People ignore these statistics every year as they perpetuate the myth of the patriarchy. Yet they solemnly mourn Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington while still refusing to look at the bigger picture.

interstate-15 · 2017-07-20T22:23:55+00:00

There's a suicide issue among men, has been and it will only get worse until we want to have a serious discussion about it.

There is no discussion, because no one wants to do anything about it. In the end, most men have no one to turn to and no one gives a fuck about middle aged men who "can't man up". Once your parents are gone, seriously only you can take care of yourself. There isn't people wanting to lend a hand or take care of you, like the majority of women get.

Both of these people had good lives, plenty of money and fame. Lots of friends and family, still I'm betting they felt like they had no one to turn to.

Mairi- · 2017-07-21T02:44:01+00:00

Part of the problem in my experience is that suicide in men isn't handled even remotely properly. I had an experience two years ago where the police were tipped off by a friend who was concerned that I might harm myself. The police arrived and I was thrown in handcuffs, taken barefoot and in pajamas to a mental healthcare facility where I had to wait for hours in handcuffs in the back of a police car being told I'm not "under arrest". Eventually a psych arrived, I was "evaluated" by which I mean I was asked about 3 leading questions then told to wait for a few more hours and judged by somebody that knows nothing about me to be mentally unstable. I was kept up all night by underpaid and unappreciative nurses grumpy to have to deal with my shit when I didn't want to be in the situation any more than they did. Confidentiality was entirely ignored of course since I am in the military only "essential personnel" were informed. Everybody. Everybody and their mother at the command wanted to "help", and by "help", I mean complete strangers wanted to pull me aside at work and waste my time so they could get a counseling bullet on their eval. The whole situation caused more depression and anxiety than I started with. All of my personal problems were laid bare for hundreds of strangers to pick through and judge. Medical professionals made it clear that they were there to get through the paper work, not to help.

This is the expectation that many men expect if they try to seek help, and sadly the expectation is based in reality because it actually happens. Discretion and care are absolutely essential. Without those two things, it is an absolute shitshow. I've had a DUI, and I can honestly say that the treatment I received from suicidal thoughts was worse than an actual crime.

Sks44 · 2017-07-21T02:39:29+00:00

Chester Bennington has mentioned that he was abused as a kid and that's one of the driving forces of his depression. 1 in 6 boys is a abused sexually according to an article in Psychology Today. Men are 3.5x more likely to commit suicide. The media doesn't give a damn.

Badgerz92 · 2017-07-21T00:52:34+00:00

I've seen so many feminists on my newsfeed claiming to feel sad about the suicide of Chester when those same feminists tell us to check our privilege whenever we try to discuss men's issues like suicide.

unbelievablepeople · 2017-07-20T23:33:50+00:00

My heart breaks for Chris Cornell, Chester Bennington and the 33,000 other American men who commit suicide each year. We men often think we can't reach out for help because we've been raised to believe that asking for help is a sign of weakness. In reality, asking for help is a sign of strength. It takes courage to admit that you're struggling so deeply with your life that you aren't sure it's worth living anymore. If you need help, please, seek it out.

AFuckYou · 2017-07-21T04:18:16+00:00

People don't care about men. Suicide among men is generally seen as a plus. Homelessness among men is seen as a non issue. Sorry guys.

2017-07-21T09:52:05+00:00

Can people stop associating depression with success or lack of. Both of these men had accomplished levels of success in their field that most can only dream of and yet here we are.

Depression is such a fucked up beast that it can strike anyone.

Terminal-Psychosis · 2017-07-21T06:04:10+00:00

They just had to throw that "firearms" crap in there and ruin it. :/

2017-07-21T16:02:45+00:00

I get it, my wife worries more about her problems and what I need to do to support her and could care less about my problems or sadness.

A good example that effected me was last week. Our dog, my daughters dog she got when she was three, was having a real bad problem. I took the dog to the vet and the diagnosis came back pretty bad. So on a Friday night I pick the dog up and was instructed that we need to keep a close eye on him, try to get him to eat, give him some med. However, my wife had set up a dinner date at a place with her friends. So when she showed up to my office after i picked up the dog she asked me if I still wanted to go. I told her no, I need to take care of the dog, and when told the dog could take a turn for the worse AKA DIE, I said that was more important to me. I'm not going to be out partying when the dog sits at home and dies, how would my daughter think about me if that happened? Anyways, she got mad, started yelling at me, crying, saying how I never want to do anything with her friends and do things she sets up because she doesn't do it very often all because I never want to go do shit with her friends, it was all my fault. Not once did she think about my fear of upsetting my daughter, or how I care of that dog and just want to comfort him while he is deathly sick.

I know it sounds stupid and petty, and should just "man up" suck it up and deal, but in this case with my business going to shit, and my dog going to shit, I'm having a rough time staying positive.

majortom22 · 2017-07-21T07:56:53+00:00

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chuuuch · 2017-07-21T02:32:27+00:00

Anyway I can get a source on this? I'm gonna share it with a friend and I know she'll ask for sources

SaiHottari · 2017-07-21T14:36:24+00:00

What purpose does it serve pointing out that half of suicides are done with a gun? That's only the case in the US where guns are common. You look anywhere with similar suicide rates and the mechanism changes to ingesting pesticide (China) or hanging (UK). The mechanism of suicide will always be the easiest form, that it is guns in the US is simply circumstancial.

Dnile1000BC · 2017-07-21T04:53:07+00:00

I would encourage all men to boycott, refrain from buying, participate in any entertainment, "educational" institution, business or product that hints at feminist virtue signalling.

It can't be good for your mental health to be told constantly that you are the monster that is source of all suffering in the world.

Boon_Backwards · 2017-07-21T00:32:53+00:00

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ReVaQ · 2017-07-21T09:33:50+00:00

Please do have a source to make this credible if you want people to trust those numbers. Also this is the wrong place if you want to reach out to those people this statistic was intended for.

2017-07-21T10:10:41+00:00

Suicide is already on the top 10 causes of death worldwide. Stuff to think about.

TheProstateAmbusher · 2017-07-21T11:10:07+00:00

OP this picture would be more credible if you linked the source.

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thebeefytaco · 2017-07-21T05:08:44+00:00

Suicide is more common for men in general. The only reason white men account for the majority is that the majority of people in the US are white.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Racial_and_ethnic_categories

Self-identified race	Percent of population
White	72.4%

pprstrt · 2017-07-21T04:54:37+00:00

OMG HE SAID FIREARMS, BAAAAAN THEM!MMM!!

Death_Bard · 2017-07-21T02:14:48+00:00

Why point out that guns are used in 50% of suicides? Preventing access to guns won't stop someone who's intent on taking their life.

Phiau · 2017-07-21T08:54:57+00:00

I can't afford the kind of GP that gives a shit.

Mine gives you a "what BS are you going to feel me" look.

It took a form where I ticked the "suicidal thoughts" for him to do anything (I was only there because my wife dragged me there).

What did they do? Referred me at half-price for 5 visits to a therapist that ran me through the usual mindfulness exercises.

Very long story short; after an entire 37 years of this shit, it took self-diagnosis with ASD (since officially confirmed by specialists) to even find the right solution.

It's not even band-aid level. 99.99% of "men's health" initiative are superficially applied rose-coloured glasses, slap on the back grade BS. The only genuinely helpful thing is genuine interest from a friend.

The pet idea is a really good one... Unless you don't like animals.

for_today · 2017-07-21T14:26:29+00:00

These are interesting facts. I would love to have a source so I could do some additional reading.

ElfmanLV · 2017-07-21T17:37:05+00:00

Devil's advocate but, is there some sort of correlation between being successful and suicidal tendencies? Middle aged white men of the first world are by and far at the highest risk for suicide, but also the demographic which tends to be the most successful and "privileged". (The word privileged used loosely, because most successful people are middle aged or older white men, but being white, old and male does not guarantee success.)

WildAnonymoose · 2017-07-21T05:18:29+00:00

I feel like pushing the white part of the statistic is slightly over kill when you consider that the majority of men in the us are white. But in general I definitely agree with op. The US male suicide rate is not discussed nearly as much as it should be l.

BrazenBull00R · 2017-07-21T09:52:04+00:00

You had to throw in that little tidbit about firearms, didn't ya? What a cop out.

Elopikseli · 2017-07-21T06:26:13+00:00

God bless america

TrollyMcCoxlong · 2017-07-21T13:08:23+00:00

I wonder why it is white-middle aged men who are committing suicide, when we are the most privileged group of people. Maybe it is because we've been demonized, and women are divorcing us at record levels, taking away children, completely devastating men.

ThatDamnedImp · 2017-07-21T17:56:40+00:00

Feminist redditors from all in particular seem to automatically decide a problem 'solved' if it only affects men, preferably white men.

Th3_Dark_Knight · 2017-07-21T14:58:52+00:00

Those points aren't mutually exclusive...you can have patriarchy and predominantly male suicide at the same time. There's 7 billion people on the planet.

HangryHipppo · 2017-07-21T10:02:55+00:00

Women attempt more.

Men complete more because they use more violent means typically, which are more successful.

haplogreenleaf · 2017-07-21T02:34:02+00:00

Fuck, his body is barely cold and you're standing on top of it to wave your flag. Maybe you should let his family bury him before you leverage a man's death to score dumbass internet points.

theninjallama · 2017-07-21T07:14:36+00:00

Except women attempt suicide much more than men, men are just much better at achieving it.

g_squidman · 2017-07-21T08:26:43+00:00

Ugh. I knew I'd see this here eventually. I really, really don't want to argue about this right now. Linkin Park has been my favorite band for a very long time.

Boon_Backwards · 2017-07-21T11:44:42+00:00

You fucking had to make it about white men?!

It feels like non white men are in better condition.

tehDemonseye · 2017-07-21T04:30:05+00:00

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