Does the red pill/ Tate advice actually work?

bryansodred · 2023-08-31T02:04:45+00:00

Ppl gotta learn how to siphon info and reject what doesnt apply to you.

What ive taken from the red pill space is: focus on urself, build ur own value, dont prioritize women and when uve put in enough work, some women will take notice n wont play games with u. N even if they do play games, quickly kick em to the curb n move on. Thats it.

Wattehfok · 2023-08-31T04:20:46+00:00

Tate is 99% belligerent yelling, virulent misogyny and self-aggrandising; and 1% grindset boilerplate.

He appeals men like him - i.e dudes who haven’t found a way to process getting bullied in high school.

If someone says Tate has improved their life, that tells me something salient about how pathetic their life is. They deserve pity, not anger.

Busy_Ant_8160 · 2023-08-31T01:15:02+00:00

A lot of old school RP advice does work, but tbf >80% was pretty boilerplate advice you could find in most non-RP self-help dating books for men: don't be too desperate, don't make women the center of your life, go into a date not giving a fuck about whether or not you get laid, stuff like that.

Tate is a grifter (and probably a pimp) like most new school hedonistic RPers are.

harmonica2 · 2023-08-31T01:08:56+00:00

What does Tate actually say? I mean I know he says to go for women who are young and with a minimal amount of baggage and to be bold and initiating, but is that it, or does he have a lot more specific since I haven't read any of his books?

not-a-dude-at-all · 2023-08-31T07:31:27+00:00

No. RP goal is to make money, not to help you.

Substantial_Video560 · 2023-08-31T07:34:01+00:00

I can't abide Tate. I find him absolutely nauseating. Self opinionated and full of ego.

WYenginerdWY · 2023-08-31T07:37:48+00:00

"Groom yourself better and go to the gym" works because.....duh.

"Be a sexist asshole who sees and treats woman as inferior for reasons x y and z" doesn't.

Dudes see part A working and think part B is the real part of the equation bringing success.

WistfulPuellaMagi · 2023-08-31T02:00:54+00:00

Andrew Tate trafficked minors and didn’t believe the female orgasm was a thing. He’s an abusive rapist piece of shit honestly. Don’t believe his bullshit.

He also scammed his followers with his dumb “school”.

Safinated · 2023-08-31T01:06:27+00:00

It works on the people it works on

It doesn’t work on the people it doesn’t work on

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-08-31T04:36:54+00:00

your opinion

TRP is only as effective, as the individual who uses it. If one just lurks. LARPS. It’s of no consequence.

Conversely if one takes only ‘the core tenets,’ and applies them? Lifting. Making bank. Honing their social skills. It’s life changing.

Godspeed and good luck!

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-08-31T02:31:25+00:00

The advice only works if you understand why it works. Like a guy can't go out and neg a woman randomly and expect results. Or a guy can't just dread game his wife randomly. Like there needs to be cohesion.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-08-31T02:54:49+00:00

Andrew Tate was the Pokémon: go of his summer: he was popular for a hot minute, then everyone stopped paying attention and forgot about him as soon as school started back up. Two summers ago.

YearnsToDestroySun · 2023-08-31T01:36:06+00:00

Idk, I think red pill stuff is good strategy to keep women on their 'toes' (I say make them afraid they can lose you to another woman if they don't show any loyalty or respect for you as a partner) because women do think about men (and much of reality) in a very puerile manner (why feminism fails so many women), so if you want a woman, gonna have to handle (even manipulate) her blue pill ethos to keep the loyalty and peace.

However, I've heard Tate say things that unlike women, men are born without value so you have to earn it all. I don't find that kind of stuff particularly encouraging, especially since luck is a HUGE factor in life (hence why we have safety nets like welfare and food stamps).

To me, a better message would be guys are born with tons of value and you have to go out there and prove it - which is the feminist message to women, granted, but that message can be amended to add some grace as well to avoid the narcissistic traps many of the dumb/childish women fall for. I do think a counter-masculinist culture along these lines are way overdue though. Men, can take the good things from feminism, make it better, and represent as example instead of bitching to win the gender wars.

Plus, Tate doesn't strike me as a nuclear family man, so despite being a slightly slanted right-winger myself, he doesn't seem to me to be very compelling as a healthy role-model.

Addressing the paternal role of a man is very fucking crucial to being a good role-model for men. Teach men that toxic feminity does exist, how to fight against it, and not to be cowards to be dad's (society so desperately need right now, the feminist kool-aid still has everyone believing single moms can do it all when 80% of single moms are fucking delusional jokes when it comes to child-rearing). And even when psycho moms take you to court with a ton of threats, Men cower over this crap because they don't know how to handle it and it's sad 😭

SoldierExcelsior · 2023-08-31T03:59:11+00:00

I've watched quite a bit of Andrew Tates content and I have to say I agree with everything I've heard so far..

If you hit the gym get fit and become a millionaire you will get more women than you can handle.

Most men can't or won't put in the extreme effort required of women's high demands these days and it's a bit disheartening when your putting in effort and you see bums getting women with seemingly no effort.

I won't say Tates advice won't work but how realistic is it in reality to achieve that level of succes they advocate..

I would let my sons watch Andrew Tate I think he has better content for men than anything in the mainstream .

mvnnyvevwofrb · 2023-08-31T11:04:27+00:00

I think Tate actually does motivate some people to improve their life. However, it has all to do with money and raising your social status and raising your value to women. I just think it's really shallow and depressing. And it's depressing that this is all women actually care about.

ROBYoutube · 2023-08-31T01:19:10+00:00

If you actually went to the gym and got buff, applied yourself to your career and got mad paid, and then walked up to hundreds of women in order to let them know how buff and paid you are, there is a non zero chance it will work. So yeah. It 'works'. It's also advice that is often so bad as to be actively harming your ability to succeed in dating.

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roger61962 · 2023-08-31T07:21:13+00:00

Tate? Who cares?

RP is banned here.

Before there was a "field report sub" - would have answered your questions

Stergeary · 2023-08-31T10:48:46+00:00

The "right" red pill advice does work, the "grifter" red pill shit is just for validating resentful men, such as the Fresh n Fit and Whatever Podcast and shit.

pterry-dactl · 2023-08-31T12:56:03+00:00

There's actually an incentive for it NOT to work that well.

If the advice worked well and these men rode into the sunset, they would cease spending hours on these forums and liking/sharing content every day.

The content needs to have nuggets of truth, and stuff that's relatable and invokes emotion and anger. But those men need to keep coming back for more so that the grifters can make more money.

I believe it's the same with dating apps. There's an incentive for the apps not to work well, because they want users to come back for more.

Notanothrshitthrow · 2023-08-31T13:32:41+00:00

The stuff that "works" is really just stuff you'll hear in other dating advice communities and materials, it's typical self help bullshit wrapped up in needless machismo waffle.

Tate is an absolute no go.

Clementinequeen95 · 2023-08-31T14:26:06+00:00

As a woman I can say I have never once ever met a girl who would even date a man who listens to Andrew Tate. Never ever. All of us see it as a massive red flag.

SillyMushroomTip · 2023-09-01T21:15:12+00:00

Red Pill works however these online guru bobbleheads are still preaching traditionalism as well. I think its a lot of denial of what actually is happening.

Men need to start playing the game for their benefit; just like Women have been doing the last 30 years.

Stay Savage

Title	Does the red pill/ Tate advice actually work?
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Date	August 31, 2023 1:01 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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