Clean up after yourself

wtfawdNoWeddingShoes · 2016-07-05T23:22:54+00:00

The initial naysayers don't surprise me but not living in a messy shithole does a lot for mental clarity.

VisionThink · 2016-07-06T05:12:08+00:00

This is probably my biggest weakness. My job demands that I be very orderly and when I get home I just don't want to feel like I'm at work anymore. I'm way better at producing (cooking, planning) than cleaning up after myself. I even think I got dumped when I was 20 because my girlfriend said my 50 square foot dorm room was filthy.

trpjnf · 2016-07-06T00:51:55+00:00

There's no easier way to kill productivity than to leave a bunch of little shit like this undone. Especially the basic ones, like taking out the trash and doing laundry.

In the back of your head, you know you have to do it at some point. But you're being a lazy shit and procrastinating. No biggie, you think. You'll take care of it later. Except when later comes, you've got more important things to do, and the little chores get ignored. They start to build up. Eventually, the little chores look like monumental tasks.

If you've got these huge cleaning jobs to take care of, that you continue to leave undone, how can you hope to achieve those higher-order goals, like writing, making music, or building your career? You can't even keep your room clean, you lazy fuck.

AlphaEndoGorillaKing · 2016-07-06T02:45:31+00:00

A lot of guys here are on the brink of depression and being in a clean environment will help lean the odds in their favor.

Archwinger · 2016-07-06T04:42:58+00:00

If someone is going to the gym six days a week, but not washing his sheets or dishes, something doesn't add up. You can't care and do the work, and not care and shirk the work, at the same time.

thomasbkin · 2016-07-05T23:53:32+00:00

Quality post. This is the shit I want to see on TRP. I find that it's significantly easier to think in a clean space.

Metalgear222 · 2016-07-06T05:36:27+00:00

Don't try to create some kind of jenga tower of trash. LMFAO

ransay3277 · 2016-07-06T00:55:46+00:00

Major thumbs up to you. When you look like you have your shit together: then you will have your shit together. Or to reverse it. If your place is a mess: you are a mess. A tip that has worked for me. At the beginning of the season/year, hang your cloths in your closet by reversing the hanging hook. As you use your cloths hang them up normally. At the end of the season/year, see which cloths are still reverse hung. Consider goodwill. Same applies for drawers.

sexowlinyourwindow · 2016-07-06T03:45:26+00:00

The body of what you wrote was 'don't be a complete slob' which is absolutely fine but isn't the same as your summary.

I've known too many guys who kept their shit perfectly tidy and organised who were still worthless to believe that.

Heathcliff-- · 2016-07-06T01:14:16+00:00

Cannot stress this more. How can you call yourself a functioning human being if you can't even keep your place clean? In fact how can you call yourself a functioning mammal... nest organisation and cleanliness is a skill almost all nesting animals have... You're the apex predator, should be good at it by now.

It's one of the first steps in your hierarchy of needs. You can't expect to achieve higher functions like creativity or discipline without first having fed yourself well, had adequate sleep and organised your surroundings.

xray777 · 2016-07-06T05:36:26+00:00

Mad Men is a fantastic source for RP material illustrated in art.

Don is in a meeting with the lovely, savvy, and untouchable Rachel Menken when he loses a cuff link. She later gives him new ones when he visits her department store and comments "You're usually so put together."

That line stuck with me and helped me tie up my own loose ends.

Be put together. Keep your appearance up. Plan for contingencies. Have extras of anything vital. Double check anything critical. Have plans B and C. Don't be clumsy. Learn to be composed when you are. Don't be late. Leave a factor of safety in anything important.

Be put together.

bourbonhipster · 2016-07-06T01:54:19+00:00

I judge people in the office who keep a consistent slobbish desk arrangement. Most people are gross

clon3man · 2016-07-06T03:45:12+00:00

I think being clean is important once you've committed to improving other shit in your life. It's not the first thing I'd tackle personally.

I'm not a pig who lets dishes or clothes pile up but I do have clutter here and there. It's really not going to improve my life at all to raise the bar, and the work is going to be un-done by my roomates.

While I get some therapeutic benefits from cleaning, there's no way I generate enough momentum from it to give a shit about the stuff that really matters.

I keep my body clean and I don't leave things around that smell. Good enough.

Cogito_ErgoSum · 2016-07-06T04:06:52+00:00

Its funny, because I clean when I procrastinate.

[deleted] · 2016-07-06T02:12:12+00:00

Very true. I like that you point out that maids and landscapers etc are an option as well. One of the key things here that some people don't seem to understand, or at least they forget it whenever it is convenient, is that women (and men, basically everybody) don't care HOW things get done.

Women don't want to hear about how much effort you put into working out to have that body, or how hard it was to do anything. They just want to see the results. If it was effortless for you that's even better. Just like they don't really care how you keep a tidy and organized house/life. If it makes more sense to you from a cost/reward aspect to hire people to do this stuff for you then do it.

GnarlyBellyButton87 · 2016-07-06T08:29:36+00:00

I've had this problem since my birth, and no matter what, I can't seem to do anything about it. I just don't notice it until wherever I am becomes a shithole.

falling_tiger · 2016-07-06T01:04:07+00:00

Your living space, possessions and environment are a direct reflection of who you are. As you take pride in your appearance, so also take pride in the state of your feeling and affairs. Just as your girlfriend or ltr is a reflection of your screening process.

Cleaning is not "women's shit". To the extent that it bothers you, you will clean your living space. I've seen a dumb fuck demand his wife clean his house when he himself wouldn't lift a finger. If your wife isn't retarded, respects you to the least degree and professes to love you, she will clean and tidy the house. But only if she can see tidiness and cleanliness is something you value. And that means YOU tidying the house anytime you think the house is a mess, or that she's unable or unwilling to.

Trumpanoly · 2016-07-06T03:12:52+00:00

Don't be the hero who goes full out and cleans the house from top to bottom in 3+ hours.

It is all about consistency. Clean 1 area or 1 thing daily. For example the toilet one day, inside of the microwave the next. Every. Fucking. Day.

I like to clean during cooking.

And pro cooking tip: Clean as you go. Have all the dishes done before you eat the food, and make sure your kitchen is ready to go for next time.

Unless you live in a mansion and require paid help there is no excuses for a messy place.

DennisReynoldsAMA · 2016-07-06T04:07:06+00:00

Last week there was a post teaching us retards how to brush our teeth and floss. This week there's a post teaching us retards how to be clean. Seriously are there seven year olds here on the redpill who need to read these? Do you think people here are that retarded to need to be told to make their bed and floss?

ghengiscock · 2016-07-06T01:57:34+00:00

I've put this off for way too long. Partially because I've been hoping that my roommates would kick in some, but mostly because I've been a lazy fuck for the past several months. Finally got around to cleaning my room when I got back into TRP, but I've still put off the rest of the house (and the carpet that my roommate's dog destroyed).

Can't forget the car either. Probably just get it detailed, but I've got to eventually get that windshield replaced as well...

I_Need_More_Space_ · 2016-07-06T05:36:31+00:00

I'll play devil's advocate and state that your assertion is not an absolute. Being "clean" does not make you successful, and being "messy" at home does not make you unsuccessful.

I'm sure there are some dudes with clean studio apartments that work at Wendy's. And I'm sure there are some "slobs" that have comfortable lives and/or good jobs.

And I agree that many people like neat and organized and clean. Sure. Does time always allow for a 24/7 clean house? No. Does having many outdoors hobbies affect your clean house. Yes.

Clean is good. But, sometimes I'd rather go rock climbing in the mountains all weekend rather than clean my place. So, my place suffers into the following week. No dirty dishes and food out or anything like that. And I drop my laundry off at the cleaners.

But, God damn any behavior that robs you of thrills, memories, and joy. Being an anal cleaner can be a problem as well. Anal cleaners are anal because they spend so much God damn time at home. Home-bodies are definitely at risk for wasting hours that add up to days/years of there lives wasted cleaning or playing world of Warcraft, playing fantasy sports (I still don't understand that at all), or doing whatever the fuck at home.

Your dwelling has the potential to rob you of valuable time living. Find the balance. Cheers.

FeederPatrol · 2016-07-06T06:06:40+00:00

Man I struggle with this so hard. Really need to follow this, nice work OP

tb87670 · 2016-07-06T06:44:32+00:00

I live in an organized mess. Everything is in drawers and I have lots of shelf and desk space, but out on that desk space is shit I'm doing. Be it de-magnetized tools to work on a computer, book I'm reading, one of my smaller projects or sketches for a project etc. I had a few women comment I'm too clean when I go out of the way and clean my room before bringing them in there. Odd right? But most women are a mess, they just toss their clothes and joke 'yeah I'm not a clean person LOL' I mean I don't care you are flinging your clothes off in my room, that shit happens, but they act as if being messy is a cool thing.

This is where things get weird. When I leave like one change of clothes out on my computer chair, a few tools out, a few drawers open or have stuff out (I have organizers too) and it looks like I'm clean yet also busy as hell they commented how awesome clean my room is. Like really? I had it spotless and have gotten negative comments or no comments, leave a slight organized mess I have gotten several positive comments. Any takers on explaining this? I'm too tired right now and meeting a gal when I wake up, best I have is it shows I'm "alpha" by actually having a life instead of being an OCD "beta"......this is a guess :/

mitzibishi · 2016-07-06T07:09:12+00:00

Thanks for telling me how to adult.

Hjalmbere · 2016-07-06T07:22:32+00:00

I have a cleaner come clean my house once a week. Specialization is the key to success in the modern world. Hence it's better to hone your skills and make more money so you can afford to hire someone who is an expert at cleaning instead of doing it all yourself.

thechaosz · 2016-07-06T08:03:35+00:00

Jenga tower of trash... Oh those college years lol

starkiwi · 2016-07-06T08:39:38+00:00

Summary: Perhaps there is no better way to tell how much a man has his shit together than by how organized he is and how neat and clean he keeps his dwelling and possessions.

Once you do have your shit together, you'll begin to notice this in others too (and judge them on it). You'll realize how obvious it is to tell what type of guy someone is by the way they treat their body and environment - and how you too must have once been silently judged in this way.

Make no mistake, this isn't about dressing stylish, having the latest gadgets or fashions, or keeping everything in OCD perfection. It's about keeping your environment clean and tidy and keeping your body in the same way. That means no smells, no stains, no dirt. Washing your hands, cleaning under your nails, showering regularly. Not leaving pieces of trash or old food around, sticky coffee stains or smelly cigarette butts next to the place you work, sleep, or eat. People notice these things and will assume that this is the type of person that you are, that you always have been, and that this is your station in life.

tldr: Nothing puts poverty on display more clearly than someone who can't keep themselves or their environment clean.

[deleted] · 2016-07-06T11:15:42+00:00

Good post, but I have mixed feelings about wondering if we're really to the point that men need to be told to clean up after themselves?

Then again, from half of the shit I read in asktrp, we might need a sticky teaching guys how to wipe their own ass. Ugh.

FateBender · 2016-07-06T12:05:25+00:00

Great post. As an aside, if I may add, please for the love of god, re-rack your fucking plates and put the dumbbells back to where they were when you're done in the gym. It's infuriating and confusing how can people not give a shit about the environment where they spend considerable amount of their time every day.

killxorxbexkilled · 2016-07-06T12:15:07+00:00

It makes perfect sense to keep a clean/organized living space. Why wouldn't the same principle of discipline and self-improvement not apply to the home as it does the body?

awmace5 · Wed Jul 6 4:22:41 2016 UTC

I disagree. Look at Einstein's desk, or any of the great literary men of the last century. Hell, my desk/room has books and papers strewn about and I consider myself productive. Edit: Great Einstein quote: "If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?"

rumovoice · 2016-07-06T02:34:56+00:00

This will unnecessarily consume your time. Cleaning stuff in batches is a lot faster. I tend to throw stuff around when my attention is fixed on something else and then just clean up once in 1-3 days.

FamineX · 2016-07-06T11:11:19+00:00

This is essentially right, but like all of TRP should be enjoyed with a grain of salt. If you have an important appointment or university exam coming up, cleaning up instead of preparing would be procastrination too, as you focus on low priority tasks instead of immediate high priority tasks.

So: Generally keep your flat clean but do not clean it if you have other, more important shit to do first!

88Will88 · 2016-07-06T05:17:30+00:00

Wow we have the beardiest of necks in here. Please tell me how to clean my flat sir, yes goodsir, I shall follow your alpha example and throw shit out of my filthy car, thanks sir, now m'lady will fellate me - hahahaha. The path to alpha has never been more clear

Akill3s · 2016-07-06T00:58:10+00:00

Make it a rutine. I clean my place every sunday. When I was doing my military service me and my group had to clean our room and all the showers every morning, 7 days a week! Antother group had the toilets and so on. It made me realise the importance of living in a clean area.

A friend of mine and his ugly, fat stripper to a gf live in the shittiest appartment I've ever seen. It's really skanky. His gf got many mental illness diagnoses and he is lazy coming from a home with a mother cleaning his room all his life. Anyway, since he moved to her apartment he gets sick at least once every month due to pollution from all garbage and shit in their apartment. Living like this creates allergies in the long term.

Do yourself a favor and clean brothers.

Project_Thor · 2016-07-06T05:44:09+00:00

Fuck this, Get your SMV high enough and plates will clean it for your time.

Mountin-man46 · 2016-07-06T03:49:56+00:00

Women should do the dishes

88Will88 · 2016-07-05T23:17:36+00:00

This is just posting for the sake of posting, I mean really? A post on cleaning? That is woman's work, I make my bitches clean up after me.

Title	Clean up after yourself
Author	RedditAdminsSuck_88
Upvotes	282
Comments	92
Date	July 5, 2016 10:26 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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