Q4All: What opinions expressed on this subreddit contrast with your experience in the real world?

wtknight · 2017-03-03T11:32:42+00:00

As a college student who mostly hangs out with other students... college life is literally nothing like this subreddit make it seem like.

JoeFuckingSchmoe · 2017-03-03T11:31:20+00:00

It seems to me nobody ever talks about how there are a lot of women who don't get attention from men, in the same way that incel men don't get attention from women. Often times, they're unattractive, have unattractive personalities, and share a lot of traits of incel men. You think Trigglypuff has ever been hit on? Why do you think those type of women are so angry?

Alth12 · 2017-03-03T12:52:59+00:00

I dont see the AF/BB stuff, and all women riding some CC. I also see Chad constantly just not in the way TRP portrays him as some muscled hunk. The Chad depicted on here is a masculine representation of what they think an ideal man looks like. Real examples of Chads would be Mick Jagger, Harry Styles etc. Men that aren't seen as attractive to other men, who then label it money or fame that gets them women, but ask women who've met them or been in their presence and there is just something unidentifiable (call it an aura, or whatever) that makes them swoon, even if they didn't find them attractive before.

wtknight · 2017-03-03T13:24:41+00:00

I don't think that the type of woman that TRP thinks are ubiquitous are as ubiquitous as they think. I managed to find plenty of non-AWALT women, although I do admit that some women are like what TRP describes. Perhaps if I had gone around trying to find casual sex all the time I might have had more AF/BB type problems.

dj10show · 2017-03-03T13:48:28+00:00

Average guys not getting laid.

An average SMV gets you laid and gets you a GF. Probably not porn star sex because porn stars aren't average, but if your SMV is so low that you are unable to connect with women and you're really trying, you're not average.

HoxHound · 2017-03-03T13:22:50+00:00

Every woman on this subreddit and reddit in general talks about how they split the bill when out on a date. This is something that I haven't encountered in all my years of dating.

Anytime I'm out with a woman, even when we're in an LTR, she always expects me to foot the bill.

EliteSpartanRanger · 2017-03-03T15:43:44+00:00

80/20 rule

"average men can't get laid" "guys who don't look conventionally handsome can't get relationships"

Most of the obese men (and other men who aren't conventionally physically attractive) I know are married, that's why I believe that there's someone for everyone. They usually marry people of the same attractiveness, though, so I guess if a redpiller is only noticing women who are fit then that does decrease his chances a lot if he's not conventionally attractive.

IamTheWalkingMenu · 2017-03-03T12:37:56+00:00

Definitely most of the extreme views including:

That people even give a shit about gender dynamics and spend a lot of time and energy fretting about it. They don't.

That people care about STEM.

That both genders are some monolithic entity that move in concert like a swarm of birds.

That women only date about top 20% of men

That women ride some CC

That while on vacation women's legs spring open widely.

That men are simple creatures lacking depth.

But the biggest one of all is:

THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE EVEN HEARD OF REDDIT.

PurpleBanner · 2017-03-03T11:22:02+00:00

Almost everything redpill and bluepill men say about women I find is contradicted by the real world.

Zoidbergluver · 2017-03-03T11:20:18+00:00

The idea that women are only attracted to 20% of men, or that all women like Chads, anything like that. My friends and I constantly disagree on what is attractive! I prefer scrawny to big muscles, I prefer shaved to bearded, I prefer younger looking guys. Obviously, many women disagree and like big burly bearded men. Everyones tastes are a little different! Theres no such thing as a "Chad" because theres no agreed upon ideal man.

wtknight · 2017-03-03T12:06:11+00:00

Chad existing and incels being a problem.

JaggedYellowPill · 2017-03-03T15:47:59+00:00

What opinions expressed on this subreddit contrast with your experience in the real world?

Practically all of it.

Both sides of this sub have a tendency to express opinions that are "all or nothing" in one direction or the other. But humans are infinitely more complex than that. AWALT is a good example

Almost all human behaviors and traits are on a continuum. The behaviors TRP observes in women DO happen. Sometimes. The strategies TRP recommends DO work... Sometimes.

But anytime either side says or implies "always" or "never," it's practically a guarantee that they're wrong*.

*My biased observation is that TRP followers are the most guilty of this black&white thinking.

cxj · 2017-03-03T20:20:48+00:00

Women do not/cannot get fucked over in divorces. I live in CA and have known multiple nurses who gross 6 figures get divorce raped by really scummy ex husbands, even ones who beat them or are in jail lol. Yes those laws may have been intended to target men but in practice they hit the higher earner, which is increasingly women.

Being short or Asian is an inherent SMV death sentence. It's a disadvantage that can absolutely be overcome, largely via redpill tactics like lifting or getting into shape, social status and dominance, charisma etc.

STEM is a good career to go into if you want to get laid a lot. I know dudes who left this field for bullshit non careers due to lifestyle reasons including less opportunities for casual sex lol.

Marrying a stay at home wife is a good plan at all. TRP usually says don't marry which makes sense but then says "but if you do make sure it's a virgin sweetheart etc" which I think is the worst way to get married. If you're going to, you need to find an equal or greater earner to get the best odds of avoiding divorce rape. This has its own problems but imo is better than putting yourself at risk.

I disagree about the degree to which promiscuity affects women's RMV. Yes there are attractive men who will rule out such women but for the most part such men were paired off early anyways so they were out of the running and irrelevant. The main feature that matters is her looks.

Prior societies offered a better deal to men. There were some aspects of this I agree with like more stable marriages, but lots of those stable marriages were unhappy and sacrificed personal happiness for societal stability. It was a survival mechanism for the group not a tool of happiness for the individual. The advantages did not outweighs being drafted into shit like World War One or working brutal physical jobs with huge risk. The current society has its problems and is likely unsustainable but is not objectively worse for men than "ye old patriarchy."

Superfluous_Toast · 2017-03-03T16:05:42+00:00

There are plenty of guys that meet my minimum requirements for physical attraction. I see them every day. Also, I don't like muscles. Stop telling me what I find attractive, redpill.

SoooAlpha4 · 2017-03-03T17:51:22+00:00

My experience in the real world is that not all men or women are alike.

Believe it or not.

There may be common patterns as far as what we look for in partners, but ultimately we are not monoliths.

Also, everyone here spends way too much time on the internet. It's not healthy.

midnightvulpine · 2017-03-03T22:16:48+00:00

That women are stupid children who will only interact with men if there is some benefit. I work amongst a variety of women of many ages, sizes and cultures.

They are not the vile creatures some paint them to be. Some aren't pleasant, as most people are, but most are pleasant enough.

Of course, I know the above mildly hyperbolic view is not held by all, but some profess to, be they serious or not. Regardless, I can't help but shake my head whenever that comes up in part or in whole.

AlistairUndereem · 2017-03-03T23:55:31+00:00

That I'm "doomed" because I'm 5'8. My height has always been such a non-factor in my life that I never thought about it until I went on Reddit. The most depressing part about my height was being at a disadvantage in most sports I cared about in high school. I find it fascinating so many men here claim it's the bane of their existence.

siaynoq11 · 2017-03-03T14:13:07+00:00

There are so many, but the biggest one is how hugely important their sex lives appears to be to RPers. My husband and I have a great, very active sex life, but on my list of priorities and things that I think about daily sex is definitely not in the top 5. Maybe not even in the top 10. My existence doesn't revolve around satisfying my libido. I'm sure he would say the same thing. I think probably most well-adjusted people feel the same... there's too much shit to do in life to sit there and obsessively systematize, perseverate over and oversimplify gender dynamics in order to get laid constantly. I see sex as being the #1 priority AT ALL TIMES for the Red Pill, which I don't think accurately reflects the experience of normal humans.

LeaderOfGamergate · 2017-03-03T14:35:16+00:00

I'm not a fan of casual sex or premarital sex for that matter as a disclaimer. But if we go by the feminist definition of rape, then I'm pretty sure 99% of sex that happened when I was at college would have been rape. Most young people in college have sex while really drunk. If you believe that's rape, okay that's your opinion, but realise that you're labelling a huge amount of intercourse that's taking place and there's no way in hell that's all going to get prosecuted or any judge will take it seriously.

[deleted] · 2017-03-03T17:02:19+00:00

Blacks don't get married. That ppd opinion is just wrong. Blacks get married, but LATER in their lives.

It doesn't surprise me though, because most ppders are white folk who never interact with blacks on a regular or normal basis.

NalkaNalka · 2017-03-03T17:08:29+00:00

What opinions expressed on this subreddit contrast with your experience in the real world?

--that gender dynamics and intersexual relationships are incomprehensibly complex and that they cannot be figured out

--that women are incomprehensibly complex and cannot be figured out

--that relationships are unique things, always different, and there are infinite combinations of interactions that "work" to attract the opposite sex

--that patterns, trends and dispositions in male and female nature cannot ever be identified or predicted

--that fat men are sexually attractive (a claim that's being advanced at this moment on this thread)

--that the attributes of niceness and kindness actually create sexual attraction; that these attributes actually make women sexually desire men with these attributes even if they lack "alpha" traits

--that "beta/comfort" traits actually create sexual attraction in women; that beta/comfort traits make women horny and make women desire sex with men exhibiting those traits

--that women don't settle for and marry men they're not sexually attracted to or are much less sexually attracted to than the men they used to fuck as younger women. (Women and Blues think this is very rare; I think it's much more common than most people recognize)

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[deleted] · 2017-03-03T17:45:50+00:00

Mighty mighty swoldiers blow out "toned" guys for both sex and relationships

[deleted] · 2017-03-03T20:10:49+00:00

No, it's about right.

thats kind of the problem

mashakos · 2017-03-09T13:27:09+00:00

This is going to sound a bit BP but ... eh

That a man needs to be an alpha CEO/social butterfly in order to be noticed by women. Sure those things definitely work but that's like saying the key to success is to have a billion dollars - not a helpful way to get there.

What worked for me was communication and making sure I maintain myself enough not to turn into a jobless blob who can't live on his own. The maintaining part came first but the learning to communicate part was what led to my success with women.

Q4All: What opinions expressed on this subreddit contrast with your experience in the real world?

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