I think the best argument is when you say something like...
If women really are paid less then why is every business not frantically trying to hire women over men? If they really were paid 20% less for the same work every business that hires a woman would instantly increase their profits for each woman hired.
I think we all know that lawyers, as a profession are much too invested in maintaining the patriarchy to ever go after large corporations for multiple breaches of gender based pay bias, no matter how much it could net them personally. /s
I mean, one gender is biologically encumbered with a week out of every month being partially incapacitated, not to mention the risk of pregnancy and 9 months of increasing incapacitation.
The biggest problem I see with this is that you resume a job with this simple sentence:
Job: How much work someone does.
But that is not the case. There are other factors that comes into play like employee moral, work dynamics, how your company is seen from the outside, etc.
It might pisses some people off but no one can logically argue that hiring more women means more drama. And every single place I have seen that was women only, the work got done BUT the drama was so high that almost all of them had to take time off for mental/social issues. I'm not saying every woman is an conniving cunt but in average, women do tend to trash talk behind their peers more than men does.
This fact alone would be enough for any employer to not want an all-female workforce. The job would be done today but in the long term, problems will arise. And, say what you like, but women are not straight forward in resolving their problems. It lingers on and on and on while men are more straightforward: I'm quitting, I want a job far away from X, I punch him in the face (and that woule be immediate termination). Of course there are some women that are straightforward like that and there are men who are drama queens but in average, women tend more toward long-term drawned out mental fighting that leads to lower productivity for everyone involved.
On the flip side, male-only departments do have their problems too in some domains.
It sucks to say, but gender roles have a huge basis in reality. Man are good doing physical tasks and work great together in those tasks and a woman there just causes problem where the opposite is most likely true: where compassion is needed, a woman-only team is most likely better than a mixed one. And for all the other jobs, there is a ratio which is better and that ratio is not always necessarily 50-50!
It all comes down to this:
Suck it up, men and women are not the same. You can argue they are equal all you want, this can be true or not, I can't say. But the fact of the matter is: we are not the same. We don't see things the same way, we don't look at life trough the same eyes, our reality is not the same (I know I'll never have to carry a child, she knows she'll never have to lift things so heavy all her body aches for day's, etc.). No matter how you turn it, our lives are so different, our viewpoints are so different, our references are so different, it's insane to think a man and a woman can be exactly the same. And this means that for each and every job, one of the sex is better than the other (in average) but most likely, a mix of the two is the best scenario to get a global viewpoint of your clientel.
Note: I don't believe there is a pay-gap. But I just wanted to make the point that it's more complicated than saying then why aren't women hired more.
Do you think that this marxist ideology is being "pumped in" from outside sources or more of a self propagating form(virtue signaling)? I also find it somewhat comical that Islamist ideologies are cozying up to the SJW sphere, it's like they smell blood in the water.
Based on more than 505,000 salaries shared by full-time U.S. employees on Glassdoor, men earn 24.1 percent higher base pay than women on average. In other words, women earn about 76 cents per dollar men earn. However, comparing workers with similar age, education and years of experience shrinks that gap to 19.2 percent. Further, comparing workers with the same job title, employer and location, the gender pay gap in the U.S. falls to 5.4 percent (94.6 cents per dollar).
If you believe this you've never worked in your life
If you haven't noticed, the study covers non-US countries where overtime has to be paid more than regular hours and is limited by the company. Yet the gap remains the same between the UK and the US. A good assumption here would be that similar jobs "full time" require similar hours worked until you have evidence to the contrary.
That doesn't follow in any logical capacity
What's a logical capacity? Sorry, I shouldn't make fun of dumb people. But to spell it out for you: Similar age groups will show lower years of experience if they took maternity leaver. That's when you compare only age groups with similar years of experience. That covers maternity leave for women, or parental leave as the EU has for both sexes.
You've made up your mind and seem pretty helpful. Why pretend to be interested in new information to adjust opinion to reality? Just stick to "lol wimin are dumb" and don't bother the decent people with your fakery.
THIS is a feminist standpoint. THIS is equality. The rabid hamplanets that has taken over the left should listen to this woman and what she has to say. But they won't, of course.
Whatever feminism used to mean is long since dead and buried.
Best I can tell, feminism today means whatever the hell the feminist speaking wants it to mean.
I'm a man and 100% support women as equal opportunists in society but it will be a cold day in hell before I say I support feminism. It means far too many different and ridiculous things to too many people.
Give me an issue and I'll give you a stance but if you want me to identify to a group made up of every stance under the sun united by the vaguest goal well fuck that.
Church and state should be separated, meaning the government shouldn't be telling church what to do anymore than the church should tell the government what to do.
Telling the church gay people should be married is like telling the local bingo club what it's membership criteria should be.
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I like how you didn't deny having a 2.8 and failing out of CS you antifem scum while implicitly supporting a regressive, anti-gay British MP.
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What are the four? Only good one I see is the ban on fox hunting
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Is anything you disagree with "bigoted".
God, these lazy fucking arguments are getting annoying now.
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I think the best argument is when you say something like...
If women really are paid less then why is every business not frantically trying to hire women over men? If they really were paid 20% less for the same work every business that hires a woman would instantly increase their profits for each woman hired.
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Blaming capitalism for the existance greed shows how little they understand the concept in the first place.
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Why can't you blame capitalism?
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Racism is borne out of genes preferring themselves. Literally biological.
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I think we all know that lawyers, as a profession are much too invested in maintaining the patriarchy to ever go after large corporations for multiple breaches of gender based pay bias, no matter how much it could net them personally. /s
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I mean, one gender is biologically encumbered with a week out of every month being partially incapacitated, not to mention the risk of pregnancy and 9 months of increasing incapacitation.
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On physical performance:
On mental performance:
Some of the many studies. Feel free to screech histrionically snowflakes. Or be an adult and acknowledge, accept, and move on.
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Are you from there?
On physical performance:
On mental performance:
Some of the many studies. Feel free to screech histrionically snowflakes. Or be an adult and acknowledge, accept, and move on.
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To help you deny reality and soothe the cognitive dissonance such denial generates:
On physical performance:
On mental performance:
Some of the many studies. Feel free to screech histrionically snowflakes. Or be an adult and acknowledge, accept, and move on.
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The biggest problem I see with this is that you resume a job with this simple sentence:
Job: How much work someone does.
But that is not the case. There are other factors that comes into play like employee moral, work dynamics, how your company is seen from the outside, etc.
It might pisses some people off but no one can logically argue that hiring more women means more drama. And every single place I have seen that was women only, the work got done BUT the drama was so high that almost all of them had to take time off for mental/social issues. I'm not saying every woman is an conniving cunt but in average, women do tend to trash talk behind their peers more than men does.
This fact alone would be enough for any employer to not want an all-female workforce. The job would be done today but in the long term, problems will arise. And, say what you like, but women are not straight forward in resolving their problems. It lingers on and on and on while men are more straightforward: I'm quitting, I want a job far away from X, I punch him in the face (and that woule be immediate termination). Of course there are some women that are straightforward like that and there are men who are drama queens but in average, women tend more toward long-term drawned out mental fighting that leads to lower productivity for everyone involved.
On the flip side, male-only departments do have their problems too in some domains.
It sucks to say, but gender roles have a huge basis in reality. Man are good doing physical tasks and work great together in those tasks and a woman there just causes problem where the opposite is most likely true: where compassion is needed, a woman-only team is most likely better than a mixed one. And for all the other jobs, there is a ratio which is better and that ratio is not always necessarily 50-50!
It all comes down to this:
Suck it up, men and women are not the same. You can argue they are equal all you want, this can be true or not, I can't say. But the fact of the matter is: we are not the same. We don't see things the same way, we don't look at life trough the same eyes, our reality is not the same (I know I'll never have to carry a child, she knows she'll never have to lift things so heavy all her body aches for day's, etc.). No matter how you turn it, our lives are so different, our viewpoints are so different, our references are so different, it's insane to think a man and a woman can be exactly the same. And this means that for each and every job, one of the sex is better than the other (in average) but most likely, a mix of the two is the best scenario to get a global viewpoint of your clientel.
Note: I don't believe there is a pay-gap. But I just wanted to make the point that it's more complicated than saying then why aren't women hired more.
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Distinguished is the word we are going to use?
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How are these idiotic?
There exist very sensible reasons to be against abortion and hold religious views.
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What is wrong with you people?
She's the host, it's her job to play devils advocate.
You want anybody who disagrees or holds different opinions to you to be silenced, it's fucking weird. Grow up.
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So what do you suppose is the end goal of this agenda? I see it as a power grab of sorts.
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Do you think that this marxist ideology is being "pumped in" from outside sources or more of a self propagating form(virtue signaling)? I also find it somewhat comical that Islamist ideologies are cozying up to the SJW sphere, it's like they smell blood in the water.
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Thing is, pay gap isn't a myth. It's not the 17-21% screamed from the rooftops, but it's real.
https://www.glassdoor.com/research/studies/gender-pay-gap/
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Controlled for in that study. ~5% pay gap remains.
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hours worked for "full time" is "full time". years of experience is a good proxy for maternity leave.
"family" is irrelevant whatever you mean with that and "actual productivity" is your bias showing.
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If you haven't noticed, the study covers non-US countries where overtime has to be paid more than regular hours and is limited by the company. Yet the gap remains the same between the UK and the US. A good assumption here would be that similar jobs "full time" require similar hours worked until you have evidence to the contrary.
What's a logical capacity? Sorry, I shouldn't make fun of dumb people. But to spell it out for you: Similar age groups will show lower years of experience if they took maternity leaver. That's when you compare only age groups with similar years of experience. That covers maternity leave for women, or parental leave as the EU has for both sexes.
You've made up your mind and seem pretty helpful. Why pretend to be interested in new information to adjust opinion to reality? Just stick to "lol wimin are dumb" and don't bother the decent people with your fakery.
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No they can't. If they could've they would've.
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You might want to work on your reading comprehension.
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Uhm, but they couldn't otherwise because of scope, time, money, etc. so the claim that they can, especially "lol they could've" is idiotic and empty.
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THIS is a feminist standpoint. THIS is equality. The rabid hamplanets that has taken over the left should listen to this woman and what she has to say. But they won't, of course.
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Whatever feminism used to mean is long since dead and buried.
Best I can tell, feminism today means whatever the hell the feminist speaking wants it to mean.
I'm a man and 100% support women as equal opportunists in society but it will be a cold day in hell before I say I support feminism. It means far too many different and ridiculous things to too many people.
Give me an issue and I'll give you a stance but if you want me to identify to a group made up of every stance under the sun united by the vaguest goal well fuck that.
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Not really if you turn off your laptop and actually talk to real people. The vast majority of people still equate feminism with equality.
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She's not homophobic at all, she doesn't support gay marriage.
Which has perfectly legitimate reasons that aren't "I hate gay people".
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I don't think she's homophobic at all.
did you hear what she was saying?
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I mean, sure, you can dig stuff up she said 5 years ago, but based on waht she said in the VIDEO
she does not sound homophobic in anyway whatsoever.
people can change their minds you know.
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you're an ageist you agephobe
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There are no legitimate reasons to not allow two consenting homosexuals to marry. Homophobia refers to dislike, fear, OR prejudice for them.
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I can think of a good reason.
Church and state should be separated, meaning the government shouldn't be telling church what to do anymore than the church should tell the government what to do.
Telling the church gay people should be married is like telling the local bingo club what it's membership criteria should be.
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