Prostitute murders sleeping man, robs him, serves only 15 years, gets clemency due to large number of people supporting her. A boy would not get this level of sympathy or this short a sentence. We should organize to make our voices heard in cases like this in the future. See my comment below.

mensmod · 2019-01-09T18:04:40+00:00

The moderators are aware that there is contention regarding this situation. Some users agree with the OP, others think that the child sex trafficking accounts for extenuating circumstances that makes this situation acceptable.

People are allowed to have different opinions. Please do discuss and debate.

However, the moderators will not be removing this discussion.

FallingPinkElephant · 2019-01-09T04:54:26+00:00

Isn't this the prostitute girl that brought her own firearm (aka premeditated murder) and shot the guy dead when he was sleeping and also stole his stuff?

Crusty_Nostrils · 2019-01-09T05:38:42+00:00

A 16 year old with FAS who was basically a drugged sex slave for human garbage who used her to rob people. Anyone who knows 16 year old girls knows that they are stupid, irrational, impressionable children.

This is a failure of society on so many levels, this girl would not have committed this murder if she weren't exposed to so many fucked up situations while still a child.

Her mother who drank while she was pregnant and didn't give her a stable upbringing. A hypocritical moralistic society that prefers to sweep prostitution under the rug instead of legalizing it and regulating it to keep the girls safe. An evil pimp who fed her drugs and raped her.

She never had a chance, never knew what a normal life looked like.

And this guy ends up paying the ultimate price for society's failure and then has his name dragged through the mud because of America's obsession with simplistic A vs B manufactured controversies. Because they can't face the fact that this happened not as a result of an evil greedy underage prostitute, or an evil abusive john, but a society that lets masses of people fall and doesn't pick them up.

This is a fucked up story among millions of fucked up stories and everyone loses in the end except the media parasites.

Colonel_Khazlik · 2019-01-09T10:44:43+00:00

From a news source that doesn't care about popularity points:

"First and foremost, Cyntoia Brown did not commit this murder because she was a child sex slave as her advocates would like you to believe. Cyntoia Brown's motive for murdering Johnny Allen in his sleep was robbery."

Among the evidence cited by Robinson, his first point was how Allen's "arms [were] folded underneath his head and his fingers were interlocked together," was inconsistent with Brown telling investigators he was reaching for a gun.

SOURCE

SOwED · 2019-01-09T05:06:42+00:00

In self defense she shot him in the back of the head, and then robbed him, you know, typical self defense stuff, and was forced into prostitution by her boyfriend that she lived with. No way it was more like "hey, pose as a prostitute, here's a gun, kill and rob this guy."

She was the victim, obviously, because a guy who picks up prostitutes deserves to die for being such a scumbag. She had her life wrongfully taken from her for committing murder and good old Tennessee is like "meh, she's changed."

She reoffends within 5 years.

SOwED · 2019-01-09T05:02:47+00:00

We truly serve a God of second chances and new beginnings

A God which simultaneously condemns murder but also grants full clemency if you just believe in the right shit.

Hibernia86 · 2019-01-09T02:36:22+00:00

I'm posting below here as well in order to allow me more space. The prostitute was 16 at the time, so I agree she should get a shorter sentence than an adult, but this case clearly wasn't self defense like the defense and her supporters allege. The man was sleeping (something not mentioned in the article) and shot in the back of the head. He was robbed afterwards. He likely thought she was over 18 since he had just met her. She received all the support she did due to her age, the face that she's female, and the fact she was a prostitute. A boy in her position would not have gotten clemency after only 15 years.

I was going to post on here earlier and organize people to call the Tennessee governor and ask him not to commute her sentence to this short, but I got caught up in the holidays and other projects. I'm going to try to post sooner in future cases so that we don't get steamrolled so much by groups that a bias toward female criminals. We need to make our voices heard as well.

Dan4t · 2019-01-09T09:27:54+00:00

I see very little evidence that she was a victim of human trafficking. So why do they call her that? Also her self defence story has zero evidence behind it.

GrievousGod · 2019-01-09T08:51:10+00:00

It feels like we're living in an idiocracy.

Cyntoia Brown was a popular topic on social media last year because people will retweet any dumb shit without knowing the first thing about the situation. Since it was popular on social media, dipshit celebrities like Kim Kardashian and Rihanna decided to jump in on the action and score themselves progressive points by calling for her release. Because #Feminism.

So then Bill Haslam, governor of Tennessee, decides to score himself some points as well by granting her clemency, because he's probably going to be running for the Senate in 2020.

What essentially happened was some fucking idiots on Twitter and Facebook started sharing a story with a whole bunch of fabricated details to make Cyntoia Brown's victim look like a rapist. Celebrities, also being total fucking tools, jumped on because it's hip and cool and they make their living off of hip and cool. Then the governor decided that he should be hip and cool too so he abused his power to let someone who should be locked up for the rest of her life out onto the street as a political move.

It's pure lunacy and people are clapping.

smfuel87 · 2019-01-09T05:22:32+00:00

Fking christ...

White Knighting for a hooker...

alc0 · 2019-01-09T10:18:40+00:00

Didn’t she rob the guy for her pimp?

Check out “actual justice warrior” video on her.

CrazyMoeFo · 2019-01-09T11:23:19+00:00

What about the "afluenza" kid? Didn't he kill 4 people

seeking101 · 2019-01-09T12:57:18+00:00

case and point: Brendan Dassey is still in prison

Good-Boi · 2019-01-09T08:58:28+00:00

Watching the media label this murder as a 'victim' is disgusting. She belongs in jail. Of course sex bias is at play here

Avicythe · 2019-01-09T16:23:03+00:00

"We truly serve a God of second chances and new beginnings" do you think she thought about this right before she shot and killed an unarmed SLEEPING man in the back of the head and then stole his WALLET AND CAR? oh and also since every news organization keeps calling her a sex trafficking victim or that she acted in self defense source source2 source3 let me drop some facts on you "Brown testified that she agreed to have sex with Allen for US$150"wikipedia and here's a direct source

"Allen asked her if she was hungry and if she was homeless. Brown answered yes to both questions and accepted Allen's offer to take her to his house" source

But you might say

“*Brown stated that Allen had intimidated her by repeatedly standing over her while she lay in his bed. As further motivation for the act of self defense, she stated that she believed Allen was reaching for a firearm as the two lay in bed. Thus prompting her to shoot Allen with her own firearm"

” however you can see that this is bullshit because quote “Allen was found dead in a pool of blood in his bed. Authorities say he was face down and had his hands under his head, as though he was sleeping when he was shot in the back of the head, court documents show.“here are court-documents and a news source It doesn't matter how bad your life was or what has happened to you. You killed in cold blood Cyntoia, a human lost their life at your hand. there. is. NO. EXCUSE.

pumpkinsnice · 2019-01-09T06:18:30+00:00

I can’t believe this got so many upvotes. She was a kid being sex trafficked and abused. Calling her a prostitute is factually incorrect.

aokusman · 2019-01-09T03:15:53+00:00

I wish her the best. A movie better not be made about this.

Tuplad · 2019-01-09T12:30:28+00:00

15 year old prostitute? I think she was a girl who was abused since childhood. Guys, wtf?

2019-01-09T13:48:22+00:00

She was a forced children. That‘s not prostitution, that‘s sex slavery. This guy paid for rape. First time with money, second time with his life. She should not have killed him and should get a long sentence for this. But she is also a victim and the killed guy is also a criminal. It‘s not as black-or-white as this post (of feminists the other way around) suggests.

2019-01-09T14:20:19+00:00

You guys are disgusting. Do any of you have 16 year old daughters? This girl was forced into basically sexual slavery and was a CHILD when this happened. The “victim” bought a child for sex. You men are a big part of what’s wrong with our society. I feel sick reading these comments.

Moctezuma1 · 2019-01-09T11:56:28+00:00

She was a 16 year old sex traffic victim. The man she killed was a child molester whom paid to have sex with her. Her 24 year old boyfriend pimp named Cut Throat got her hooked on drugs and pimped her out. I think her sentence was harsh making her serve 35 years before she is considered for parole.

OttoTang · 2019-01-09T14:47:28+00:00

"Underage girl, who is being prostituted against her will, kills assailant....." would be a better and accurate way to start this headline. And yes, had it been a boy he would have gotten more than this level of support. Want EQUAL rights and protections? I know I do. Vilifying this young girl will not help this cause (Mens Rights). ANY child, being forced to sell their bodies, needs protection. FULL STOP!

abatoire · 2019-01-09T15:46:44+00:00

Personally, I'm glad to see her released. I don't agree with her being am example of the me to movement. Yes she was vulnerable and likely coerced into the sex trade but did her boyfriend (nick name "cut throat", screams trustworthy... But her choice...) coerce her into taking a firearm, killing and robbing this man? I don't it. Her circumstances might have driven her to this action but she chose to commit cold blooded premeditated murder.

But the point of prison is to REFORM, I think a 16 year girl would have changed alot in 15 years. She has a second chance and hope she makes better use of this 'life' than she did in her last.

Whatchagonnadowhen · 2019-01-09T16:12:44+00:00

This title may be misleading. She was sex trafficked, so calling her a prostitute is disingenuous.

Moreover, placing a man in the same role isn't reasonable, since men are less likely to be trafficked and less likely to be able to charge for sex (as the title suggests this woman was doing).

Men's Rights- you are not MGTOW. Or, was this posted by a feminist attempting to make those who support men's rights (as I do) look like assholes?

There is a difference between advocating for boys and men, and wallowing in self pity over women receiving deserved clemency.

Isn't it your basic premise that the betterment of one sex needn't be at the cost of the other?

elmariachi304 · 2019-01-09T14:18:34+00:00

Wow, this is a disgusting post. This is the kind of shit that gives MRAs a bad name.

Let’s start with your description of this child as a “prostitute”. She is 16. Prostitution was not a career choice. Under 18 you can’t consent to sex. She was a victim of sex trafficking. I don’t even know you but I can tell you don’t have any daughters or nieces if you can think of a 16 year old as a prostitute.

I can’t think of a more repulsive stand to take, but you managed it. Congratulations.

NotWinter87 · 2019-01-09T08:32:51+00:00

Not an American - but she served 15 years and people are complaining that it’s not enough? 15 years is longer than the maximum sentence in my country and I don’t get the hate. Circumstances aside - the woman has spent half her life in jail for a crime she committed when she was a minor. It is quite likely that she’s changed, but from what you hear about the US prison system, it might not be for the better.

jaheiner · 2019-01-09T15:13:18+00:00

Shot a man in the back of the head and it’s self defense.

Yeah, a man would just be a cold blooded murderer. Sorry but if she was armed and his back was to her she could have walked away.

What utter horseshit.

CrazyMoeFo · 2019-01-09T11:22:22+00:00

What about Brock Turner?

bhullj11 · 2019-01-10T01:03:38+00:00

A 15 year sentence is fair in my opinion considering her age at the time of the crime, fetal alcohol syndrome, and her background of violence.

However, a male in her position would not be granted the same level of leniency.

Atheist101 · 2019-01-10T02:40:26+00:00

Actually OP, 15 years in prison is a standard sentence for murder.

Kingofthevale33 · 2019-01-09T13:23:10+00:00

I hope she gets shot in the head.

Edit: down votes? I thought an eye for an eye is justice?

Pajeet_My_Son · 2019-01-09T10:46:15+00:00

WHat I don’t get is how they say she was a victim of sex trafficking when after she got done murdering a looting she willingly goes back to her pimp? Like get the fuck outta here.

And if you don’t know right from wrong by 16 you’re probably retarded.

krypt_o · 2019-01-09T13:09:12+00:00

Isn't this the story heard about yesterday morning on the radio? The girl who murdered the man who raped her for years?

If true, I'm glad she's out and I feel no sympathy for the man. IF TRUE...

tipsymonk · 2019-01-09T19:27:44+00:00

The woman was a victim of human trafficking and was forced into become a sex worker by her captor. She killed her captor so she could escape. I'm all for this sub, but lets not forget our humanity.

Slapcaster_Mage · 2019-01-09T06:47:05+00:00

Lol, this place is the new Incel sub.

MusicallyManiacal · 2019-01-09T11:29:07+00:00

she was a sex slave if i remember correctly

Memeyatollah_of_Kek · 2019-01-09T14:37:37+00:00

TBH, I don't think this is an issue that should be taken up. The women murdered her statutory rapist. You don't have any sympathy?

masterdebator300 · 2019-01-09T03:50:07+00:00

Was it consenual? Or was it ...like ...rapey?

queenitarie · 2019-01-09T05:15:54+00:00

We have a discord

weedislif · 2019-01-09T08:08:12+00:00

yes she was raped and pimped but unless she shot him during the rape it's not self defense, its murder. if s dog attacks me and I shoot the dog a week later is it self defense? nope. if I shoot it during the attack then it is self defense. not a hard case to understand. then again can feminists understand anything.

117587219X · 2019-01-09T04:32:52+00:00

Apples to oranges, the problem is not that she should be given the equivalent of what a male in her position would chose, you should instead focus and put your energy into worrying and advocating for male children that commit similar crimes to be given a lighter sentence just as she did. There is no way he was trying to help her, in what way? He was not equipped to do so. It’s like if I give money on the side of a street to a pan handler they are just going to spend it on their bad habits, however if I donate it to a organization the odds it would used to directly help will drastically go up. You keep going on and on and crying about an execution taking place, she was mentally fucked up, more so since she was a child. What is execution to you and me doesn’t carry the full weight to someone who’s brain in not fully developed and may not be able to feel the full weight of their decisions, especially someone that lead the life to be prostituting theirselves at 16. You probably preach self responsibility and accountability to others. How this, the John would most likely still be alive today had he not gone around looking to pay for play. No one is more responsible for his death than he is.

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"Allen asked her if she was hungry and if she was homeless. Brown answered yes to both questions and accepted Allen's offer to take her to his house" source

But you might say

“*Brown stated that Allen had intimidated her by repeatedly standing over her while she lay in his bed. As further motivation for the act of self defense, she stated that she believed Allen was reaching for a firearm as the two lay in bed. Thus prompting her to shoot Allen with her own firearm"