First post and I'm pissed

hardwarequestions · 2012-10-24T16:50:22+00:00

Time to go to a dept head. Now.

cuteman · 2012-10-24T20:34:36+00:00

Sociology 101 has nothing to do with this subject. 102 doesn't either.

Both should introduce you to sociology theorists and their work.

This sounds like the professor injecting her own ideology into a class that shouldn't be politicized.

I'd go to the department head as somebody abov, suggested. Not only is it an inappropriate topic, it's taking time away from legitimate sociology topics.

Auldreekie · 2012-10-24T18:45:57+00:00

Wow. I just typed "Sociology Masculinity" into google and the first blog result was this;

When in a men’s sports locker room you must tread lightly on the topic of sexuality. Due to the nudity and closeness in the locker room space, “doing gender” and showing masculinity correctly is highly important to make sure the athletes are putting off the proper vibe. This macho environment promotes sexist, racist, and homophobic attitudes that are leading to the promotion of a rape culture.

Kuato2012 · 2012-10-24T18:22:24+00:00

Someone should tip off these sociology professors that Barney Stinson is a fictional character and a caricature designed for comedic effect. He is not all men.

Here's your male privilege for today: if a class showed a video that painted female sexuality with an extremely broad, negatively-biased brush, there would be a righteous shitstorm. But you're male, so it's OK to lump you together with every other male and denigrate the whole pack as a bunch of Neanderthals.

blackmanplayt1 · 2012-10-24T18:21:06+00:00

why are you taking sociology it is pretty much code these days for women's studies

i was shortly a sociology major before discovering the complete bullshit that is humanities studies in post secondary. the mandatory women's studies classes and super pro marxist feminist slant on most sociology and humanities programs essentially ruins them.

i had a sociology prof talk about the male gaze and show pictures of scantily clad women in fashion magazines like vogue. she argued the pictures from the fashion mag showed that these women had no agency and were being shown as victims because of the rape culture. the professor didn't see the insanity in her own argument in that the large majority of fashion magazine advertisements are created by women and gays.

2012-10-25T07:30:28+00:00

Sounds more like woman's studies than sociology. I had a female sociology professor say something to the effect of "Men and women are biologically different and more or less for a functional society gender roles are needed" and this girl student LOST IT. Like she actually beefed with the professor. The professor was like in her 50's, really short hair, and at first glance one might think she were a lesbian and I guess the girl made the assumption that the teacher was some kind of militant feminist. The girl started spouting woman's rights and shit like that and the professor said something like "You are gonna tell me about woman's rights?! Excuse me but I was burning my bras at Berkly before you were even a thought!" What blew my mind though is that the girl STILL wouldn't shut up...

MorsoesTorso · 2012-10-24T23:08:25+00:00

I find the word "bro" when used like this derogatory. It's nothing short of an insult used to generalize men into "idiot alpha-male sex-craved lunatics that get shitfaced and beat women with one hand and high-five their buddies with the other". That's just wrong, sexist, demeaning, and has no place in a classroom. I wonder how people would take it if I said all women followed a "hoe-code", which would generalize all women and bind them to the negative aspects of some women.

As for the bondage stuff, if you ever have to write any papers, you should take a trip over to /r/bdsm if you want good firsthand information on the lifestyles and fetishes based on the experiences of the participants, and not personal opinions of outsiders looking in (or from reading 50 Shades). They're a wonderful community of doms, subs, and everyone in between. There's a lot of happy men and women there, countless posts about the lifestyles (read: both weekend role-play, and 24/7 slaves), the fetishes, and what it's really all about for the people involved. I'd love to see your teachers reaction to a paper about how BDSM is largely about trust and safety.

daftingenuity · 2012-10-24T18:47:36+00:00

Just want to point out the practical since you're paying for this class and probably took it because you need the credit for a degree.

Social sciences are heavily influenced by feminism and it's been going on for decades. You are not going to change the sociology curriculum no matter how pissed you are.

Making a big stink about sexism in academia before you have your degree is just going to make those social sciences classes harder. If you alienate pro feminist professors they are likely to grade you more harshly because you "don't get it".

Maybe if you can find the video and post it here MRA's can help raise awareness of this institutionalized sexism.

I'm just suggesting that you look out for your short term goals.

Revoran · 2012-10-24T18:40:58+00:00

Drop the class immediately if you can. If you have to continue the class, fulfil the minimum requirements in as disengaged and perfunctory a manner as possible. You can't win in the classroom. The teacher is casting roles in a melodrama where the males are going to play the parts of the baddies; if you respond to provocation, you'll be cast as the male chauvinist, and your female classmates and their male feminist orbiters will boo and hiss you. The role you should choose for yourself is the dull, stupid male: if you're asked a question, pretend you don't understand, or parrot back the words and pretend not to understand their implication. Your teacher probably thinks you're stupid anyway, your passivity will make for boring theater, so you'll be ignored, and that's the best possible outcome you can hope for.

You're not going to persuade your teacher, you're not going to persuade most of your classmates. Look after yourself, and seek allies discreetly among your male classmates, people with whom you can vent after class. Your responsibility isn't to beat the house in Sociology 101, it's to manage your own energy and talents over your four years in college, and to make the best possible use of the opportunities available to you. As you've discovered, the sociology department is a waste of your energy and talents, so seek opportunities elsewhere.

Aaod · 2012-10-24T19:40:57+00:00

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SageInTheSuburbs · 2012-10-24T18:29:49+00:00

I'm starting to think sociology is nothing more but cultural gossip...

RedBoomstick · 2012-10-24T18:39:52+00:00

Bro code eh. Bang as many women as possable... I would probably have went into full troll mode and say thats not true. We're only after the hot ones. Classes like that are why i was glad i was able to be successful without having to go to a university.

actanonverba8 · 2012-10-25T06:34:33+00:00

Academia is one of the "fortresses" of misandry. When I went to college, I often stood up against misandry discussed or presented in class. Hardly any of the poor brainwashed, feminized males around me had my back. It was hard but I don't regret it a bit. In any case, most everyone respected me and I actually made some alliances with some of the people I least expected to. Best wishes.

Umedark · 2012-10-24T19:01:28+00:00

Porn makes guys rape? So rape never happened before pron. This "bro code" stuff sounds like the gay gene shit Christians like to make up.

EpicJ · 2012-10-24T16:43:31+00:00

Now ill admit i am not a regular viewer of Family Guy, but did they give any examples of these "rape" jokes?

Omnominable · 2012-10-24T22:44:19+00:00

Do you have to write a paper or anything for it? If so, you can just destroy it with that.

2012-10-24T23:23:18+00:00

This is how they manipulate and indoctrinate our youth, who will be educating and leading (read; manipulating and indoctrinating) the next generation.

gmano · 2012-10-25T01:06:24+00:00

This whole attitude towards male attitudes confuses cause and effect.

There is a tendency for males to value sexual experience more than a female does, but this is a result of a culture that values males based on their conquests (look at the IMDB page "A man is not a Virgin" and related pages).

There is a tendency to act aggressively because society pushes an image of a warrior/soldier/hero as the ideal man (note that this also plays into protecting "in groups").

There is a tendency to work longer hours and take more dangerous jobs because society pushes an image of a breadwinner, and one whos comfort is subsidiary to that of women and children.

These are not privileges, these are harms. Society tells males to have sex, but demonizes those that want sex as perverts. Society tells males to be strong and agressive, but hates men who are 'intimidating'. Society expects men to work more and take riskier jobs (those with danger pay), and then rages about how they are payed more per year.

There is a persistent double standard that is simply not being addressed, every attempt to remove 'male privilege' is simple a weak and half-assed attempt to cover up a symptom, not a solution.

The_Final_DarkMage · 2012-10-25T03:06:55+00:00

This isn't even sociology. This is "homo-sapient zoology." This isn't appropriate to teach in any environment. In fact it's down right sexist. This is what I really hate about social sciences (some people might get mad if I call em "soft science") they're often full of biased and speculative bullshit and too often are they followed as if they are hard fact.

djwork · 2012-10-25T05:12:21+00:00

This video sound like MRA gold

1: OP get a copy

2: Upload

3: Post a link to the video every time some feminist claims there is no discrimination against men in education

dinky_hawker · 2012-10-25T06:16:35+00:00

registered letters of complaint to the prof, CC the department head, student government, and student & local papers.

( I made this same recommendation here)

loose-dendrite · 2012-10-25T06:44:19+00:00

I couldn't get through very much of your post without raging quitting. Your teacher's complete lack of understanding of the bro code is just... just too much.

2012-10-25T12:43:25+00:00

Ask your professor if they've ever heard of the "Women are Wonderful" effect. This "bro code" is mostly a joke, because we all know that men don't stick together, they compete.

2012-10-25T12:51:51+00:00

I'd go to the head of the department and ask "what the fuck is this shit?" Take it to the local newspaper if the department doesn't give you satisfactory results.. All of that is complete and total bullshit, unscientific, and only perpetuates misandry.

rightsbot · 2012-10-24T16:32:19+00:00

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mellymelz89 · 2012-10-24T19:54:25+00:00

What is the name of this video, this shit need to be stopped

2012-10-25T12:40:51+00:00

Glad you took the pill. It gets worse, we try to make it better.

Sociology isn't a real science, by the way.

nawitus · 2012-10-24T18:41:23+00:00

But if you are in a committed one on one relationship and you agree to that, sleeping with someone else is an atrocity in my book.

Committed relationships can actually be open. If you agree with your partner that you can have casual sex with other people then there's nothing wrong with that. On the other hand, if you agree to have a "closed" relationship (which happens to be the norm), then I can agree that the promise should be kept.

DavidByron · 2012-10-25T00:59:32+00:00

It's sexual harassment if they keep on doing this.

You're being subjected to a hostile environment (man-hating feminist shit). Clearly men are going to have a much more negative educational experience in this class than women are if this one class is any basis, and as such this constitutes discrimination on the basis of sex which is illegal under title IX, and the phrase describing that illegality is "sexual harassment".

So do the same as you would have to if the teacher was hitting on you. Ask them to stop, and if they don't, note down each infraction, go over their head and complain.

mikesteane · 2012-10-25T04:38:10+00:00

I would start asking questions. "All guys follow a bro code" So this statement is falsified if there is a single counter example, yes or no? If yes, then find a counter example If no then ask what is meant by the word "All". Ask for evidence on "men have this image in their heads..." Ask whether chic flicks and chick lit do not have the effect of persuading women to value men only in terms of their eligibility. Don't make any statements simply ask questions and then repeat the questions if they avoid answering them. They will pin themselves into absurd positions eventually.

SamTheEnglishTeacher · 2012-10-25T09:32:03+00:00

Sociologists aren't scientists. They're social engineers/political busybodies. From what I have seen of their industry, it is inherently evil.

evilbrent · 2012-10-26T06:20:36+00:00

ask for evidence of all these claims.

Vomitdog · 2012-10-24T18:54:48+00:00

Just tell her it's not a science if you rely on subjectivity and can't quantitatively analyse it.

bigfatfakeaccount · 2012-10-24T20:20:27+00:00

Devil's Advocate - could it be that in trying to teach you something about critical thinking, the professor wants this to be questioned?

In other words, the professor is showing you something that is not meant to be taken as gospel but meant to illustrate something about the filmmaker or stereotypes?

herbandmargie · 2012-10-24T19:06:17+00:00

You don't need to refute their viewpoints because that is all they are, viewpoints. Since it is obviously a requirement course, know that the social "sciences" have an agenda in academia above all else. There is not a more aggregate ball of leftist imbeciles than in those courses. They want to brainwash as many young minds as possible before you leave their mandatory class and actually learn something real and concrete.

a77887 · 2012-10-24T18:39:10+00:00

These are exactly the types of issues that Men's Rights should be trying to get people to address, NOT trying to delegitimize issues that women have. Yes, SRS is filled with self-righteous cunts. But that doesn't disprove discrimination against women anymore than Obvious_Atheist being a fucking retard disproves discrimination against men.

Title	First post and I'm pissed
Author	daftingenuity
Upvotes	69
Comments	117
Date	October 24, 2012 4:31 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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