Keep TRP to yourself

Lignodrain · 2014-12-14T07:50:53+00:00

I got leaked as the guy who has 'crazy ideas on women' for mentioning that I would always get a prenup for any marriage. Bunch of BPers...

Poskito · 2014-12-14T09:57:03+00:00

I don't know that we use red pill exactly. It's about revealing the truth, not a technique. But yeah, a lot of people can't handle the truth and it's best to keep quiet

LibertarianLibertine · 2014-12-14T11:04:15+00:00

No shit, it serves you right for being dumb enough to share it like that.

If you need to share anything, share some concepts in regular terms, but don't mention the red pill.

MagnanimousGenius · 2014-12-14T06:37:38+00:00

This could have further repercussions

Stay vigilant, remember the first rule of Fight Club

throwinout · 2014-12-14T09:37:02+00:00

I can't believe anyone would ever think it would be a good idea to talk about TRP outside of here. Think about how much the rest of Reddit hates TRP, and then think about how much more BP the rest of the world is.

IllimitableMan · 2014-12-14T15:43:40+00:00

I don't talk about TRP to anyone, but I do give people "generic wisdom" now and again (which is of course, seeping in RP)

I'm actually surprised how many people know about TRP. It is becoming a fight club type thing now, especially as it spreads, it's becoming "that elephant in the room" - "does he know about TRP?"

Don't try to convert people it's a futile and pointless endeavour. People believe what they want to believe in. The only reason people who are on TRP believe in it is because their old belief system failed them, but having practised TRP and gotten results they are convinced it is the framework/belief system for them.

If your life was great before you found TRP unless you were an extremely open-minded and rational man you would have no emotional reason to adhere to or even seriously consider the propositions laid out by TRP.

Of course in the realm of spin artistry, this means those that do not like TRP offhandedly rationalise this entire community as "bitter men who have given up on women."

I talked to a couple of my friends about TRP, hoping I could help them. Looking back now I realize how much of a mistake that is, it doesn't matter who they are, you can't trust anyone.

The friend that blabbed to your plate about you going on TRP (why are you introducing your friends to your plates?) wants to fuck your plate so he cockblocked you in typical beta fashion - white knighted and "warned her about you!" - Who's fucking team is he on? Not yours, because he wants to bang your plate. Find out as much specifics as you can about how that went down (so you can learn about the way in which they communicated for future reference) and then drop him like a ton of shit. Friends don't cockblock their bros like that. Even if it was unintentional, he is clumsy, a liability and cannot be trusted due to his incompetence.

t21spectre · 2014-12-14T07:09:21+00:00

I've shared TRP with several friends and men in general and I never got shit for it, if anything they came back later and acted as if I was some kind of apostle spreading the true word that saved them.

Sounds like you just have shitty immature friends.

Time to cut the toxic people who drag you down out of your life.

FerrusMan · 2014-12-14T14:46:34+00:00

If I talk about it, I never ever mention "red pill". I remember being blue pill, and believe me, the first thought anybody blue pill has is that red pill = evil, selfish, user and abuser, just throw in your worst adjectives. If they even know what red pill means. Even though it's the truth, it's such an utter shock to blue pill people that they simply outright reject it. You know, like "the earth actually revolves around the sun" sort of deal.

An example of how I might talk about it, remember that youtube video of the girl walking the streets, with the creepy guy following her for 5 minutes. I might make a comment like, she wouldn't consider it harrassment if brad pitt was standing there and whistled at her, now would she. The few times I have mentioned it, I don't even get a response back, it just throws their brain into short circuit mode or something, it's kind of funny.

GayLubeOil · 2014-12-14T19:10:00+00:00

Americans have a very broad definition of the word friend. Men who do this are not friends by the Russian standard.

I talk about TRP all the time because most of my friends are gym bros. Also my girlfriend helps me with the flow and grammar of my posts.

Moral of the story dont associate with blue pill faggots. If you can do this then you can say whatever to whoever.

edwardhwhite · 2014-12-14T06:51:34+00:00

the first rule of fight club is don't talk about fight club

Matsew · 2014-12-14T15:30:05+00:00

I used to try and convince everyone of my ways when I was young. Not so much pushing it but engaging in arguments when they presented themselves. As I learned more and more about the world, I quickly realized that people are so detached from reality that I would need to explain and explain to them for hours to even get a simple point across because their beliefs were based on decades of brainwashing. And not like I succeeded, they were too closed-minded to consider, too adamant. And there's nothing for me to gain. That's when I completely stopped arguing with everyone, way before I found this place actually. Women especially don't give a shit about your long-winded sophisticated understanding of the world, they just want some alpha dick.

2014-12-14T21:05:25+00:00

Use a throwaway! You can't maintain plausible deniability if your blue pill peeps can come on here and see you posting with the same username you use for your gmail account.

Don't use RP terminology! Alpha fucks/beta bucks, hypergamy, dark triad, cock carousel, etc. These are all metaphors and constructs that serve for those of us in modern, Western, internet culture to understand and discuss core universal concepts. They are a reframing of classic truths put into terms that are relevant to men in this specific time and place in history. Figure out a way to rephrase these core concepts using more conventional terms.

Instead of saying, "She hit the wall after riding the CC and tried to lock down a beta bucks," you could say something like, "She looked in the mirror one day, realized she wasn't getting any younger, and decided to find a nice boy to marry and provide for her instead of all the bad boys she'd been fucking."

Notice in the second sentence I'm using terms that are almost cliche and less likely to end up on people's radar. At worst I come across as yet another one of a million common schmucks talking out of his ass and regurgitating pop culture. At best, I might actually reach someone who would be friendly to the core concepts but otherwise put off by what they see as a "red pill movement."

Be careful who you express these concepts to. Even if you're rephrasing RP concepts well, don't just volunteer the shit. Stay your compulsion to disseminate your superior knowledge. Just like OP is saying, you might have a buddy who you think gets it, but watch him throw your ass under the bus as soon as a female enters the conversation. There's a lot of "alphas" who, as soon as a wiff of vagina enters the room, will throw their brains out the window and don the shining armor of the White Knight. Keep your mouth shut about it unless asked. And if someone does ask you if you are RP....

Don't be afraid to "deny The Pill." You ain't St. Peter and Rollo, Roosh, Tyler, etc. ain't Jesus. (There's a bad joke about a cock in there somewhere). DENY THAT SHIT! You can even follow up that denial with a RP truth....

"Red pill? Aren't those the guys on the internet who are going around trying to be 'alpha' all the time. Why try to be 'alpha'? If your not happy with yourself, go to the gym and work on your confidence."

In other words, don't think you are betraying your fellow Red Pill bretheren by denying it. Instead think of it in terms of "loose lips sink ships." RP is on a need-to-know basis and most of the people you interact with don't need to know you've swallowed the pill.

And speaking of the gym...

If you lift, don't be a cliche! Fitness, especially weightlifting, is still being demonized in mainstream culture. Just this week I was watching Family Guy...the one where Brian becomes a runner and inexplicably breaks his leg. Seriously, fuck Family Guy. So instead of watching this crap I decided to reinstall GTA IV...fuck! Point is, the gatekeepers in the media still want every one of us to associate fitness with douchebaggery. So don't buy into the cliche by living up to it.

If you lift, imagine you are a closet pot smoker. But instead of smelly smoke you have muscles and instead of red eyes you have a red pill mind. The pothead just reeks and looks baked all the time while he's wasting away on the couch. Whereas the functional stoner conceals the smell and the red eyes, goes to work, and handles his business with his peers none the wiser. The functional stoner is selective about who he reveals his habit too, and under what circumstances.

As a RP man, this is how you must behave. Conceal the muscles by dressing moderately...that way when the shirt does come off the gun show is a pleasant surprise. Whereas if you are constantly showing off and acting like a cliche, you just get equated with the douchebaggery that's seen on TV.

Likewise, conceal your RP mind the way a stoner conceals his red eyes. Just like that stoner, nobody has to know but you.

hagenvontronje · 2014-12-14T11:17:32+00:00

One of the reasons to talk about this stuff here is that you CAN'T talk about it in real life, or at least not unless you're Rollo or one of those guys who makes a career out of it.

thisisntjet · 2014-12-14T13:53:08+00:00

What is "using red pill"? And why does it matter? Girls I've dated know that I game and they seem ok with it. Rarely ever comes up as a problem and even so it's fairly easy to ease them into forgetting about it again. They are generally supportive. That said, I don't just go around and announce that I read red pill philosophy or talk about it with just about anyone. It's all about how you bring it up and when you bring it up.

wiseclockcounter · 2014-12-14T06:41:25+00:00

shit. what did you say? no doubt this could grow into an even bigger problem if you don't keep some plausible deniability. Do you know who gave you away?

RockyMountainTaste · 2014-12-14T19:08:03+00:00

I post RP statuses on Facebook regularly. The people who unfriend me aren't worth my time.

brotherjustincrowe · 2014-12-14T14:08:21+00:00

Good advice for any opinion that isn't mainstream orthodox: shut the fuck up about it in public.

Anything with your name on it (Facebook, Linkedin, whatever) should present what it needs to in order to further the purpose of the site, and nothing more.

Put your controversial discussions in anonymous internet forums, and be extremely careful who you trust IRL, and even then only 1-to-1.

(there's a reason the old timers' advice was never to discuss religion or politics; PC just adds more to the list)

a_nus · 2014-12-14T21:30:22+00:00

Yes, keep the fact that you browse this subreddit private. But you don't have to keep the ideals of this sub a secret. Just be smart about how you present them.

Rougepellet · 2014-12-14T21:10:29+00:00

If you really feel the urge to share rp concepts, though it is advised against, don't say where it's from. Just state the concepts.

krakosia · 2014-12-14T21:40:58+00:00

This shows how the mainstream media controls and spins the narrative around any concept and puts either a negative or a positive light on things based on which way the wind is blowing. TRP just happens to be on the bad side for now.

Wheatspin · 2014-12-14T21:50:38+00:00

You can't help people for them. Anyone can only help themselves. You can give a homeless person a wheelbarrow full of money and they won't be any better off. You can give them life advice and they'll ignore it. You can show them TRP and they'll reject it.

40_SixandTwo · 2014-12-14T21:58:04+00:00

Really good friend of mine that I work with spews serious TRP word whenever we are out and get on discussions about topics related to Red Pill. Everytime we talk each of us always drop little hints of it.

Hell even today we were talking to another co-worker and our co-worker made a comment on how he hates "Men who use women." and my buddy started telling this co-worker how he was just like him at one time and was the total knight in shining armor and he learned fast that's not the way the world works. Oh and the dude is on Reddit all the time, pretty sure he reads this stuff.

Bottom line is though, I won't ask him if he's on TRP or anything like that, I think both of us do know but just won't bring it up.

First rule of fight club, don't talk about fight club.

Menadian · 2014-12-14T22:01:44+00:00

Never mention red pill... feed your pals some baits and hints! I feed my good friend a stream om philosophy during hitting the gym. He started as a completely utterly bluepill mangina. His first girlfriend was a unpleasant 3 and he havent had anything ever since. He believes buying drinks and waiting for his turn to speak is the right thing to do.... improvements have been done, but a long way is stil ahead.

He is a good pal though :)

TurgidMeatWand · 2014-12-15T00:39:46+00:00

YouTube commenters are advertising redpill and frame on any video that features a woman.

That's really just more incentive to keep it under your hat around people you care to see more than once.

As redpill gets more visibility, the more people are going to attribute it to /b/tard flamebait.

Kose2kose · 2014-12-14T17:59:30+00:00

I wish there was a way to bar women from lookin at this sub honestly lol

2014-12-14T18:26:15+00:00

I mentioned it to a few co-workers joking around one time. It was actually kind of funny cause some of the girls looked at it on their smart phones and they all started laughing at the concept of the "beta male" then went on to talk about guys at our work who were beta. Glad I wasn't a part of that list.

These are just co-workers at a dead end job (restaurant) that I can find anywhere. I don't really care what they think about me or if I get fired since I can get the same job with the same pay somewhere else tomorrow. I wouldn't bring this up in a job that I actually want to keep though.

GreenPiller · 2014-12-14T18:48:54+00:00

"First rule of The Red Pill. You do not talk about The Red Pill!"

gentleViking · 2014-12-14T19:31:07+00:00

It's frustrating to not be able to talk about TRP outside of reddit. Even if my guy friends 'might' be receptive to it, usually I dole out RP wisdom in small doses to test the waters before I go all in. To this day still haven't told anyone about RP.

2014-12-14T20:12:07+00:00

TRP should be found. It requires a search. It requires a person on a personal quest to improve. This is rare.

Betas are betas for a reason. They are generally dumb as rocks. I tried saving some and I'm always amazed at the arrogance and egotism they exhibit. They are failures in life by all objective measures (pussy, money, career, personality, body, etc) and they still tell me that they are right.

Last example was a school teacher I tried to save from marrying a girl I wouldn't even plate. I'd pump and dump her- no second date. She's that bad. He sheepishly told me that he knows what he's doing and to fuck off and not ruin true love (which I never had and hence I wouldn't understand.....lol). Yeah guy, this girl is using you and you are a fucking docile school teacher making 30k a year. Totally winner! /s.

Can you imagine Neo going around telling people about the Matrix? It's just not possible despite best intentions.

kevkos · 2014-12-15T00:32:29+00:00

Why would you keep someone around as crazy as that? Simply Next her ASAP and avoid the unnecessary drama, unless...scarcity.

LousWallin · 2014-12-15T07:40:37+00:00

Some guy on my Facebook, a nerdy, 120 lb, blue pill feminist sympathizer, gamer guy, posted a red pill article and said "Wow, no wonder women are afraid of men and marriage." All of his blue pill guy friends got into a discussion about the article, which led to concluding that on TRP, we're all friend-zoned women haters who endorse rape.

I gave my opposing red pill input for healthy discussion about being the best man you can be, the harsh reality that all relationships involve mind games, and how it personally helped/changed my life and realize my mistakes in my past relationships. The comments that followed included:

Feminist slut with orbiters in the comment section compared my RP beliefs with Nazi Germany and compared TRP to the mass genocide of Jews to make her point.
Nerdy original poster replies "I wuv you." in agreement to Feminist slut.
Nerdy, fat bastard with a neckbeard links to me and suggests this "non-misogynist" site on how to be a man.

Just give up on the damn betas who slut themselves out to commitment freely. I learned that there's absolutely no way of evangelizing to them. They can only help themselves once they're nose-deep and choking in the friend zone and realize that women aren't the perfect, nice princesses they pedestal them to be. The best thing you can do is keep silent, avoid them, and lead by example.

ss_camaro · 2014-12-15T11:26:00+00:00

Never talk to women about women.

It doesn't make them better.

YaBoiTibzz · 2014-12-14T18:13:16+00:00

She was probably mad at herself and projecting it onto you, because she fell for a "red pill woman hater" guy.

Anyways, you're right. No one IRL for me knows I visit this sub yet and I plan to keep it that way. Thank god I figured this out before telling anybody about it. Some people I know have tried to shame me just for being skeptical of the UVA rape story (before it was definitively proven to be false, of course), without me ever mentioning TRP or men's rights or anything like that. God only knows what would happen if I got "outed" as a red pill user.

3rdtimesacharmm · 2014-12-14T18:38:40+00:00

Correct. Better words have never been said. Only to be spoken to friends who clearly need it. Instruct them not to talk to anyone about it until they have read AT LEAST half of the sidebar.

TheRealMewt · 2014-12-14T20:03:01+00:00

I was actually thinking of this not too long ago and how it's so different from PUA because of it.

PUA is a function designed to tell frustrated men how to attract women, but think about this - why would another man want to teach other men how to be his competition? Makes no sense.

TRP, however, tells its practitioners to keep it to themselves for a variety of reasons. It's no wonder why so many people swear that red pill is effective for attracting women and maintaining relationships.

Mr_Get_Right · 2014-12-14T20:05:40+00:00

I explain rp strategy in vague terms, saying "from what I've seen so far with girls..." usually my bp friends agree, but at the same time cling to "BUT MY GIRL IS SPECIAL" on the inside. I want to help them, but it's not possible.

Cryocasm · 2014-12-14T22:44:39+00:00

Mate. You need new friends. Don't mention TRP.

Also when you feel the "need to help" you are experiencing that you have more or less transcended to the theoretical AMOG. Given you knowledge you should find new friends that share the same opinions, similar to how I did it:

I left the betas after having some good conversation with some alphas, we talked tough shit about "yeah never let a hoe touch your shit" and "if a bitch is annoying just cut her off". While they had practical experience (and I at the time only the theory from this subreddit), we still got along.

As D-WHY says: "Fake it till you make it".

PoopSmearMoustache · 2014-12-14T23:18:29+00:00

Never reveal your true power level.

It should be of no surprise that the ideologically pure are falsely parading themselves as open-minded citizens. People cannot live without an enemy to hate and provide contrast to their lives, it's a basic cohesive force and the reason a world government can never work.

So as per 48 LoP, to come out on top you have to either give the public another enemy (Saudi Princes, Rappers, CEOs, Rich) or destroy the ideology giving you the label ("You are being condescending, offensive and unpleasant", "Don't judge people for their religious views").

aggressivejoe · 2014-12-14T23:38:44+00:00

Anonymously at least, the best way to spread TRP is to insult it: "Look at all the anti-women shitlords at /r/TheRedPill. What unbelivable losers! Ha ha!"

It's okay to shit talk TRP. Nobody believes comments at face value on the Internet. Let's be honest, that's how most of us found this place. SJWs (or maybe fake SJWs?) are the reason why this sub has so many subscribers!

And since you are pandering to political correctness, your post is less likely to get deleted by the Internet Thought Police.

trp-throw · 2014-12-15T02:27:22+00:00

Main reason I made a trp-throw throwaway account... somehow a girl I know (who happens to be a feminist) found out about my reddit and was "disturbed" by the content I posted and liked and the subs I was subscribed to.

On one of the first few weeks I met her, she asked me and I quote "Please don't become a Pull Up Artist", beta me asks what a PUA is, to find out according to her that's someone who plays scumbag and nags women to get in their pants, and she couldn't emphasize enough that pua doesn't work...

Cut contact after she found out

thechaosz · 2014-12-15T06:06:06+00:00

I have this beta fag arguing with me on another sub and I want to u leash the dogs...I'm guessing it's not cool to post here ...seeing as reddit is all civilized and shit ;)

RPL23 · 2014-12-15T01:51:14+00:00

that's one of the tough lessons i had to learn the hard way.

when you swallow and digest TRP, you learn that you're free while everyone is still plugged in to the system. insert matrix metaphor here.

its tough to kill our own cognitive dissonance yet still function in an plugged-in world.

definitely keeping my mouth shut and blending into the crowd in non-sexual situations.

ETH_Zurich · 2014-12-15T02:33:15+00:00

something something fight club something something.

On a serious note, I think that'll be the best resolve for now. Why be subject to scrutiny by friends, plates, etc., especially while receiving their harsh verbal abuse. It's not worth it. Good call.

apskidb · 2014-12-15T10:17:02+00:00

This needs to become a sticky to remind guys to keep this under wraps.

All it takes it for one person to be all arrogant about his new found knowledge and have it leak onto mainstream to ruin it for the rest of us.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/13/online-dating-wandering-into-the-manosphere

tedcase · 2014-12-14T20:59:10+00:00

No shit. This stuff is too good to share, and would be wasted on most people anyway.

Title	Keep TRP to yourself
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