Something I find amusing.

rusty_chipmunk · 2012-08-07T18:27:11+00:00

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oneiorosgrip · 2012-08-07T17:37:06+00:00

That's been one of my peeves with the concept. For all of the hue and cry about equal treatment, feminism all too often fights for treatment of women as inferior beings. This is a pretty obvious example.

hardwarequestions · 2012-08-07T17:39:19+00:00

Youll find that few people think as low of women as feminists do. They're convinced women are easily controlled, influenced, and held down. They're convinced women need special help and are otherwise incapable of getting what they personally want, and deciding what they want for themselves.

MaunaLoona · 2012-08-07T17:30:37+00:00

This feminist claim builds on mistaken but widespread notions that

Men always want sex
Men always initiate sexual encounters
Men are always the perpetrators of sexual assault

As such, women are passive, while men are the actors. How can you blame a woman who is passive? That would be blaming the victim!

Polim10 · 2012-08-07T19:09:54+00:00

Well if both men and women are drunk they must be raping each other, either that or the reasoning only applies to man because he has..errm..social power or something. What's that? Logic? We don't get taught that in Gender Studies, thank you.

PissedOffNinjaBum · 2012-08-07T18:25:19+00:00

Either they have to accept that women can't make decisions whilst drunk and men can, or drop the whole argument all together to be somewhat consistent.

Ask the feminists to prove that a women can't just put a gun to a guy's head and tell him to fuck her. This whole victimization thing from feminists is just tiring.

2012-08-07T18:12:04+00:00

Not if you assume that only men are capable of rape, like a lot of morons do. They just say that an erection is consent, while a woman being wet is not.

sibqm_lmvm · 2012-08-07T17:32:10+00:00

"Not to insult, but does that make 'female' some sort of disability?"

By their own definitions, yes. Feminists are champions when it comes to victimization. They tell me that I'm incapable of raping someone, that I can't make choices while I'm drunk, that I'll always have some excuse for my behavior because I, as a grown woman, am incapable of acting of my own accord. They never say it outright, and they'll deny ever saying it of you quote them, but that is what they imply in everything they say. Second-wave feminism was all about empowerment and being accountable for what you did. Third-wave is simply about winning the Oppression Olympics.

shrodingerstherapist · 2012-08-07T20:52:47+00:00

You're making the mistake of using logic.

Radfem is all about infantilizing "persons of gender" and relieving them of all responsibility for their actions and decisions.

dumbguyscene28 · 2012-08-07T22:35:58+00:00

Similar to this image that went around earlier today where "feminism believes men are better than that" http://i.imgur.com/aceuT.jpg, I can't tell you the number of times I've made a comment very similar to yours and said that "feminism seems to say that women are powerless, incapable of speaking for themselves, unable to make a decision, unable to take responsibility, I believe women are far more capable than that".

Anyway, I've been banned pretty much every place I've written that.

Demonspawn · 2012-08-07T18:01:17+00:00

It always amuses me how feminists are supposedly against Sharia law... yet they beg for it.

mythin · 2012-08-07T19:16:41+00:00

I was trying to argue how feminism is the exact thing that is keeping women down right now, and some people just won't believe me.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/xsbw1/how_the_feminist_definition_of_rape_made_me_feel/c5ph458?context=2

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-08-07T20:23:12+00:00

Even the Oppression Olympics is segregated by sex.

2012-08-07T19:14:15+00:00

you assume that feminists believe that men can make good decisions. According to feminism, men are incapable of goodness unless actively acting under direct obedience to designated feminists.

mikesteane · 2012-08-08T05:36:11+00:00

If women cannot make decisions after drinking, they should not be allowed to drink. They might take it into their heads to make a false rape accusation or drive a car.

AndrewSZ11 · 2012-08-07T19:47:28+00:00

I don't find it amusing I find it scary for my brothers out there who have to deal with this kind of thought process. Personally I just opt out of the bar scene and getting excessively drunk but to each their own.

dakru · 2012-08-08T01:23:24+00:00

I thought the way they got around this was to say that whoever "feels" violated is the one who was raped. It's messed up.

Atomic69 · 2012-08-08T03:37:32+00:00

When you are drunk you are still responsible for yourself and can make decisions. When they accuse somebody of rape under those circumstances its just an excuse, so they won't seem like a whore. Some women are just sociopaths when it comes to men. I am not saying women don't get raped when they are drunk. its not because they are drunk and the guy "takes advantage". The girl can say no and walk away. It would be because the guy forcibly had sex with her. That would be rape.

2012-08-08T08:01:52+00:00

And there you found the little secret, that feminists are actually sexists that hate both women and men.

Like they give male ideals higher value than female ideals (instead of the same value), by thinking women are supposed to like male jobs like construction or engineering. (Of course there are exceptions, and nobody says women can’t do those jobs. It’s about most women liking or not liking them.)

And by agreeing to the sexist view that female ideals and wishes would somehow be less worth, by calling them “brainwashed by the male-dominated society”.

Baby girls like to play with puppets, baby boys with toy blocks. It has been proven countless times that that is not learned, but genetic. And what’s so bad about wanting to play with puppets that anyway? What’s so bad about social/communication jobs compared to construction/engineering? What’s so bad about wanting to just be a parent? (No matter the gender, of course.)

I like how we complement each other, by specializing and doing what we’re best at.

rightsbot · 2012-08-07T17:10:19+00:00

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Aerialcharles · 2012-08-07T19:34:21+00:00

Post this on r/feminism or 2xchromosomes. I'd like to see what is said.

yourfaceyourass · 2012-08-08T03:47:52+00:00

One thing is you're not considering is that it largely depends on whose initiating the sex. If a drunk women climbs on top of you and you're drunk as well, I would highly doubt that they would say its rape. (or I sure hope so)

But it does seem to revolve around the idea that only woman can be victims as sex is being viewed as a "man on women" thing, instead of something thats done by two people. The men and women have sex together vs the man has sex with the woman.

mayonesa · 2012-08-20T13:07:19+00:00

Feminism is passive aggression.

It relies on the man always being the actor, and having bad intent.

mean0dean0 · 2012-08-08T19:32:10+00:00

Actually, yes--feminist doctrine hides the disdain for women's thinking within patriarchal institutions, and downplays the deleterious effects of feminist theory and policy on women of lower classes. Alain Soral explains this and more about feminism's actual actions in the world of commerce and society, regardless of their intentions.

DejaBoo · 2012-08-08T02:31:12+00:00

I'll just leave THIS HERE.

VerySpecialSnowflake · 2012-08-07T18:22:55+00:00

This only works if you concede that men are better at making the decision to rape people. I don't think that's what you really want to argue.

Title	Something I find amusing.
Author	DannyStoilov
Upvotes	147
Comments	96
Date	August 7, 2012 5:08 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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