AskReddit thread about refusing to be open-minded discusses TRP

Jovianmoons · 2013-11-30T21:13:13+00:00

I supposed I shouldnt be surprised (but I am) when it comes to peoples knee-jerk reaction to TRP. Do they even check it out for themselves? No. Do they have any inclination to? No. Their opinion is based on heresay and conjecture. The lack of critical thinking on reddit is really fucking ridiculous.

insane_psycho · 2013-11-30T20:44:58+00:00

Did you really give a fuck about what these people think?

http://www.thumotic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/reddit-meetup.jpg

*there's a whole subreddit dedicated to meetups where you can view more.

mdadm · 2013-11-30T21:14:56+00:00

I'm seriously surprised at the amount of people threatening personal attacks... all because of an idea they don't agree with.

randarrow · 2013-11-30T21:24:17+00:00

Trp is just accepting the biology we are governed by.

Its not a woman hating thing, I like women anyways...

This place just accepts low value men will be cheated on and fucked over more often than not. Women are attracted to high value men, they aren't attracted to nice personalities. That men in relationships should focus on their own needs first rather than serve solely their wives.

That's not woman hating.

Edit~ just read a post seriously suggesting this place is for Nazi glorification.... I think people have issues with being objective.

ZenNate · 2013-11-30T20:43:33+00:00

They simply don't understand what TRP is about. This is my first day knowing and subscribing to this sub, so I may not understand everything yet. But from what I've read so far it seems that TRP is not about hating women but about being objective and honest as to what the rules of the game are and how to use that information to play it as well as one can. Women do that and don't hide the fact that they do. Why can't men strategize as well?

I have to say that so far I am blown away by this sub. I've been reading for hours and I feel like I have a markedly better understanding of human nature for my efforts. This is a really cool community.

cagethepepper · 2013-12-01T00:59:15+00:00

The High Council of Virgins have mentioned us again? What a shame!

moorethanafeeling · 2013-11-30T22:15:32+00:00

I keep seeing women asking things like "how do I cut these kind of men out of my life?" or "how do I make sure the guy I'm sleeping with isn't one of those guys?"

I don't know, maybe get to know the men you're letting inside of you. Maybe demand a relationship every once in a while instead of sleeping around in your 20's and being bitter and single in your 30's.

These kinds of questions are perfect examples of why TRP works. Just the question itself proves it.

[deleted] · 2013-11-30T23:13:19+00:00

The idea of men having more control in relationships freaks women out.

Weak guys will do anything to to be on any woman's good side so they'll white knight even if it fucks them over.

JohnGalt316 · 2013-12-01T02:54:35+00:00

fishermen don't give a fuck if a fish hates them and neither should we

sushisection · 2013-11-30T20:32:36+00:00

Hold up, do any of you guys think men are "superior?" I see it as men and women as being "equal" but with different traits, most notably different sexual desires.

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randarrow · 2013-11-30T20:12:28+00:00

I lost 50 karma responding to these posts. What a bunch of fascists.

rule_of_law · 2013-11-30T21:53:16+00:00

Guckalienblue:

The father of my children goes on there. It's really how he thinks and acts.

This is the best response in the thread. It's also a great way to deal with these people. Don't try and defend it; just be nonchalant and jovial while instilling some doubt in their heads. "Obviously this guy is making a joke, but is he being serious at the same time?"

gohammer3 · 2013-11-30T22:07:03+00:00

I'm ok with women being upset, but the reactions from some of the men actually makes me cringe.

Satchmo84 · 2013-11-30T21:56:28+00:00

The one "unbiased" comment I could find from someone who appeared to genuinely try to understand TRP even fell off the mark, at least for me when he said our actions are guided by anger. Mine are not, and I hope for the rest of you on here or anyone new reading this that you aren't. It's been explained on here so many times and it's still valid. Would you be angry at a dog for jumping up and eating the steak off your plate if you left it there? No! It's their nature! Of course the dog wants the steak! Of course women want to fuck the Alpha! Its in their genetic makeup. This sub is about improving yourself and your ability to interact with women so you become that Alpha, be happy with who you are, women will see that and want to be around you and with you. Everyday I find something I can use to improve myself, and improve my interactions with women. The only thing I'm mad about is not finding this sooner.

jsl2837 · 2013-12-01T07:41:15+00:00

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What is this?

PrismaticFire · 2013-12-01T03:49:17+00:00

A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep.

BIG_Daddy_Government · 2013-12-01T07:55:29+00:00

First, I'm happy about not many people knowing about this place. the only time i'm happy is when a poor beta male is in a really shitty situation that he got in without a choice, as for others they're responsible for their own actions.

I'd hate it if this sub gets more popular at a faster rate, I feel that the more betas people are, the more oblivious women are to their own solipsism, the more the hamsters work; the more it would contrast with people like us who swallowed the pill the hard way or by having enough self-knowledge to drop down the lies facade in our society.

Second, this quote astonished me.

That's a little harsh. My boyfriend subscribes to TRP. But it's so we can make fun of them later..

TRP is filled with guys of the highest honor, nobility, and humbleness. Why? The first reaction to commoners is being disrespectful or insulting back to people who mock. TRP's first reaction would be pity on the boyfriend who's under his girlfriend's whims. Needless to say we already know how this will play out simply by that 1 sentence from his girlfriend. we have knowledge enough to discern what platform the nuts and bolts are from, in a huge flow chart called life.

redpillschool · 2013-12-01T07:17:08+00:00

"A belief you refuse to be open-minded about"

Well, at least they're honest. Sometimes I think the red pill analogy is a little campy, but, wow, these people are trying hard to play into the metaphor.

Had to lol at a couple of the posts. Particularly the gentleman who informed me subscribing to this sub meant I'd never get an "honest and open" relationship with a woman.

Been there, tried that. I was honest. I was open. And then I was single. Turns out babbling on about your feelings doesn't seem to keep women attracted. Who knew?

But then again, it's probably because I didn't get enough counseling or therapy. I just didn't communicate like I needed to.

I'm a monster.

Manuel_S · 2013-11-30T22:37:54+00:00

I must admire this bit of humor:

"[-] Guckalienblue : Because I think you would make a great provider as a comedian.

[-] hungerartist_ : what?"

GushyWetWet15 · 2013-12-01T00:51:13+00:00

god the whiteknights and manginas are beyond fucking cringeworthy. also im just loling at the women there who say shit like "if i ever found out a guy was on trp i would stop talking to him" no honey, no you won't. all women would pick a RPer over a beta 8 days a fucking week

tr0n_cat · 2013-12-01T04:33:24+00:00

Why should any of us care?

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Flaydogg · 2013-12-01T08:02:15+00:00

Haha that thread is how i learned about trp, and i like it so far... I'm female

ajswdf · 2013-11-30T21:47:13+00:00

There was one comment there that was 100% correct, the one by /u/PineConeKing. It's too long to post here, but he essentially says that the ideas behind TRP are correct, but:

And in the end, with Red Pillers being guided by their anger, they become so focused on things like sex, control, and making out women to be the "enemy," they miss the ability to really connect and bond with another in a truly open and honest relationship. (I should add, many in TRP will discuss similar described issues with women in marriage, so in their minds, there is no escaping the problem).

Or as his tl;dr says:

The red pill consists of many men who have been hurt in the past by women. Their efforts to prevent future problems can often reveal some unfortunate truths about much of our society, but their solutions are driven by anger, and this can manifest in very extreme ways. (i.e. You can never trust a woman). This approach also prevents many of them from truly connecting and being honest with women. (Although it is a bit more complex than that still).

This is exactly what I've found. Often on here I've seen people say stuff like "Women are so emotional/always cheat/etc." when in reality Men are also emotional and cheat and all of that.

Everybody else just insults it without really making any specific arguments.

randomkloud · 2013-12-01T01:51:15+00:00

.Basically their whole philosophy is that men and women are different species, with men being the superior.

you know, I've been with this sub for quite some time now and not once, NOT ONCE, have I seen anyone else seriously saying this.

edit: it's telling that most of their counter arguments against us are ad hominems.

Endevour · 2013-12-01T12:43:03+00:00

Notice how many posts start out as "Wow, I just looked at this sub, and-" And then they suddenly go in debth about beta bucks/alpha fucks, monkey branching, shit testing, and other terms which you'd need a fair bit of lurking to understand.

dre_day4 · 2013-12-01T03:31:44+00:00

I could go without some of the dumb things we discuss, we probably look like assholes to outsiders.

Red Pill and game theory has helped me break out of my introverted shell. I can properly escalate with a girl I like, not afraid of showing that I like her. I have become less fearful of rejection in life and have a new understanding of how social dynamics work.

[deleted] · 2013-12-01T04:28:32+00:00

Why do they ALWAYS automaticlly think we look DOWN on women. That we want to make them into some sort of sub class of humanity. WTF...... do people even know how to read?

[deleted] · 2013-12-01T06:55:56+00:00

Daily reminder TRP will eventually be booted off reddit.

**Every time I post this someone says "reddit has free speech tho!" or "we're following the rules!"

It doesn't matter. Look at OP thread: these people can't even read the sidebar without whipping themselves into a frothy rage and spewing non-truths about what this sub is about. Now remember that the reddit top mods are just like this but even more extreme.

drrrrrr · 2013-12-01T09:40:07+00:00

People will always refuse to be open-minded about things they are religious about. I believe that society essentially constructs a religion about how to treat women, work your life away to provide for others, and constantly seek validation. TRP is an anti-religion, and a very brutal one at that.

So of course it's the one thing people cannot and will not even entertain as a possibility. It's like how fundamentalist Christians or any religion will simply not consider the arguments of athiesm. They just won't.

It's like trying to explain to someone in SJW or cultural marxism that both capitalism and globalism both have a lot of very beneficial elements. It just isn't going to work because they are religious about their beliefs.

Which is FINE. I used to read a lot of investment / stock books, and one of the fundamental points in one of them (can't remember which) was "let others employ bad investment strategies to their heart's content." Let others be zealots and fanatics who religiously pour money into ventures that currently are in society's spotlight. This is healthy and natural. If you want to rationalize yourself out of pussy and try your best to eek out a best-case scenario existence of someone like Phil on Modern Family, GOOD FOR YOU, BUDDY! Go get those post-wall women while you are 23, wife em up, and work your ass off for them, while patting yourself on the back for being a good provider. Your suboptimal mating strategy makes mine all the more potent.

semigod__ · 2013-12-01T17:16:45+00:00

this thread was great.

Even the logical arguments made for certain things have a sinister undertone to them.

if it doesnt feel right (e.g. it feels "sinister"), it must be wrong.

nSaneMadness · 2013-11-30T22:44:16+00:00

One of these days I'm going to go into one of those angsty anti-TRP posts and ask the white knights how much they enjoy paying for everything with women, while receiving little reciprocation for their endeavors.

IWillAlwaysReplyBack · 2013-11-30T23:12:08+00:00

Some people you just can't reach....

VelociReactor · 2013-12-01T02:17:29+00:00

You know, I used to BE a pickup artist. Sort of. I haven't engaged in actual sex in over a year because of regret and worry that I'll slip into the old habits. Red Pill is my least favorite subreddit.

And there we have it. Because not having sex for a year+ is easier that accepting the cold hard truth.

nwbud · 2013-12-01T04:10:29+00:00

tl;dr, here is their anti-redpill logic:

TRP = politically incorrect ideas about women = misogyny

Opioidus · 2013-12-01T05:03:12+00:00

Isn't it funny that in an attempt to bash red pill one of the white knight faggots hopes that one of the whores succeeds in preventing a father to influence his children because he disagrees with him? I mean not funny ha ha, but funny ironic.

PS. Mmm, delicious, send those people who have no idea what red pill here, in a pathetic attempt to justify your denial to accept the truth and looking for validation.. yes, send 'em to us, that's how we find new members.

ekjohnson9 · 2013-12-01T14:34:13+00:00

They hate the jargon we use. That's pretty much 99% of it.

SystemHalifax · 2013-11-30T21:21:31+00:00

You know how there is that 1 person that asks what TRP is about, but then someone with anti-TRP views is the one explaining what's going on, and what's more they put in their personal views (which is obviously not a good way to explain things)?

Well, maybe we could PM the person what doesn't necessarily understand what TRP is and explain to them what it is (without personal views because then we would seem needy)- or is it a lost cause?

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Gorgonzola54 · 2013-12-01T17:58:02+00:00

Honestly? I'm glad. Leave the idiots behind.

StoicThePariah · 2013-12-02T02:53:24+00:00

It's so scary thinking about how my daughter and son will turn out but it also makes me think what I did to attract that. I think I need to work on myself too.

Which is exactly why you hate the red pill, because it makes men realize you are fucked up.

Title	AskReddit thread about refusing to be open-minded discusses TRP
Author	randarrow
Upvotes	128
Comments	237
Date	November 30, 2013 8:10 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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