Anyone else here on gear?

blaackbackedjackal · 2020-04-07T15:11:46+00:00

What do you say when chicks ask you about your steroid use? Are they ever turned off when you tell them?

optimase_prime · 2020-04-07T16:32:24+00:00

This is something I’m very passionate about. Steroids, LIKE ALL DRUGS, are not safe when abused. You could kill yourself with Tylenol. If you educate yourself and follow a proper protocol, testosterone Is life changing with truly no to almost no side effects. The steroids reddit page is a great place to start.

i-am-the-prize · 2020-04-07T14:37:02+00:00

I'm on Test + HCG. this plus getting my thyroid and blood sugar (fasting glucose) in check helped me get into shape. I've certainly worked hard in the gym lifting and been very disciplined in my diet to get here (from over 40%BF to under 15%BF) but no doubt that hormones were the missing link for me. I do bloodwork quarterly and so far it has been a positive experience. (libido wasn't the issue before - no ED- just lethargy and obesity).

throwaway90091234 · 2020-04-07T19:07:10+00:00

In my opinion you should only take roids if you are planning to compete in bb ( as in your case),have issues with T levels, or want maximum perfomance in sports ( where possible), everything else is bs.

I cringe when i see a guy who is an office guy or something and is on roids, just to "look" good,lol. So he is like a woman, woman has make up and plastic surgery, he has roids, lol.

That's feminine way of thinking ( improve looks ) cuz women SMV is 100% dependent on looks. Where as guy's SMV is dependent on many things and the main one is perfomance/competence.

This is why it makes sense the pro BB or the athlete to take roids, they want to be the best at a certain competition,especially the athlete that has to apply skills with that body of his ( so, he needs quick recovery,more energy,etc ) .

This is what happens in BJJ competitions now, no relugation, the guys who take roids can train 30-40h a week, the non roid guys can train 10-15. So, end of the day the roided guys get more reptition with all the techniques, so over time they are technically better grapplers/fighters/competitors, not because they are stronger or look "better" but because they repped the technique more times than the others. That makes way more sense than the office guy who wants to "look" good,lol.

skill/performance > strength > muscle > looks

This is how it should be for most men.

Women like muscly guys cuz back in the cavemen days that muscly guy could hunt for bigger game and protect better from wild animals and/or other attackers. It had nothing to do with looks. The looks implied that perfomance, but nowadays they don't . Cuz if there is WW3 or apocalypse I dont want the big roided office guy who never hunted or fought in his life for a teammate, I want people able to perform - fighters,hunters, engineers,technicians,doctors, all guys who can apply their skills and knowledge into the real world , looks on the other hand apply nothing.

TLDR: roids outside competition and healh issues ( T levels,etc ) with looks only in mind, are a feminine trait tools, as make up and plastic surgery are for women

Kniit · 2020-04-07T15:30:25+00:00

Going off the sentiment that being alpha and red pill is about being the smartest person in the room.

Roids literally increases the size of your heart and that makes it wear out faster. You're taking years off your life if you plan to do them for a long time. Additionally, in my opinion roids users look like shit 90% of the time. Depends what your goals are. But if you want to pick up girls you want to be 80-100 kg and proportionate. Have big arms and a six pack. I lift to not be as big as possible but to look the best as possible. And best to me is around 8-12% bf and 90kg ish and Proportionate. Having toothpick legs is autistic as fuck. Like makes you look worse than just staying 50kg.

If you have to cheat to put on muscle mass then you're only lying to yourself. Which is against the principles of TRP in the first place. Thinking size will solve all your problems is just covering for your own insecurities and you'll go nowhere in life.

monky-loves-you · 2020-04-07T14:48:08+00:00

Yeah b/c for the past 7 years. Don't care if it affects my health rather be the flame that burns twice as bright and burns half as long.

more confidence, better body, more assertive, deeper voice, etc. But there is some drawbacks, like sometimes not being able to control my temper, being condescending,

All of the above, yes.

and having an insanely high libido 24/7

But strangely, not this one. Libido has always been totally normal even blasting on grams of gear. Actually I'm kind of monk moding at the moment, or maybe MGTOW haven't even been on a date in over a year, deleted all my plates/fwbs sometime in 2018 and don't even care. Most women just annoy the fuck out of me tbh.

Meanwhile the coronavirus lockdown has me going insane because I can't go to the gym and bodyweight exercises aren't cutting it.

GetBehindMeSatan666 · 2020-04-07T14:33:52+00:00

like sometimes not being able to control my temper, being condescending

This is just you. Anabolic steroids, TRT, or testosterone injections dont make you an asshole. Youre just an asshole. They dont effect your emotions. Roid rage is a myth. Dont be a dick head and use it as an excuse to be a woman and not control your emotions.

Jacked libido is very real. Youll fuck a door knob

Sylvester_Sterone · 2020-04-07T15:57:10+00:00

Trt changed my life when I was prescribed in at 28. Brought me from a test level of 400 to 1200 at 200mg a week. I'm 32 now.

Had an insane increase of libido when I started the program but over time it levels out.

Yes, I definitely have more sex with more women as a greater number of them are more attractive but the quality and looks department is questionable. However, the overall abundance of opportunities is unquestionable. Makes me think about my previous onetitis in the late teens and early 20s was due to having low testosterone.

How long have you been on? Are you blasting or cruising?

I find AI management to be difficult as I respond very well to a small dose.

A final note, I realized it is important to take your HCG or pregnelone. Other important hormones are created such as DHEA and pregnenlone from the testes and being shut down produces little of it. Over time I was having trouble sleeping and getting ridiculously irritable with lack of quality of sleep. Started taking 50 mg pregnelone and it make be sleepy and relaxed at night time with an increase of deep and REM sleep.

LucidBananna · 2020-04-07T16:21:56+00:00

I was like 330ng/dL. Naturally been on gear for about 7 months. It hasn’t changed my voice at all, I’m a bit more impulsive and less anxious. I’m more confident but that’s from looking better test alone isn’t going to make you more confident unless you were really low t to begin with. Definitely slept with more girls attribute that to looking better and being more impulsive. Sex drive is funny sometimes on blast it’s really high that after awhile it goes back to normal. Tren fucks with my sex drive either being super high or no sex drive at all. It’s certainly improved my life, it’s not magic alpha male juice like people think though but it will certainly help you feel better, recover, build more muscle, get stronger, etc.

redvelvet_oreo · 2020-04-07T16:23:21+00:00

No Homo but does gear have any effect on cock sizes and girth?

Some guys in porn are clearly on steroids and have these beefed up muscular dicks. Im just curious if that has an effect.

Im askin for science haha.

BruhMoment45886 · 2020-04-07T17:45:08+00:00

They shrank my pp. My pp is tiny now.

Hopkite · 2020-04-07T17:37:12+00:00

On gear you’ll likely start losing a lot of hair, and eventually go bald (if you’re predisposed to it). Not to mention shrinking balls. Most people here aren’t talking about the negatives, side effects aren’t worth it

MercyYouMercyMe · 2020-04-07T18:29:31+00:00

Better with women, more confidence, better body, more assertive, deeper voice, more charismatic, etc.

Steroids did not do this, it's all in your head. I bet if I gave you sugar pills and told you they were steroids you'd say the same thing.

Unless you're a professional body builder or athlete what's the fucking point? They do that shit for gold medals and checks, you're doing it for what, pussy? You can get jacked without that shit.

I followed Rich Piana for years then one day he collapsed in his bathroom and died. The end. He was like 45. nah i'm good.

e36masterrace · 2020-04-07T14:56:57+00:00

How do you guys even go about doing this

DonJuan_69 · 2020-04-07T14:16:14+00:00

Ive taken SARMS.

Confidence and bitches

SpiderAlpha33 · 2020-04-07T15:48:22+00:00

You can do all that by channelling energy. Practise Meditation and you won't need anabolic steroids to cultivate these qualities.

Just1515 · 2020-04-09T01:04:36+00:00

They can help, but not necessary. you can achieve it all without them. The drawbacks are too great imo. Once you start you best be committed for life for many reasons. It is extremely difficult to stop taking roids as they are mentally addictive. It's both hard to go back to natty gains, and apparently, natty hormone levels effecting the things yo describe if you are used to it only with them. Not only that, but there is a typical crash associated with it where even with a PCT you may be shutdown, or spend some months not producing any testosterone. So you have it compounded. Both crashing and not experience the gains and heighten confidence you are used to from roids, and not only do you not simply return to normal, you have sub level to 0 test.

One thing i would clarify: Please do not take them before age 25. They can be used healthy, and for the long term(the issues i describe are mostly the mental side effects) but taking steroids before your endocrine system has fully matured can have permanent effects which we are not entirely privy to yet. The bodies hormone system is complex. current theory suggests that males taking them before 25 the age of full maturation of this system, can be trapped in a less developed state for life. Ie, your endocrine system will be stalled out at incomplete state, making you think more like a 20 year old rather than a fully matured adult forever. Not to say experience doesn't effect a person, but the point still stands. You had a different way of thinking at 16 not just due to experience, but due to this endocrine system. Obviously the very real risk of impotency is ALWAYS UNDER STATED too. It's there.

Also, I can't realistically make a case for someone taking them under 25 other than insecurity. There is simply no need before that age.

This is why I think they are good and can be used in a healthy way for plenty(not all) but you better be ready to take these for the rest of your life. you will never stop. It's too difficult to stop. You better be living a stable life, not plan to travel much, and not plan to move countries etc. If you start young, its a bigger commitment for sure too, with more risk of complications as you take them for longer periods (heart hypertrophy, blood pressure issues, etc) but most of those side effects are manageable.

Folknust · 2020-04-07T17:55:01+00:00

Don’t do steroids. It’s better to do it naturally because you’ll feel like you actually accomplished something, therefore increasing your confidence.

TreatYouLikeAQuean · 2020-04-07T16:42:23+00:00

Probably a dangerous idea to float around to inexperienced guys here but at the end of the day I don't care what other people put in their bodies. I do believe you should do at least 6 months of research into anabolics before starting and I do believe a guy should train at least 3 years before starting. I also believe in bioidentical use only (aka only using Test) because side effects of AAS are so much more severe once moving away from Test. Example: What's the healthiest way to treat insomnia? Melatonin. It's bioidentical. Once a person starts using things like alprazolam or trazodone, they have physiological consequences.

I recently started TRT, dosing about 140-175 mg per week. I do daily subQ injections. I believe ED protocol or EoD is a must if you want to optimize your TRT. I did research through scientific papers/articles and frequenting the steroids subreddit for about 1.5 years before starting.

I was already a fairly advanced lifter. I am into bodybuilding tho and not powerlifting. I was actually perfectly content with my physique and started T for the mental benefits mostly.

So far, I've shot up in weight w/o any bloat or water retention according to the mirror. It's funny because within a few weeks my weight was just a couple pounds under my goal weight to be at for end of 2020 (when I was assuming I'd stay natural).

But to really say why I started, the decision was 80% for mental and 20% for physique benefit. Regarding the physique, I've trained for 4+ years and was at the point where I was eating an aggressive amount of food and the scale wasn't budging. It didn't help my T levels were on the low side (but not truly hypogonadal). I honestly feel like injecting T is possibly a healthier route for me because I am literally eating less food and putting on muscle more efficiently.

If we're talking about longevity, calorie restriction is the number one proven method. So, T allows me to achieve my physique goals without gorging food all the time.

As far as the mental effects, I think things have started to change but it's hard to say as it's very subtle. I certainly don't feel like a god as guys on the steroids subreddit claim T makes them feel.

I do have a gf and libido was never a problem for me; however, libido has definitely increased and I do notice myself acting differently sometimes.

So far it's been interesting and I'm sure I will notice more changes as time goes on.

What about you OP? What's your background and protocol like?

burnerkidtalin · 2020-04-07T15:32:12+00:00

Man I been trying to get on gear, how do I even get ahold of it though

SAddy97 · 2020-04-07T15:46:19+00:00

Muscle insertions and low body fat are the most appealing part of s physique which are all genetics

Synthol_deadlift · 2020-04-07T20:24:38+00:00

how do you people even go about GETTING these things ?

Can't do shit here in europe

Snowboard18 · 2020-04-08T02:46:55+00:00

They can definatly help with your physique and confidence, but you better be damn 100% sure what you are doing. I made this mistake when I tried a sarm cycle, ended up suppressing my testosterone because the sarms subreddit said you don’t need a pct for sarms and that they arnt very suppressive. Ended up depressed for like 2 whole months until I found a pct.

Lesson learned, don’t think what people say on reddit is 100% correct, do your own extensive research or consult with a coach and doctor.

muckibudenbrudi · 2020-04-08T07:38:26+00:00

Do you cycle or take it year round? May I ask how much it costs you each month?

I am lifting for about 6 years now without breaks, doing powerlifting since the beginning and bodybuilding since about 2-3 years. Went from obesity to <10% bodyfat in summer 2019. Totalling over 500kg right now and thinking about hopping on gear myself in 1-2 years maybe.

Indeed_Me · 2020-04-08T11:14:15+00:00

I'm juicing for over 1 year and it's completely changed my life for better, MUCH better. I'm 23 now and before I decided to take stuff, I was that skinny, shy and not very attractive kid and beta af. Then I started lifting 5 times a week as I started my first cycle. In just 3 months I was about twice my size (again, I was really skinny) my confidence increased, I felt more alive durring the day, I was able to eat more food and stopped to give a shit about what do girls actually say and think about me. After half a year I was getting IOI from girls randomly when walking the street with my buddies at night around clubs. Also helped me to grow decent beard which I already gave up on I will ever have. Hah On the other hand, I became also way more in rage and get angry easier than before which made me to get in two bad fights. Acne on my backs became as bad as in ma early teens. Still, going on gear I consider the best decision in my life. It made me completely diferent person.

Delicious_Knowledge · 2020-04-08T16:01:58+00:00

Blast and cruise here. I haven't noticed a personality change myself but some of my home girls say I'm more macho now.

le_wolfe · 2020-04-08T18:08:29+00:00

Seeing this thread blowing up lol.

How many of these people even legit know about pros and cons of running gear?

DTron2332 · 2020-04-17T00:53:55+00:00

I think anabolics generally help with being alpha but it’s more the mental side of things like with confidence and overall swagger than the actual physical gains. You can get all the size you’d ever need to impress any woman naturally. What you want to do is be good at what you do, aim to be the best at what you do. Winners are alpha. Losers are not. Steroids can help boost your probability of success in pretty much any physical discipline but it’s not guarantee.

A comparison I’ve used before is this: A shitty low level bodybuilder isn’t going to be more impressive to a woman than an Olympic sprinter for example. The bodybuilder will be bigger, stronger, and more aesthetic, but the sprinter will have a decent level of musculature that looks natural (even though most are on PEDs as well lol) on top of being the best of the best. I’m sure all the top guys in any sport are having similar amounts of success with women despite differences in physiques and appearances. Being a winner matters more than any other variable imo.

You said you wanted to be up there with Arnold, which means you’ve already got the right mindset and it’s probably that ambition rubbing off on other facets of your life that’s helping you with women more than anything. Roids are just part of it.

redlurker9 · 2020-04-07T14:30:13+00:00

Not on roids, but started TRT a week ago, 250mg test E per 3 weeks. It's low, but my doc wanna see how I react first before going all guns blazing at 200 a week like most guys on TRT. 33yo, just been diagnosed with hypogonadism. No wonder why it was so hard for me to build fucking muscle. No effects so far, besides being angry at the universe, but I think that's just because of the virus.

aegeaorgnqergerh · 2020-04-08T18:49:55+00:00

Yes. Suffered dreadfully with panic attacks and general anxiety, basically saved my life.

Confidence and general self-assertion is miles better though, but I never had poor confidence with women.

Worth noting I get rejected all the time, but it's because I'm ugly. I am fixing this though with surgery.

As for the drawbacks - none I can think of particularly. High libido is a feature, but not something I'd complain about. Just knock one out, it isn't going to kill you. Not being able to control your temper shouldn't be an issue. It can rarely be a problem if you're using Tren, but in general you should just work on anger management. Same for being condescending.

OPs_Real_Mom · 2020-04-08T21:34:54+00:00

I want to hop on test when my natural T levels decrease when I hit 40.

BurntYams · 2020-04-07T20:02:45+00:00

This might be taboo to ask but honestly, where do people get steroids consistently? Some drug dealer? what’s the process. How do you know your health is not deteriorating?

Been thinking on hoping on gear myself. Just T

Sometimes I think about SARMS

2020-04-07T22:12:53+00:00

After 20 years in the gym and having kids I started up trt+ with the help of an open minded dr and I can say it's given me a huge edge in my everyday life. I waited too long and really put allot of unnecessary training miles on my body just chasing things naturally. I am a top tier athlete genetically so I can only imagine if I would have been on the sauce in my prime.

wtfdoiaskfor1 · 2020-04-07T17:06:07+00:00

600mg test E/week gang here.

Women fuckin' smell it, like literally. I can elaborate on this if you want.

Confidence, body control, voice, charisma, all skyrocket. Suddenly I'm walking like a god, can't shake me for shit. Zero neuroticism.

whiffofass · 2020-04-07T19:56:28+00:00

Testosterone is the closest thing to a cheat code in life. I love hormones. They completely transformed my life for the better. I wish I had started earlier then 24.

chito12345 · 2020-04-07T15:52:18+00:00

To everyone on here. How do you get steroids?

Schroder8823 · 2020-04-07T14:35:44+00:00

Gear is a requirement once you're over 25 as far as I am concerned. You just blow all of your potential competition out of the water, you become more confident, and there are little drawbacks.

FatGirlsInPartyHats · 2020-04-07T16:23:02+00:00

Someone make a post somewhere about how to begin already. Everyone's wondering where and how to start.

SIR_SKINNYPENIS69 · 2020-04-07T14:41:29+00:00

Could someone link some decent test products?

Title	Anyone else here on gear?
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