good morning <3

Twohagsover30 · 2021-05-05T14:33:46+00:00

And sometimes 'empowerment' really means exploiting yourself for men's pleasure. Don't be fooled by libfem fantasties.

veruscka · 2021-05-05T14:45:48+00:00

It bothers me how libfems use “empowerment” and “confidence” interchangeably. If it doesn’t actually give you power, it isn’t empowering. Example: wearing concealer to cover blemishes and dark circles isn’t empowering, but it can make you feel confident. Empowerment would be not spending your hard earned money on cosmetics, and letting your face look however it naturally looks. And then being confident anyway.

QueenAlice3 · 2021-05-05T15:29:06+00:00

Exactly. The term empowered fails to recognize that women are naturally powerful and society is geared to suppress that. We don’t need empowerment. We need freedom and support to use our own capabilities.

Empowerment refers to the allowing of us to momentarily use our facilities but it isn’t a permanent transfer of power. It’s a temporary loan to distract us from the fact that they don’t want to reorganize society in our favour.

It’s like being handed a cookie and a head pat while they walk around holding our leashes.

Women don’t need conditional empowerment. We need societal/patriarchal emancipation.

AlextheAnalyst · 2021-05-05T15:55:43+00:00

As I was reading, I kept thinking, "Wow, Gail Dines would really like this writer!" Lol.

Thanks for sharing, it's a great reminder to each of us that we're not the only one with human needs.

I read an article the other day about a couple whose housekeeper literally has to leave her home at 4:30am to get to their house on time to serve them their tea in bed. Once they're ready to get up, the husband goes to the office while the wife goes to her pilates class. The housekeeper prepares the children's breakfast. She also has to be fully engaged in the children's playtime, so that they learn, as opposed to just watching tv. This is expected to happen while she cleans the house. She then cooks separate meals for the wife, husband and kids. Her own children basically look after themselves all day. I'm sure if you were to ask the wife, she'd say, "Yes, I'm empowered! My husband earns enough that I can do whatever I want all day!" But the woman who works for them is doing a minimum of two people's jobs for one person's minimum wage, and my money is on Mr and Mrs Employer don't give a damn. They see her services as something they're entitled to, and her station in life as the product of her own laziness or stupidity.

If that isn't Empowerment for Me at the Expense of You, then I don't know what is. As much as I'd like a household team to help me with the never-ending chores, I know I'll never hire anyone until I'm wealthy enough to pay someone a decent salary for all that work.

modernmedusaa · 2021-05-05T16:37:15+00:00

Im tired of seeing dumb women claiming their only fans income is empowering & we should be all ‘you go sis!’. It cringes me out that’s what some women have resorted to sitting in their bedroom all day taking nudes for dirty old pornsick scrotes who can’t get laid. And they think that’s success or some kind of actual power- what happens when they get old? Lol. Why don’t you see powerful men doing it? They’re just catering to the hypersexualisation of women . Just another ass in the catalogue of nude women online- never going to changes men view on women.

Like nah sis, you making a mediocre wage from having 100 male subscribers, many of which will have wives & girlfriends, is not empowering. It only benefits your bank account, at the expense of other women. And that’s going to stay on your digital foot print forever. And don’t give me the ‘but I’m working class! It’s the only job I can do!’ . No it isn’t, stop lying especially when you’re from a western county - I grew up working class myself & could of easy depended on exploiting my looks to get by but CHOSE not to.

I was watching a cam girl on tv yday who says she gets constant rape threats from men on only fans & guys often approach her in the street saying they’ve ‘bought that round’ as they subscribe to her nudes. Sounds super empowering 🙃 I wonder how that career goes when you’re 40?

That’s just neoliberal dumb ‘choice’ feminism in a nutshell: ‘yes but it’s my choice & I’m making money & I’m independent! So it’s feminist! Feminism is supporting whatever dumb choice I make! Stop criticising me you’re jealous! Who cares that I’m normalising porn culture & catering to endless pornsick scrotes!’

What’s hilarious is so many of these ‘choice’ feminism liberal feminists claim they’re ‘Marxists’ & against capitalism. Marxism always noted the effects of material oppression (they constantly claim being a woman is a gender identity/feeling - not material lol) & there is nothing more capitalist than selling your pussy pics to pornsick wolves for money. You’re literally marketizing your pussy FOR men - how can that NOT be feeding into capitalism - which seeks to marketise every intimate sphere of life & turn into a competition.

IMO most ‘liberal feminists’ have no historical or theological grasp of feminism whatsoever - they are simply very naive, not very intelligent women- who like their wishy washy faux feminism spoonfed to them by the patriarchy itself & they just post fluffy woke dumb slogans for clout points on Instagram as opposed to picking up any women’s history books & having any real skin in the game. They just use ‘liberal feminism’ as a quick shield cover when ppl criticise their Pickme ways but I doubt they’ve really taken the time to understand what they’re supporting. They don’t care about feminism, just making a quick buck & getting attention .

MissIncongruousNY · 2021-05-05T16:48:09+00:00

I hope this doesn't make me a horrible person, but I have thought for a very long time that one of the toughest obstacles for truly feminist women are other women. The patriarchy exists because so many other women let it.

sherrybby · 2021-05-05T16:00:07+00:00

yesssss. and with that, surrogate mothers.

calico_moon · 2021-05-05T16:44:21+00:00

I love Gail Dines so much. What a bad ass, I can't get enough!

Ill_Entrepreneur_704 · 2021-05-05T15:24:45+00:00

No one is free until everyone is free.

gf_not_momma · 2021-05-05T20:40:45+00:00

There is so much internalized misogyny in white liberal feminism. Gail Daines seems to be one of the few modern day white feminists who truly work to call out the blindness of privileged libfems and how much danger they pose to more marginalized women. I am so happy FDS introduced me to her and have watched some of her lectures, which are amazing. I will, however, continue to focus on signal boosting feminists of color who were basically left in the dust by white feminism, and despite being at a disadvantage, clock major wins through organized collective action.

nomaki221 · 2021-05-05T18:06:19+00:00

intersectionalism, people!!

penelopekitty · 2021-05-05T21:51:56+00:00

Choice feminism is a cancer.

MissIncongruousNY · 2021-05-05T16:35:42+00:00

This reminds me of my SIL who stopped working the second she got pregnant. My brother is very well off, so they have a cleaning service plus a nanny and most meals are catered. She spends most of her time going to art studios with her other elite friends.

One day she went on a rant with me about how much of a feminist SHE is.

Meanwhile, I had just finished up my PhD and was working over 60 hrs a week as a PostDoc.

It was clear to me that day that she and I have different views on what it means to be a feminist.

jelilikins · 2021-05-05T23:54:54+00:00

I do struggle a bit with the concept of hiring a cleaner, especially in the situation where they're hired because it's the only option other than the wife doing everything (hardly feminist). But what if you're a single mother working long hours and you pay really well? The writer Caitlin Moran used to be a cleaner and has defended the hiring of them, pointing out that people only ever complain about these things when it allows them to bash women. No one is asking men about it.

I don't have the answers but I find it confusing.

EntireTadpole · 2021-05-05T16:49:07+00:00

I love this so much.

DameSorciere · 2021-05-05T19:03:11+00:00

[confused feminist noises]

quirkypinkllama · 2021-05-05T17:43:30+00:00

Could say the same thing about grocery store clerks, mechanics, etc. Someone has to do the job, though I think the pay should be better

Partypuppers · 2021-05-05T17:05:45+00:00

While I agree that many high earning career women can have careers by paying for nannies and cooks, I really disagree that (perhaps incorrectly, someone tell me if I'm wrong) that nannies and childcare providers are underpaid. In my country at least (UK) the cost of childcare is extortionate.

Title	good morning <3
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