Dating has made me cynical and misogynistic

Thotwrecker · 2017-07-16T11:24:28+00:00

Be useful things. I am a misogynist by my own admission, but I don't like stew in a misogynist mindset for very often, maybe like 5 minutes a week, because it isn't really useful.

So don't "be" a misogynist or misanthrope for that matter (I would say TRP condemns men much harder than it does women, and TRP can lead to you hating all beta friends, resenting all your Chad friends, etc if you let it). You can think misogynist things, sure, that's healthy and shows you can read reality. But don't make an identity or habit out of it.

And I used to live in LA and NY before that, I have high school girls bullying a sensitive 'friend' to suicide, I've seen college girls spend daddy's tuition inhaling froyo, everclear, dick, adderall, etc for 4 years, I've seen all sorts of shit MRAs post about like guys losing access to their kids and home, girls ruining coworkers reputation / job, getting guys fired after a relationship she initiated went sour, etc. Plenty to make me cynical and misogynistic, I've seen a lot of the worst in women travelling and seeing a lot of poverty where you have women doing raw hypergamy to try to not starve - ruthlessly competing to try to convince a decently wealthy man they are worth saving from poverty so she can marry above her class.

But really, it's just what it is, it's just the reality. No point feeling misogynistic. Women have their hustle, we have our hustle. You can't get mad about just because by our code of ethics they fight dirty. There was never a great signing off of social rules; they never agreed to our code. They never were forced by reality to live up to a certain standard or die off alone, they never needed to fight leopards and shit. We forced them to curtail their thottish instincts for a swath of human history, but then we stopped doing that. We got lenient and started to let them do whatever the fuck they wanted. Now can we really be mad that they run around spending money, signalling value on social media and playing their stupid little MMO with other women online for attention and validation? Can we really be that mad that they ride the cock carousel until nature forces them to change their strategy?

Women do what they do, and it's largely because women are programmed to push boundaries and see how much shit they can get away with. We chose to let them get away with all of this shit, so how can I hate them?

You can choose to not date / plate them if you want. You can choose to just try to have fun with it and not give a shit, which is my approach. You can choose to view it as this game where they aren't really people, they're more like an AI that nature and nurture have collabed on creating. That is fine, that's USEFUL, that will achieve something to bring this back to my original point.

So choose an approach that works for you and will help you get what you want. That isn't necessarily the same for everyone, but I do think a generally good principle is to replace cynicism and misogyny with their useful siblings: realism and pragmatism.

You're not being negative about women, you're being realistic. You're not doing nice guy shit and then being mad at her for being less attracted to you afterwards. You're being pragmatic, you're going to do the shit she likes deep down, and you're going to find an enjoyment in this stupid little power / sex game that consumes our lives as social animals. Because really, what's the alternative?

incredulousDick · 2017-07-15T20:06:18+00:00

Same girl also says that hey, tell me about your insecurities, and when you tell about them and think well, this could make relations with her a bit deeper, she loses instantly interest as she sees you weak.

I get the impression you haven't completely swallowed the red pill. Not that I'm an expert (I'm not at all). You need to continue reading... If I've comprehended correctly from my own reading, you should never admit any insecurity to a woman--ever.

It's good you're noticing these things through your own experiences.

MattyAnon · 2017-07-16T13:33:49+00:00

Nothing is certain, all guys are deplorable and you are still expected to lead and decide dates and be the one who does everything while the woman just enjoys the ride. And when you end up in a relationship after hopping through dozens of flaming hoops and bear-traps, she might as well end up sucking some drug dealer's dick in a public toilet.

You're expecting too much of women. You want something that doesn't exist - an equal.

Men compete, women wait at the finish line and fuck the winner.

The upshot of this is: live YOU life, stop caring about women, enjoy them for what they are, but never expect a LTR or her effort or her being anything special at all.

nninja · 2017-07-16T00:48:18+00:00

Such is life. There are no guarantees, your hard work might be in vain. It might pay off. A business you're working on might succeed, it might not. There is no reason to it. Don't look for one. Accept what happens, let the chips fall where they may. You aren't in control of other people, only yourself. So make sure YOU are in the right state of mind and doing what you have to.

There is no right and wrong with relationships. The myth that men who spend their lives banging models on a yacht will end up lonely and sad is a just that...a myth. Some man might be happier raising a family with a "good" girl. Some guys wanna bang hoes all their lives.

The only truth is that women must look to you for guidance, they must always look up to you, respect you. You can show weakness if she already knows you're strong, and only in calculated spurts when the power dynamics are tilted heavily in your favour. You can never "relax" with a woman, she's a woman, that's how they are. She will shit test you for life. They are fickle, hypergamous, emotional, unstable, insecure. Accept it. Or you might as well get angry at the wind for blowing. If you keep going though, keep fighting through it, eventually it will all become second nature. You'll react to shit tests without having to think about them, they'll be ingrained in you like the instincts of a lion, a lion doesn't question whether he should fuck this lioness or eat this antelope, he just acts.

Docbear64 · 2017-07-16T02:22:13+00:00

It sounds like you're investing too much into women an trying to be superman for the average hoe . Why ? Why expend all that thought and effort ? To me they call it "game" because it's just that and you should approach it with the seriousness of just that. It's meant to be fun , make fun of the bitch , don't always give her a straight answer, say something not socially acceptable if that's how you feel , it's a game .

I think I started doing better with women when I stopped taking them seriously , treating them like little girls / old teenagers is all . If they wander off then cool you had fun with them but that's the point it should just be fun , a good time .

I was thinking maybe if you date seriously this is bad advice for you but even then I hope you don't go on every date thinking " this could be them other of my children " women should earn those kind of thoughts . Until she shows you she's worth anything treat her like she's nothing but someone to fun with , we all know that's how most women treat dating .

vandaalen · 2017-07-15T23:42:43+00:00

tl;dr: Most women today are fucking boring and worth nothing more than being handled as the vagina to masturbate in and the cum dumpster that they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrhRzxoFH-4

All you need to decide for yourself now is how much effort and time you are willing to spend with chasing pussy and how much with the real important shit like finding and pursueing a mission.

Women will add nothing of value to your life. You know now. Make the best of that knowledge.

Derzu_Uzala · 2017-07-16T00:27:48+00:00

Many years ago I believed the same and got angry towards women. I understand now. Women and men are different, I accepted it and moved on. You will get tougher and learn to share your grief with another MEN in your life.

Stay strong.

NeoreactionSafe · 2017-07-16T11:45:34+00:00

Dating is a leftover from the 1800's.

Back before Divorce Rape and Child Support laws (pre-1950) the woman had only one chance to act on her hypergamy and select the highest SMV male she could attract. The "Date" was the process where this high stakes Game of seduction took place. A women knew that her body had a limited attractiveness timespan so she wanted to get married as soon as possible.

But today.... what is Dating used for today?

In our time the "Date" is a validation mechanism for women who want to prove how badly they can abuse a beta male. It's a sadistic theft of male resources. (all women are manipulative psychopaths underneath)

I remember when I first tried the "expensive date" concept back in about the year 1995. This girl I met in my apartment had agreed to a date. I walk to her door to pick her up and she's on the phone behind the door talking to her girlfriend.

On the phone she says something like:

"Oh I'm not really into the guy at all... but he's taking me to XXXXX and that's expensive so I'll get a free meal."

We should no longer do "Dates" as they are really from a bygone era when the date was supposed to be a serious thing.

Just don't even think of spending money on women anymore.

And these days women have their own money so they really don't need yours.

ChazzTheAlleyCat · 2017-07-15T21:47:58+00:00

https://therationalmale.com/2011/09/22/dream-girls-and-children-with-dynamite/

This is a crucial reading by one of the Manosphere's finest. It is critical for your emotional health that this is taken into account when practicing the tactics and game here on TRP.

2-4-6-0-1-1 · 2017-07-16T13:29:32+00:00

It's such a fucking awful thing that men are expected to be everything to be deemed date-worthy. Confidence, looks, career, personality, status, cool hobbies, perfect social skills and psychology - sometimes one needs to even be a fucking psychic to read thoughts to get things right.

I don't think men are expected to be everything. I think women say they have high standards and create unreasonable standards because they are afraid of getting hurt. They've been fucked and chucked so much that they figure the only way they'd do it again is if he was really special. So they create unreasonable expectations more as a way of preventing a relationship and thus getting their feelings hurt.

Women love to say how awesome they are and yet when you meet those same women you can plainly see they are fat and unattractive, broke, shitty credit, kids, boring, etc.

Part of women's strategy is to break men down. They do this by henpecking in the relationship but they also do it before any relationship by tearing men down or by creating unreasonable standards as a way of building up their own self-esteem.

"I'm so awesome that I deserve the perfect man." But really she's a fat troll whose only social interaction is trolling on Two-X or Feministing.com.

You don't have to be whatever women want. You only have to be the best version of you that you can be.

And you should be qualifying those women when you are out with them. Ask them what they are all about and when they reveal they have nothing going on then tell them you are disappointed. If you plan the date and make the initiative then it's her job to be entertaining and fun. If she isn't then you have every right to tell her you are bored and if she doesn't perk up and start giving back then tell her you are going to take her home.

And then actually take her home.

You have to expect something to get something. If you don't make it clear what you want and what you deserve she's not going to give it to you.

Women are all about the "covert contract". They know it exists and they use it to their advantage. They will let you break your back for them and after you've done everything and you finally get angry that she hasn't given back she'll just say, "I never asked you to do that". For her to ask for something is to put it on the record that she owes you something. This is why women tell men their problems and then when men try to fix things they say, "I just wanted you to listen." No, they wanted men to fix things but they didn't want to reciprocate or give appreciation for it.

But I digress. You have to react to her bad behavior or lack of performance. Giving unconditional validation and acceptance is a sure way to get used.

You should be letting them know explicitly that YOU are not happy with THEM. That THEY have failed to meet YOUR standards and then be willing to walk away.

PantsonFire1234 · 2017-07-17T02:18:05+00:00

I've done huge amount of personal self-development at these fields. And then I meet girls, who don't do anything remotely interesting in their lives, don't develop themselves, don't have any idea who they are or what they even want!

Yep man, that's exactly what it's like. The problem is that women have so many options and are so enabled by society that they don't know what to pick. They are like a kid at Toys R Us with a free gift card of 10.000 but he can't buy everything. Watch the kid run up and down the alleyways without actually buying anything. Sometimes he will pick something up, then throw it away a tad later when he finds something else. Eventually the store closes and he has to spend his 10.000 fast and he ends up buying absolute crap due to the pressure. That's women nowadays in a nutshell. It's not working.

It's like one sees this huge fucking massive effort to get better in life and what you get? Woman that is just a fucking pretty flower and nothing more. You could get a same thing in the closest brothel without the hassle.

Not just that, most women aren't even that pretty. Their bodies are average, definitely not top 20% of women unless you are a rich star or very lucky finding an available one who you game just right. In the end you will blow every possible partner out of the ballpark in almost every way. And she will still be a pain in the ass and possibly cheat. It's impossible because our society is fucked.

And when you fuck up some small minute thing, they disappear.

You havent even seen the next red pill them. You see, even if you become Dark Triad ZFG IDGAF Grandmaster and make zero mistakes or at least 0.00001%- they still fuck off because they give up, get angry, want to make you jealous whatever. You can't win with this game. That's why virgins who are not ruined by liberal corruption are so prized. They actually respond without a load of baggage that make them erratic.

And when you end up in a relationship after hopping through dozens of flaming hoops and bear-traps, she might as well end up sucking some drug dealer's dick in a public toilet.

Man I feel you completely. This sexual market can't sustain itself like this. Right now it's afloat due to blue pilled betas and lesser alpha's. Watch what happens when they get wind of all this.

I'm also way past the point where my SMV actually needs to be improved even more. But there's just no point in getting a girl. After all the hard work and shit testing she's just gonna disappoint you within a year. And it's not like guys like you and me aren't trying. I've burned through more girls in the last 2 years than my entire life combined. Every time they did something I couldn't forgive.

All i'm doing nowadays is increasing the level of whatever is sexually valuable to me and women and pursuing other early goals that I find important or enjoyable. Inbetween I fuck women and talk to them but I am growing increasingly jaded. Imagine if they were amazing prizes and loyal to, all the work would be worth it. But they aren't, they suck balls and are just as beta as 80% of the male population, if not more.

Women are the biggest losers on earth, I can make no other conclusion.

grandaddychimp · 2017-07-16T04:46:45+00:00

Women get away with this because they can. From a biological standpoint, eggs are valuable and sperm are worthless. Women can only be pregnant once every 9 months and men can impregnate practically infinite women. Women are the limiting reagent, so they are naturally the more picky choosers. If they can only get pregnant once every 9 months and have a limited amount of eggs, why wouldn't they be?

Accept the fact that you're a man and therefore completely disposable. Because you're disposable, you have to prove yourself worthy of her vagina in order to access it. You can only do this by having high SMV relative to her.

It sounds like you still believe in some Just-World Fallacy theory. That is a blue pill way to view the world and you need to ditch it ASAP. Once you realize that mother nature is amoral and doesn't give a fuck about you or your feelings, and your genetics are the product of random chance, you will come to terms with the fact that the only things you can do about it is either learn to cope via digesting the red pill, or commit suicide.

Lambdal7 · 2017-07-16T07:37:27+00:00

Yes, most women are not interesting and yes, you need to do a lot right as a man.

However, this is the cards we've been dealt. There is a surplus of cock, cock is cheap. If you want your cock to get pussy, you need to be ahead of the crowd.

The solution to your anger is abundance. Go on Tinder, approach during the day, draw women from your social circle. Once you have 10 women texting you, you become much less angry.

PaperStreetVilla · 2017-07-16T15:22:07+00:00

Be moar hawt.

It's your buffer against game. The leangains type bro can fuck up a lot, dadbod has to be 100% on point.

as for your anger, realize, it's not for them, it's for you. It's your egos way of telling you that you know where you're fucking up, and doesn't want to admit you aren't perfect.

It passes, you'll be fine

BrokenPhoneBooth · 2017-07-16T04:03:12+00:00

If you're online dating, remember you're a fucking dime a dozen. It doesn't matter if you've got a great physique and personality, high SMV girls are getting handed cock left and right. You're disposable. You're essentially worthless to to any girl that is attractive. Why deal with your bullshit when they can next you and potentially find their Chad?

plein_old · 2017-07-16T15:32:30+00:00

If we tell our insecurities to a woman when we first meet her, it's a bit like announcing that we want her to be our mommy. Or our therapist.

Which is fine, but not all women are into that. Usually what a woman likes is when a man is a little bit firm, a little bit erect.

There's no tricks or gimmicks to achieving this though. You have to value something in your life more than you value the approval of a woman. Then the woman is more likely to respect you.

JamesSkepp · 2017-07-15T22:46:57+00:00

You made dating women the primary thing in your life. Make yourself the primary thing first.

And treat the whole dating as fun, not as chore b/c "you HAVE to have a nice woman as gf".

All women are like that. There is nothing you can do about it, but to accept it make your life about you not them, b/c you can control you and cannot control them.

sir_wankalot_here · 2017-07-15T23:34:40+00:00

Why MGTOW is the final stage of TRP. MGTOW doesn't mean not having sex, it means women having zero priority in your life. When you start looking at things through a red pill lens, women have little value in your life.

goldaxis · 2017-07-16T08:39:34+00:00

It sounds like you know the truth about women, but you still wish it were otherwise. I get you. You want a strong, respectable partner. Someone who inspires you and makes you better, who adds to your life. That's just not how it works. Don't feel guilty if you start to drift from women as the reality settles in.

allfromacell · 2017-07-16T08:36:13+00:00

There are still a lot of good woman in the world, you don't have to marry them, hell you don't even need to stay faithful but discarding the idea of any long term relationship is depressing. Do you really want to be that lonely 65 year old guy with no kids or relationship?

Monsterzz · 2017-07-16T10:35:05+00:00

I think you care too much about the woman. View the date like you're chillin and you like to do the activity and you just asked a stranger to come along.

aconsolationprize · 2017-07-16T21:10:47+00:00

"sometimes one needs to even be a fucking psychic to read thoughts to get things right"

Yep, women are allowed to be a million variables that can swing wildly from moment to moment that you can't even learn a pattern. Men, OTOH, one single thing they don't like in your profile, NEXT!

Toolman890 · 2017-07-16T00:13:54+00:00

That's why we say to always plate them. Bro, women are done. You need to accept it. You're not going to get a fulfilling relationship today. Women are only for sex.

iwasbornred · 2017-07-15T20:33:22+00:00

Dude. Only date women that you would find interesting without the sex. A good way to test this is to not fuck her until you have spent enough time with her to know.

There are definitely drawbacks to not fucking her asap, but this could be a useful tactic for you.

hillbull · 2017-07-16T00:17:03+00:00

You're self awareness is on the cusp of a revelation. Keep down this path and you will continue with your understanding. You get nothing from these women. Your fulfillment starts with you, and you're starting to realize that.

ChrisBenRoy · 2017-07-16T16:39:37+00:00

And when you fuck up some small minute thing, they disappear.

I had a chick once I was banging for a month, she was absolutely obsessed. She would send me videos of her getting herself off to me while I was at work, as soon as I'd walk in the door to her apartment she'd be attacking me and taking my pants off. Went to a wedding together and didn't RSVP +1, some girl came up and said we were in her seat so we left, went back to her place and fucked more.

She never talked to me again after that night, saying the not RSVP thing pissed her off. Don't try and make sense of this shit bro, you'll drive yourself crazy. Just laugh, shake your head and move on to the next one.

GunnarX · 2017-07-16T22:04:19+00:00

We, as men, are held to SUCH ridiculously high standards. Sometimes I wonder if being a woman would be easier but then I realize I wouldn't have it any other way in the long run.

I appreciate this post. Thank you.

xandermorgan · 2017-07-15T22:32:30+00:00

"Sucking a drug dealers dick in a public toilet" I like that. Made me chuckle.

yomo86 · 2017-07-15T21:16:23+00:00

I 'opportuniting' instead of dating. Dating is dance where women make the formal rules. Enjoy every conversation with a person. If she rolls with the punches escalate if not you've had a good time and no loss of time. Dating shift the power paradigm from equal to chivalrious, it is daunting at best and frustrating at worst.

i_have_a_semicolon · 2017-07-16T19:29:46+00:00

Sorry this is tough for you. Gotta imagine any good high quality woman finds a man and locks it down quick. Any women who are still "dating" have "trouble" finding a relationship for a reason.

SLMC1 · 2017-07-16T20:29:23+00:00

How old are the women you go out with? For pair-bonding, the younger the better for pair-bonding in my experience--not that there aren't any downsides to dating a 19 year old.

indeydius · 2017-07-16T21:17:54+00:00

It's such a fucking awful thing that men are expected to be everything to be deemed date-worthy. Confidence, looks, career, personality, status, cool hobbies, perfect social skills and psychology - sometimes one needs to even be a fucking psychic to read thoughts to get things right. I've done huge amount of personal self-development at these fields. And then I meet girls, who don't do anything remotely interesting in their lives, don't develop themselves, don't have any idea who they are or what they even want!

Wait until you see the carnival on the other side of the wall. When you're 40+ and 30+ women try to "make something of themselves" and qualify themselves to you as their flower fades.

Alexinfinite01 · 2017-07-16T22:02:04+00:00

There aren't any good women out there. Just more tolerable ones than others. Never ever show insecurity or weakness. They fucking hate it. Tell them something absurd like "my biggest insecurity or fear is that I may have no insecurity or fear"

Throwaway_5252 · 2017-07-16T23:44:17+00:00

Yeah I feel the same way. I'm only 24 and I've have sex with around 30 women in my lifetime (10 of them prostitues). EVERY TIME I try to start a romance with one it just falls apart and never works out. As you said, it's as if wanting to connect with someone on a level beyond sex and being a provider is seen as "weak."

I'm really tired of trying to form romances with women who aren't even all that interesting aside from their looks. Prob just gonna keep fucking prostitutes my whole life. The sex is more adventurous and you have a lot of cool stories to tell. And I've found that escorts tend to be more intelligent then your average college campus chick, who is either a SJW or a phony sorority bitch.

cobalt1728 · 2017-07-16T03:54:19+00:00

Women are pieces of SHIT and care nothing but themselves. They are narcecistic, self centered brats and deserve nothing more than being treated as such. I am fucking pissed. I have been so fucking pissed for 3 years I cant take it anymore.

I deadlifted 405 for 10 reps deadstop at the gym and get so pissed I throw the weight down as hard as I can because I am so fucking pissed at the world.

Mavegrind · 2017-07-16T12:58:31+00:00

It sounds like you're striving for perfection and/or pursuing self-improvement for the sole purpose of getting girls. This is where you messed up; girls don't want perfect because perfection is boring. They want human, they want a man with some flaws that will do his own thing and not give a damn what people think, they want a leader not a shapeshifter, they want a man that treats them as if they're there just to enjoy the ride that is your life and won't care if they leave. Also probably the reason they leave when you start to get more emotional and personal might be because you're doing it too fast and soon so they feel smothered and get turned off, though I don't know your situation.

Read The Book of Pook, it's one of the most enlightening books that I reread in my personal library. It's just a collection of Pook's (Sosuave user, founder of MGTOW movement) online articles formatted into print version. His prose and to the point explanation of how things work is simply beautiful and it really changed my mindset for the better. I found myself making a lot of connections to past experiences with girls and why they went sour.

And as far as LTRs go or even just developing a closer relationship with a girl, you're not going to have meaningful success unless you find a girl that is religious, classy, or has a strong set of morals, or a combination of these from what I've noticed. Also obviously older girls are more mature and willing to stick with you than younger ones.

figyg · 2017-07-16T15:17:14+00:00

Meet women at self-development classes and courses. I've had tremendous success with that.

Get clear on what you want in a relationship. Like as clear as you can get it and write it down. Then go to a yoga seminar. Seminars are easier than classes. Less cliquish and the ladies are more open.

Anyways, if I get all my meals at McDonalds I'm gonna think everything is fast food, which some women are the equivalent of. Want a nice steak? Gotta go to a better restaurant :)

PowerVitamin · 2017-07-17T00:23:37+00:00

Let me get this straight. You are mad because women are not like men?

Society sold you lies with the BP. Women do not have to develop themselves. They only have to develop themselves towards the mean. The girls closest to the mean (see the bell curve) will be the most valued by society and will receive the most gifts/affection.

vengefully_yours · 2017-07-16T17:12:10+00:00

You want a girl worth a relationship? What, like your mom? Hold you and tell you everything will be alright? I guess the best thing my mom ever did was not give a fuck about me, because I've never been looking for that. That's good because your mom is the only girl you'll ever meet who will be that way with you. ANY girl you want to fuck will not want to fuck you if you act that way.

You want a best friend? Get male friends. Even they're hard to find good ones. Girls take the shape of the container, be the container, they'll learn to fit you. They'll take on some of your interests, just because you have them.

The best you can get with girls is this.

She's attracted to you and wants to fuck often. She is active when fucking, doesn't just lay there. Gives head eagerly, wanting to please you. These are easy to achieve, be a dominant leader, fuck her hard and well, don't be a whiny bitch, and have muscle.

She doesn't give you tons of drama, doesn't start shit just to argue, isn't entirely irrational, and doesn't expect you to give her a free ride. Some bitches want drama, they crave it and can't live without it. Most want you to pay for her shopping spree, fund her lifestyle, and if you do, she'll stop fucking you to fuck some other guy. Good luck finding a young girl who can support herself, even most old ones can't. Accept that you're mostly an ATM to them. All of them.

Relationships are best for men when the sex doesn't cost us much or nothing at all. They're best for girls when they can fuck anyone they want and get free shit. Girls like to fuck as much as we do, probably more, but it's usually easy for them to get so it's not much of a priority. They'd rather get free shit. Your most valuable resource is time, bitches love to waste that. Sex is always going to cost time, but it's a need we have. Eating and sleeping cost time as well, need those too. It's all the extra bullshit she wants to soak up your time that costs you. Like going shopping with her. My first ex did that, she wasted years of my life with that bullshit.

Kid I've had lots of relationships, so far only two have been good for me. Right now I'm sitting on my girl's couch, drinking coffee, about to go get some truck parts and fill two barrels with fuel to haul to my house 7 hours away. We do not live together, we've been fucking nearly 3 years. We go on adventures, travel, see concerts, watch movies, take my muscle cars to events, but most of the time I don't see her. We go months between fuck sessions in winter. I have my life, she has hers, and we spend time together when it works for me. She can fuck anyone she wants as long as I don't catch a disease from her, but she seems to be a one dick at a time girl, which is extremely rare. I can tell when they're giving up pussy to other guys, it's actually easy for me. I always know. She can, any time she wants though.

She's clinging to me, because at 45 with two kids, it's not easy for her to meet quality men. She makes more money than I do, not looking for a replacement dad, and her time is as valuable as mine. Not exactly desperate, she gets hit on as often aa I get "fuck me" looks from girls, but she is discerning about who she brings around her kids. She's the only single mom I've fucked for any length of time, and the only girl over 28 that gets fucked often by me. Why? Because she fucks eagerly, brings minimal drama, looks ok and makes my cock hard. She is fun, pays her own way, often mine as well, and doesn't whine about not enough time. Rather she always wants more fucking.

It's fun while it lasts. When it's no longer fun, it's done and I'll find other girls to fuck. Lots of them in my local universities. I'm not keeping them, it's only my turn. That's a man's life, not the Disney princess version you seen to want.. fuck happily ever after.

suxxos · 2017-07-16T16:44:20+00:00

As I often say, it's up to you to decide what kind of people you surround yourself with. Nobody else. If you think people around you are stupid - sorry, it's your own fault. If you are meeting only stupid women - sorry, it's you who chooses who to go on dates with. Maybe you are looking in wrong places. Smart, interesting AND attractive women definitely exist, I've met loads of them, and meet new ones regularly, but 1) they are very high value and therefore picky (hard to blame them), 2) you won't find them on tinder/dating sites etc. because they don't need those. This kind of women you can only meet through high value friends, in certain environments and so on. Artistic circles are a good example, but of course there are more.

In any case, don't get too bitter, because once you actually meet a great woman, she's going to feel how misogynistic you are and it won't help you impress her.

throwaway_pua182 · 2017-07-15T20:09:04+00:00

You are caring way too much dude.

You might be seeking a relationship too hard.

Dating and chicks should occupy the bottom 20% of your time. As a real self-development minded guy, your goals, hobbies and social circles should be super fulfilling. The right mindset is "take it or leave it" when it comes to girls and dating.

When you reach the level where you truly don't give a fuck, and they can sense it off of you, that's when you'll start getting them chasing you. Right now you are chasing women's validation and approval too much.

See it for what it is; a big joke.

DamnDirtyApe87 · 2017-07-16T02:41:52+00:00

Sums it up pretty nicely imo..

Truedemocracy2 · 2017-07-16T15:00:36+00:00

one thing TRP does is it strips relationships and connections of that 'magic' and reveals it for the formula it is. Dating It's more science and math than art

Xiphos462 · 2017-07-16T20:51:15+00:00

Sounds like you're meeting them through the interwebz

Shaman6624 · 2017-07-16T23:27:08+00:00

Where do you find the women you date? Are you looking in the right places?

Thephilhouse · 2017-07-17T11:57:57+00:00

I remember having the exact same rant when I was in the anger phase.

Just remember, when they hit 30 they're fucked, when you hit 30 you're better and both of these factors will swing the power balance in your favour.

Once you see the whole thing as a sexual economy and just a game, it becomes less important and more fun, and you can derive some happiness from it and some happiness from elsewhere.

Also when you stop giving a fuck, women seem to judge with less strict criteria. I don't really know why, maybe they see that you "just get it".

I would recommend reading some stuff on how to get through the red pill grief cycle

maxrp · 2017-07-22T00:09:34+00:00

Theres an aging population of single women freezing their eggs or getting preg with chads sperm and becoming single mothers on states wellfare, all getting bitter and turning to feminism to get back at men.

Looks guys....as a whole you men are failing women!

Title	Dating has made me cynical and misogynistic
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Upvotes	238
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Date	July 15, 2017 7:53 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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