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Boys are more likely to be bullied online over their body image than girls, study finds

furchfur

May 21, 2017
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Title Boys are more likely to be bullied online over their body image than girls, study finds
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furchfur

Upvotes 2427
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Date May 21, 2017 1:45 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
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Comments

[–]PB_n_honey_taco 304 points305 points306 points 9 years ago* (50 children) | Copy Link

yep, pretty sure ok cupid did a study on like this once.

Women rate men uglier than men rate women.

http://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/files/2014/10/okc_rating_curve1.png

http://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/files/2014/10/okc_rating_curve.png

Edit: I suppose I should add that this doesn't automatically indicate that women are the ones who bully men more, rather that's women's perception of men is a lot lower then men's perception of women, which would lead someone to believe that perhaps it is the women who are shaming the men since there's a large correlation between women's perception of men and body shaming of men online. Based on previous studies that say that women significantly slut shame more than men do, I would say that this is probably the case. Does anyone else have any extra information?

[–]Akesgeroth 145 points146 points147 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

It's not that women are "shaming" men, it's that they're taught from a young age to "never settle for second", while men are taught to "not judge by appearance" and that it's abnormal to turn down sex. Those girls and boys grow into women and men, the former looking for a wealthy top model chemical engineer who could win comedy awards while also being the nicest person around and being incredible in bed while the latter think they're inferior if there's a woman they're not attracted to.

I'm exaggerating a bit to help illustrate my point, but in the end, that's pretty much what's going on.

[–]PB_n_honey_taco 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Those things are probably very large factors in determining these results

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points51 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Cough cough the core principle of The Red Pill... but people don't like to learn about scary things that can be more easily insulted in a comment thread.

[–]cuteman 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Bettering yourself, lifting, eating right, possibly building towards being a leader. Wild advice really.

[–]DatGrass14 44 points45 points46 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Even that's never enough

http://i.imgur.com/kvduKzy.jpg

[–]cuteman 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Even still, got to be the best you can be. There are things you can change and things you can't. Do you think Taylor Lautner gives a fuck what two random women on Facebook think?

Tom Cruise is also short as hell. Do you think he cares?

Cue gif of woody wiping tears with benjis

[–]Troy_And_Abed_In_The 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Do you think Taylor Lautner gives a fuck what two random women on Facebook think?

No, because he's probably gay, but your point still stands.

[–]blue_horse_shoe 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Is TC's height of 5'7" or 5'8" short as hell?

[–]Saerain 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Amazing what 3-4% can do.

[–]droden 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it happens on agents of shield. he even addresses it in character in the show - she wears heels which make her look taller but they are the same height.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually think The Red Pill documentary did the best job of defining the MRM terminology. MRM is advocating to change the "system" [of gender roles and dynamics between the two genders in our society both socially and legally], then on the other hand MGTOW advocate leaving the "system" altogether, while the Reddit-popularized TRP advocates how to use the current system and social structure to one's personal advantage in life. I think it's a pretty apt simplification of the terms.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Some guys act like if they can jump on TRP with insults quick enough in a comment thread that all the women watching will instantly want to thank him with sex.

[–]MehitsjustCharlie 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People don't look at TRP pragmatically enough. If you disregard the rhetoric behind some of their theorists, there's a lot of really sound advice for men to self improve... And not necessarily for the sake of women.

[–]cuteman 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only shallow lurkers. That's not what it's about.

[–]satisfyinghump 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I loved this comment, and unfortunately I feel that some times, especially lately with the rise in what they call "modern feminism", your description of the perfect man is right on point. The only info I'd add, is that the man must somehow behave both sensitively and even with feminim charm in those moments that warrant it, like going to a modern day feminism rally, populated with sjws, and behave in an alpha masculine alpha like behavioral pattern when the woman believes they should (although many times if they DO behave this way, too extremely or for too long, the woman will complain they are NOT warm or sensitive enough, and if they behave too emotionally or warmly, she will complain that he's behaving like a child or a little b*tch).

No matter what, the women typically do not know how they want men to treat them or how to behave themselves, which is no surprise, as women have access to even more avenues of input that put even more ideals in their minds, that prevent them from being able to be confident with just one choice, both for themselves and for who their partner should be.

It's really hard to not feel like putting on a tinfoil hat and believing that this is all being done on purpose in one way or another, to prevent happy relationships and happy confident people.

[–]TheBlackQuill 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah. I agree. How about teaching women not to judge guys for their looks instead? All women know is stating what they want, but they never say what they want to give in return.

[–]mwobuddy 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It's not that women are "shaming" men

its not that men are 'shaming' women by saying 'no fatties'.

[–]rafajafar 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Being fat is a sign of ... sunglasses... bigger issues.

[–]mwobuddy 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[–]Daktush 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wasn't there a study that showed women's perception of beauty was so skewed that they rated 80% of men as "under average looking"

Think there was, would need to google though

[–]ponchato 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That might have just been the data from the OkCupid survey.

The comparison I liked most is that if you took the chart for how women rate men and applied that distribution to intelligence, more than 2/3 of men would be considered mentally retarded.

[–]biff64gc 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This would explain why I never got responses... Bummer

[–]Ndvorsky 35 points36 points37 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

It's quite possible that men on dating sites actually are uglier but that doesn't mean the data is useless. It still has meaning it's worth finding out what that is.

[+]RedditEqualsLife points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Reddit once told me this rule:

  1. Be attractive
  2. Don't be unattractive

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]hdgfhdgfhgf 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's either from this or this is from that:

SNL w/ Tom Brady & Tina Fey, Fred Armisten Amy Pohler - Sexual Harassment in the Workplace

[–]PB_n_honey_taco 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Does objectivity matter in this case? All they're looking at his women's perception of men. If most women perceive most men to the uglier then most men perceive women to be, of course men are going to get bullied online more often than women will.

[–]Ndvorsky 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're absolutely right. I was just trying to avoid the appearance of saying the data was useless or starting an argument

[–]Ndvorsky 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's true but personally I think that when someone calls you ugly that it is different when you actually are ugly than if you weren't. It's still mean and could be bullying but I just think it's not quite the same.

In any case the question should be looked into.

[–]PB_n_honey_taco 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can beauty be objective, though?

[+]exadeci points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Aside from Tinder women are too but the ratios are usually 20% women to 80% men so for women the choice is so massive that they can be much more picky than usual.

[–]dadibom 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not about the number of candidates, but the match ratio.

[–]Helmet_Icicle 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

  1. Sample size would account for this.

  2. Subjective preferences would account for this, perhaps even more so.

  3. The corollary would be that the same women are also of a similar caliber, but that isn't reflected in the perceptions.

[–]Ndvorsky 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure what you mean. Sample size shows that either the data is meaningless or it's accurate. It won't allude at all to the cause.

They are intentionally measuring subjective preferences so I don't see what's accounting for what.

Do you mean that we should expect that men and women on dating sites be of equal attractiveness? I don't necessarily see why that must be true. Obviously they are pursuing the same thing but if the goals and motivations are different (they could be) then I would expect the people would also be different.

[–]Helmet_Icicle 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not sure what you mean. Sample size shows that either the data is meaningless or it's accurate. It won't allude at all to the cause.

Assuming a model of random distribution which you could build many times over given the huge and diverse populations of dating site users, there is nothing to suggest that men are any uglier than the average.

They are intentionally measuring subjective preferences so I don't see what's accounting for what.

If there are enough people to supply the most frequently sought after types of pulchritude, why is that not reflected in the findings?

Do you mean that we should expect that men and women on dating sites be of equal attractiveness? I don't necessarily see why that must be true. Obviously they are pursuing the same thing but if the goals and motivations are different (they could be) then I would expect the people would also be different.

Of course not, but so far into a baseless hypothetical like the one posed, for what reason would whatever is accounting for the perception of men's attractiveness not also apply for women's? If anything, one would assume the opposite.

[–]Ndvorsky 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Assuming a model of random distribution which you could build many times over given the huge and diverse populations of dating site users, there is nothing to suggest that men are any uglier than the average.

What does "assuming a model of random distribution" mean? The graphic/data we are discussing suggests that exact possibility. Why would you say nothing suggests it?

If there are enough people to supply the most frequently sought after types of pulchritude, why is that not reflected in the findings?

That word is ancient. Just say "beauty". We're on two different wavelengths here. I've got no idea what you're trying to say. Enough of which people? Are there enough, do we know that? Reflected how?

Of course not, but so far into a baseless hypothetical like the one posed, for what reason would whatever is accounting for the perception of men's attractiveness not also apply for women's? If anything, one would assume the opposite.

It's not baseless. The graphic literally shows that it is a good possibility. I don't know why you would assume the opposite. But it is well understood by this sub and society that men and women have different experiences of dating. Different experiences are an excellent reason to pursue different paths. This is just speculation it let me lay out a logical explanation. There is still some stigma against online dating. Men are the go-getters, they aren't supposed to need help finding women. Obviously they do use it so maybe only the most desperate (and likely unattractive) will take the chance and endure the stigma.

[–]Helmet_Icicle 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What does "assuming a model of random distribution" mean? The graphic/data we are discussing suggests that exact possibility. Why would you say nothing suggests it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_distribution

How do you arrive at that conclusion? How is it falsifiable? Nothing does suggest it.

That word is ancient. Just say "beauty". We're on two different wavelengths here. I've got no idea what you're trying to say. Enough of which people? Are there enough, do we know that? Reflected how?

No it's not, you're just not very educated.

Yes, we do know that. Google results give 15% of Americans. Do your own research.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/29/5-facts-about-online-dating/

http://www.eharmony.com/online-dating-statistics/

http://www.pewinternet.org/2016/02/11/15-percent-of-american-adults-have-used-online-dating-sites-or-mobile-dating-apps/

It's not baseless. The graphic literally shows that it is a good possibility.

No it doesn't. The graphic literally shows the data.

I don't know why you would assume the opposite.

The usual; no data in one corner, all the data in the other.

But it is well understood by this sub and society that men and women have different experiences of dating. Different experiences are an excellent reason to pursue different paths. This is just speculation it let me lay out a logical explanation. There is still some stigma against online dating. Men are the go-getters, they aren't supposed to need help finding women. Obviously they do use it so maybe only the most desperate (and likely unattractive) will take the chance and endure the stigma.

You obviously could sustain some interesting research:

https://theblog.okcupid.com/tagged/data

[–]Ndvorsky 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_distribution

Thanks for the link to something not related to what you were talking about. Nowhere did that mention a random probability distribution nor did it explain what you were trying to say.

How do you arrive at that conclusion? How is it falsifiable? Nothing does suggest it.

So a survey finds these men to be less attractive and you don't think that may suggest these men could be less attractive? How could you not consider it a possibility?

you're just not very educated

Really dude? That's uncalled for.

Yes, we do know that. Google results give 15% of Americans.

Thanks for not answering my questions. What part of "which people" and "reflected how" didn't you understand?

Do your own research.

I wasn't asking for citations. I was asking you to actually put a subject (and maybe some explanation and reasoning would be nice) in your sentences so I could tell what the hell you're talking about. You're being obtuse.

The usual; no data in one corner

We're looking at a graphic showing the men are rated as less attractive. That right there is evidence that the men are less attractive. Instead of looking for some convoluted system explaining why men and women rate each other differently, just go with Occam's razor and assume the data is accurate.

all the data in the other.

The other conclusion (yours) is also a possibility but without something that differentiates between an objective attractiveness and one subjectively based on the online dating perspective, you can't say which is more likely.

No one can read your mind. If you want to communicate something you actually need to write it all out and explain it.

[–]Ezreal3 -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1 & 2: wrong, 3: makes no sense

[–]mc_schmitt 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would the women on dating sites be generally uglier than the status quo too?

Edit: Just want to note that I think you brought up a good point.

[–]Harryteet 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is evolutionary psychology at work. Freakin cool too. Men are programmed to view women this way and to, and often incorrectly so, to take any sort of nicety from a woman as a sign of interest because it ups the chance of a successful mating and passing on of genes. In other words, it is evolutionarily more effective for men to view the world this way so they don't miss any potential opportunities to spread their seed. Women, on the other hand, are burdened with having an alien inside them for 9 months if they are impregnated, so are naturally prone to be more judgmental in selecting a mate because they very well may rely on that person for resources to have a successful pregnancy and rearing of the child. This is obviously not a conscious thought process but rather engrained over generations of human mating. In addition, the slut shaming is actually rooted in evolution too. The idea being that withholding sex is a power for women, and if a member of the female group gives it up to anyone and everyone, that commodity decreases in value. This is all from a human sexuality class I had. Very interesting imo.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not an alien, half of it are her genes.

You are correct here "need to rely on the father for resources thing", but that doesn't factor in here attractiveness was solely judged by looks and looks don't care for your baby.

[–]dfhghgdfgfhdgf -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is evolutionary psychology at work. Freakin cool too.

Yep, women are evil beings who manipulate others with sex and use lies to distort reality. But remember, it’s a crime to manipulate with sex (unless you have a vagina, then nothing at all matters, go kill a man and we’ll let you off you beautiful curved saint, you). Decency? She has a vagina. She is decency by birth. She gets all the benefits of human society while having none of the constraints. She is free to act like an animal, and any effects this has on society is everyone else’s fault because of her curves. We all know this. It’s why women were controlled, because if they aren’t you literally can’t have a civilization. It’s like if your neighbor breaks into your house every afternoon and you get told “that’s what they do, nothing can be done. You going to get mad at the clouds rolling in?” Women (and their endless male defenders) use the excuse of evopsych, evolution, or biology, to explain away shitty behavior and now we have the claim that amorality is normal, evil isn’t a thing, and at this point society is in decline because there is nothing to hold it together other than the force of a gun and a bunch of shitty sluts lying about who they are. Don’t buy into society because by default feminism made society obsolete. It claimed the opposite but if 80% of dudes are now obsolete, they need to realize this and stop letting themselves be bled for tax money so she can live a life at their expense. Let her fend for herself and see how real feminism actually is in nature. See what’s really natural, and what is an excuse to be animals rolling in shit.

Women, on the other hand, are burdened with having an alien inside them for 9 months if they are impregnated, so are naturally prone to be more judgmental in selecting a mate because they very well may rely on that person for resources to have a successful pregnancy and rearing of the child.

Always remember women are getting to play both sides of the coin. This is their inherent manipulation and lying at play. Here, they can use the pill to simulate pregnancy hormonally 24/7, then claim that they "need" a "better" man because of the threat of pregnancy, but simultaneously if they really needed a "real man" they wouldn't pick the men they do, they would pick one who could support them. They have no threat of pregnancy, but get to use the concept to leverage their actions. This is called lying. Evopsyc is a knotted twisted ball of string that means nothing at all and allows women to behave like animals while you hedonist losers cheer them on and pretend to be scientists in the same vein as bill nye.

[–]single_use_acc 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't just have implications for dating: it gives us an insight into how women perceive and interact with men in everyday situations.

[–]rich360 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Girls need to realize that the only person who finds you ugly is most likely you. Girls are so hard on themselves, most men find most women attractive and you don't need to be a cover model to do so. Men are viewed on the other hand...

[–]PB_n_honey_taco 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, in reality, most women are average. According to the ok Cupid study, there's about an equal number of attractive women as there are unattractive women, but there are significantly more average women.

[–]rich360 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, but those average woman think they're below average. Average is still attractive. Yet some just shit on men's appearance.

[+]bumblebritches57 -37 points-36 points-35 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So why is my average rating over 8? like the lowest i've ever gotten is 5?

Maybe confirmation bias, but it can't all be that can it?

[–]baskandpurr 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it can't all be that can it?

Yes. Why would you assume that your experience is defintive?

[–]Rolten 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol, this is hilarious. There's an actual fucking study and you're questioning it because your single experience is different?

[–]the_unseen_one 161 points162 points163 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

Well, yeah. How many times have you guys been called fat, neckbeard, ugly, etc. online for disagreeing with a woman or arguing for MRM topics? I know that I've had it happen a shit ton from men and women.

[–]handklap 39 points40 points41 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

IMO the point isn't comparing who gets called names more vs. instead challenging the feminist narrative of body image, social pressure, bullying, etc. Feminists bend over backwards to exclude men in this topic. Always so careful to frame this is as "body shaming = male oppression of female victims", always ignoring how women body shame each other much more than men do (and it's not even close), always ignoring the body image issues that boys go through (short, obese, premature balding, small penis, etc, etc). This study challenges the narrative and even suggests (gasp) that females aren't the primary victims on a given subject.

[–]majortom22 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are always the primary victim, soldier. Report to re-education camp 4.

[–]the_unseen_one 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't making it a contest, just pointing out how common this shit is as an attempt to shut down any inconvenient arguments and ideas. I feel the truth is self evident, but as you pointed out feminists tend to reframe reality in such a way that men are always guilty and women always victims. Maybe this study will help people see through the bullshit once more.

[–]Im-going-underground 28 points29 points30 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

But that's different ... for reasons.

[–]DigitalDuelist 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

What kind of reasons?

[–]Im-going-underground 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Check it out everyone, we got ourselves a sexist, fat-shaming, misogynist rape apologist over here.

[–]Meyright 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ill, must be a fat basement dwelling ugly neckbeard am I right?

[–]Im-going-underground 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can smell him from here.

[–]ponchato 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hate when people question my beliefs.

[–]Coffeechipmunk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No. No it is not.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh yeah just head over to /r/okcupid, the misandry is widespread and men seem to compete in white knighting and self hatred. Post anything that doesn't imply women are anything but victims and you're downvoted into the ground by the white knights / angry women brigade. Mindboggling.

[–]the_unseen_one 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'll take your word for it. It's early and I don't want to hit my anger quota too fast.

[+]g_squidman points 9 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

Z... Zero? This happens to you? I AM a fat ugly neckbeard, but at least nobody online can call me out on it.

[–]the_unseen_one 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well I've been called it a lot when feminists realize they can't win an argument with facts or reason and instead try to berate and insult me into silence. I've also got a lot of bitter, virgin, short, incel, misogynist, racist, accusations of being white (I'm not, and that shouldn't matter anyways but to them it makes you evil incarnate), and more.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love when random girls online call me a rapist. That one always gets me.

[–]the_unseen_one 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Didn't you know that disagreeing with them LITERALLY makes you a rapist? /s

[–]the_unseen_one 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Case in point:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6cgrqh/banned_from_rfeminism_and_raskfeminism_for_a/dhuud8p/

[–]iopq 146 points147 points148 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

I remember when a fat girl in gym class made fun of me for not having big arms. She even flexed to demonstrate her larger arms. I told her that it's not muscle, it's fat. All these white knights came out of nowhere telling to stop calling her fat.

Somehow it's okay for her to make fun of me for being skinny, but it's not okay for me to tell her she's not that fit herself?

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points73 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]helloiisclay 54 points55 points56 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Had a buddy at an old job. The guy was tiny...like 110 soaking wet. The guys would all make fun of each other for different things, and weight wasn't at all off the table. If you couldn't take it, don't dish it out.

Well a girl in our office started laying into him for being skinny one day. Now this girl was easily 200+. Not a complete blob, but definitely way out of shape. He throws a line back that he'd rather be his size than hers. Next thing we know, she's up reporting him. He got written up for sexual harassment and being disrespectful towards coworkers. The whole office went to bat for him, males and the other females, but it made no difference. The double standard is ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This shit makes me want to quit society.

[+]guntermench43 -13 points-12 points-11 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't.

Then again, I was repeatedly almost expelled for beating the shit out of people that bullied my sister.

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Okay

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[–]morerokk -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Geez, that subreddit is obsessed with Trump now. Time to unsub I guess.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 37 points38 points39 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But I'm sure that like with suicide, it'll be worse when it happens to girls.

[–]blue_horse_shoe 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

but... don't adolescent boys have a suicide rate 4x higher than females of the same age?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Doom_and-Gloom 93 points94 points95 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In other obvious news, the grass is green. Seriously though, is anyone even surprised by this? Boys have always far, far more vulnerable to all forms of bullying than girls.

[+]RedditEqualsLife points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah there's many other ways boys bully each other. Let's say I was playing CS:GO for five hours with my friends, one of these matches haunted me since, and my friend reminded me that I need to work on my aim because he said something about fornication with certain family members of mine that hurt me the most.

(ಥ﹏ಥ)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Beautiful

[–]Im-going-underground -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but we mostly suck it the fuck up, like everyone should, because sticks and stones may break my bones etc. We're breeding a society of wimps and victims. Equality won't come when we all achieve equal victimhood, it will come when nobody has to overcome unfair barriers to bettering themselves.

[–]DankWojak 47 points48 points49 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Oh

[–]Preebus 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh

[–]bakedpotato486 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh...

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Oh...?

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[–]Gambizzle 19 points20 points21 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As a kid I was a national grade athlete. I was built like a whippet and my muscles were developed well beyond those of my peers.

However, I was severely bullied about my body. A few examples:
1. People would just come up and punch me for no reason (multiple times), then be like 'oh you are strong so that shouldn't hurt'
2. I was regularly forced to participate in arm wrestles and do hundreds of push-ups to demonstrate that yes... I'm still stronger than my peers. Eventually my arm would get tired and I'd lose an arm wrestle (I was a sprinter anyway - so NFI why people wanted to test my arm strength anyway)... this would lead to weeks of me being put down for losing to some dude (and being forced into a re-match).
3. My body was an object for women to critique. Yeah like they'll whinge about breasts, hips...etc being critiqued. EVERY girl had an opinion about my abs (was it REALLY a 6-pack?!?) my chest, my biceps, my legs... whether my face fit my body. Was my body fake? Had I used steroids?
4. Then magically overnight... at about the age of 23... guys my age became MASSIVE (massive rather than toned became the same thing). Steroids became common place and I became 'too skinny' for everybody. When I quit sports and put on a bit of a gut I was 'too fat'. I found it funny how we magically clicked from seeing the Hoff as being the perfect male to seeing the Rock as the perfect male. Highly augmented bodies seem to be the go these days! Not for me thanks...

Now I don't give a fuck what people think about my body and actively boast about my cake-eating habits. However, men's bodies are on show. Masculinity is a massive thing growing up, and nobody's immune from body-related bullying.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is simply the social group bucking horns with the perceived alpha, it's normal social posturing and you shouldn't have taken it personally, more a badge of pride if anything, but I understand the double standards you are bringing light to. Masculinity, like you say, has always been tested and brings about competition from both genders since the beginning of time. It's a big reason why sports and physical achievement have always been praised heavily by cultures throughout history.

[–]RobAndo80 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see girls call out men's appearance all the time like it's no thing but also preemptively attack men for calling out her appearance even when the man hasn't done so at all. But that's "equal".

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

The ideal male archetype has been set in stone since the ancient Greeks. The ideal female archetype literally changes every few months. It's easier to conform to an acceptable level of beauty for women than men.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Really though. It's hard as hell to actually get a chiseled body. Your entire life has to revolve around while also having the money to fund it. There's so much lethargy in today's say and age where there isn't even a need to be active. Centuries ago being fat was a sign of wealth soon being ripped will be.

[–]guntermench43 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Eating that well is so fucking expensive, but that's not the issue, obese people spend more on food. As you said, too lethargic and lazy.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Healthy food definitely costs more than the Dollar Menu at McDonalds.

[–]interstate-15 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This myth has been busted so many times.

[–]Dontworryabout_it 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only if you prepare the healthy food yourself

[–]McFeely_Smackup 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I remember when I was a younger man, women were obsessed with fear that their asses might look too big, now grotesquely oversized badonkadonks are everywhere.

I get that tastes change, but how did we make asses change?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

McDonalds.

[–]Blutarg 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

How has the womanly ideal changed? "Don't be fat", that's basically it.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The 90s were all about Skeleton thinness. The 50s and 60s were plump, full bodies. Heck, the 00s were all about Kate Upton-esque bodies with huge tits and now it's all about Kim Kardassian/Beyoncé huge asses.

Sure, "don't be fat" hasn't changed, but you can have 20% body fat as a woman and meet most ideals. Maintaining 20% isn't hard. But men are expected to have sub-10% and that's insanely difficult. Even ignoring diet and exercise, you have to correctly maintain your hormone levels for that which is a crazy advanced skill.

Even if you work out all the time and eat perfectly, the most you're going to get to is like 12-14%, unless you got lucky with the hormones. Yet Hollywood actors cheat and get that "skintight" look without trying. Women didn't have the "unattainable beauty" problem until photoshop, but men have always been fighting steroids.

[–]Blutarg 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think the pinup idols of the 50s and 60s were as plump as you think they were. There's this sort of urban legend that has grown recently that women such as Marilyn Monroe were chubby or something, but nothing could be further from the truth. Now, dress sizes have changed, so a woman who wore a size 6 in 1950 would wear a size 0 today, but that's because of different labels, not different bodies.

But I totally agree with you about how much harder it is for men.

[–]lynx_and_nutmeg 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

but you can have 20% body fat as a woman and meet most ideals. Maintaining 20% isn't hard. But men are expected to have sub-10% and that's insanely difficult.

That's not how it works... Women naturally have about twice as much body fat as men - more body fat and less lean mass in general, plus butt and boobs. 14% is a perfectly normal amount of body fat for men, 20% for a man would be overweight. The most shredded top level male bodybuilders have as little as 3% body fat, but that's obviously very extreme. 10% is on the lower side but still common among men who work out.

[–]RobbyHawkes 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

With the exception of the small penis bit.

[–]morerokk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree. I have noticed that the "ideal woman" is different for every man. Preferences vary a lot. Short women, tall women, white women, black women, even fat women. They're all desirable to one guy or another.

But the "ideal man" is a lot more homogenous. Tall, muscular, dominant, and handsome. Almost all women are attracted to that.

[–]unpopularculture 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This comment doesn't really make much sense. For a start, the ideal male archetype (as you describe it) certainly does change. I've seen a shift towards a more bulky body becoming the coveted look for men, rather than a svelte, lean style that used to be popular.

Secondly, even if your point were the case, I don't see how this would necessarily make it easier for women to fit their archetype than men. You can quite easily make the opposite argument based on these statements.

Finally, I think that these "ideal archetypes" that you're identifying mainly exist in the media, and in the minds of the people whose gender they are portraying. Ultimately, I think you're describing a fashion. I don't think you're describing a basis for attraction for the majority of people.

[–]dgfhhfghdgf 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Fucking manlets. When will they learn?

[+]adiwitko points 9 years ago* [recovered] (8 children) | Copy Link

They should just go and gain some height

[–]Preebus 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Silly 5'11 men... SMH

[–]DatGrass14 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

a 5'11 man can easily claim they're 6'1 and get away with it.

I've noticed literally everyone thinks they're taller than they are. I'm just under 5'8 and every man within an inch of my height (5'7-5'9) say they're 5'10+ and no one bats an eye.

[–]Preebus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lol yeah, I'm 5'11 and I usually just say I'm 6 foot.

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[–]Mountain_beers 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I used to be honest about my height until I learned how many guys are forced to lie about it cause if your sub-6'; you're sub-human. And sometimes I'll be berated for saying 6' (my actual height) because guys 5'10 say they're 6'. I don't see why height is such an indicator of attractiveness.

[–]Brandon_B610 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As a guy who's 5'11.5, I definitely always say 6ft.

[–]Mountain_beers 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a true 6 footer, we welcome you.

[–]Dontworryabout_it 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I'm 6ft on the dot and every guy says I must be at least 6-2 because they're 6ft. It's kinda funny

[–]Coffeechipmunk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I personally love the term "Mangina."

[–]dgfhhfghdgf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Mangina

That term means a cuckolded feminist man who kotows the line. Manlet is a derogatory term for a man's height implying he'll never be an actual human being. You don't seem to understand what the phrases mean.

[–]Coffeechipmunk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never said they were the same, I just said it was my favorite slur.

[–]CaptainnT 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funny, because they talk about how boys are bullied more half the articles talks about a 12 year old girl named Lily being bullied...thanks dailymail.

[–]MixBleachAndAcetone 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

This may be in bad taste but back in elementary school we would call an obese black girl "Shamu the Whale."

[–]Im-going-underground 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, that's fucking horrible. Poor girl.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But...muh privilege....

[–]wonkifier 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wish they'd share some examples of what that bullying looks like.

I have a hard time believing any stats of this nature (in any direction) without knowing how the classification works

[–]uniqueusernanne 32 points33 points34 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Are we really going to cite the daily mail now?

[–]MelkorHimself 54 points55 points56 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are we really going to cite the daily mail now?

If you'd like something more erudite, Teal Deer did a video detailing how half of online misogyny comes from women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJmC2xHN7Lo

[–]Endless_Summer 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Which part of it are you disputing, and based on what evidence?

[–]MrSparkle666 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed. The Daily Mail is basically a tabloid. If the article has any merit, it should be possible to find a source with a better track record.

[–]dejour 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems like all the sources are basically saying the same thing.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boys-more-likely-to-be-bullied-online-over-body-image-than-girls-cyberbullying-poll-reveals-a3544631.htmlt

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807589/cyber-bullying-online-bullying-online-abuse-parenting-danger-children

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/one-gender-more-likely-taunted-10461938

[–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

It's one of the only news outlets that doesn't have editorial bias.

[–]MrSparkle666 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Being politically neutral is one thing. Printing any random unsubstantiated garbage that will get views is another. I'm not saying that this article is necessarily untrue, but the Daily Mail does not have a good track record for journalistic integrity. It's not a great site to link to as a source.

[–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

The Daily Mail has a far better track record for journalistic integrity than most outlets. It's very often the case that someone bitches about DM as a source, so the same story is just posted in a different outlet. They're almost always right.

People just don't like them because they don't have an editorial bias, so they'll have printed something that will have pissed everyone off at some point. They can't actually find fault in any of the stories, so they attack the source, and since the DM has pissed everyone off, it's not hard to find enough people to agree with you to develop a consensus that they're unreliable.

[–]RobbyHawkes -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The Daily Mail has a strong right-wing bias, and frequently prints utter falsehoods (not just twisting the truth but making stuff up). It's a right-wing mouthpiece with entire blogs dedicated to debunking the lies it churns out. It's very popular garbage.

[–]MrSparkle666 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I have to disagree with you there. The Daily Mail is absolutely trash journalism, but I do not believe they have a strong right-wing bias. Yes, they post articles with right-wing bias often. But they also post a lot of articles with a left leaning bias. They are frankly, all over the map. I think the main reason they get associated with right-wing news outlets is that they have an extreme penchant for sensationalism, which is something that is usually more strongly associated with low brow conservative media. I don't believe it's an inherent editorial bias, though. It's more likely just a result of their business model, which is to post headlines which get as many clicks as possible.

[–]anonlymouse -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is patently false. It publishes articles with a strong left wing bias as well. Left wingers just don't get upset about it when they do.

[–]RobbyHawkes 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What? It's not controversial that the DM is a right-wing paper. Can you point me to some of these left-wing articles the DM is churning out?

For what it's worth, I'm left wing, and I don't want to read any bullshit, left or right wing. Interpretation is one thing, bullshit is another.

[–]anonlymouse 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What? It's not controversial that the DM is a right-wing paper. Can you point me to some of these left-wing articles the DM is churning out?

Anything feminist that gets complained about right here. It's not uncommon to see a post here complaining about feminist BS being peddled by the DM.

[–]Terribledragon4Hire 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Blame the patriarchy!!!!!!

[–]Blutarg 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Always!

[–]AttilaTheBuns 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This makes sense but out of principal I have to down vote the daily mail.

[–]bumblebritches57 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

attacking the source isn't a style of debate.

[–]DigitalDuelist 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is, but it's a really bad one.

[–]shickey86 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You say that like he was even trying to debate.

[–]AttilaTheBuns -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't debating anything, I was just stating that I downvote tabloids like the dailymail.

[–]unbelievablepeople 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was a kid there was no "online" anything, but I absolutely got real-life bullied because of my body, in my case being scrawny. I remember when I was in eighth grade all the girls in school were brought to an assembly about eating disorders. I asked why the boys weren't allowed and was told, "Because girls get pressure from society about their bodies and boys don't."

As an adult I'm into lifting weights, and although I genuinely enjoy it, I have to admit a part of my interest in lifting is a result of not wanting to be that scrawny kid that other kids (boys and girls) made fun of.

[–]webleytempest 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–]dejour 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think the key takeaway here isn't that boys are bullied more. The numbers are close and some other studies show that girls are bullied more.

However, there isn't good evidence that girls are bullied more, and we should help provide equal help to boys and girls to avoid bullying and minimize the impact of bullying.

[–]Oerath 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So... there numbers or something citable? 'Cause the Daily Mail is not exactly a peer-reviewed journal...

[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Worst Patriarchy ever.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Don't let your kid be obese and this won't happen.

[–]DatGrass14 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Or short

or skinny

or ugly

or hairy

or hairless

women complain about everything

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Been watching Man in the High Castle and I just wondered that women would love the Nazi Reich's eugenics programme. Swaths of 6ft2 blond haired, blue eyed strapping lads.

Heil Hitler.

Although, they'd still complain.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why do you assume it's women doing the shaming?

Sexist victim complex much?

[–]DatGrass14 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can only speak on my own experiences.

[–]mwobuddy 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Nah, child obesity protects them from sexual predators, because even they have standards.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know how I'd feel if I were told I was too fat to molest.

[–]morerokk 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Relevant Bob's Burgers

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The obese kids are now grown predators.

[+]fogfactor -38 points-37 points-36 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

cyber bullying isnt real

[–]Akclpvp 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Depends, I understand your point that you can never win a argument in the internet. But that only applies at a certain age, when playing CSGO pugs if I corrected someone older then me 2 years ago I would get shit on and it felt overwhelming because I was always taught to not argue with adults or older people. But know that I have a deeper voice and have filled out it makes me more confident and nobody ever wins those arguments now, it's just a endless circle of hate.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

https://nobullying.com/six-unforgettable-cyber-bullying-cases/

Then neither are these deaths, thank god!

[–]fogfactor 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Ryan Halligan

he was bullied IRL by some douche who spread the rumor he was gay

Megan Meier

She was depressive before she ever made a myspace account, even if the troll hadn't egged her on, she would have committed suicide for some other reason.

Jessica Logan

She sent nudes to her IRL boyfriend who spread it around.

Tyler Clemmeni

He was shunned at his university by his IRL social group

Amanda Todd

This is the only case of suicide prompted entirely by targeted online harassment.

And even if ALL those cases were 100% because they read some mean words on their computer screen, I'd still say that cyber bullying isnt real because of all those cases, only one had the incident stay online.

Bullying is real, bullying using the internet as a medium is real. But cyberbullying isnt because no matter how many "I hate you"s, "lol what a slut"s or "kys fag"s a sane person gets, they wont kill themselves over it.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Cyber bullying literally is bullying done through the internet. It is possible to be bullied on the internet and outside of the internet at the same time, by the same people. They're not mutually exclusive. The damage whether through the internet or through real life, is still done. These cases are put forwards because the last nail in the coffin, so to speak, was done through the internet, which fits the profile of cyber bullying.

Literally cyber bullying means "The use of electronic communication to bully a person, typically by sending messages of an intimidating or threatening nature." You even admit to it in your post here. What is your post even about? Are you trying to say these people shouldn't have felt as bad just because it was through the internet?

[+]fogfactor -10 points-9 points-8 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

if someone's bullied both IRL and online, that's just regular bullying. someone bullied only online won't kill themselves over it.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is so shortsighted. Do you have any idea how fragile some kids are in terms of self esteem? Can you imagine them spending a lot of time online? Imagine if they got bullied viciously there.

[–]fogfactor 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

So what do you propose we do about it? Make online banter illegal so that mentally ill jimmy doesn't kill himself over someone calling him a scrub on cs;go?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No. Teach kids not to bully and also improve self esteem.

[–]fogfactor 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That implies that all kids are bullies unless you teach them not to bully. Kids that bully are bullies and will bully no matter how many after school specials you throw at them.

[–]metaltrite 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

don't feel like finding the study but historically, that actually doesn't do shit and feels like the "teach not to rape" bullshit to me. The study I'm thinking of actually showed what did reduce bullying is more outlets for competitiveness. The type of schools that sink a lot of money into anti-bullying measure also tend to be the ones that eliminate these outlets. They're the "everyone gets a trophy" districts. So basically, pussifying schools like you're suggesting would probably have the opposite effect.

edit: tried finding the study. there are too many anti-bullying results clogging up the search.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

e study I'm thinking of actually showed what did reduce bullying is more outlets for competitiveness.

Instead of teach kids not to bully (which worked for my cousin), I'll just say reduce bullying. Increasing empathy helped him but I can see how it wouldn't help everyone.

[–]quackquackoopz -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a father, the zombie look of the kid in that photo scares me.

[+]mepppf -48 points-47 points-46 points 9 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link

That's because we're raising a generation of little whimpy boys

Edit: based on the amount of negatives I guess we've already raised that generation of whimps

[–]ADCFeeder69 33 points34 points35 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's because were raising a generation of vanity and extremely high expectations.

[+]adiwitko points 9 years ago* [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

It's too easy for ugly women to look nice due to makeup and they just rate themselves higher and expect higher rated men.

[+]fogfactor -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

you know theres literally nothing preventing you from learning how to use make up

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Ha haha. Do you know what would happen to me if I told my friends I wore makeup? Or my brothers? Or my father? There is a form of masculinity people expect of men and wearing makeup isn't one of them.

[–]fogfactor -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Literally every single male actor on TV is caked with make up. The ideal male form as presented by the media is a man wearing make up. Your shitty family and bad taste in friends doesn't negate that.

[–]SaintHyde -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There is a form of masculinity people expect of men and wearing makeup isn't one of them.

This is literally what these people are talking about.

[–]overseerofpurples 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No, we've raised a generation of assholes. Like you.

[–]mepppf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well you win

[–]DataBound 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah bullying never existed any where in history till these snowflakes were born! /s dumbass

[+]mepppf -12 points-11 points-10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I never implied that bullying never existed... dumbass

[+]DataBound -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for sharing fatty! /s Sorry, couldn't help myself

[–]GaryNOVA -3 points-2 points-1 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Pretty sure that's because men want to get layed and are keeping their options open. Whereas girls usually don't need to keep there options open.

[+]MagicJava -41 points-40 points-39 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

From my experience this isn't true. Not to say that it doesn't happen but people are gonna talk shit much more about girls.

[–]morerokk 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Your personal anecdotes cannot compare to the actual scientific study in the OP.

[+]fogfactor -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

daily mail

scientific study

shiggy my diggy sailor

[–]notacrackheadofficer 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If a known liar says the sky is blue, then what?

[–]dhoffnun 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well TBF that's way easier to verify

[–]fogfactor 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

only a fat beta virgin would say this ;)

[+]MagicJava -10 points-9 points-8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure bud

[+]NigelJ -6 points-5 points-4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who buys this obvious bullshit? Oh r/mensrights. Of coarse.

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