why does the fact that women have high standards and find most men unattractive piss you guys (men of ppd) off?

SerpentCypher · 2019-10-18T23:39:01+00:00

Same reason fat women get offended when guys aren't attracted to them, or women with a high N-count REEEEEE about men having a preference for non-promiscuous women and try to shame the preference away.

People don't like others having standards that exclude them.

Orange_Paisley · 2019-10-18T23:46:45+00:00

They don’t understand that it’s a feature not a bug. If you have a wife and a girlfriend and she finds most other men unattractive, she is far less likely to cheat on you with those men.

Littleknownfacts · 2019-10-18T23:34:30+00:00

Because they aren't in the 20% of guys. Duh.

AnotherUserName10698 · 2019-10-19T00:24:46+00:00

It's more that they lie about it.

wingbark · 2019-10-18T23:43:56+00:00

It doesn’t piss me off at all. I don’t care.

angels-fan · 2019-10-18T23:48:47+00:00

It's not so much that any individual woman has high standards, but society itself has such high standards for the men women date.

If society and the FSM championed women being with low value men, most women wouldn't feel this cultural need for a top 20% guy.

nietzsches_country · 2019-10-19T00:16:52+00:00

I agree it isn't helpful to waste energy bemoaning it. I'd rather just be asexual if no women are going to be attracted to me anyway.

wekacuck · 2019-10-19T00:45:58+00:00

It doesn't really piss me off so much as "holy shit how could I have been so fucking dense no fucking duh".

Jathrowaway97 · 2019-10-19T00:00:47+00:00

Scarcity mentality and bitterness at not being in the top 20%. If someone really liked vanilla ice cream. Yet every time they went into the store to buy it was sold out then later they find out it’s the same 20 people buying and eating all the vanilla ice cream they’ll probably be pissed, even though those 20 people paid for the ice cream fair and square, and they don’t NEED the vanilla ice cream. It’s irrational but understandable.

custoscustodis · 2019-10-19T00:36:35+00:00

It doesn't bother me in the least. I know why women have options: they have what men want, plain and simple.

Knowing how the game works, I skew it in my favor.

Instead of lamenting how attractive women are chasing guys who are 8-10. I don't waste time chasing women who have no interest in me. Instead I deal with women who find me to be a "10." Each person's pyramid is relative and differs in circumstances. Find your niche (your "personal pyramid") and work from there. You'll be a lot happier with your own romantic life than stressing over what a few men and women are doing.

oneprettycoolcat · 2019-10-19T04:05:15+00:00

Because it means I don't often get laid, so of course I'm not happy about it. Why else would it? Also women lie about it.

kezosla · 2019-10-19T05:05:26+00:00

So here's the deal.

These women have unrealistic standards. Plain and simple.

Their standards can never be satisfied if you let it run. The only reason why these women "settle down" is because of the wall. If these women were like men with reproductive capabilities lasting decades similar to men, these women would still latch on to these unrealistic standards.

The reason why I am pissed is because these same women rejected me when I was down. But they are coming in droves and "showing interest" when I am successful. I HATE THAT FACT. Who wouldn't hate this double standard? What does that really tell you? I don't want to live in a unfair world and I WON'T INCENTIVIZE A WORLD THAT IS UNFAIR TO PEOPLE NEEDLESSLY.

Another reason: I don't like used goods. But not all of it. I have a Nokia mobile I bought in 2009 and still keep it in my drawer because of sentimental value it holds to me. i have used it for countless hours and it lasted for years and I have to buy a new one only because I needed android mobile. But if you give me some random old ass mobile and expect me to like it, I will tell you to fuck off and throw that shit away.

I would have done the same if a woman showed interest towards me at their prime years. But now, at 29, all these post wall 30 year olds my age are expecting me to save them. FUCK OFF LADIES.

This is why I am incredibly pissed off. I am going to be a strong and independent man and be like these women keep doing this until I hit my "wall" rather than get roped in and "save" these women.

TL;DR-- Hoes are mad that the unfair world they created is now turning its back on them.

HWGA_Gallifrey · 2019-10-19T05:12:28+00:00

Can't miss what you never had...

DuckingAroundYT · 2019-10-19T16:26:06+00:00

I mean no one likes to be rejected & it’s easy to build up resentment at the world that you’re in the category of people who is continuously rejected over and over.

That’s how I thought when I was younger. Throughout middle school and early high school.

It’s a defeatist mindset though and doesn’t actually solve anything. One needs to look inwardly for the solution, not just scream outwardly.

binkerfluid · 2019-10-19T02:50:37+00:00

if it were guys only wanting the top 20% of women we would be told to fuck off and lower our standards. That its misogynistic we have unrealistic standards for what a "real women" is and that all sizes are beautiful.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2019-10-19T03:11:07+00:00

Because dicks be dry bro

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geyejoe7 · 2019-10-21T14:29:40+00:00

It used to annoy me, because I had a lot to offer, but I thought my looks prevented me from doing so.

Turns out it was the whole me.

It's heartbreaking when you realise your whole identity is the reason you're alone. So I blamed it on women having high standards.

But over time, I started focusing more on being polite, funnier, more interesting, and how to show my skills (like drawing for example).

I also accepted myself as I am. And that I didn't need to change my core beliefs and interests.

So when I finally found a gf I realized how stupid I was for blaming it all on women having high standards.

And not all women want the same things. That's alsl important to note.

wtknight · 2019-10-19T00:30:39+00:00

Because many men feel that, no matter how hard they try, they'll never get into that 20%, or if they somehow work incredibly hard and do, they'll still not be as successful as a natural Chad. It's a profound sense of unfairness at the world that seems to get taken out on women because they're the ones who are the actual "gatekeepers."

NalkaNalka · 2019-10-19T00:10:41+00:00

It doesn't

[deleted] · 2019-10-19T00:24:49+00:00

I'm good looking, so no problem.

Bntt89 · 2019-10-19T01:46:05+00:00

Probably because they arent honest about it, and average and below average realistically dont deserve the high standards they demand. It's like an incel saying he deserves a 10/10 while having the incel mindset or even nice guys want a dime or some shit. They are literally the average and below average what makes them think they deserve the best? But their is no real reason to be made at them for it, if they want to be the casual sex for the top men I mean go ahead, eventually they will settle for an average guy regardless because their are only so many top men. But I mean nice guys get hate too right? They are hated because they expect this while not doing anything exceptional. I think the same applies for why some men get made at these women, they obviously dont get mad at the hottest women right because they are the hottest.

The3liGator · 2019-10-19T02:12:06+00:00

"Why do you complain about an economic system that makes you poor?"

It also has to do with the lies that people grew up with and are still spread around.

firstpitchthrow · 2019-10-19T04:55:08+00:00

The user who said "because people don't like others having standards that exclude them" is the right answer.

However, I will offer what my view on it is, from my own perspective, and its something I doubt anyone else shares, but, I absolutely don't have a problem with women having standards. Even if those standards are, in my opinion, way too high. Everyone is entitled to have standards as high as they want to, its a personal thing. We think that if standards are too high, then you'll never get anything and you'll be miserable, and maybe you will be, but that was your choice. As long as you admit, later on, that yeah, you're miserable because of your high standards and not because I couldn't meet them, then we have no problems.

What gets to me is that no one told me the truth from the start. I was suckered by all the "just be yourself" bull-shit and was told that girls liked guys who acted a certain way, so I tried to be that way. It didn't work. My loss, I listened to the wrong people.

I have no issue with anyone having whatever standards they want to have, so long as they're honest about it. Its fine to have high standards, just don't have high standards and then complain that no one can meet those standards and that those who do are threatened by a person with high standards.

crackrocksteady7 · 2019-10-19T05:09:20+00:00

i think its funny seeing this after i pointed out all the below average in the pics thread and everyone hated me for it hahahhaha

[deleted] · 2019-10-19T05:24:07+00:00

A hypergamous society is not stable. Look at countries with monogamous traditions vs those with polygamous traditions.

I value monogamy not because I couldn’t manage in a polygamous society, I easily could, but because such a society would stop progressing.

BRAHzilianSigma · 2019-10-19T09:21:56+00:00

If only 20% of women could get relationships (which im equating to men having as much sex as they want) then they would be mad too

panzerbier · 2019-10-19T06:50:36+00:00

BECAUSE YOU LIE ABOUT IT.

Young boys in society are indoctrinated into the Disney fantasy where they genuinely believe that they only "have to be themselves" and the "right one" will come. This leads to years and years of heartbreak and then the "right one" turns out to be a post-wall CC rider and comes a dead-bedroom marriage and finally a divorce rape.

If society just told men plain and simple "unless you are in the top 20% you will never be truly desired" the bottom 80% could just get on with their fucking lives and probably end up kind of contented and rich.

BUT YOU BITCHES WILL NEVER DO THAT BECAUSE IT THREATENS YOUR MEAL TICKET. You WANT betabux. You WANT attention from dozens of orbiters. You WANT that divorce settlement. So you fucking put on a show and lie and deceive and then laugh about it and millions of guys get their hopes and lives ruined.

That's the fucking problem. Get it now?

Barely-moral · 2019-10-19T06:59:00+00:00

Two reasons:

1- I don't like that the world is unfair. I get it, it is how it is but I don't have to be happy about it.

2- I have seen enough women settle down for a Beta bucks and treat the poor sucker way worse than the way they treated their previous partners. Fuck that shit. A guy has to work in order to become attractive and all he gets is an old woman that gives him half of the sex and half of the enthusiasm she gave to chad (who by the way didn't have to waste his youth improving)

Also, biology can be changed, we are on our way to that. And the incentive structure can be changed in a way that hypergamy is heavily punished.

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