Mind blowing double standard

puddi_tat · 2012-02-25T07:15:21+00:00

Actually female genital mutilation has nothing to do with Islam and is a cultural practice usually found in north Africa. It is practised by Christians and people following the local religions as well.

2kvlt4u · 2012-02-25T08:21:26+00:00

I've never understood why so many women have this attitude. I'm a woman, and although I won't say I prefer uncircumcised men (edit: I don't have a preference either way), I've never had a problem. I can understand that it may look "weird" to women who are not used to seeing it, but I don't understand why women would find it "gross." It's just skin...

clockworkgirl21 · 2012-02-25T08:27:44+00:00

When you begin discussing male and female circumcision with these types of people, it's obvious they've done very little research on either type of mutilation. They have no idea not all female circumcision is cutting off the clitoris and sewing the vagina shut, and male circumcision is very damaging and the foreskin isn't just a piece of skin.

All circumcision of children of either sex is damaging and wrong, but not every type of female circumcision is worse than every type of male circumcision. People who do research and are aware of all the different types know this.

deeeeefinitelytrue · 2012-02-26T01:26:23+00:00

A lot of men fall victim to this hypocrisy as well... I'm not sure why you think your rights are only being suppressed by women on this count.

IHaveALargePenis · 2012-02-25T06:42:04+00:00

It's a fair point, but if you really want to piss off feminists just compare what feminists say about porn to what radical Muslims say about porn, then remove the sources. Both sides say virtually the exact same thing, exploitation of women, ruining marriage, unachievable expectations, etc. It's really hilarious once you look past the bigotry. It's even more hilarious when you realize both sides feel mutually about the other.

Irrel_M · 2012-02-25T08:35:43+00:00

It's because women have a right to their bodies and the foreskin is ugly and useless.

HURRDURRRR.

Equa1 · 2012-02-25T05:22:59+00:00

Spot on for the majority (not all) American women.

memymineown · 2012-02-25T05:28:59+00:00

So try to convince them not to do it.

Don't be harsh and don't start a debate. Bring it up in casual conversation and send them a few links.

Try to actually win them over, not make them feel bad. Also, read Dale Carnegie's How to Make Friends and Influence People.

IstheCakeReallyaLie · 2012-02-25T16:33:54+00:00

I think we should penis embargo these women. Like a boycott if you will.

MRMRising · 2012-02-25T22:01:39+00:00

How true, once feminists got FGM banned they all went of the Cafe for a Latte and have not raised a finger for MGM. Typical.

Mepsi · 2012-02-25T13:36:55+00:00

It's actually a culture which is encouraged by females not males, for example in Egypt.

Mothers won't let their sons marry uncircumsized/non-fgm females, they inspect them before giving the ok.

I watched a Newsnight piece on it on BBC2 the other week, some of the interviews with women promoters of it sounded crazy.

Also a little fact, 90% of women in Egypt have been genitally mutilated.

Edit: Also Mubarak's wife was one of the biggest campaigners against fgm, with the uprising having an unforeseen consequence on the matter.

Further edit for downvote: This is relevant because it's not just the double standard of the female opinion in the comic which is of importance, but also that they think fgm is strictly because of males.

In many places it's a culture encouraged and upheld by older females, unlike this comic example where females are the opposit sex of the male circumcision context.

picopallasi · 2012-02-25T11:50:45+00:00

Even more to bizarre to me is that in the Philippines they weight until you're 12 to do it. Awesome, huh?

HollowNinja · 2012-02-26T02:57:15+00:00

The idea that Islam requires circumcision is actually false, though most of my fellow Muslims aren't aware of it.

twentyone_21 · 2012-02-25T18:21:26+00:00

not trolling, I am curious, as a cut male, what are the downfalls of infant circumcision? Im fine with my stuff... you guys keep talking about how it harms the child, but I just never have read that anywhere else, and from personal experience, I am fine that my parents had it done to me. some of my uncut friends complain about having to clean theirs, but they would never have it cut. so I'm curious, what are the benefits of being uncut, or is it about the same number of pros and cons for each, and we're against baby mutilation? sorry if I came across as rude to the subject matter; I am just genuinely confused. I would just like this explained to me, or linked to articles explaining it.

edit: seriously, I'm not trolling, but if you think I am, feel free to downvote, but while doing that, could you link me to some info on the subject? just looking for an answer to these things.

gay_bro · 2012-02-25T08:29:04+00:00

Uncircumcised men are definitely more attractive

2012-02-25T16:47:55+00:00

What bothers me more than the Genital mutilation is "those barbaric Muslims".

RyanLikesyoface · 2012-02-25T05:33:32+00:00

Brilliant, dude. As someone who has spent a not insignificant time around women (four sisters, a buttload of girlfriends until I went MGTOW), I can attest to the almost universal truth of that ragecomic. That's the fucking thing- it's not an exaggeration. And I mean, we all know most women are self-obsessed solipsists, so in a weird sort of way the initial position almost makes sense... but then, even when explicitly confronted with their illogic, they'll lash out and scuttle away with crablike gaits. Fucking hell.

2012-02-26T02:29:16+00:00

Yup.

afndale · 2012-02-26T05:36:19+00:00

I think it's like cutting off a finger. I know a guy at work who's missing his left ring finger, never told me how he lost it. He can lift just fine without it.

Some people would say "Oh then it's no big deal to lose that finger, so it's no big deal to cut off the foreskin." No, bitch, the point is that we don't just go cutting off people's fucking fingers just because God told us to or because we think it's more aesthetically pleasing or whatever. We recognize the right to bodily integrity when it comes to fingers, yet somehow, the foreskin is just some weird piece of skin that doesn't count as part of the body or something like that.

XxDailyDreamxX · 2012-07-16T05:49:08+00:00

Female genital mutilation is horrible, but so is male genital mutilation. By what I have read there is NO benefit to female genital mutilation. I'm not sure if there are benefits to male mutilation. But I believe that people should be able to choose whatever they do with their genitals, when they are ADULTS. It's selfish for parents to do such a permanent thing to their child!

skooma714 · 2012-02-25T08:06:14+00:00

Women only care about things that affect them. Everyone and everything else is irrelevant.

The third (hypothetical) attitude is probably the most telling. I will only accept men that have had part of themselves cut off!

coldvault · 2012-02-25T11:30:58+00:00

Oh my God, this is so accurate. I make Jackie Chan face every time someone (male or female) supports male circumcision. It's just so illogical.

Lawtonfogle · 2012-02-25T15:03:16+00:00

I am disappointed that you missed the perfect opportunity to troll in that second stage.

2012-02-25T17:01:29+00:00

Honest question: Is this line of thinking common in America? In Europe it's usually "Cut or uncut?" "shrug - who gives a shit?" for every girl I've ever met. Yet on Reddit it's like this huge issue that everyone needs to talk about every other day.

typhonblue · 2012-02-25T17:23:32+00:00

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Wooperlooper · 2012-02-25T14:07:40+00:00

Though this brings up a good point, I do have to admit that female mutilation is much more severe and sexually harmful than circumcision. Having your clit cut off and your vagina sewn shut is not the same as removing a piece of (sensitive) skin from the penis.

daxmommy · 2012-02-25T13:38:04+00:00

all I have to say about this is yeah in some ways I guess you could land circumcision in with genital mutilation but APPARENTLY you don't know the FULL extent of muslim vaginal mutilation. They LITERALLY cut the woman's clitoris OFF. Not just some extra skin.....

http://lacirce.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/female-genital-mutilation-oil-1222-x-922.jpg

JohnMakesHisMove · 2012-02-25T15:34:03+00:00

Mens rights is becoming more and more like feminism. Its almost the same way I look at Christians and atheists. You hate each other, yet you sound like the same people

DevinV · 2012-02-25T07:07:05+00:00

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xebo · 2012-02-25T14:06:14+00:00

Quick question:

Why do most posts in this forum seem to be about feminists? Do they really need to be the topic if every discussion?

2012-02-29T10:05:49+00:00

If I had the choice of having my clitoris cut off vs. my foreskin cut off, I'd chose the foreskin 100/100 times.

country22 · 2012-02-25T20:26:02+00:00

The problem with this is, that FGM is not even CLOSE to comparable to circumcision. I am a feminist female ALL in favor of equal rights for men and women. EQUAL, not men having more or women having more, EQUAL.

But this is ridiculous.

Eryemil · 2012-02-25T08:20:07+00:00

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magister0 · 2012-02-25T09:45:54+00:00

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nepidae · 2012-02-25T09:18:50+00:00

/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu is <- way

I_Enjoy_Beer · 2012-02-25T16:48:30+00:00

My son is less than 2 weeks old. We had him circumcised while we were at the hospital.

U mad?

Title	Mind blowing double standard
Author	DanCorb
Upvotes	527
Comments	256
Date	February 25, 2012 5:01 AM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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