homebody might not find a man/woman who is super social and outgoing to be of "high value" because of that. I just went with the basics.

hyperrreal · 2020-01-06T20:42:52+00:00

I've said this over and over, but but basically "high value" is a meaningless term. High-value people are people who are valued highly by others IRL. That's it.

The reason why this always comes up on PPD is that TRP, FDS, etc. try to work backwards. Rather than observing social value as a phenomena, and building a definition from there, they start with a definition that fits into their ideological framework. Then, they use that definition to try to disqualify those not following their system as being "low value."

The whole issue is nothing more than rhetorical gamesmanship these online communities use to keep people following the party line (don't get married, don't have casual sex, and so on).

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2020-01-06T22:02:48+00:00

Good looks and money. The only things that matter in this world

CHAD_TDK · 2020-01-07T01:25:32+00:00

Depends on who you ask

According to r/FDS:

HVM is directly proportionate to his re$ource$

HVW: just breathe, you're the prize

According to yours truly:

same for HVM and HVW
fit and not fat; best if they go to the gym and it shows and not because they starve themselves (one can tell & feel the difference)
not unfortunate physical deformities
no mental illness
financially stable and not broke AF living paycheck by paycheck
College graduate in STEM/Business from a good school, best if an advanced degree
With a solid career and not a joke-of-a-job or a job that is a mean to itself and not to a bigger end
Able to hold a conversation on more than the weather, sports, gossips
Capable of 1 original thought once in a while, and not just constantly regurgitating narratives from polarized Zeitgeist
Active and assertive and not passive-aggressive and/or entitled

gunbusterxl · 2020-01-06T23:05:26+00:00

How do we determine what’s high value?

Irrelevant. Everyone has different things that they value. Find someone high value to YOU.

acron5n5 · 2020-01-06T22:24:10+00:00

The value is defined solely by your desirability for people of the opposite (or should I say 'preferred') sex. Nothing else matters.

WIA20XX · 2020-01-06T22:31:35+00:00

HVM = the men who run society.
HVW = the women that high value men parade in public.

NeedingAdvice86 · 2020-01-07T03:06:25+00:00

Again...you are asking a logical question to an emotional decision.

You will get a ton of nice, educated, gets alone with puppies and help staff, ambitious, or cute, pleasant, non-bitch "logical" answers but all that goes out the window when the person that triggers your thangs enters the picture and it will not matter in the least.

Ladyofblades · 2020-01-07T13:14:25+00:00

The most basic of answers is that high value people are those who add true value to everyone around them on all levels - individually, as partners; socially, as friends, peers and family; and to society as a whole. This spans the spectrum - leadership, healthy interpersonal interactions, hard work, prosperity, and joy/happiness. You can confer value with attractiveness, but even more by being an indispensable individual and being broadly recognized as such.

centaur__unicorn · 2020-01-06T21:02:58+00:00

Very few people of either gender are genuinely "high value". The remainder who appear to be high value are but passable simulacrums whose true identity as not high value is discovered after some period of repeated exposure to the person. "Getting to know them", in other words.

Workaholiconew · 2020-01-06T21:53:20+00:00

What do you consider high value men and high value women?

To men: Or extremely attractive (Alpha), Extremely wealthy (Beta), a mix of the two (AB)

To women: Extremely attractive.

How do we determine what’s high value?

In heterosexual relationships, we determine value by what the opposite sex values on a partner. A partner for fucking in SMV, a partner for LTRing in RMV.

LifterofThings · 2020-01-06T22:04:15+00:00

Men - status (and all the things that contribute to that -- looks, social connections, resources, charm, etc etc)

Women - looks and youth and to a lesser degree, social aptitude.

Notsonewguy7 · 2020-01-06T23:05:40+00:00

Fit, attractive for both men and women.

I personally prefer a soft feature woman. I've always liked nice legs. I love Bookish shy woman. Not very aggressive. Shorter than me but not to short.

With men just having any muscles is good. No bodybuilders of course. Well equipped or good caboose. A little agression is nice. A good job is great or at least stable.

• If the guy is very masculine I prefer him to be taller or really jacked. Dark hair if not black. If black Dark skin since I'm lighter I like the contrast, but light skin guys are.

• If the guy is feminine I don't have any real preference physically other than them being shorter than me.b

HeckleandChide · 2020-01-07T00:31:31+00:00

How much value they add to your life purpose.

Yes, that means that value will be somewhat subjective but that's literally everything in life to one degree or another.

Wallstreet3 · 2020-01-07T02:00:35+00:00

For a woman. Attractive, over an 8 physical. Personality wise; fun, engaging, cooperative and secure with romantic partners, kind, compassionate, charismatic, agreeable, open and conscientious personality.

She is not a bad bitch, a mean girl, not a pickmeisha, she would roll her eyes at FDS douchery nor is she the type to 'have her fun' and 'explore herself' or any of that shit.

centaur__unicorn · 2020-01-07T05:59:19+00:00

HVW: makes a good mother to my children, high libido, not fat, not a gold digger

nosynobody · 2020-01-07T07:14:31+00:00

Good looking, well educated, articulate, passionate about their interests (even if i don't understand it) kind and has a decent job. I am bisexual so it applies across genders, height has not been much of a factor for me.

Redslif · 2020-01-07T07:21:37+00:00

Obviously, it's extremely subjective.

Women-

Looks good without makeup
Doesn't need to be a genius intellectually but needs to have average intelligence as a minimum. Dumb women are low value no matter how hot they look
Loyal
Decent homemaking skills
Not promiscuous

Men-

Stoic. Someone who's not triggered by everything that happens under the sky
Physically attractive (Height, Body Frame etc)
Drive to succeed
Instinct to provide and take care of his family

AhornEiche · 2020-01-07T08:47:57+00:00

Means high in demand.

Women define a high value man different then men.

HVM For men: Gets sex a lot. Get's away with immature shenanigans. Etc.

HVM For women: Alpha Bucks

HVW for men: Cooks, puts family over career, sexy etc.

HVW for women: Puts herself first, sassy, does not care if ages etc.

grogo2018 · 2020-01-07T09:28:32+00:00

eli_subtopewdiepie · 2020-01-07T11:32:45+00:00

Smart and funny and smoke a lot of fucking weed

creepykittymeow · 2020-01-07T11:46:22+00:00

Being smart. If a person teaches me something new we will get along.

OddButton6 · 2020-01-07T19:16:52+00:00

Attractive, intelligent, mentally stable, wholesome, conservative (not politically), stable, and personable. This is for men and women.

xoxuv · 2020-01-08T15:41:36+00:00

Economic theory has the answer: value is set by the consumer.

You cannot sell wine to a society of abstemies. It does not matter how good the quality is, how expensive is to make the wine, and how many years it takes to make it. His value is zero, because nobody will pay a cent for it.

A high value woman is what the men, who is the consumer, decide.

Women decide what is a high value men, by having sex with him. If women desire a man, he has high value.

What matter is not hat a woman says, or believes. What matters is ONLY that the woman wants to have sex with him.

Jake_Chavira · 2020-01-06T23:50:57+00:00

I was already expecting looks to be mentioned but I was really hoping the top comment would mention high quality content of character. Just lost my respect for you guys. No I am not pretending to be better as I know personally that first impressions matter but come the fuck on.

M4sterDis4ster · 2020-01-06T21:27:24+00:00

Biological attractiveness is objective for both sexes, personality which attracts you is subjective, so I will liste those:

1.) Feminine : There was thread about it just yesterday, exact those characteristics.

2.) Intelligent : Not educated with some useless diploma. Above average IQ, so if she doesnt have diploma, she can easily obtain it. Someone with deeper understanding of the world.

3.) From left to right on political spectrum, either centre or a bit more to right wing.

4.) Not a feminist.

5.) No casual sex history : I want to be desired, not pragmatic and logistical option.

6.) Willing to have kids and willing to stay home with kids for few years until kids grow up.

7.) No tattoes/piercings : Nothing more beautiful than pure skin. From my experience, tattoed people lack attention so they make it up with that. Anyone pretty dont need to "enhance their body".

8.) No drug abuse history including marijuana.

Orange_Paisley · 2020-01-06T20:47:14+00:00

Attractive, interesting, financially comfortable, intelligent, socially adept.

QueenCousland86 · 2020-01-06T21:03:21+00:00

There is almost no universal "high value" people, especially in the arena of dating specifically.

For example, and friend of mine and I have POLAR OPPOSITE tastes in men, and differing goals when it comes to relationships, so the guys that drools over are barely a blip on my radar, and vice versa.

AchromaticFade · 2020-01-06T21:37:40+00:00

Considering what I offer myself, a "high value man" would be:

average or above average looking, average height (5'9 <)
makes more than the minimum wage.
has common interests
healthy BMI
is diplomatic and calm
does not drink or smoke
accepts that if I ever have children, it willbe through adoption.
slept with less than 10 people.

I am have a bit more of an equilaterian mindset, therefore I am feminine by behaviour and masculine by thought. I am aware of how difficult it is to find such a man, but if I would prefer to be single than having to lose myself to have someone.

Title	What do you consider high value men and high value women?
Author	KickKathleeenKennedy
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Date	January 6, 2020 8:33 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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