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[–]d_pock_chope_bruh 73 points74 points75 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Lol there's no way she's adhering to the just you part.. I wager she likes that (you) and only you adhered to the agreement.
[–]iab15c 12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
my thoughts exactly. in my opinion if a man is not openly dating me, I provide absolutely no loyalty even if I say I do... if he wants me so badly, he will ask me to be his girlfriend in which case I would be willing to accommodate my lifestyle for him…
[–]d_pock_chope_bruh 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly... I'm a dude, I've been there. That unspoken rule shit is if we are friends with Beni's than it's implied that I'm open to peruse. Whether I say I'm loyal or not is irrelevant bc if we are both loyal and just friends and having sex then we might as well be dating, the ONLY reason for not advertising it is to have other options on the table.
[–]amuster588[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well.... I fucking hope she is adhering to it. We have clear reasons why we chose the exclusivity - one of the primary points being STD control and shit like that.
I am sure that she likes that I adhere to the agreement, and Its fine with me that she can think that. I don't see how it reduces my value.
It is true... we might as well be dating.. but I don't want that. If she ever asks for more than the current agreement then I will have to cut her lose.
[–]biagrint 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you don't want a serious relationship don't expect serious relationship benefits, like her texting you when she's out with friends/ coworkers. If you want just sex, you'll get just sex.
[–]nadanonenada19 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Bro then why are y’all not dating? Because she is keeping her options open… sorry bro. I know it hurts.
Based on your post it appears you are way more into her than she is into you… not a good sign
[–]WussPoppin93 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wtf? then why say yes? Lol
[–]iab15c 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i don’t owe him the truth. he’s not my bf
and additionally, if you want guaranteed sex, maybe pay a professional for it if it’s legal where you live. i work in this industry and i know the value it brings men who want a variety of partners with no strings attached. you can’t want your cake and eat it too.. then complain about the stomachache it gives you 😅
[–]mrblack-- 114 points115 points116 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
First mistake was you asking her for exclusivity… she’s supposed to ask you. But whatever
But this is what you do.
STAY BORING.
You be THE EXACT OPPOSITE of her party life.
You have to bring such a calmness that if she leaves you her life will only be partying.
You’re dates should be quite shit, like food markets, the beach, museums n shit.
NEVER go to 1 of her events or parties it will make you insecure, go to gym gym, eat healthy, don’t drink, sort out her finances, make a plan for her life outside of modelling/ partying… then make her start to do that. Make her eat good, work out do yoga and shit.
She will brag to her friends about how uninterested you are in partying.
You have to be stability in her life, I REPEAT DO NOT TRY TO OUT PARTY HERE YOU WILL LOSE.
NEVER ask her why she doesn’t contact you
You have to be a solid guy, that means you need to always be levelling up financially, physically spiritually you have a model bro it’s either that or be a complete loser who does drugs and is super unpredictable but the fact you’re asking for advice here, I know you’re not that guy
Oh and fuck the shit out of her lol
[–]notarealpersondw 25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn guess I will never want to be with a model.
Lol idk if you’re right but this makes sense.. I’m not a model but I’m a guy who loves to party and get stupid etc. my gf is the polar opposite she’s a homebody and loves to do “boring” shit and that’s what initially attracted me to her.. thanks for helping me realise that after 5 years lol.
Yes sometimes I do miss the single bachelor life and being able to do blah blah and blah. But I feel like she’s an oasis I can be stable with. And eventually when we have kids and get married I can put all that shit in the past because that will interfere with the real goal
[–]focus_flow69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I disagree with not partying. I think you need to show you understand the party scene, how to have a good time and be social, but also know that it is not a threat to you. Difficult to show especially if you don't have expeirnece. But basically show you know about it and welcome it, but you choose to party and engage as you wish. You can enter and leave her world, but she can only enter yours when you bring her.
[–]mrblack-- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I wanted to correct that, “not party with her.”
Obviously go have a good time with your guys, but he shouldn’t try to show that side to her… She gets in VIP for free… he will most likely be lining up outside.
Models get free drinks, he pays for he’s, she gets attention, he probably gets no attention n definitely not as much as her male model friends. If he plays he’s cards incorrectly she could easily get turned off and he’s not a party boy naturally
[–]focus_flow69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea but you operate under the assumption that he isn't confident or social enough to thrive in or handle those social conditions. Now obviously only OP can know if he can or not, but I don't think you should resign to absolutes of no he shall not do this or that because of assumptions and self limiting beliefs
[–]mrblack-- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bro… he said it himself im not assuming anything
[–]-REXIA- 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nice pretty much, Don’t fall into her Frame but have HER fall into your Frame 🖼
Basically
[–]amuster588[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Well when we meet one of the primary activities we do together is drink and party - just us two. I enjoy it as well. When I'm not with her I don't party at all as I have work to focus on and other stuff, gyming etc.. which I do consistently. I am pretty fit.
True I guess she should have asked for exclusivity, but that ship has sailed.
Now doing boring shit... What we do is basically have dinner, go drink together, then go back to her place and fuck fuck fuck all night. Then I leave to go back to my place at around 7:00am in the morning. I have never slept over at her place (my choice).
I should mention one important thing. I have no intention of making her my girlfriends - only FWB with exclusivity. I know its greedy and selfish of me - but that the only way I want it. If she ever asks for more, it will be more complicated.. So I probably won't try to sort her finances and her daily activities out.
My goal is simple: retain her as my FWB with the agreement in place and sustain it. Giving her no need to seek outside dick. I told her straight up if you ever meet a guy who is 'relationship material' - just let me know and we can stop and you can be pursued/pursue that guy instead.
For now I think both of us are content with our agreement. IDK if she is not adhering to it as many of the other comments have suggest - its highly naive and unlikely that she is adhering to it. Anyways, I have no evidence to the contrary yet.
[–]mrblack-- 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, well if you don’t want her to be your girlfriend then forget everything I just said and fuck the shit out of her… that’s it really.
Not sure why your asking us for advice all you need is an agreement nothing you can do to stop her from breaking that agreement expect you breaking it first, everything else is just trust I guess
[–]321gumby 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You sound like me a few months ago... You like her...dont lie. She is going to break your heart. If she pulls away....let her go. If you chase her she WILL be gone. She won't be physically faithful dude.... Tell me she doesn't do coke? Because girls turn into different animals with coke. Models, coke, and sex all go very well together.
So fuck her as much as you can and never try and lock her down again.
[–]amuster588[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I admit I may have some feelings for her… its true. Its hard to be totally detached from her. We get on really well together actually like a good fit - physically, sexually, and personality wise.
But I dont want her as my girlfriend either - and its not because I am scared of rejection from her - Its a little bit complicated in this way. I have my own reasons for this.
I like her, but I too dont want her as my girlfriend, and for her - this agreement works pretty well since her job also makes her travel a lot.
So last night she told me she went to an after party after the event and that one of the really good looking models was all over her - asked her on a date. She told me its true he was very good looking but she doesnt want to date models - she didn’t say anything about me also being a reason but it could be too - she wants to make it as a model and these dudes are well established models too - so there is a networking component to it.
[–]PhoenixNightingale90 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
As someone who doesn’t have much of a social life I’ve always been a bit unsure of myself when a girl I’m with is going out with her friends and partying, so this was some great advice.
[–]mrblack-- 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
As long as she’s texting you to see you after she goes out it’s all good.
When that stops be concerned lol
[–]PhoenixNightingale90 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Texting while she’s actually out is also a good sign
[–]mrblack-- 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Her texting you… not you texting her btw
And don’t allow her to use you to entertain herself when she’s out, 2 texts max n should end with her telling you what time she’s coming to see you lol
[–]PhoenixNightingale90 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah of course, her texting you while she’s out with her friends.
She never texts when she is out with friends
[–]IGiveSilverBullets -4 points-3 points-2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If she’s Melania then you gotta be Don
[–]ftdrain 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This makes sense, except for the fact that OP should also be perusing other options instead of just waiting for the leftovers at 8am
[–]321gumby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The reality is... She is a hot loser.... Would he like her if she didn't have a banging body..... Probably not.
She is not yours OP.
[–]mrblack-- 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess, but that’s most women
[–]Liberaler 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think you caught feelings and don't want to admit it. It's between the lines. You don't say it directly, but imho you are aiming for a relationship.
She is partying regularly with attractive men. Alcohol is involved. You are not there. Do you really think, she is ready for a relationship?
[–]amuster588[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I admit some feelings have been caught.... still trying to avoid a relationship.
If I was actually in a relationship with her it would be also difficult to deal with her lifestyle - its high maintenance etc... That said this is not my primary reason or not wanting a relationship.
You are right its an issue the partying regularly with attractive men - theres no doubt about it. But it is part of her role as a model too to do these things and also enjoy while she is out too. It doesn't necessarily have to be sexual - ofc they flirt with her, dance and all - but if she decides to go home with them and fuck other men - thats quite a different story.
its not set that just because she has fun, banters, dances and even flirts back a bit that she will go and fuck them. For many girls fucking around and going home with men just like that is not something they'd wanna do for various reasons.
I am also in the picture. true we have a weird little relationship but it is what it is. I continue to focus on myself, my own value, and have a good time with her. If thats enough then great - if not then I just gotta keep improving.
[–]Liberaler 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know, I already assumed that. I think, you'll know her character a bit by now. But that covers 99 % of the opportunities there, but can you be sure about the other 1 %?
Alcohol + dancing + attractive guy + they celebrate something job related + a little tension in the relationship with you
Be careful, sometimes all the variables could be right for something to happen ...
Anyways, follow your own intuitions not random people on the internet. I wish you two all the best!
[–]Aramid55 44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Have other options open, meet other girls too etc to have sone balance in this relationship. If she is partying all the time it's very naive to think she will be loyal even if she agreed to.
Have fun and enjoy while it last but don't get attached. It's fwb not relationship
[–]amuster588[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Totally get you and all you say is true. But surely there must be a way to make the seduction level high enough such that she doesnt hook up at the clubs/afterparties/after after parties ;).
Like I don't text her that much either, like we go days without any conversations. So from her perspective there is no way she sees me as a pleb.
[–]d_pock_chope_bruh 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Believe me when I say your optimism is going to crush you. Ask her out or don't expect loyalty with the p*ssy. That's it.
[+]amuster588[S] -8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Thats true the time will surely come. What I will tell her is straight up - if you are going to do it Just let me know beforehand.
[–]d_pock_chope_bruh 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just asking but if you are afraid of her pursuing other men though, and you want that exclusivity, then why would being in a relationship be a problem? Like I guess if you're having unprotected sex, just be prepared for the worse my guy. I'll tell u rn that's exactly how you'll be finding out if she adheres to the agreement or not, and that's going to be a hell of a lot harder pill to swallow than her wanting a relationship imo. Some std's you can't give back so just be safe man.
[–]amuster588[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I guess in some ways if she wants to hook up with a dude there then there isn't really much I can do about it...
Maybe one of you has been in a similar situation in the past where youre dating someone like this but managed to come out on top against all odds.
Thoughts?
[–]Aramid55 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fuck her well, give her orgasns and romance, make her fall for you and act like she is totally free. The more you try to restrict her or you act needy the more likely she will not fall for you.
In my experience if you give best sex, have good time togheter and act like nothing is written in the stone and be cool with this girls fall for you.
Once I even said to a girl who was super hot and living far away that I like her a lot but if she meets someone who is gives perspective for relatniship she should go for it. She end up crying and falling even more for me. And it was tottaly not my intention, I just didn't wanted her to be stuck with fwb if she can get relatniship, I saw her as great girl at the time
Form logical standpoint it doesn't make any fucking sense. But girls don't follow logic when it comes to relationships.
Have good time for her, don't get attached and give her a lot of D.
Anyway, ons and sex with new people usually is not so great as with someone with who you already have sone connection. Idk what girl she is but some girls prefer quality over quantity
[–]amuster588[S] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
solid response. Appreciate it. It is hard to keep the rock mentality and not project my inner insecurities and jelousy to her but I have been doing well so far.
Makes a lot of sense. she went out last night to a club after her fashion show - usually she posts it on her IG, but this time she didn't, may be that she didn't want me to know. I found out cuz someone at the club I also followed happened to post a story where she was in it lol... I was a little bit disappointed seeing that last night for sure.
I scheduled a date with her for tonight, and today when she woke up she did text me.... I certainly will not ask anything about her time last night. probably for the best.
I'll message her "see you later" just to consolidate our date for the night.
[–]ProCoDAthlete[🍰] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OP ima be real, she's probably not adhering to this agreement. Exclusivity without even dating? Tf is this bro??? Go find other girls.
[–]Delicatestatesmen 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have dated many high caliber women and models. Models are hard to please and keep.. its a horrible rat race. I agree with Mr black your finances and stability is key. They will have everything being thrown at them, cars, big houses trips parties etc..in order for her career to thrive she has to appear single. Mr Black is correct don’t party with her. You can invite her to career business parties or your own things. You can go with her to functions she needs you at but choose these sparingly.. you are the calm in her life. Enjoy her looks and sex don’t expect a relationship out of her. Let her contact you and stay competitive surround yourself with other women. Let her come to you and say stop hanging with other girls etc.
[–]Ok_Abbreviations2264 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely do explore your options !
[–]321gumby 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No...dude. Think about it. You're an option. You asked for exclusivity and she turned it down. Dude, you want a woman who bugs you about being in a relationship. You got her to fuck you. She likes something about you. Don't make your life about her. Make your life MORE about you. Maybe she will like you more. YOU got one hot girl.... I promise you can do it again if she leaves.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
If you’re asking how to sustain a relationship, then you’ve already lost.
Big mistake asking her to be exclusive. That’s HER job. Next girlfriend, you wait for her to bring up exclusivity while you continue to fuck other girls.
source: 40+ women banged/dated including professional strippers etc
[–]focus_flow69 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya, hate to say it but basically this. Simple and to the chase.
[–]Brolynk13 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
you wait for her to bring up exclusivity
Can you please elaborate on this part? Is this a general tip or particular to OP's case? And why is it bad for a man to bring up exclusivity if that's what he wants/feels?
[–]mrcrow77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its not only valid in this case, it’s for every case, the man asking for a relationship subcomunicates that he needs the girl more than the girl needs him, and girls like the exactly opposite of that.
They want a man who has to be chased to be kept, a man with a thousand options but chose Her instead, and a man who asks for a girlfriend is not a man with options
[–]Brolynk13 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, I see... Thank you for the insight
[–]nordik1 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nailed it
[–]CocoBabeNYC 14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It's kind of like a man who works in the porn industry being expected to be faithful. Not saying it's impossible, but with so much temptation out there she is sure to stray. Just accept it and don't be jealous and weird. The more carefree you are, the more likely you are to keep her. You are likely not the first nor last man who falls head over heels for her and gets needy and clingy.
[–]amuster588[S] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
true. probably very hard for her to resist with all these super sexy men all over her lol ^^
I'll maintain my frame, not ask her questions about her nights out, and just focus on the moment.
[–]CocoBabeNYC 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Who knows maybe you can meet a sexy male model around her.
[–]amuster588[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no homo
[–]andreacocco 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just be sure not to fall in love with her or you will die
[–]Heizenbrg 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He can’t really do much, she is surrounded by an environment of temptation. Relationships that last longest are when both people don’t see other better options.
[–]bestmenrmenatbest 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I have dated a model before. Just enjoy and don’t take it too seriously
[–]amuster588[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
how did it go?
[–]bestmenrmenatbest 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You gotta treat as a casual thing & just enjoy each other. Obviously you can’t marry a model unless you filthy rich
whoa I dont think that is true at all, you don;t need to be "filthy rich" - at the end of the day when you think of what a model would want it would be a someone who can support her once she hangs up her modelling shoes. So yes 'able to support' - filthy rich is a totally different story. It is true because of the modelling lifestyle they get used to certain things, dinners, parties, cars, etc... but they are still regular people at the end of the day that want real relationships too if they can find it.
[–]ashton_men 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Lettuce pray for our fallen brother who is being so naïve and not seeing the bigger picture. Amen
[–]mrcrow77 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen
[–]Environmental_Work63 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
This sounds complicated mate. As other had said, continue seeing other people, but this becomes a bit hypocritical if you decide to sleep with someone else. You’re already one step ahead of anyone honestly, just don’t fuck it up. She’s coming to you for uncomplicated sex, when you’re not seeing her, just go out with your friends or continue finding a new hobby you genuinely like, this will kill that insecurity of her returning home late. If she decides you’re boring then that’s her lost and don’t take it personal. You literally had sex with a model who kept on coming back. Continue taking time to plan nice fun dates, she will see you take time to plan dates and will compare you with others who half-ass date night. Either way, win-win for you. At least you have new spots to bring another woman to.
Don’t get oneitis, you have the right to take a break if you’re developing this. If you’re ever feeling jealous or insecure, it’s okay to stop dating and work on yourself.
[–]ozzzy83 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, party girls, especially if they party that often, unless REALLY in love with you, will cheat when they drink a couple of drinks more. That is just a fact, it's a matter of time. A party girl prefers a guy who will also be a party guy, if you aren't, and she goes with her friends often, then it's a matter of time until someone seduces her, and bang her (or more of them).
[–]U1tra1ightBeam 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Is it her job to attend those parties and events?
Kind of? she has to go the events but not all the parties and stuff after. She likes to party a lot and does that for fun - not for job purposes. Ofc there is a networking element to it as she is with other people in the industry.
[–]poorwardobservations 4 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Ostensibly no, in reality kind of. Your career will die if you don’t.
[–]U1tra1ightBeam 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This makes the situation pretty clear then. Not to mention the fact that they are literally only in a FWB thing, so I’m not sure what are those “relationship” and “cheating” people talk about in these comments 😂
Tbh, OP, she can probably get nearly anyone she wants and she chose to sleep with you. Chill out, not everyone sleeps around. Also, pretty girls are often tired of the hype of good looks and just want to be treated like people.
[–]pua_max 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I like the comment that says “stay boring”. I agree with a slight twist - be like a rock to her. Listen to her hopes and aspirations. Walk with her through her past trauma. Make her feel understood. Allow her to completely open up to you and calmly help her reflect on how she wants to live her life. Through all of this, think 0 about yourself. You’re basically a therapist, a 3rd party, etc.
I once met a girl (who indeed was very cute) who made me feel truly understood. When we went out for the first time she insisted on paying for my coffee. I felt like she really got me and had high standards for how I should live my life. I recall during the date I got a call from my mom. I turned it off. And she said something like “If you don’t pick that up I’m going to beat the shit out of you”. Like semi-jokingly. But her strong sense of values (in this case family values) really got to me. It didn’t end up working out, but I still think about her. I’d take her over a generic model or 10 any day.
how did it end between you guys?
[–]pua_max 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Met her in nyc and went on a spur of the moment date before I had to leave. Wasn’t any way to continue.
[–]mjornir 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds like she likes you just by being you. So keep doing you, treat her like anyone else you’d be fucking and don’t put her on a pedestal
[–]jayjonas1996 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do any of you have experience dating models
Come on man now you're just rubbing it my face, but anyway hope someone can help you out.
[–]cangero0 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now usually I hate this saying, but I think in your specific case, this saying applies:
She's not yours, it's just your turn.
So don't get too hung up about "owning" her, just enjoy it while you can.
[–]Total_Obligation_371 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't stop her from losing interest. When she wants to leave, she'll leave. Just enjoy it while it lasts.
[–]Repulsive-Fee393 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Bro….. this isn’t sustainable unless you Jack up your value in life big time, she needs to see other hot women wanting you. Like pay them if you have to just to make an impression but sadly bro her being a model gives her way more kudos than you.
[–]nordik1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bingo, but I wouldn’t waste time paying them lol. This whole situation was done incorrectly and should mainly be marked up as a learning experience to correct in the future
[–]Repulsive-Fee393 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree, and to add to this I think the dude should see other women immediately. Go cold before she does, just to keep the balance
Agreed
[–]yiggaman 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You failed the moment you asked for exclusivity. You're supposed to let her do that. Enjoy your time my guy. Don't do no clingy shit like that again tho
[–]nordik1 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I’ve worked with models for a few years and have dated a few. The key is always cultivating more options or you will be too focused on your one and get caught up in your feelings like you already have
Never assume she is staying committed to your sexual exclusivity without giving her full commitment. Assume she is taking other dick and your life will be easier
Again, never stop cultivating options and dating other women if you don’t want to commit to her, otherwise you will drown in a sea of feels while she is out there cultivating her own options
Lastly, you have to have an irrational level of confidence. If you allow yourself to be intimidated by these other male models she will smell it a mile away. You must have a true iron-clad confidence level to you, and that is going to come from a combination of being on your own shit and again, cultivating other options all the time
Also let me just say, your sexual exclusivity without overall exclusivity is stupid. Pick one side or the other. Sit in the middle and you will lose this one unless you’re a savage constantly churning out women, but you’re not since you asked for sexual exclusivity so this is going to be a virtually unwinnable uphill battle because you will always care more than her.
[–]Brian_S7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How are you so gullible 😂😂
[–]mrcrow77 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Bro ima be honest with you, this girl is sorruounded by high valuable man (not only handsome models but also rich mans) and she is already giving signs of having other options.
-That ig shit she did it on purpose
Never listen to what a women says, judge her by her actions, she says she’ll commit to you, but acts like she’s looking for better options.
You went into her frame big time by asking her for exclusivity.
Connect with your masculinity, keep your frame and confidence, give 0 fucks about what she may do and have an interesting life, don’t gravitate towards her.
Threat her like she were some regular pussy, I know it’s hard because she’s got and that’s of weak point, but don’t let yourself start to slowly pedestalize her
[–]amuster588[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats true. Definitely surrounded by rich guys and handsome models constantly DMing her , flirting with her at parties, etc..
Clout is important but its not everything- personality is a massive kicker if you do have your physical and financial fitness in order.
It is true and fully get - We arent in a full relationship- so its only natural for her to also accept whatever else comes her way - not necessarily go through with hooking up - but definitely entertaining options - as she doesnt have the security with me that she would need to not enteraintain interest coming her way. Her womanly drive at the end of the day, all said and done is to get a man who will be a rock in her life - full relationship.
So I do expect there will be a call to action of sort soon. At some point I know she will tell me she is considering some other dude and would put me in a position of either commit or vacate.
I know when the time comes It will really suck but its what I get for having this FWB thing. I dont want her as my girlfriend so I will have to buckle down and take the hit when it does eventually happen.
[–]Real-Edge-9288 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is good stuff... I can also vouch for this. never trust a womans word...always look at her actions! Have fun with her then let her go. I suggest you start searching for other women starting today. good luck man!
[–]persiancat_god 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't listen to them, read this.
Fashion model is a very demanding job, the travelling can be very taxing, the photoshoot can take hours just the shoot alone without considering the make up session, fashion week is literally hell, running across city get dressed and getting make up on for 2-3 min walk and repeat that again multiple time. Female model doesn't usually go for male model, especially male runway model. Connecting and socialising is central part of their job, going to club or just having drink after show or photoshoot is the norm.
Look, you've already got yourself a partner with striking feature, that's something most people here could ever dream of. You need to get over your jealousy if you want to carry on with her, you can't expect her to not mingle with other male model, promoter or designer cause ITS THEIR JOB, if you can't, save yourself and hers time and end it. You've both already made a deal about exclusivity, man up and honour it, if she fail to honour it then that's not on you.
Try to understand from her point of view.
Thats true - you were right in so many ways.
She tells me all the time - she doesnt want to date other models - and never has done so in her life. I did respond saying “who knows that may change in the future”.
It is demanding and it is true she has to attend these events, has to socialize a lot and go for the parties to an extent. Ofc she herself likes to party and it’s better than staying home doing nothing right.
Youre 100% right. She is going to be doing these things and for sure I cant be jealous and insecure - I’d be feeling this way permanently then lol.
I get her POV. When I’m with her I never ask about she she gets up to and really focus on the moment. She herself will leak some little secrets here and there to me.
Last night we met again. Took her on a date then we returned to her place to do our usual. She mentioned at the after party of the event 1 of the super handsome models approached her a lot and asked her on a date. She said its true he was really handsome and sexy but she also didnt know how many girls he goes for, she doesnt want to be “easy”, develop a bad rep in the industry, and in general not be part of the industry gossip.
She never mentioned anything to do with us but maybe it was also on her mind - I dont know.
But essentially yes, she prefer not to date models and I am a good fit outside that whole world. I’m in the real world so to say.
But I also have to have my shit together- finances, physically, mentally and socially to sustain this haha. Models are quite high maintenance.
Wait so she said she doesn’t want to date other models and your response was “maybe that will change in the future”?
Do you like self-sabotage or something? Its like you are admitting defeat right in front of her “well you like me now but maybe later you’ll like models”. It also comes across as you fishing for a comforting response from her.
You should be saying something like “yeah I imagine the modelling industry is pretty promiscuous, lots of people fucking each other and causing drama. I had that in my teenage years and I find it’s better having a quality relationship with one person”. Or anything to help the idea that she’s better off being loyal to you.
sometimes I respond without any thinking involved....
[–]Aramid55 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah don't do it, don't put yourself lower than her. With this mindset she is better and hotter you are kind of losing it.
Enjoy time with her and focus on your thigns instead of thinking what she is doing when she is not with you.
Most of guys would like to be in a place where they can have fwb with model. Hehe. Consider yourself lucky
[–]mrblack-- 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You told him not to put himself lower than her… but then to consider himself lucky lol
[–]Aramid55 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well having problem because of dating a model is being kind of lucky. Most of the guys on this reddit barley get any girls.
So yeah, look at the bright side
Yeah It is definitely quite nice when its just us two. But for sure when she is away up to her usual antics partying and doing model shit, I definitely feel a burn.
[–]poorwardobservations2 points 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I’ve ran the influencer (anywhere between 10-250k followers, not full pro model though) gauntlet a couple times now. I think a lot of them want to keep something on the side like what you have- but you won’t be priority. For me this wasn’t an issue because they weren’t a priority of mine. But for you it sounds like it might be. At the end of the day clout comes first.
[–]OpenComparison1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Either be the most interesting person in the world or the most boring. No in between. These are ur options
[–]STROOQ -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She’s not a model, she’s a person and a human being who might want more in life than narcissistic hot guys that get everything they want.
You’re her breath of fresh air 😉
[–]Glacier_Sama -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Key here is to become an Alpha Male and maintain that status. Increase your testosterone and DHT. Your masculine hormones will retain the womans sexual attention, which in turn will retain her romantic attention as well.
[–]henlofr 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Use it as leverage to get more.
please elaborate
[–]henlofr1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Women see you with a hot woman, they immediately think you’re a hot guy, because women have much more elaborate criteria for attraction than men.
They see you with her, they think: “if I can get with him that makes me as attractive as she is”.
[–]Wolfpack360 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What’s keeping you from dating her but still wanting exclusivity? You already see her multiple times per week so the only thing that’s keeping this from being a relationship is putting a label on it. In my personal experience, expecting exclusivity without commitment all too often doesn’t end up playing out in your favor. You can’t have your cake and eat it too and if you can, just remember that eventually you’ll be out of cake, so just enjoy it for what it is and while it lasts. Every situation is different though.
I know. The time will come when another dude - potential suitor- will come into the pic.
I’ll have to make a decision- commit or vacate.
I’ll probably vacate given my own personal interests but it will suck I know.
[–]Ambitious-Ice2357 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Enjoy it while it lasts. Unless she’s incredibly loyal and values monogamy ,you’re going to have a very difficult time maintaining a relationship with her. She’ll be approached and hit on continuously by men that have more money, power and status then you. Very important that you NOT become possessive or jealous and that you let her know you trust her. In reality, this is counterintuitive to what you’ll actually be feeling inside.
Good luck.
[–]Pookiethetwentieth 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be honest she may appear okay with it but you’ve set a standard for her she’s okay with despite not fully committing. It’s kinda unfair to her. You can’t be perfect enough at sex to still not have someone get curious enough to want to try something or someone else. However, she’s definitely much more likely to say no if she’s committed. Also if that’s your reasoning for not committing you should stop asking her to be exclusive and seek other options too.
[–]rotaderpxepa 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Eat her pussy and fuck her exactly the way she likes every single day. If you get her brain chemically hooked on orgasms from you she will stay with you forever.
[–]YetzirahToAhssiah 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You enjoy the ride, and accept that you cannot control her actions or her emotions towards you.
Just be grateful to her and for her, for whatever amount of time it lasts. If it ends, let it end.
[–]Peelfest2016 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds fucking exhausting to me. Hope you have fun though bud.
[–]vroomvroomski 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm dating a model and I must say your situation is fucked because you feel below her and she maybe will pick up on it.
My girl also gets dms from hot dudes and celebs, but I feel secure because I know I'm also a catch and we make a great team.
If you don't wanna commit that much energy just use her to find other girls
[–]jjboy91 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't out her on a pedestal or whatever because she's model. You are already friend so keep doing what you do because you know she already value you and your time
Your fucked bro... Enjoy the ride
[–]HyakuShichifukujin 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not going to sugar coat it - the moment you focus all your effort, hopes, and dreams on one and only one woman, you’ve already lost half the battle. When you verbalize this to her and make it a social contract (with all the negative emotions that are expected to arise when - not if, but when - one of you breaks it and the other finds out) you’ve lost the other half.
I don’t have any advice for you for this relationship, but for the future get familiar with the concept of “oneitis”, understand how it is a killer of men, and do what it takes not to succumb to it. You want to become the interesting one with other options, and be busy enough with life (this doesn’t necessarily mean partying) to not have time to be texting one person all the damn time.
[–]Visual-Guide5473 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Congrats on getting yourself a model girlfriend. Now go get yourself a harem of models to ensure you don’t get oneitis for this one girl. You’ll be living the dream of pretty much every man on this subreddit.
Haha jk - ok actual advice. You have to understand most models are insecure and broke. They don’t make a ton of money and often are worried about their future. A lot of them actually don’t prefer to date male models because they get bored of these men very easily and in some cases feel more insecure around them. Models respond best to guys who don’t put them on a pedestal and treat them like normal girls, and aren’t afraid of them. Most models date average looking guys because they care more about personality than looks in men.
Keep doing what you’re doing but don’t put her on a pedestal, and keep the relationship fun and playful.
[–]2-0-3 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if you only want a fwb situation why should she text you when she’s out partying? i don’t even text guys i may want a potential relationship with during my nights out with friends. i don’t get why you want her to meet your standards - which are very relationship-like but you’re also saying that you’d cut her off if she wanted a relationship. that’s not really fair. as long as she’s not sleeping with anyone else, she hasn’t broken your agreement. if guys flirt with her, what’s it to you? she’s not yours, and you say that you don’t want her to be, but then you’re still jealous?
[–]strawberrysweetpea 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly, the advice in here is so out of touch with reality. She is WORKING. Even though they’re called parties, these parties still take a lot of emotional energy. She’s probably way more concerned with networking and replaying things that went wrong during fashion shows than she is with the male models. It’s human to notice that people are attractive, but actually flirting…thinking of clever comebacks and impressing someone…If she’s serious about her work, I doubt she’d have the energy for that.
Someone said y’all aren’t dating because she’s keeping her options open, but maybe it’s really just because she’s afraid of validating the idea that it’s hard for women to be in FWB relationships. Or maybe she’s human and gets confused when things aren’t clearly defined or gets scared of rejection like most people. Let her speak for herself. You wanna know what’s sexy these days? Directness. Open the conversation instead of putting something that could be good into other people’s hands. How do they actually know what she’s thinking and feeling about this?
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