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[–]Technical_Hawk8547 118 points119 points120 points 4 years ago (32 children) | Copy Link
It’s all confidence mate, that’s what they’re drawn too. Nothing more. Most of these guys give off a vibe of “I don’t give a shit if you like me or not” which to women is attractive. Desperation and neediness drives them away. Those guys are the opposite
[–]Sad_Top1743 23 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If that was the key variable, all confident guys who didn’t give af would pull hotties. It’s definitely an important characteristic, but its not the key ingredient
[–]YY--YY 50 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
BS, if you are just a normal, harmless dude that just wants to live his life and has no interest in women, women don't give a single fuck.
[–]sarge457 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
normal, harmless dude that just wants to live his life
The mistake right here. This reads like boring AF, useless dude.
Women want a driven man, and even gangsters are driven in their own way.
[–]daddysgotanew 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Driven to end up shot dead in a sideways robbery by a cop or concealed carrier, or another loser gangster? So alpha.
[–]ShortStuffV2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't argue it's less interesting, though
[–]ij1211 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Someone being normal doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not driven. Most people working regular jobs are driven to have a career, succeed and do well in life but they won’t necessarily behave like gangsters
[–]sarge457 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read my response to the other guy. You are right.
[–]Technical_Hawk8547 37 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Well yeah you still need to approach and make a move. Living your best life and then sitting idle in the corner of the bar isn’t going to change anything. Women don’t approach, society tells them not too. Unless you’re a 10/10 you aren’t getting approached. Pity party is always accepting new members
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[–]Choice-Welder1482 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man, its so weird, I've been recently hanging out with this girl whos moderately attractive. I think most people would rate me as more attractive than her. Her brother talked to me when she wasn't around and said "dude.. Idk if you two are gonna date, and I really don't care either way, but you can hang out anytime, because her last boyfriend was a total fucking scumbag and we all hated him". I looked up the guy's Facebook. I was pretty shocked. Unattractive, dirty looking man. I think he has lots of issues like with drugs and lives with his parents. But for whatever reason, his lying and offputting behaviour is more attractive to her than I am. She seems to be losing interest in me. I guess there's no point in trying to even figure out WHY. She probably gets a thrill out of being with someone that her family hates. She probably finds it extremely boring when I come around because I just have a good ass time with her Mom, Dad, and brother.
[–]ShortStuffV2 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the common denominator here is that y'all are dating some crazy ass women.
[–]Choice-Welder1482 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol probably so. I actually keep in touch with my ex from high school/college time period. And when I was like ",what is wrong with me that these mediocre girls are leaving me?" And she told me basically that I'm choosing really weird trashy women and that I need to go back to dating high quality girls.
[–]peckerwooder 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wonder if all these trashy, dopehead type dudes just got blessed by the universe with big ol' hog dicks?
[–]rhofire 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm confident AS FUCK.
Give us an example of what happened when you confidently approached a woman you'd never met before but found attractive.
[–]ArtofWar2020 -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The root cause is so many girls being raised by single mothers with little to no positive male role models in their life. They then perpetuate the actions of their mother who may have multiple non committed relationships in and out. It’s not natural and it’s being perpetuated by all media (movies, music, tv) and our govt (increased benefits for single mothers but not married mothers)
[–]peckerwooder 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk why you were downvoted for this. Dated a girl a couple years back that you just described perfectly. Her mom and even grandma were both piece of shit, drug dealing/abusing ex-cons. She broke up with her toxic boyfriend to date me and even commented numerous times on how much better I treated her, how the sex was better, and how my dick was bigger than his. She still ended up missing him and left me to go back. What a fucking idiot.
[–]SkeetSkeet123hj 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean not always true. You also have to make yourself approachable in other ways. 90% of guys on here are so focused on trying to get girls at bars that they sit in the corner and act weird. Just go have fun and let the night unfold, girls will be around
[–]bandsupjay 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Did you just call his comment bs when hes speaking purely facts lol? The fuck does your comment have to do with anything? My guy was spot on. It is the confidence and non neediness thats separate “thugs” from nice guys
[–]ajayt365 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But he was right about the normal dude as well.
[–]pdcGhost 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's peacocking essentially. Yes being confident, but also being out there and showing off that you would be a good partner, provider, or future father.
[–]Exact_Stuff_3640 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They didn't say the bad boys have no interest in women. They said that the bad boys don't care what they think. That's a big distinction.
[–]J33P88 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate to agree...but this. My husband could have given 2 shits whether I wanted him or not when we first got together...it bothered me for a bit when he told me this (after we were married), but it was something that made home stand out. He wasn't needy or clingy. He was ok either way it went. This made.me.feel comfortable and relaxed. I think it'spart of what made things work.
[–]caesarfecit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
That being said however, there are some women who place such a premium on men's confidence that it's honestly a bit pathological and I think speaks to some serious issues on her part.
To me it's the same as the guys who blow hundreds of dollars on some chick's OnlyFans or simp after some random girl on social media. Like have some fucking self-respect and get your priorities in order.
Like there's a difference between saying someone has to have that baseline level of attractiveness, and selling your soul for some other person's high amount of superficial attractiveness.
[–]Technical_Hawk8547 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How is a women who likes a man with confidence pathological? It goes both ways. Do you prefer women that are insecure, shy, and unsure of themselves? The answer is no. Low self esteem isn’t attractive across both genders. There’s literally nothing more attractive then someone who is sure of themselves and knows who they are. It doesn’t make anyone “pathological” for being drawn towards that.
[–]Till_Such 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don’t know any guys that see unconfidence in a woman as a drawback though. I’d go on a limb and say women who are too confident are undesirable to a degree.
[–]Jaykee808 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I see it as a drawback, and I've definitely been with women who are insecure. That shit is so unattractive when a woman needs constant attention and compliments. Used to have a girl who wouldn't let me go out with the boys because she thought we were moving apart just because I want to spend a Wednesday night with the boys instead of her for once.
[–]rhofire 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
who wouldn't let me go out
What power did she have to stop you from going out?
[–]Jaykee808 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's a reason we're not together anymore lol, I got tired of having to build her confidence back up every time I did normal things like going to the club or to a friend's birthday party. Just saying that girls who are insecure are more trouble than they're worth.
[–]rhofire 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That was not my question to though. You said:
a girl who wouldn't let me go out
And, I’m asking, how did she possibly stop you from going out?
[–]caesarfecit 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How is a women who likes a man with confidence pathological?
You misread me. Liking confidence isn't pathological. Liking confidence to the point where you compromise on things you shouldn't or wouldn't is.
The same way as a guy who simps after a girl just because she's hot is pathological.
I'm sure there's a lot of women out there who are honestly bewildered why Johnny Depp put up with Amber Heard for so long, but guys get it.
[–]Beemer_Fan 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And also the element of danger makes them attractive more (but it's not true for all women)
[–]ThaMisterDR 53 points54 points55 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you notice that those "thugs" are more likely to show reckless and impulsive behavior? That's because they don't think every action over, they just do without hasitation. Therefore they're more in touch with their primal instincts and that's what works to attract a girl. The downside is that it also gets them into trouble more often.
[–]ecish 43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
People are attractive to all sorts of weird shit, sometimes even literal shit. Don’t overanalyze it, if you’re not a thug, you probably wouldn’t like those women anyways. If you just wanna fuck em, embrace the cringe and act like a thug.
I personally don’t give a shit what women are attracted to, trying to understand what goes on inside their brains isn’t worth the trouble. Plus half the time, they don’t even understand it either.
[–]mjornir 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. You don’t want those women who are attracted to those men, they’ve got some serious things going on with their mental health that they and you are ill-equipped to handle
[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Women that are attracted to losers (bad boys) have their own issues. They are not mentally and emotionally stable. Some of these women grew up in abusive households, some falsely believe that they can change these guys into a “good guy”. Unfortunately, these women are just as damaged as the men they’re drawn to.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes life depends on two things first how you were raised and how you want to live
[–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hard to say. It is a complex type of thing. If I had to say one reason it would be because their is adventure.
Young women are flocked with men and the bad boy/thug type of guy is always the stand out. He is also the dude who has something going on or is interesting. He surely is not the guy sitting at home studying or playing video games on the weekend. He is the one driving around the city.
[–]BigChestCliff 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Facts.
[–]bandsupjay 10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because they’re “bad”. They feel safe around them. What motherfucker is gonna try a thug LOL. Just be secure in yourself you dont need to become bad. Women just love and want security
[–]caesarfecit 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women don't feel safe around "bad boys" unless they're a masochist.
They're attracted to the superficial display of confidence and too aroused to really think too much.
It's arousal and attraction which drive that dynamic, not rapport, comfort or a feeling of safety.
[–]bandsupjay 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats your opinion lol. You cant fake it forever and women know that. Also depends on what type of girls you’re around.
[–]sun_t5u 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well a lot of reasons:
- they don't seek woman for self-evaluation and emotional support
- they can provide woman some on the edge / exciting emotions that a lot of woman crave
- they're upfront about what they want and don't waste time on playing games
- they focus on their own fun, emotions and pleasures rather than on making things right, equal and reasonable
[–]ShortStuffV2 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
they can provide woman some on the edge / exciting emotions that a lot of woman crave
Cyndi Lauper explained it forty years ago
[–]Only_Commercial_774 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
First step to getting girls: don’t hate on other men and don’t compare yourself to them
[–]Ikem32 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She don’t need to behave with bad guys, so she doesn’t.
They grow out of it after they have a few kids or hit the brick wall in mid 30s/40s. Then start looking for someone that can take care of them.
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[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
In the modern day, they don’t marry betas. They used to but nowadays they aren’t hence the steep rise in single rates
[–]SUBLlMlTY 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
yeah, committed relationships in general are definitely growing more out of style. but people are still fucking and pooping out children plenty so i guess human extinction won't be happening too soon.
[–]CloutComputing 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
See this is what I don't understand. At 25, I think I'm doing well for myself, I cleared all of my cystic acne away, I go to a barber who knows what the hell he's doing, I dress fairly well, and I just moved into a "luxury" apartment in the city. And I make over $85k if I work 5 hours of overtime a week. This is me being underemployed in my first job as well, and I have side hustles that I plan to get going soon.
This is usually considered "alpha". Not even fake alpha because what I have going on is tangible. Yet despite this, women have NOT been naturally attracted to me. To be fair, everything I've said above has only really been in place now for about the last month, when I moved out from living with my parents. Still, now that I'm here I feel like at least walking through Target that I should get some seductive glances, right? How could I possibly be a beta male simp?
[–]SkeetSkeet123hj 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You aren’t dude the two posters above you are just living in a forum world. High selection bias when no one on here knows what they are doing. Lots of successful relationships in the real world and you’re doing well
[–]mjornir -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You’re expecting something. That’s where you’re going wrong.
As soon as you stop expecting anything and remove yourself from your women-centric thinking, things will start to change
[–]SUBLlMlTY 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
it’s not about any of those things. it’s about your attitude, your demeanor, your outlook. things that can be “sensed” about you that you don’t need to show with words but are apparent in your actions and movements. your social circle matters to many women too and if you are friendless, or they aren't competing with other females in your life, they might just think you're not worthy of pursuing then either. really, there are a lot of ways for you to be written off.
also, i’m mostly talking about initial sexual attraction, which still seems to be (very) important in mating games as most people start relationships based on physical attraction. when it comes to actual committed relationships and emotional bonding, well, it gets a lot more nuanced. i don’t know what’s more important to you, but most guys only go to subs like this and ask directly about sexual advice. even though i think this approach is a bit dishonest, and men are even more lonely and affection starved than they admit, which is saying a lot because they already come off as deprived dogs when it comes to sex.
let me ask this, why are you doing all of those things with your life? what’s the most rewarding aspect of your current lifestyle?
[–]CloutComputing 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well that's a good analysis on things. I guess I'm just drawn to the lifestyle I'm living, but at the same time, I would be lying if I said that it wasn't to get girls at the same time.
Now since you posted this, my next door neighbor who I only met once when she moved in a month ago saw me in the apartment parking lot. We had small talk, she just asked for my number, said we should hang out, etc. She seemed really into me.
So I guess something I'm doing is working well. Now I don't know where to go from here?
[–]SUBLlMlTY 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lollll. i'm not here to advise. i'm just describing reality. make of it what you will.
[–]thrway_123 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you really a bitch saying shit like alpha and beta? LOL
[–]YY--YY 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its a biological instinct. They have no morals, are aggressive and unpredictable. That means if shit happens they will have a higher chance of surviving and women want to benefit from that.
[–]SkeetSkeet123hj 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
They don’t lol. I have no idea where you live but no one in my social circle has any interest in guys that look like actual thugs no matter how “confident” they are hahaha. These guys are girl repellent.
Idk your life but when me and my friends go to the bar and there are pretty girls these guys don’t get one ounce of attention because they dress terrible and are usually creepy with no social ques
[–]Lonely_Man22 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Dude I have a big cock and started to get muscles. It don’t mean shit if your not charismatic.
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[–]Lonely_Man22 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was just born with it, I’ve had 8inches since 7th grade, I’m also African, so it’s genetics also. In all honesty, if your already getting chicks even with a small dick, big dick doesn’t really matter because it doesn’t help you attract chicks if you don’t have charisma. I’m living proof of that. So, charisma is always number one. I’d rather have charisma with a shrimp dick than have this 8inch with no use for it.
[–]No_Fly_7360 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
My erection are getting crazy now, I havent touched myself or released in 1 month now. Omg
[–]Evil_god7 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Same here,lol
[–]sh0rtyx 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
as a female yeah most of us are attracted to thugs I honestly dont know why but its the fact that many woman want them that makes them really attractive and the fact that most of them show they dont need a woman, they are hard to get and that they make crazy decisions which makes them fun i like enjoying my life while I can and being crazy. Comments are saying that “they have big dicks” but trust me, personally me and most females I know, don’t think all thugs have “big cocks” and “thats what attracts us to them”.
We also like bad boys yeah, a super good boy may sometimes be boring but at the same time for a LONG TERM relationship I would look for a guy thats stable, smart and not a thug, I would be with a “thug” for a short term relationship just for fun. And trust me there is females who like “good boys” its just rare.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, their cocks are big metaphorically and it is driving women's imagination like crazy.
[–]sh0rtyx 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
as a woman not true
[–]Brutal_Affection 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Because they're:
Fearless.
Fun
It's not that complicated. If you are self-assured, up-front about what you want, slightly impulsive, and fun to be around, women will be into you.
Why wouldn't they be?
It just so happens that those traits are usually only found in what you dorks refer to as "bad boys". Yes, a little danger and impulsivity is fun and exciting. A woman can't get that by going on a date to the local gastropub with fucking Kevin from HR.
Most of you here are Kevin from HR; the exact opposite of those 2 traits I listed. You're scared shitless about everything, you overthink everything, and you're bland, safe, and boring as fuck.
I wouldn't want to hang out with you, either.
[–]coachmelloweyes 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yo. This is it.
They’re scared and their boring.
The mere concept of being scared of your boss dries any girls pussy up. So in a world full of men like this, why wouldn’t a reckless man who’s not even scared of police not turn her on?
[–]daddysgotanew 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not being afraid of anything just means you’re a dumbass with no common sense or risk assessment capability
[–]coachmelloweyes 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There’s a fat line between risk assessment and being scared of your own shadow. Which most normal men are.
[–]rudebwoy100 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They were masculine alphas and it turned the women on.
[–]TheMorningJoe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they “smell desperation a mile away” so they would rather get beat up then go for some dude who has their shit together. Whatever makes them wet I guess. /shrug
Because they're confident whilst many solid guys are beta and lack confidence.
However once she reaches 25 (now more like 30) and wants to settle and her hormones change, all of the sudden the gangster is very unattractive.
It's a simple math dude: Women in their prime (16-20) fuck alphas, Women past their prime (23-30) settle with betas.
A very well educated young girl will not fuck gangsters and losers, but its very rare nowadays due to retarded parents giving terrible education to their kids.
Women are attracted to thugs in the same way and for the same reason that men are attracted to thots and hos.
Human sexuality is not a refined nor civilized thing. It's borderline instinctual and primal because our biology required it to be. If it wasn't, then we would screw far less, have far fewer children, and the human race would be at more risk of dying out.
Now just because that's the way we're naturally set up, doesn't mean that's the last word. You can easily fuck up your life chasing trashy members of the opposite sex. When you see women with options chasing after low quality men like that, you should look at them the same way you look at simps who buy some girl's bath water. It's fundamentally low self esteem behavior to sell out your values and your own interests for sexual gratification.
What you should do is understand is that deep down, that's what we really look for in the opposite sex, sexually - their inner caveman/cavewoman. And you have the advantage of being smart enough to understand why you never go full retard.
Any woman that expects you to be 100% DGAF, macho, or Dark Triad bullshit is looking for a thug to match her thot. That to me is a game not worth playing.
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[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
A lot of thugs end up sucking dick in prison, just so we’re clear
[–]CocoBabeNYC 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
A badboy is a spectrum. You don't have to go full blown thug. Just have a bit of an edge and be a bit of a rebel.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
A bad boy is usually emotionally unstable deep down inside. He just hides it from women and finds the dumb ones who can’t figure it out.
[–]CocoBabeNYC 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If someone wants to do something that society disapproves of because he has rationally decided that what he wants to do is right and isn't hurting anybody and he confidently goes after said thing, is this a sign of emotional instability or something worthy of respect?
[–]BigChestCliff 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. This is the correct response to everything..
[–]No_Dig_5530 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Mmmm... thugs end up in jail or dead... there's a lot of heartbreak/loss and betrayal with guys that break all the rules... and the rule of your his only girl? Broke that shit. You're a side bitch. And if you're NOT the side bitch... he's got a side bitch. Just saying. Yolo;)
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[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
It goes against everything game says. You have to be self-assured and have your life together in order to get women to even look your way. These guys don't have anything sorted, so it proves the dichotomy.
Edit: Grammar
[–]CocoBabeNYC 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, what you read on here is wrong. You don't have to be perfect; have your life together, etc. all this is society conditioned bullshit. Be a good productive member of society (make money, have your life together) and that's the only way you can have value. Badboys just consider themselves valuable and don't give a shit about society.
[–]Tyler_Durden_Says 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Confidence
[–]Fapandwarmshowers 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can take the woman out of the Hood but not the Hood out of the woman
[–]Separate_Taste3428 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of women told me those type of guys you described sleep with men in the neighborhood as well and don’t mind going to jail for the same reason
[–]rwalsh138 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's the same reason you want to be friends with a thug over a nice guy: they're more fun, funnier, dangerous, and you feel cool around them. Ultimately, they will choose the nicer guys when they get older and want to settle down, but they will never forget how much fun they had with the bad boys.
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[–]poppetje44 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wouuldn't you love a woman thug if she was hot
[–]No_Environment_5550 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For the same reason some men just can’t quit fucking with crazy chicks. Low self esteem and not enough excitement in their lives. They feel like they’re being taken on some crazy adventure, which makes the sex seem better than it actually is. Until it gets old and that person starts dragging you into their mess. Some people wise up, some never do. Depends how broken they are, I guess.
[–]Alarming-Court-2180 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you got the term women confused with immature girls. A woman will never settle for a thug which is just another name for for an immature little boy. Like seriously look at those relationships it's like they never made it out of puberty or they still think they are in high school. A woman on the other hand won't have time for the BS and they won't waste their time trying to raise a little boy who should have already been grown.
[–]freespirit1963TJ 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a somewhat interesting insight on this subject from a personal experience. A number of years ago, I was single (divorced) and got introduced to a very attractive hair stylist who was also single. She had a small child and the kids I had were old enough to look after themselves for the most part. We hit it off, and the physical part of the relationship was terrific. I learned that she had most generally dated/cohabitated with bad boy types. The father of her child was in prison. She had been through a number of abusive relationships. She always presented herself in a very clean, well groomed manner. Her apartment was disgusting, clothes, clutter, old pizza boxes and just dirty. It also became apparent that her financial standing was a slow motion trainwreck. She told me in several occasions. I never mentioned anything negative about any of this to her, because I didn't think we were serious yet. We would get together at my place and hers about equally. My apartment was fairly clean and my finances were in reasonable order. I feel I have to emphasize that neither of these were ever a topic of discussion, ever. I received a phone message from her that she needed to talk. She said that she didn't feel like she could ever meet my, "standards". She was looking for a LTR, and she didn't see one with me. It wasn't a pleasant experience, but I realized she was right. Our loosely bonded relationship didn't end there, we had occasional sleep overs, I eventually married and moved. I have thought about that relationship a great deal. Was it a self esteem issue with her? Was it that she really didn't want to feel obligated to be a certain way?
[–]Zealousideal6669 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually those types of a party girl who takes life less seriously. If you wanna not just only but mainly to have fun they go for those guys. They're usually good-looking, fun to be around, they have other girls and friends around so they have massive social proof and they got a happy, good party vibe so ofc they're not that serious and planned goal driven person but they got the vibe, they can trigger emotions so it still works for them. Some girls find them losers and they rather wanna a goal-oriented ambitious guy who works hard on their dreams, it depends on the girl but maybe the best combination if you got both, your more serious and goal-driven side and just have a fun side so you can choose what type of girl you're dealing with so you can decide that shes more into your serious or your fun side. People are pretty complex so its not really that black and white
they aren't really displaying any sort of value.
To you, they aren't displaying value to you.
but I think there's a difference between bad boy and loser.
The bad boys are the ones getting the girls. The loser is the guy complaining about the bad boys getting the girls.
And I don't like judging others
Yet, here we are.
Maybe its really as simple as that, and the fact they have muscles and tattoos.
Maybe. Also, they go for what they want according to their own rules. You follow what the society has led you to believe. You're probable a regular nice guy.
[–]PatientAssociation62 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Confidence like others have said. I have spoken to girls who date thugs, losers, and assholes and they will say something like "he makes me feel safe". Never got what that really means, but someone broke it down for me. Basically he is tough and will hurt other dudes in defense of her, or at least that's how she sees it.
[–]Mundane_Natural5131 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also i feel like the “protection” aspect women care about too like a thug is always going to protect his girl more than a scrawny nerd with glasses that cant even stand up for his own self. Also a thug is always going to stand up to his girl and not let her walk over him and he wont beg her to stay when she leaves. Its not necessarily just because hes from a gang that makes them attractive
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