My encounter with a feminist co-worker of mine

420Riffs · 2021-08-20T07:09:53+00:00

Just tell them if that's how it works then don't ask for any child support payments when the man doesn't want the kids.

F_EM_ALL_ · 2021-08-20T04:09:02+00:00

I think you must have the biggest balls ever. You went to a bar, with coworkers, one of whom is a huge feminist. In my world, that could be a recipe for disaster. Everything about that says “RUN AWAY!!!”. Have you ever argued with a feminist? You can’t win an argument with them. They don’t give a shit about facts. You give them facts and logic and their voices get louder. Then they start with the insults. Then ALL the other women automatically take their side. Then a bunch of white-knights swoop in to save the distressed damsel. Imagine if the other person didn’t stop you from embarrassing her. Imagine what might have happened when her feelings got hurt and she got all emotional. And you work in the same place!!! I’ve never been one to back down from a fight, but there are rare occasions when I just know there’s no winning. This would be one of them.

ohnoesAlterEgo · 2021-08-20T09:15:01+00:00

You want to get fired? Because this is how you get fired, i have a few in my work place too I don’t even look at them or acknowledge them unless is work related.

DavidByron2 · 2021-08-20T04:29:53+00:00

Pretty normal. Feminists can go from "we only want equality" to "fuck all men" faster than a sports car going from zero to sixty.

Shoot4321 · 2021-08-20T06:20:30+00:00

Here’s a tip for the future, especially in a work environment, “think as you like but do as others”, honestly when people mention this stuff at work I just nod my head, I don’t care, not being fired or accused is more important than making any “points”. At least then I know who to avoid and actively log all conversations with.

Starforce2005 · 2021-08-20T03:34:18+00:00

This is typical double standard, when it benefits them, they play the biology card.

When it's the opposite, they play the equality card.

As a result, the culture completely disregard the biology trait of male, and favors female.

Blu3_w4ff1es · 2021-08-20T11:53:00+00:00

HR meeting incoming

Sankdamoney · 2021-08-20T11:35:43+00:00

These types will write down your every word, round up others against you, and one day go to HR to take you down. Stay away, no matter what they look like.

PigTenis · 2021-08-20T09:44:26+00:00

What do you guys think?

Next step - HR. This is what I think. She will try to cancel you now.

You dont debate with feminists, you avoid them. Especially at work. As well as anything that tells you about its preferred pronoun (even if its he/she).

MelkorHimself · 2021-08-20T14:11:25+00:00

A more appropriate thread title: "How To Get Fired In Three Easy Steps"

If you want to win the long game, then vote with your wallet, with your feet, and with a ballot. NEVER show your cards. That was ridiculously foolish.

elebrin · 2021-08-20T12:13:39+00:00

I have a few rules I adhere to, to prevent this sort of thing:

Rule 1: never, ever, ever, ever, drink at work events. If you even so much as see a coworker leaving as you arrive, consider it a work event. If you want to drink, go two towns over first or drink at home.

Rule 2: never drink with women that aren't close family members. You can drink with your mother, sister, daughter (once she is an adult), and wife if you want. Aunts cousins, and nieces are OK if you trust them. You can ignore this rule if you are married and your own wife is present and will be in your company 100% of the time, and possibly if you are well-established and well-known to be gay.

Rule 3: when someone you work (most especially women you work with, they are the ones who can get you in trouble) with expresses an opinion that has nothing to do with your work, ignore it. Never volunteer your own opinion. They do not deserve to know what you think. What's in your head is private information, it's like your hand of cards in a board game. If they press you for your opinion, just agree with them and give them nothing.

The people I work with see a guy who gets his shit done, and maybe they see whatever political views they project on me because I have never said anything overtly political at work. The only person on my team who even knows my fiancee's name or that I am engaged is my boss, and that's because she's my emergency contact. They don't know my hobbies, they don't know my interests, they don't know my opinions about anything that isn't my work and that is absolutely how it should be. Build the stone wall.

Mr_QQing · 2021-08-20T12:06:31+00:00

Even though I agree with what you said, I also think you're incredibly stupid for engaging in that type of discussion with a feminist coworker... especially at a bar. Unless you're okay with getting fired and/or crucified.

Burke2 · 2021-08-20T12:12:22+00:00

Anyway, we start talking about male and female privilege.

I would never step on this landmine with a coworker. Just not worth the workplace headache in my eyes, and most of your other coworkers will likely be against you without the context of the conversation.

EviessVeralan · 2021-08-20T11:40:16+00:00

I personally would not recommend debating with co workers, especially in today's political climate. But its funny that she asked for an example of female privilege then justified it with "But muh vagina".

CanniBal1320 · 2021-08-20T06:13:02+00:00

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SpaceGecko47 · 2021-08-20T11:39:39+00:00

Ey dude, I don't know if you've read the study that you've linked, but the second one that according to you speaks about mothers abusing their children more often than fathers actually does so otherwise. They say it at the start, but then they spend a lot of time explaining why that idea is flawed and in the end they actually have statistics that disprove your point. Sorry mate, I definitely believe that her reaction was stupid and that she probably is, but your proof actually dissprooves your idea

IronJohnMRA · 2021-08-20T12:51:35+00:00

What do you guys think?

I would stay away from her. And start looking for a new job.

_Benny_Lava · 2021-08-20T13:41:55+00:00

I think you are wasting your time arguing with her.

McFeely_Smackup · 2021-08-20T18:10:26+00:00

I can't imagine ever thinking this conversation conversation with a coworker is a good idea

xTheVyrusx · 2021-08-20T18:26:11+00:00

Keep it strictly work related, you’re walking on very thin ice arguing with a feminist about gender issues.

pappo4ever · 2021-08-20T22:45:17+00:00

Anyway, we started talking about male and female privilege.

Oh boy here we go. I would have bailed immediately, unless you like danger.

Someone jumped in to stop me from embarrassing her

No, listen, someone jumped in to fucking save your life. You don't understand feminists, they go through life looking for a target and you just painted a big one on your back. You have to thank that guy.

What do you guys think?

I think you have unnecessarily gained an enemy . Better start looking for another job, you might need one unexpectedly.

Gaiinahat · 2021-08-21T03:33:10+00:00

Someone jumped in to keep you from getting a trip to HR, if it isn't too late already. I'd watch your back, my dude. You may have inadvertently painted a target on your back. When I hear women talking about feminist shit, I keep my mouth shut. If they ask my opinion, I don't know anything about that kind of stuff. Also, you can't argue facts to women. They don't speak that kind of language.

xX_avocadoman_Xx · 2021-08-20T04:08:58+00:00

Its just a shitty excuse. Your completely in the right

1FrantikFrann1 · 2021-08-20T05:41:56+00:00

Uteran Law dictates that men are the oppressors, and women are the oppressed. Good luck convincing any feminist otherwise. Just be calm and patient, dropping indisputable facts here and there, and maybe, some day, their views will change for the better.

StudentOfTheTruth0 · 2021-08-20T06:54:35+00:00

The self-inflation women do is that they self-delude themselves in the belief system that somehow some specific organs, such as a uterus or vagina give them some sort of undefined "inherent value" that men don't have.

Several things are wrong with this.

(1) Goats, sheep, cows, all mammals give births the same way, not big deal whatsoever. The uterus is a delivery mechanism, Mother Nature took care of that, in an automated fashion, long before humans even appeared on the planet. Making a big hysteria out of such a common and trivial thing is completely self-serving, narcissistic and lunatic, but it serves their purposes to extort ever more privileges, power and money for themselves.

(2) The problem on this planet isn't the lack of uteruses at all. Au contraire, he problem is overpopulation. The problem is too many uteruses working in overdrive. Dropping an endless number of unplanned babies on the planet, for whom the planet doesn't have resources. A massive voluntary fallopian tube tie-off would be a good start to solve the problems of the planet, including climate change that is also the result of overpopulation.

(3) For their information, vaginas and uteruses are completely valueless without a man's sperm. Yes, half the baby's DNA comes from the father, the baby is half the father's, biologically. Women have no more rights to take away a men's children than any thief. Yet, they steal men's children from them in divorce courts all the time, because this society allows them. What a pathetic shame.

(4) What exactly is the definition of "inherent value" of a human being? And on what basis, exactly? They are lunatic because they are conferring this "award" on themselves. Men, in contrast, never gave them any of it. Men don't care about fake and idiotic "inherent value" calculations. All men have to do is to deny it to them. All men have to respond to female demands in the name of their "inherent value" is "shove it up where the sun never shines" and walk away from them. Which is the essence of the MGTOW philosophy, so viciously and furiously hated and persecuted by women and feminists. Because they sense the danger of MGTOW to them: men who tuned out cannot be controlled by women and cannot be used by women as walking ATMs. Which, to them, is the only reason for men to exist. So when a man denies these to them, they go hysterical and furious against the completely harmless MGTOW men, who, by their nature, are completely safe from all the stuff feminists like to complain all the time: rape, harassment, violence, whatnot. But they are furious because the cannot tolerate the loss of control over men.

The moral of the long story: whenever a feminist comes with any uterus-related claim, such as "9 month of this or that", a man just has to tell them the above points. Your uterus is useless without a man's sperm, it is only a common delivery mechanism that all goats and sheep use all the time the same way, your uterus causes endless problems of overpopulation, and, contrary to your self-delusion, it doesn't give you one red cent of extra "value" that men don't have. Denying reproductive and parental rights to men because of an automatically operating organ, useless without sperm, is human theft and a human rights violation. Now, go shove it up.

Time for some uterus-education for women.

BagpolanReddit · 2021-08-20T08:20:31+00:00

Newsflash there are artificial wombs. Is there artificial sperm?

Completeepicness_1 · 2021-08-20T12:13:13+00:00

Ah, the TERF, definitely at the bottom of the scale.

General-Ad9818 · 2021-08-20T13:36:20+00:00

It’s probably for the best that someone stopped you since she could possibly use the victim card and use your words against you. Even though I am in agreement with you, it’s not worth getting fired over. Besides you can’t reason with feminists no matter how much logic and evidence you present to them.

It’s best to just not engage and avoid them. It’s better to be safe than sorry

Legitimate_Catch_283 · 2021-08-20T14:40:10+00:00

If I went to a bar with a feminist coworker the last thing I would want to talk about would be male and female privilege

ladyofthenight_ · 2021-08-20T14:51:52+00:00

You’re both morons.

Hefty_Ant1025 · 2021-08-20T16:01:31+00:00

Do you want to be hauled into HR and fired? What is wrong with you?

Lopsided_Daffodil_3 · 2021-08-20T16:33:45+00:00

I want to know more about this purse with pictures of Michelle Obama. Are the picture just like inside the purse and she carries them around for some reason, or did she actually find a purse with Michelle Obama’s face embroidered or patched on it. Can you get a picture of what this purse looks like IRL?

alclarkey · 2021-08-20T22:26:28+00:00

"You're a man, you wouldn't understand"

"I'd never leave my kid with a man"

Went to her facebook page, sure enough the feminist fist symbol proudly displayed in the background.

2021-08-21T03:00:40+00:00

First; why would you ever engage in debate (or even conversation outside of work related) with a Feminist? Especially at your place of business? These are the people who make problems/drama; and because your views are "Non Mainstream Standard" you'll be punished, either socially (by your Liberal coworkers) or administrative (HR).

Second, there are multiple types of Feminists (but they're all the Enemy). Generally the ones who Revere Michelle Obama are your average "Basic bitch" Lib Fems. Careful with them; they're generally quite fragile; Rad Fems tend to build up a thicker skin (but not by much); if you accidentally shatter a Lib Fems world view it could create some serious problems for you.

vitalesan · 2021-08-20T09:31:41+00:00

She just proved your point!😂

i_phped_in_the_pool · 2021-08-20T17:26:37+00:00

Just tell her women carry the baby for 9 months but men pay for the baby for 18 years.

Edit: also risky talking about this with any coworkers unless you don't value your job unfortunately 😕

VDogMeat · 2021-08-20T08:17:43+00:00

Just don't ever let her be alone with you. She clearly thinks you are a lesser being because of what is between your legs, you know from history what one human does to another that they deem "lesser".

Reidorf · 2021-08-20T14:59:56+00:00

FYI, f you scroll down to the end of the source you cited regarding your claim that women are more likely to abuse, the source actually holds the exact opposite proposition, and stays there are only more women abusers because if the higher likelihood of being the caregiver.

I don't know of if I agree with the source but just letting you know according to what you cited the first fact causes the second.

ziggmuff · 2021-08-20T09:07:57+00:00

What was your response to her going to be that you held back on?

I like the cut of your jib.

EgalitarianFacts · 2021-08-20T13:34:29+00:00

She cited a reason based on sex, and thus is a sexist you don't have to give one fuck about.

Poyo-Espacial · 2021-08-20T16:32:57+00:00

It seems to me you didn't read the whole thing of the child abuse. It basically says more women abuse children than men, yet that is because women are taking care of more children than men. After some stats and maths it says you are more likely to get abused physically or mentally by a man.

Rph23 · 2021-08-20T12:53:34+00:00

This post is cringe

rahsoft · 2021-08-20T09:05:34+00:00

children are more likely to be abused by their mother than by their father

the page you linked to says the opposite...

-MaiQ- · 2021-08-20T11:28:24+00:00

Probably better that somebody stopped you, don't argue with an idiot, she will bring you to her level and beat you with her experience

hottake_toothache · 2021-08-20T13:39:52+00:00

Women think that carrying babies is their trump card that shuts up anything men might have to say.

rom_sk · 2021-08-20T13:42:18+00:00

You went looking for a fight and found one. Don't expect any pity when it backfires, "Firestarter"

WTFOMGBBQ · 2021-08-20T14:04:36+00:00

Great, she must be a strongly against child support.

brofesor · 2021-08-20T14:09:00+00:00

I'd say something like: “Well, you try to support a moody woman through 9 months of pregnancy, provide for her and the child during the first 3 years, and then tell me she deserves the child more.”

therenousername · 2021-08-20T14:16:22+00:00

At this point I won't even give the stats they demand because they call them "Fake"

InformalCriticism · 2021-08-20T15:22:06+00:00

When they can asexually reproduce, they can ignore male parenting.

Gordopolis · 2021-08-20T17:49:29+00:00

"And everyone clapped..."

ImJustHereForCorn · 2021-08-20T18:18:38+00:00

Should've kept on going mate, bury that bitch to show her her own privilege that she drowns herself in.

Leather_Tax8677 · 2021-08-20T18:32:28+00:00

She’s not wrong, if they both put as much effort (financially, emotionally etc..) in the education of their child before the divorce, then the justice need something to decide who’s gonna keep the child, so it’s not really wrong to say that, when you know that women can die during the pregnancy, when giving birth or after that. She literally « risked her life » for the child. So I guess this is not wrong.

XOXO-Gossip-Crab · 2021-08-20T17:39:57+00:00

This is a good example of how sexism affects both men and woman. Woman are better nurturers = biased custody cases

rahsoft · 2021-08-20T20:02:21+00:00

Interesting that you have now changed the page you linked to after I pointed it out

I appreciate that you have changed it, so it looked like you linked to the wrong page

you originally linked to the liz library which said men were the abusers..

thank you for the corrected links - a useful source of information

Perhaps you should tell everyone here , especially those who downvoted me for pointing out the mistake. especially those who are attacking me with downvotes..again( it makes them look like saddos !)

tacticalslacker · 2021-08-20T22:48:11+00:00

I think she just got treated like the idiot father/male stereotype they portray on TV and she didn’t like it.

Title	My encounter with a feminist co-worker of mine
Author	ImTheTrueFireStarter
Upvotes	679
Comments	155
Date	August 20, 2021 3:20 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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