I posted a MR link in r/bestof, someone claimed we are a hate group. This is the following argument

alecbenzer · 2012-11-07T05:37:54+00:00

It's unfortunate since groups like that make it impossible to actually discuss the nuances of gender

Oh, I see you are a member of MR so we won't be discussing this anymore.

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A_Hard_Goodbye · 2012-11-07T08:42:58+00:00

Hate group? Lel, this is probably the friendliest subreddit I'm subscribed to. I've seen multiple posts from women here make it to the front page, never seen any sort of 'hate' towards any sort of person. I guess pointing out feminist hypocrisy, misandry and questionable behavior is considered 'hate' now?

Xenoith · 2012-11-07T06:07:52+00:00

It's easier to call us a hate group and ignore us than acknowledge arguments that have evidence backing them.

cuteman · 2012-11-07T08:06:51+00:00

That individual posts in a lot of "trans" oriented subs and has a jaded perspective. This guy/girl just seems conflicted in general--- try not to add insult to injury and rub it in, let's keep it professional and show through example the positive nature of this sub.

Skyline969 · 2012-11-07T15:19:12+00:00

Sure we're a hate group. We hate inequality.

d3isgay · 2012-11-07T10:03:37+00:00

First retort should've been:

Not a hate group

EDIT: First google result for "mensrights reddit hate group"

Boss_Monkey · 2012-11-07T10:43:03+00:00

Feminists just don't benefit from debate, that is why their ideas are becoming stale.

caesarkid1 · 2012-11-07T04:08:54+00:00

up-voted you and added my two cents.

2012-11-07T08:26:18+00:00

So someone who lacks critical thinking skills feels this is a hate group? Oh well. I wouldnt trouble yourself with the opinions of someone who cant construct an even remotely intellectual argument.

Keep on fighting for gender equality my friends, on both sides. We have a long way to go before fathers have full rights regarding children and men are treated equally in the court of law.

iggybdawg · 2012-11-07T15:14:05+00:00

I got told to check my privilege and stop mansplaining with my testicular thought processes the other day. wow!

Here's some links I found to try and understand what had happened to me.

http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2011/06/23/seriously-what-about-the-menz-noh/

http://www.partyontheright.com/dear-feminists-check-your-privilege-spencer-dewitt/

superproxyman · 2012-11-07T07:09:38+00:00

Bestof link?

PieMasterBob · 2012-11-07T04:46:20+00:00

Read the link he posted didn't look very misogynistic to me.

MensActivism

Australia: Girl, 13, charged after taxi knife attack

Purposefully only mentioning female crime while bias is not hateful.

Also the source he posted lacks sources.

DuchessofYanks · 2012-11-07T16:33:28+00:00

I get so sick of the cliche "you just hate women" crap. If they actually bothered to talk to MRAs or look up what they're about they'd know that a significant percentage of us are women or MRM supporters.

Revoran · 2012-11-07T06:35:12+00:00

Sorry man, while BlackManticore was being a bigoted idiot ... this isn't really bestof worthy. It's just some guy's one-liner.

IDidntChooseUsername · 2012-11-07T19:00:34+00:00

I see your opinions differ from mine. Because I don't want to be proved wrong, I will refuse to argue with you anymore.

2012-11-07T11:31:04+00:00

If the only argument someone has against /MR is the splc list I don't bother. Give them a coolstorybro.jpg and keep on trucking.

If you actually read the splc list reasoning for calling this a hate group it's laughable. Men who post here are sometimes angry and a mod called feminism a global conspiracy once.

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loose-dendrite · 2012-11-07T13:48:36+00:00

You cannot argue with a feminist. That is pointless. College professors would get fired for challenging a feminist position in academia, just challenging mind you, there wouldn't actually be a rebuttal. This is who feminists learn from.

magnetard · 2012-11-07T15:59:03+00:00

After a while I started reading JasonMacker's comments in the Earl of Lemongrab's voice.

bearhammer · 2012-11-07T20:12:17+00:00

What's the link BlackManticore had in her first comment?

2012-11-08T00:38:30+00:00

I argued with someone similar to that. I simply said feminism wasn't perfect, not even that I thought the feminist movement was ever invalid, but that a few feminist efforts have been harmful to men by making things a zero-sum game, and that addressing that is important.

I started with an angle of validating this list of 200 or so articles by showing the sources, all peer-reviewed journals. But apparently SagePub is pay-to-publish. (Hint: It isn't. The person was talking bullshit. If he/she wasn't, then it's not common information.)

So, then I told them about the NISVS, a CDC study which uses shady methodology to cover male rape (like making "rape" a penetrative act), and then they pulled that SPLC thing and finished with something like: "I would trust the CDC over an MRA any day.", which is either an appeal to authority (preferring the CDC because of their status) or an ad hominem (dismissing an argument due to me being an MRA).

I just gave up after that.

The_Patriarchy · 2012-11-07T14:48:26+00:00

In the future, you might want to just link to this explanation. In this instance, I took the liberty of doing that for you. I hope you don't mind.

2012-11-07T08:38:40+00:00

some of the whiny little "fembots" would shit themselves if they tried their nonsense on a first-waver, they'd get a smack in the ear and told to stop being a whiny brat.

JockeVXO · 2012-11-07T20:03:15+00:00

You might want to point out that the SPLC never claimed the MRM was a hate group or this subreddit for that matter, that's just how some bigots chose to interpret an article written by a biased feminist supporter.

Tyranix969 · 2012-11-07T07:29:46+00:00

Well, NOW it's a hate group. I subscribed hoping to see a pattern of positive change... All I see is angering bullshit from some ignorant third party.

Zeds_dead · 2012-11-07T12:48:28+00:00

All you did was cement the idea in their mind that MRA is opposed to feminists.

2012-11-07T12:58:24+00:00

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yopp343 · 2012-11-07T09:13:29+00:00

This is prob the best tactic for the feminists. If they were to have a honest debate they'd lose and then they'd have personal crisis. It's not easy to realize your whole belief system is a sham.

man_and_machine · 2012-11-07T14:29:42+00:00

ight so where do those links go?

Bohica69 · 2012-11-08T14:48:17+00:00

PS: You were "Arguing" with a "Chick with a dick". Lol

2012-11-07T11:02:27+00:00

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elemee · 2012-11-07T14:12:10+00:00

...wait but you called him/her a feminist based on their actions, in a derogatory manner. being a feminist is not a bad thing. you guys really have to start to understand that feminists do not counter men's rights. SOME crazy self-proclaimed "feminists" do, but why would they represent all feminists? and why does that image continue to be portrayed by MR? That makes just as much sense as someone generalizing MR as a hate group because of SOME crazy self-proclaimed Men's Rights advocates.

It's getting really frustrating reading these posts as a feminist as well as a supporter of men's rights. This community is becoming hateful IMO.

Unenjoyed · 2012-11-07T07:40:30+00:00

Potential r/worstof material, for diddly dang sure.

ELTEE212 · 2012-11-07T13:12:21+00:00

wait, this reddit isn't a joke?

Carono · 2012-11-07T16:41:17+00:00

Feminism is a disease. I guess in a sense we are a hate group because we hate the idea of these fucking uptight whores waging war on our gender. For thousands of years Men have ruled the world, not women.

I'd respect them more if they weren't so useless. Till then fuck'em and fuck feminist whores. Feminists are a cancer upon the world. Mens Rights Activists are the chemo fucking therapy, we are fighting the good fight to save men.

Title	I posted a MR link in r/bestof, someone claimed we are a hate group. This is the following argument
Author	HeadingTooNFL
Upvotes	711
Comments	158
Date	November 7, 2012 3:56 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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