Accountability is redpill's kryptonite as it's mostly there to seethe

PMmeareasontolive · 2024-04-12T15:23:38+00:00

If you're somewhat average looking/status, stop being an excuse maker you do get your opportunities now ask yourself why it never lands and ill give you a hit, it's more likely to come from the common denominator that everyone else.

Do you give this same advice to women who complain about dating and/or want to give up dating?

VasiliyZaitzev · 2024-04-12T16:51:36+00:00

This is a generic criticism by someone who doesn’t understand what TRP is.

First, not everyone you meet is going to be fully mobilized as a man or fully “red pill” as it were. In fact, they’re going to be very few folks on Reddit who are because most guys leave once they have achieved they came to achieve.

Second, guys who think that hot guys are “assholes” are just not very far along in their red pill journey. It’s akin to claiming that “women only go for jerks.” Eventually, they figure out that you can sit around and whine and complain about how women go for assholes, or you can be an asshole that women like. “Asshole” is a guy who pursues his own interests, and put himself first. I’ve written a couple of top-level posts on this in TRP. The problem that these guys have is they think that women “should” like men who are “noble and good” and who is more noble and good than they are? That’s how you wind up with white knights and nice guys.

treadmarks · 2024-04-12T16:42:22+00:00

While i will admit that a portion sees it as an healthy source of motivation, for the most part it is used to justify either bitterness, giving up or being an asshole while dodging accountability. In order to do that it usually requires the use of double standards.

Ok where's the data for this statement of facts?

Oh right there is none. You are just making a bunch of worthless generalizations which only reflect your personal feelings towards the red pill. You have no idea how many it has helped or hurt.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-04-12T15:26:05+00:00

Sexual strategy is amoral

Hard_Corsair · 2024-04-12T15:02:59+00:00

but it's just a facade. It's mostly virtue signaling

You have it backwards. TRP isn't good on the outside and rotten on the inside. Rather, the core idea is great but the exterior has corroded. That's an important distinction because it defines the direction of causality. TRP isn't new marketing for old misogyny, it's a pragmatist take that incels hijacked. The key point of TRP is that dating is meritocracy, and the implication of meritocracy is that those without merit can go fuck themselves. So, people try TRP, see the painful truth, and then proceed to cope because they don't want to accept that they're garbage.

The real kryptonite to redpillers is Alec Baldwin yelling "PUT THE COFFEE DOWN... coffee is for closers only."

DarayRaven · 2024-04-12T15:24:52+00:00

While i will admit that a portion sees it as an healthy source of motivation

That's where your whole argument falls apart

TRP is not a source of motivation but INFORMATION, saying we don't take accountability is implying we preach morality which is inaccurate

TRP has nothing to be accountable for since again, we don't preach nor give prescriptions

MouthSandTeethTongue · 2024-04-12T14:52:48+00:00

You're clearly very invested in how repillers spend their time. What's a redpiller "improving" themselves vs. a redpiller "seething" (more specifically), in your opinion?

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-04-12T20:36:05+00:00

If you're somewhat average looking/status, stop being an excuse maker you do get your opportunities now ask yourself why it never lands and ill give you a hit, it's more likely to come from the common denominator that everyone else.

Can you prove it?

CHIN000K · 2024-04-12T21:24:36+00:00

While i will admit that a portion sees it as an healthy source of motivation, for the most part it is used to justify either bitterness, giving up or being an asshole while dodging accountability. In order to do that it usually requires the use of double standards

This isnt an either or situation. TRP is just a strategy for success with life/women centered around increasing your value as a man. It's a guideline, not a guarantee. You can internalize it all, get fit, self improve and still fail with women. Bitterness is a normal reaction in such cases.

As for "blaming" women part , it's more complicated. They don't blame women, they blame what they're wired to find attractive. They blame God. Women aren't to blame for what they like any more than a man is to be blamed for not being born with what women like.

AidsVictim · 2024-04-12T18:28:21+00:00

Just sounds like you have a chip on your shoulder to be honest.

Either the core of TRP, which is self improvement and observations about women's romantic-social behaviours, is reasonably correct and useful or it isn't. All the manosphere and conflation with black pill stuff is basically irrelevant to it on a practical level.

If you don't like or think TRPs observations about women are accurate then there's probably nothing that can be done to change your mind. But it's mostly just common sense social and sexual stuff which is sometimes "unflattering" to women but IMO more or less accurate to real life. Both men and women on a general level have aspects to their behaviors which are reasonably common but unpleasant to consider.

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John_Oakman · 2024-04-12T16:17:42+00:00

When the modern paradigm in secular liberal programs cultures is to voice grievances in the name of raising awareness, then seething is an actual actionable course of action.

RevealingPanda · 2024-04-12T20:11:13+00:00

You're describing exactly what blue pill men are like when they have recently discovered redpill. Redpill is about full accountability. It's about recognizing "what is" and finding your way through it.

Men that discover how it really is through redpill are often still bluepill and use these facts to externalize their problems, happily skipping over the parts where it tell you to find accountability in yourself.

Stunning-Spirit5275 · 2024-04-12T20:22:32+00:00

Being financially successful, physically fit and otherwise attractive, being sociable and renowned will make you attractive to MAJORITY of women in your dating pool. Basic fucking information. The problem is when men listen to these concepts, and for one reason or another cannot achieve them: become bitter, insecure and sexist. Information and what the receiver do with it are completely different things.

Bouldershoulders12 · 2024-04-12T20:37:29+00:00

TRP literally talks about owning your shit and self improvement which is accountability

BaronIncognito · 2024-04-16T23:11:55+00:00

A lot of guy stumble into the Red Pill like Tom in 500 Days of Summer. Many didn't have a father figure involved. They put woman on pedestals and think if they are just nice enough, they will be rewarded with sex and relationships. Red Pill is very good curing these and some other misconceptions in ways that "just be yourself!" and "you'll find the right one!" never will. Yes, some people take it to a dark place that's unfortunate but that doesn't negate the underlying principles. I think the self-improvement is more than a facade. There's a hunger for young men to be told, to be better. It's why Jordan Peterson has struck such a chord with young men.

Prudent-Conflict-557 · 2024-04-12T15:12:49+00:00

don’t want to accept that they’re garbage

Does this prove the “you need a better personality” response to incels or have I misunderstood

Title	Accountability is redpill's kryptonite as it's mostly there to seethe
Author	Jazzlike_Worth_9908
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Comments	125
Date	April 12, 2024 11:27 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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