Agent Orange Files Released

BreakinCombos · 2011-12-21T18:39:36+00:00

Can someone fill me in? I thought agent orange was like napalm... :S

ChesterMcFistiecuffs · 2011-12-22T02:00:45+00:00

I have read several of the threads. At first they made me angry, but the more I read, it just made me sad -- sad that these woman believe that all men are bad. Dont these poor women have fathers, brothers, uncles, grandfathers, etc.? How could someone become so jaded to hate all men (and boys!) with such fervor. The comments they were making about boys made me feel ill.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T00:44:03+00:00

Can we please make a concerted effort for there to be no vigilantism going on here? Letters to employers and media outlets to get them fired and shamed for their misandry is one thing, but if these people receive irl harassment that would discredit us, in addition to being just wrong.

I think it would be good if we could attach a message to all posts about this and all messages containing this information explaining that it's both counter-productive and immoral to engage or encourage real life harassment.

The last thing we need is some kind of battle of brute force and intimidation suppressing open dialogue about gender issues. The status quo is on their side and reason is on our side. Suppression of ideas and critical thinking can only help them.

Edit: I've read into it more and seen that what they write is not just misandrous hate but actual threats of violence. So in addition to attempting to get them shamed and fired, I think government action would also be good. "I hate men" is misandrous, but protected by free spech. "We should kill all the men" is conspiracy to commit violence, not speech. But still, no vigilantism. Respect the rule of law.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T01:28:14+00:00

hmm. the not raising male children one is difficult one for me as I have one!! I mean, we need female children and I’m so glad I have a daughter. SHe was my first, perhaps I should have stopped at one, but as I was saying on another thread just now I only had my radical reawakening when I was well into my second pregnancy.

Oh my god, that monster has a son. I almost feel dizzy with disgust.

theozoph · 2011-12-21T20:44:32+00:00

You know what I find fascinating about this whole thing?

The fact that people claiming to be MRAs feel they have any control whatsoever over whether or not this stuff gets released....

Funny how this issue brought out a whole pile of new 'MRAs' just in time for them to tell others what to do, or what not to do. Here's a hint...:

Talking about it after it happens is never the best time to prevent something...and ladies and gentlemen, you are FAR too late to this party to make demands on the hosts.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T01:19:48+00:00

Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all the women too and leave the little girls and radfems to create the utopia.

I guess feminism really is "for everybody."

zellyman · 2011-12-21T23:34:07+00:00

Judging by the reaction being caused by this, I'd say well done sir, you've stumbled onto a goldmine.

Warlizard · 2011-12-21T23:53:32+00:00

Ok, so I read a few of the threads and here are my thoughts.

Damn, they're mad.
They REALLY hate men.
Who cares? They are on a private board venting to each other, taking shit and it makes them happy. How does that affect you?
If you took "man" and replaced it with "black man", you would have a White Power BBS.

truthjusticeca · 2011-12-21T17:23:40+00:00

Nobody else is holding them responsible for their hate speech. Somebody has to do it.

Ignore the "do nothings"

zyk0s · 2011-12-21T18:09:31+00:00

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MRMRising · 2011-12-21T18:19:54+00:00

AgentOrange, I don't know how long you have been in the movement, but damn, you know how to make an entrance! This is incredible work, Bravo.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T03:40:58+00:00

I love some of the head-in-the-sand comments on /srs

Yet you know that if they were the ones on the other side of this release they'd be screaming their heads off that it's a violation of their right to free speech and it was just 'words'.

Because using the term "milkman" is equal to calling for systematic violence against three and a half billion people.

dreamendDischarger · 2011-12-21T17:05:28+00:00

I still think this is a bad idea. I don't really agree with publicly releasing this information even if loopholed.

Please please please people - do not do something stupid with it. Any short term ""gain"" would be more than offset by the harm to the men's rights movement.

Definitely out what was said. Show the world the misandry that goes on in places like that forum... but we win by being right, by working with truth - not by putting individuals in harm's way.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T03:55:43+00:00

So the hate mongers at SRS have decided what comments it is we're getting upset about and are deriding us for it

http://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/nlsbk/effortpost_feminism_inevitably_heads_down_the/c3a3ks5

How they looked at that blog post and decided that was the worst is beyond me. They ignore this gem...

As to what that cure may be, my best bet is that what’s wrong with men is that their androgens need genetic modification.

I’m serious about this. If we can do it with corn, men ought to be easy

Not to mention the comments...

And look at animals… primates do NOT do pair-bonding. Females live together in groups, they are the community, and men hover around the outskirts fighting and killing each other. Let’s go back to the way it’s supposed to be, I say.

and

The magic number to bring the males under control is ~30% of the population (roughly 2 females per male). There are a few countries (like in Africa) where the men have managed to kill themselves off with a lot of warring, then the women get into politics and make a lot of community-friendly political decisions, that benefit the whole community, not just women.

and

hmm. the not raising male children one is difficult one for me as I have one!! I mean, we need female children and I’m so glad I have a daughter. SHe was my first, perhaps I should have stopped at one, but as I was saying on another thread just now I only had my radical reawakening when I was well into my second pregnancy. We need to severely curtail male power out there in the world. When their social power is annihilated surely that will count for something. Black men are bigger, faster and stronger than white men, this is obvious, you only have to look at the Olympics to see that, and yet white men have always managed to oppress them. Japanese men are tiny and yet they have completely dominated Asia for a century. So I don’t think physical size and strength is the issue here. it’s the structural workings of social power. Men need to be stripped of their social, economic and political power. The rest will follow.

This is my favorite though...

Even if we killed off 90% of men, the majority of women left over would do their best to keep the oppressive system. I’d dare say we’d have to kill off all the women too and leave the little girls and radfems to create the utopia.

2011-12-21T23:05:25+00:00

FYI, you and/or your comment have been found guilty of something or other by reddit's least tolerant and most vile hate group, r/SRS. Not affiliated r/SRS, nor any groups or causes.

2011-12-21T23:36:36+00:00

Your post has been linked up in r/SRS, an unpleasant subreddit dedicated to scouring reddit for posts they would love to downvote (but insist they do not). Not affiliated r/SRS, nor any groups or causes.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T01:24:49+00:00

Interesting, BUT THERE MUST BE NO HARASSMENT. PLEASE.

I like to know who my enemies are, but please no attempts to shut them up.

Letters to employers and media outlets to get them fired and shamed for their misandry

NO. NO. NO. That feminists do this is why I hate them so much. We should be mocking the worst parts of feminism not copying them.

theozoph · 2011-12-22T00:09:39+00:00

Someone is going to get killed over this shit. And when they do you're gonna stick your heads in the sand and pretend you had nothing to do with it. I know it doesn't mean shit to you but I fucking hate you all.

Unconfidence · 2012-01-01T05:18:04+00:00

I'm going to stick to my guns and say that there's nothing wrong with this. I've posted on numerous other threads, many defending men's rights, and one of my strong principles is that nobody should ever be held accountable for the offense another person feels from what you say. This extends to threats. If someone simply says, "I want to kill all men" or "I am going to rape your face" or "Get ready, here comes the face-rape brigade!" or -anything- that makes you feel threatened, and does nothing else, it's not wrong. The only immoral way to use words is deception.

If these people want to talk about this stuff, that's fine with me. If they try to harm another individual, they should be charged accordingly, but not before that point. Furthermore, if the people are to be fired from their jobs over inappropriate use of company/organization resources, then the nature of that material should be kept private and not released to the public.

It is my firm belief that, despite the horrible beliefs espoused by these people, the only thing we should have heard about it was that random people were discharged for inappropriate use of resources. I think some crazy shit, and I'd hate to have to explain to my bosses why I'm a proponent of legal suicide.

Ma99ie · 2011-12-22T03:08:49+00:00

I reiterate my objection to the naming of radfem hub names, and the posting of personal information. I shall not download the information.

DarthOvious · 2011-12-22T12:54:17+00:00

This thread says it all with all the idiots who come in here to have a go at this.

John Terry will be up in court because of a racial slur he directed at another player where he will recieve a heavy fine and possibly a jail sentence and pretty much nobody gives a fuck.

Meanwhile, while only trying to out the identities of some Radfem bigots who want to exterminate most of the male population we then get the "Oh noes, you can't reveal these women identities, they might be harmed by someone".

Some people are just plain fucking stupid.

douglasmacarthur · 2011-12-22T02:40:19+00:00

scumbag MRAs:

claims moral high ground

doxes users of insanely tiny, stupid message board.

theozoph · 2011-12-21T19:10:43+00:00

i too love inciting violence on women doing nothing but posting on an internet board. you fucking idiots.

faggot_liberal · 2011-12-22T05:51:19+00:00

Can we out SRS next? These stupid coward whores deserve a little sobering humility and justice.

KMFCM · 2011-12-21T21:44:32+00:00

good sir, I appreciate.

boharareddit · 2011-12-21T21:37:54+00:00

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1338h4x · 2011-12-21T22:40:06+00:00

You're going to get someone killed. You've handed over the private lives of these people to an angry mob hellbent on 4chan-style vigilante justice, all because they merely expressed opinions you don't like. This kind of thing never ends well, and the blood will be on your hands. Shame on you.

Deadeyeguy · 2011-12-21T17:11:25+00:00

Yep, this is a bad idea. Public shaming of someones life is a pathetic childish tactic. How would you like it if someone did it to you?

2011-12-22T04:46:55+00:00

Backstory?

2011-12-21T19:32:10+00:00

guys you should probably read up on ur-fascism because thats basically what you commit every single day lmao

Title	Agent Orange Files Released
Author	AgentmraOrangemrm
Upvotes	37
Comments	399
Date	December 21, 2011 4:55 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/nleln/agent_orange_files_released/
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