Ltr gets kissed

Auvergnat · 2017-07-17T10:37:20+00:00

Tell her you'll deal with it when she's back.

When she's back, you'll get the trickle truth.

In the meantime, prepare yourself mentally for jumping off the cheating ship.

BlackMisc · 2017-07-17T09:53:37+00:00

Woman usually trickle the truth in small drops before they plunge the bucket at you. probably already riding chads dick over there be warned.

RedPillFusion · 2017-07-17T11:29:06+00:00

Hate to break it to you, but there is exactly zero chance she wasn't a willing participant. Deception detection 101 - is the subject's response in alignment? Do the words, the story, the emotion, the context all fit together? The answer in your case is resoundingly "no".

Try this exercise. Imagine this scenario her words have provided playing out. Now picture what a natural authentic response might look like.

After that, imagine a scenario where everything else is the same except she was a willing participant. Now imagine what a natural authentic response might look like.

Which fits better?

Colt42O · 2017-07-17T12:01:22+00:00

I've had an ex tell me a guy "tried" to kiss her and she stopped him, but after more questions from me she finally caves and reveals they had sex at her place. Trickle truth is very real

VasiliyZaitzev · 2017-07-17T14:34:20+00:00

this guy came up and started kissing her.

LOL. They didn't really fuck either, he just slipped on a banana peel and stuck his cock in there by accident.

Srsly, who was this guy? The kissing bandit? You're not getting the whole truth.

JinSantosAndria · 2017-07-17T09:48:36+00:00

Look at what she does, not what she says. If he forced himself on your powerless GF she would be enraged and her friends would be aswell. Hysterical crying isnt the natural reaction of a person that has no guilt in the matter. Maybe she got pressured to tell you "something" before another girl tells you. Maybe there are photos of stuff that requires this story.

But well... she wanted to get exposed with her girlfriends, what other reason would there be for a five day women-only trip. She got what she wanted but it wasnt what she expected.

mrpthrowa · 2017-07-17T10:33:29+00:00

this could be genuine remorse.

or it could be the start of trickle truth.

Understand that very few people just go up to a girl and start kissing her without ample IOIs and stuff like that.

Why is she sorry? because she's done something bad, and she's framing it as an accident/she was forced etc (of course).

to be fair to her, you should make a mental note of this and in your mind downgrade her to plate.

DO NOT TALK ABOUT THIS INCIDENT.

Have her prove herself to you.

women are terrible at keeping secrets and she'll probably slip a few more truths. Her hamster won't be able to contain it.

If she talks about him again (either negative or positive) it is a bad sign.

Be prepared to stop the LTR completely or ghost her.

Also LTRs don't go on girls only travel plans or whatever and go out to clubs where they can get "accidentally" kissed.

mallardcove · 2017-07-17T13:37:03+00:00

If you stay with her, you are a grade A beta loser with no balls.

SkorchZang · 2017-07-17T12:14:28+00:00

That's adorable. The famous female trickle-truth in action.

The best way to respond to this is with no answers whatsoever. Act like you never got her messages, let her go crazy for 2 days.

When she's back, be sweet. Thank her for being truthful with you, then you say you wanna be truthful too, and in fact while she was gone you met someone. And it's not that you're abandoning her, you just don't think exclusivity would be right, or fair to either of you right now, so why don't the two of you try friends with benefits?

Avoid showing any interest whatsoever in her story about the guy, about how she fought him, how much she cried, etc. Don't ask for any details or clarifications. Act like you don't care because you're using it as a convenient excuse to bring up your own story about the new girl you met, which is the actual important event to you. Don't tell her anything about "new girl".

Guaranteed hamster overload this way, and she will stay obsessively interested in you while trying to fight her way back into being your exclusive GF once more.

LordThunderbolt · 2017-07-17T15:10:55+00:00

She's lying. That's not the truth. Ask her where she was when it happened. Let's bet some money it wasn't at some coffee shop. She was out drinking and grinding on dudes at a club. Now ask yourself "Why would a girl in a relationship go to an environment that's fueled with alcohol and intense sexual tension. Nobody goes to the club to meditate. It's a sexual environment. You got here to drink and interact with the opposite sex. Why would an antelope willingly skip into a lion's den?

IF you have any faith in this sub and the material we practice you will listen to the following advice. Girls go on trips with their gfs to have fun and meet guys. They don't go to places for cultural enrichment or anything of substance. You can see that by their instagram, a bunch of pics food in restaurants or drinks in their hands, or posing next to a famous monument. Her crying is just a trick. If some guy actually kissed her out of nowhere she would be disgusted and would tell you about it with a tone of indignation and disgust in her voice. A woman's game is to feign weakness and helplessness so that you don't see her as a threat while she slithers her way to your neck with the killing blow. Somehow they're magically always victims. Like a helpless baby calf... But we RP men know better.

This exact story has been posted by countless others before you here. It's never the truth. Your only course of action is to cut your losses now. Believe me when I tell you this. Start seeing other girls, and demote your gf to permanent plate status.

fakeplastictrees87 · 2017-07-17T09:29:28+00:00

why did she go on 5 day trip with 3 single women? you knew what will happen, she knew as well.. only kiss? i doubt ..

GreenPiller · 2017-07-17T09:33:46+00:00

Why does she feel so guilty? The guy forced her right? Something is fishy can you screenshot the whole message?

Helpcalculus · 2017-07-17T12:23:54+00:00

Something similar happened to me in the past.

GF said she was going on a birthday party. I couldn't go because of work and said "sure, have fun." Later at night she comes crying to my place saying that she got pissed that I didn't ask her who's birthday it was or who would be there. This made her feel that I didn't give a shit about her. Now comes the ultimate hamster logic.

I wanted to test myself if I loved you or not, so I kissed a guy. Then I realized I do love you and now I'm crying like a little bitch as it wasn't my fault.

I treated her as a plate for ~3 more months. Once I got bored, I dumped her.

askmrcia · 2017-07-17T18:14:36+00:00

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Whisper · 2017-07-17T16:29:54+00:00

Why are you allowing her to travel with just her girlfriends and not you? That is prime situational cheating territory right there.
Is she in the habit of apologizing for random shit that's not her fault? If not, why is she starting now? Is there something she hasn't told you?

BusterVadge · 2017-07-17T12:22:58+00:00

This is classic "Holy shit, what if he finds out" type of behavior. These sort of things happen a LOT during "all girls trips". She shouldn't have put herself in that situation at all if she cares about you

Braaaaaapp · 2017-07-17T15:26:46+00:00

She's trickle truthing, first thing she says is that he kissed her and then she tried fending him off, then when you press more she'll say she tried it for a little bit but didn't like it, eventually you'll get to the fact that he put it in her ass or something.

RedditinToronto · 2017-07-17T14:31:55+00:00

Look at this from your perspective. If a girl came up from behind you and kissed you and you pushed her off, why would you say sorry or make a big deal out of it? Something doesn't add up. She could be trying to make you jealous and if so she deserves a soft next just for that (unless someone really did force themselves on her). Asking her friends won't help (hoes before bros). Bottom line no one would be apologizing for getting harassed. There's an indicator of guilt in this one.

walawalawa · 2017-07-17T15:44:30+00:00

I've been through variations of this.

My ltr is on a 5 day trip with three girlfriends.

Bad sign...

Yesterday she sends me a message that this guy came up and started kissing her.

When was the last time you were out and you just suddenly started doing this to a random girl in a bar? A guy without any social calibration and game would do this...it's called molestation. She's holding back some important details. Put yourself in this position...would you just suddenly escalate? No...you'd be talking, the girl would be giving IOI's, you'd find a way to kiss her and if she turned her head you wouldn't just "Come up" and "Start Kissing"

She pushed him off

Probably

and started crying hysterically.

Here's where the story takes an even more bizarre twist. Did she call the police? Were her girlfriends peeling this monster off her?

I've been in enough of these situations to know when i'm being played. You're being played here.

Here's what happened; she was at a bar...dressed hot, her girlfriends were out dancing...some random dude came over...started talking to her, possibly had or bought her a drink...they may have danced and as it got late he made a move and she pushed him away and then felt a wave of guilt. So she texted you.

The rationalization of this is to make it sound like she had nothing to do with it.

Did it happen? Is it a shit test?

You have to calibrate your response carefully. Listen...don't judge...then say:

"Ok, I need some time to think about this...." and disappear for a week or so.

Watch her reaction. Is this the reaction of someone who is feeling guilty or who truly thinks you're an uncaring asshole.

If she starts calling you all sorts of names---pretty good chance she's not quite as innocent as she makes herself out to be.

max_peenor · 2017-07-17T17:12:26+00:00

If that is what actually happened to the letter, she would have had a friend tell you too so you could all be indignant together.

Women aren't stupid.

LordThunderbolt · 2017-07-17T15:19:29+00:00

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jay_jay_man · 2017-07-17T13:21:07+00:00

Observe how she behaves when she comes back. If she's cold and distant, best believe she fell in-love with another cock.

jkmonkey94 · 2017-07-17T16:38:21+00:00

She probably going giving you some of the truth. Some guy might had kissed her, but i doubt she pushed him away the first second it happened. She probably let it go on for a couple seconds, remembered she had a boyfriend and felt bad, or even worse slept with him.

askmrcia · 2017-07-17T16:44:29+00:00

Maybe I'm wrong, but since when do guys walk up to random girls in the middle of a bar and just start making out with them? I guess maybe if the dude is blacked out or something, but I've honestly never seen this happen at any bar or club I've ever been at

creepyThrowawayP · 2017-07-17T22:51:11+00:00

Oh don't worry OP, it was probably the kissing-bandit, what a world we live in!

She sucked his cock, got fucked in the ass, shat it on the flor, licked it, swallowed and then in the morning she cried uncontrollably because she was raped.

chachaChad · 2017-07-17T13:29:33+00:00

Hang on. This is one case where, from the sound of it, she told you when she didn't have and that takes guts on her part. I think you really have to evaluate her other behavior.

I'm not ready to say she cheated on you. I think she was out with single friends and something fucked up happened and she knew it was fucked up and TOLD YOU even when she could have chosen a thousand other ways to hide it. Her behavior suggests to me that she was really upset by this and that it meant. It's possible she got a little horny and let this happen then realized what the consequences where and freaked out.

Look... you're never going to be with a hot girl without other guys approaching. If she's attractive AT ALL, she's getting dick offered to her all the time. She can't help that. It's how she handles it that matters. You know guys do fucked up stuff to approach girls all the time and you know that people don't always know the exact right way to handle things when shit goes bad.

I would talk to her when she comes but with a firm but understanding tone. Something fucked up happened. Don't let that go. Tell her you expect her to be totally truthful from the beginning and you don't have any tolerance for "stories".

GunnarX · 2017-07-17T15:03:37+00:00

Downgrade to plate at best.

zboo1h · 2017-07-17T17:50:39+00:00

She at least blew some dude. Begin scrubbing her from your life.

fuck-fuck-fuck-fuck- · 2017-07-17T19:03:25+00:00

My ltr is on a 5 day trip with three girlfriends.

Sadly, stories that start this way never end well.

Yesterday she sends me a message that this guy came up and started kissing her.

This is possible but not probable. I personally know guys who like to push their tongues into girls' mouths, so it's not unheard of, but it's not highly common, either.

She pushed him off and started crying hysterically.

I don't believe this. Most girls claim "HE KISSED ME," yet for some inexplicable reason, they had no problem massaging the guy's tongue with their own.

Should I feel like I've been cheated on and she's in the wrong or just a sad accident?

99% of the time, there are no "sad accidents." It's unlikely you're the 1%, but not impossible.

Pillredpopper · 2017-07-18T03:34:36+00:00

Man its going to be a next most likely. A little personal experience, I can say I've been randomly kiss attacked, only once ever and probably the only time it will ever happen, I think she thought I was someone else. I Was in a bar, and was definitely shit hammered, reflexes were probably 50% of normal, I still managed to avoid it even only catching the movement towards me out of the corner of my eye and I was, tbh, pretty drunk. If she was kissed, she was close enough to be kissed. Adding in the fact she was on a trip with 3 GF's, well you can see I'm where I'm going with this, or maybe they saw it and she's trying to cover her tracks.

As others have stated, there is definatley some trickle truth here you have yet to find out. She is hamstering away the guilt, re-writing the scene in her mind. To boot, if both her friends are single, you can be pretty sure it's 100% she ran around on you, as they would be encouraging this behavior. She may try and rally her friends to her side to make you convinced, be wary.

Not sure how long the LTR is, but she is going to play the victim in an attempt to garner pity. Don't fall for it. She may cry, wail and moan when you break it off, but these are simply tools to make you feel sympathy and join in her cause of victimhood. Be smart.

Andorli · 2017-07-18T06:10:57+00:00

Why do you even let your LTR of 5 years to go on a trip with her "three girlfriends" without you? How can you even think that it is a good idea for her to go on trip without you? Unless it is business trip but does not sound like it from your text.

overcomplicate · 2017-07-17T13:40:31+00:00

It's definitely possible she's telling you a little bit of the truth and there's actually a lot more to the story, like others are saying, but it's also possible that what she said is exactly what happened. You have no way of knowing that though

jamasun · 2017-07-17T17:00:33+00:00

Don't be so quick to render judgment. Casually bring it up when she comes back without hinting suspicion. If she was an active participant you'll hear the truth come out bit by bit. If she's hiding anything, break up and rip off the bandaid.

Some are saying she's guilty because she was crying. Women with low self esteem will immediately blame themselves for something like this. A lot of TRPers deal in generalities and bring in their biases from past women and spend a fair amount of time mentally masturbating to everyone elses post on here, you know this. We hardly know anything about your girl's personality or her friends so we can't hand out a fair analysis. I have seen for myself a man kissing a woman on the street then running away afterwards, while probably a rare occurrence it's also why I'm leaning back on this. GL

creepyThrowawayP · 2017-07-17T22:49:56+00:00

OP please post update.

Throwawaysteve123456 · 2017-07-18T03:26:16+00:00

If a guy just did that out of nowhere without context, the police would be called. She's describing it as if he went up and just grabbed her against her will. Sounds like a trickle truth.

creepyThrowawayP · 2017-07-20T19:19:41+00:00

OP I have read your last post and this was a fit of beta rage, you got laid to get even instead of for yourself.

cirrusice · 2017-07-17T11:16:51+00:00

Is this in USA? Just curious.

[deleted] · 2017-07-17T16:33:26+00:00

Help me out fellow red pillers

LOL That's funny.

She's not yours, it's just your turn, if you were spinning plates this never would have happened.

mrobvioustr · 2017-07-17T12:08:11+00:00

it is obviously a sexual harrassment. when people get treated like this, they might show shock reactions like "hysterically crying".

do not be that much hard on your gf.

Title	Ltr gets kissed
Author	aaronjohnshon
Upvotes	37
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Date	July 17, 2017 9:19 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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