Watchdog: American Troops say they were told to ignore Afghan child sex abuse if it was a boy being abused. "Bacha bazi" Deemed to "cultural".

TheAngryBird03 · 2017-11-17T14:45:03+00:00

This was not just in the US Army, the British Army also knew about it and although I can't say they asked soldiers to turn a blind eye there were always plenty of stories about it happening

AlcoholicAsianJesus · 2017-11-17T16:33:49+00:00

...this is an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on Bacha bazi.

In a 2013 Vice Media, Inc. documentary titled "This Is What Winning Looks Like", British independent film-maker Ben Anderson describes the systematic kidnapping, sexual enslavement and murder of young men and boys by local security forces in the Afghan city of Sangin. The film depicts several scenes of Anderson along with American military personal describing how difficult it is to work with the Afghan police considering the blatant molestation and rape of local youth. The documentary also contains footage of an American military advisor confronting the then-acting Police Chief on the abuse after a young boy is shot in the leg after trying to escape a police barrack. When the Marine suggests that the barracks be searched for children, and that any policeman found to be engaged in pedophilia be arrested and jailed, the high-ranking officer insists what occurs between the security forces and the boys is consensual, saying "[the boys] like being there and giving their asses at night." He went on to claim that this practice was historic and necessary. "If [my commanders] don't fuck the asses of those boys, what should they fuck? The pussies of their own Grandmothers?"

turbulance4 · 2017-11-17T17:55:01+00:00

I was in Afghanistan, for a little over 6 months. It was obvious that sexual abuse (boy, girl, child, and adult) was a systemic and rampant problem in their culture. However I was never told to turn a blind eye, nor instructed to act any differently if the victim was male or female.

That been said, I suppose one could say I did "turn a blind eye" of sorts. Not that I pretended it didn't exist, but there was literally nothing I could do about it.

LongTrang117 · 2017-11-17T15:04:24+00:00

This is old news to anybody who was over there or has friends/family who have served over there.

jeegte12 · 2017-11-17T17:06:24+00:00

And we wonder why boys in that culture grow up into fucked up adults.

J-Unleashed · 2017-11-17T19:56:53+00:00

Former U.S. Army Soldier here.

I was served in Iraq (08-09) and Afghanistan (10-11).

If you only knew the scandals covered up by units in regards to sexual abuse in boys.

When I was in Afghanistan, an E-6 from the our brother company was found doing some sick shit to an Afghan boy. The incident was completely swept under the rug, and never reported formally other than word of mouth.

He ended up being transferred to my company, but it didn't take long for us to find out why. He was caught trying something again not long after, and again swept under the rug.

Hell, during my first deployment, we had to provide a patrol element for security of a circumcision ceremony. So, I guess it isn't all that surprising now that I think about it.

wolf6152ag · 2017-11-17T18:25:38+00:00

We were told to ignore this shit in Iraq and Afghanistan too.

NrthnMonkey · 2017-11-17T17:24:13+00:00

I cannot remember which because there have been a few, but one Ask Reddit thread where people who served in Afghanistan and Iraq were posting experiences, this came up.a.lot

adamdavid85 · 2017-11-17T13:20:40+00:00

My comment is nested in there about how the justifications for continuing the practice are largely made by adult men who were themselves subjected to it are very similar to American men with regard to circumcision. I’m sure you can all anticipate the reaction.

heyltsben · 2017-11-17T15:07:06+00:00

Anyone remember the red sharpie on the hands? We all knew what it meant.

Sloth_Hasselhoff · 2017-11-17T17:47:44+00:00

This is why people shouldn't be allowed to migrate into western nations from areas of the world with cultures that are barbaric and evil. Not all cultures are beautiful or equal.

superhobo666 · 2017-11-17T19:02:57+00:00

This isn't exclusive to the US military either. People I knew from the Canadian military had to deal with that shit too. There were soldiers who got kicked out for intervening.

If this child molesting horse shit is cultural I don't understand why we are allowing people from a culture that celebrates child rape into western countries that ban any sort of sexual contact with children.

Lallo-the-Long · 2017-11-17T19:28:13+00:00

I remember watching a short video following a commander around Afghanistan to see what problems remain. This was a big one, and one the guy didn't see getting solved.

amendment64 · 2017-11-17T23:43:47+00:00

Why the fuck are we wasting all this money and sacrificing lives for this bullshit then? Why can't we remove the military presence here entirely and just let them do what they want with their shithole?

2017-11-18T00:30:43+00:00

But it is cultural...

2017-11-18T02:08:14+00:00

Fuck this backwards disgusting culture. I’m tired I’m being told how wonderful and peaceful it is.

fluidlogicly · 2017-11-17T21:02:30+00:00

Muslims love young boys

moorethanafeeling · 2017-11-17T23:07:56+00:00

I was in Afghanistan in 2011-2012. We were never told to ignore it. We knew it was happening. Nobody was cool with it, but everyone just accepted it as part of their backwards culture. They did a lot of things we weren't cool with.

hartmann42 · 2017-11-17T23:20:55+00:00

So it's only "cultural" when non-white people do it?

Thuban · 2017-11-18T01:57:15+00:00

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/30/us/green-beret-who-beat-up-afghan-officer-for-raping-boy-can-stay-in-army.html

Basedncased · 2017-11-18T02:38:56+00:00

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

2017-11-18T02:52:25+00:00

It's the same thing going on in europe, they won't discuss arabic rape culture because it means accepting the fact people from those countries aren't compatible with our values.

zombi-roboto · 2017-11-18T03:00:10+00:00

Just because it's "cultural" does not make it okay. How is this even a thing?

mydikishomofobik · 2017-11-18T13:20:25+00:00

In Afghanistan and other gender segregated cultures (like Ancient Greece) men have limited access to women for sex. So they fuck boys instead. Their societies are obsessed with maintaining women's sexual purity, but they don't seem to give a shit about boys getting ass-raped. Come to think of it, that's somewhat similar to western culture.

2017-11-17T23:21:36+00:00

What the fuck

DMCA_OVERLOAD · 2017-11-17T14:58:05+00:00

Sometimes you have to make trades. We couldn't risk damaging our relationship with the government and we sure as shit couldn't change their culture. What the fuck were we supposed to do? Beat the shit out of General Officers who we knew were diddling little boys?

JohnnySkidmarx · 2017-11-18T00:15:34+00:00

A little of both. Not purposely being a dick a few times, just telling people things that “hurt their feelings”. Mods banned me.

mwobuddy · 2017-11-17T12:50:34+00:00

If you've read the stories, you know this is what child rape really looks like. Instead of the usual parade of hot teachers fucking students who are horny, its unwilling boys being force fucked.

2017-11-17T22:11:32+00:00

Also in news, people can fly in things called airplanes.

Title	Watchdog: American Troops say they were told to ignore Afghan child sex abuse if it was a boy being abused. "Bacha bazi" Deemed to "cultural".
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Date	November 17, 2017 12:22 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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