I can't find anything that says that, in that article or anywhere else.
There's an important distinction to be made when throwing these numbers around. A false allegation doesn't necessarily mean the allegation was proven false. Most rape cases end in plea bargains, which are inconclusive. That's why you cant throw number around. That's where the 2% comes from, proven false cases. That's where people are getting 20 and 30% too, cases where the allegation was not proven true.
Anyway, I was just wondering if you had a source on that actual case, not the aftermath or book drama or whatever.
Is there something that actually addresses the issue here? I don't really want to read all the way through all of these for something. It would be easier to just "source-bomb" you back. But the point is that, in order for the statistic to be relevant, we have to consider what the truth is in cases that don't end in a verdict. We have to consider rape cases where the perpetrator is someone different from the accused (the cases when DNA evidence match someone else). The cases where the accused is found not guilty, but not proven innocent. All these things are part of the way these numbers are hard to calculate. You claim its even harder than that, but then actually decide on an arbitrary statistic. I'm saying the number is impossible to calculate reliably in a way that's relevant to the discussion.
You know what's sad? The reality is the vast majority of rape accusations are false and no one has the balls to say so. No one. Well, except me of course.
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I can't find anything that says that, in that article or anywhere else.
There's an important distinction to be made when throwing these numbers around. A false allegation doesn't necessarily mean the allegation was proven false. Most rape cases end in plea bargains, which are inconclusive. That's why you cant throw number around. That's where the 2% comes from, proven false cases. That's where people are getting 20 and 30% too, cases where the allegation was not proven true.
Anyway, I was just wondering if you had a source on that actual case, not the aftermath or book drama or whatever.
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Is there something that actually addresses the issue here? I don't really want to read all the way through all of these for something. It would be easier to just "source-bomb" you back. But the point is that, in order for the statistic to be relevant, we have to consider what the truth is in cases that don't end in a verdict. We have to consider rape cases where the perpetrator is someone different from the accused (the cases when DNA evidence match someone else). The cases where the accused is found not guilty, but not proven innocent. All these things are part of the way these numbers are hard to calculate. You claim its even harder than that, but then actually decide on an arbitrary statistic. I'm saying the number is impossible to calculate reliably in a way that's relevant to the discussion.
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You're saying that up to half of all rape victims willingly admitted to completely fabricating it?
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Pretty sure the conviction rate isn't 97%.
You know what's sad? The reality is the vast majority of rape accusations are false and no one has the balls to say so. No one. Well, except me of course.
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Rape isn't a special you're guilty until your proven innocent crime. Everyone forgets that.
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