Don't. Fap.

RobotGymnast · 2011-03-16T03:10:09+00:00

I noticed that [fapping less] came with [being more confident and positive].

crocodile7 · 2011-03-16T04:03:13+00:00

This sounds good in theory, but my worry is that after not fapping for a week, once you do get a girl home, you'll be done in ten seconds.

DamonBlack · 2011-03-16T03:10:37+00:00

Yea. Seddit talked me into trying it and I noticed a huge difference in my confidence (or perhaps more appropriately: my aggression). It might all be in your head, but at least in my case it helps with approach anxiety.

It keeps me from saying "fuck it, I don't need her anyways"... which is just one more excuse not to approach.

iceman_14877 · 2011-03-16T06:06:21+00:00

4th day without fapping, want to hump everything, its quite distracting

sose5000 · 2011-03-16T02:59:52+00:00

Just don't do it

modernsavage · 2011-03-16T08:37:04+00:00

Personal theory here, but I think that not fapping and the positive traits you listed are not related in a causal manner, but rather a correlative.

We've all but proven that the 'fapping makes your testosterone drop' is scientifically false. Rather, I posit that it is not the act of fapping, but the placement of yourself in situations where you feel comfortable and able to fap.

Remember how often you fap not out of horniness, but indeed out of simple boredom. "Well, nothing else to do... might as well play with my awesome toy" style. I believe the trick is that when we are living our lives with these periods of boredom, of directionless, is what leads to our passive, driveless states.

Instead, when we engage in "alpha" activities, in a manner that keeps us from the passivity required to fap, we build up the traits you listed in the OP. By restraining ourselves, we essentially engage in a self administered Marshmallow Test (see Deferred Gratification).

I will further posit that fapping without the aid of porn would be significantly less correlative with loss of drive and assertiveness. The simple act of being able to queue up a practically limitless amount of pornography leads to a mindset of instant gratification. A pattern develops that is simply impossible to replicate in real life, leading to inability to approach.

Obviously all things happen in a gradual manner. One night of pornography and a box of tissues isn't going to turn you into a mild mannered beta. Yet in the long term, via extended conditioning, we eventually begin to migrate to the path of least resistance towards pleasure, and it doesn't take a scientist to explain that being able to type in a url and be rewarded is much less difficult than going out.

Good luck in all your escapades.

tsibutsibu · 2011-03-16T05:12:42+00:00

I've only had bad experience with this. I don't understand how you guys get it to work.

Fapping makes me super-relaxed around women, relaxation = fun, fun = getting in state, getting in state = magnet to other people.

ratpriest · 2011-03-16T03:39:02+00:00

How about fapping without ejaculating?

I've been doing this lately and seriously have been increasing my lasting time. Just a side note...

ArtigianoDelCorpo · 2011-03-16T16:18:15+00:00

Ironically, I've already been doing this. The benefits are legitimate.

edit: I'm generally a r/fitness participant and I've had a very good lifting month. I know correlation =/= causation, but it's a thought.

originalwanster · 2011-03-16T09:11:05+00:00

I'm 10 days in! My urges to fap have been reduced to only in the morning when I wake up.

I cant quite explain it, but I think I've steadily increased my aggression in my activities and become much more active in school and the gym/athletics. Haven't noticed how im doing with my inner game and with the ladies though, will update if anything changes.

heisenberg149 · 2011-03-16T18:58:13+00:00

Already on day 2. It will not end well.

taraka · 2011-03-16T05:21:18+00:00

not this thread again.

Jacking off increases your testosterone. The article you keep reading is complete bullshit and isn't backed up by ANYTHING.

Nexism · 2011-03-16T03:19:48+00:00

Scientifically, fapping releases a hormone called "endorphin", blah blah blah blah, a function of this hormone is to relief stress.

rafaelcof · 2011-03-16T03:52:49+00:00

ok I won't

glassuser · 2011-03-16T13:54:25+00:00

I did that for February and it really didn't have that effect.

okcspecialist · 2011-03-16T14:23:01+00:00

I think it's in your head guys:

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_masturbating_increase_testosterone_levels

You would be better off curbing your drinking, especially if you drink moderately every day (this is highly suppressive of testosterone)

http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-4/282-287.htm

Both articles heavily referenced for your scientific pleasure.

yokhai · 2011-03-16T15:22:41+00:00

But once you internalize that, go back to fapping. Never go out with a bullet in the chamber.

mobsta · 2011-03-16T18:30:54+00:00

Wearing Nike's or not-fapping?

mrthrow · 2011-03-16T05:44:08+00:00

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RedErin · 2011-03-16T04:36:34+00:00

I found that masterbating helps in that you really enjoy the women dancing with you in a different way. Instead of thinking with your penis, you can really sit back and enjoy their wonderful bodies and what an honor it is to be touching her. That's the only difference I've found. No impact on my game.

I think it's too easy to become superstitious with this kind of thinking. If I don't fap I'll be successful. If I wear this clothes they will be more attracted... and so on. It really does not matter.

TRT_PUA · 2011-03-16T04:20:25+00:00

I saw this on seddit a while ago, i'm reposting

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201001/was-the-cowardly-lion-just-masturbating-too-much

InterApex · 2011-03-16T07:45:08+00:00

Fuck this is hard for me, I heard this a couple weeks ago, but now that I'm not doing it, I want too.

async2 · 2011-03-16T10:44:40+00:00

If I dont fap my balls feel like they have to explode after around 3 days.

bangthemermaid · 2011-03-16T11:09:58+00:00

what's the difference between fapping and sex then? does it mean you get less driven and assertive and attractive if you have a lot of sex too?

Amplifix · 2011-03-16T19:07:40+00:00

Actually this works, it's like women feel you need a piece of the pie. Downside is that it leads to premature ejaculation :p

Title	Don't. Fap.
Author	mrthrow
Upvotes	42
Comments	73
Date	March 16, 2011 2:31 AM UTC (15 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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