Unpopular Opinion: Gold Diggers are just smart women

slazengerx · 2023-03-05T20:08:31+00:00

Men only pay bank to have sex with women if the women are way out of their league. Meaning these women are often dating/shagging someone they're not attracted to and/or much older.

These women aren't doing anything smart or stupid they're doing something that the majority of people find extremely unappealing.

CimZim · 2023-03-05T19:24:49+00:00

If you’re a woman and you even so much as have to tie your own shoes in the morning, you suck at playing the game.

Why the holy freaking fuck would I want to play it? Lol. Getting everything handed to you in life sounds pretty horrible...humans need to get things for themselves, we suffer when life is too easy. Not to mention, using other people for money is a shit thing to do, ethically.

Look up the absolute nightmare of the Mouse Utopia experiment.

DXBrigade · 2023-03-05T19:49:07+00:00

>99% of women don’t want anything to do with 99% of men.<

As a woman, I disagree.

Opening_Pattern_301 · 2023-03-05T19:57:58+00:00

men do not hate gold diggers because they are smart, they hate them because well, manipulating peoples emotions especially ones like love in order to gain a monetary gain out of them is not something respectable, why would a guy love a woman who just pretends to like him or love him in order to extract resources of him? like wow you dont even like me or are attracted to me but somehow i have to give you stuff, you still want to extract value out of me?

and well, it is safe to say your view is exactly one of a goldigger, i mean:

how women today are on their backs and pushing out kids for men yet coming up empty handed

you think somebody who brings a life to this difficult world to use it as a bargaining chip is respectable? parents like those destroy their kids mentally, it wouldnt even surprise if most incels have mothers who though exactly like this

No seriously, read your whole post again, why would men love and praise somebody who sees them like that? why would they hold that kind of woman in high regards? a man would have to be a masochist to think that.... or extremely desperate

I think all men are okay with goldiggers as long as they can avoid them like the plague

januaryphilosopher · 2023-03-05T20:53:45+00:00

They aren't playing the game that most women are playing so it makes no sense to compare the two. Sure, they're getting their dating goals of money, but most women go into dating with the goal of finding a partner.

ziriani · 2023-03-05T23:17:03+00:00

Eh. I agree with your comparison: I see them the same way I see men who use women for sex. They’re doing things that benefit themselves and can be technically doing nothing wrong, but they shaft people in the process. Neither are hated because they’re smart, they’re hated because they’re parasitic and use people who probably don’t want to be used.

social_mule · 2023-03-06T04:41:41+00:00

99% of women don’t want anything to do with 99% of men.

This is the stupidest shit I ever heard in my life. A long time ago in a galaxy far far away I said the 80/20 "rule" would get repeated and refined until it became something utterly absurd but because it was done incrementally, like boiling a frog in water, someone would one day post a stupid ass "statistic" pulled straight from their ass and nobody would bat an eye.

Ladies and gentlemen of purple pill debate, that day is today.

80% of women are attracted to 20% of men.

Well, it's actually 90% of women who are attracted to 10% of men.

I'd like to take this opportunity to point out that the 80/20 cultists are completely full of shit because their ratios always conveniently add up to 100%. Isn't that odd? It's perfectly possible for 73% of women to be attracted to 31% of men but since 73 plus 31 doesn't add up to 100 it's not considered. But I digress.

If we're being honest it's actually 95% if women who are attracted to 5% of men

And now today's monstrosity: 99% of women want nothing to do with 99% of men.

Yes, that seems perfectly reasonable. /s

youreloser · 2023-03-05T21:24:15+00:00

So your argument is being predatory is smart? What a sad world view. This sort of thing is only acceptable in order to survive. Greed is the root of evil. If you take a look at the problems we have in this world, they are mostly man made, and caused by someone along the line making a decision to screw the people around them for their own personal gain. Gold digging is exploitation lite, fucking disgusting.

Aside from the ethics, gold digging would deprive me of the satisfaction of having accomplished things myself. Trust me, that feels far better than having someone hand things to you on a platter. But I guess some people derive satisfaction from having tricked someone. To me that's sick. But you do you 🤢

Also, I like men as a gender. I might not fuck the vast majority of them but I do like them.

Some-Web-1213 · 2023-03-06T03:02:34+00:00

Just cut your feet off. Men will happily push the wheelchair around for sex. Men will do anything for sex. It’s so convenient to be pushed around in a wheelchair. Legs create the burden of having to walk everywhere. Why would you want to walk? It’s tiring and difficult. It makes you masculine. Traditional women form China and Korea would deform their feet, so that they can’t walk. Being carried around is smart.

Watch tele novellas and get early onset dementia. Being dumb is delightful. It removes the burden of intelligence that you carry around everywhere you go, if you are cursed with it. Being dumb means you don’t ever have to worry - your man will do everything for you for sex. Being dumb is smart.

You know what’s even better? Being a bacteria. Because you don’t have to do anything. 0 sense of responsibility, 0 experience, no suffering. Being COVID-19 is awesome: fly around and fuck shit up. Not too far from fuckbois and golddiggers. Why are we even born? Life is endless difficulty. Just don’t live one. Fucking checkmate.

Shall I continue describing how stupid your line of logic is, or will you duck off and go sort your brain out, OP? Having everything handed to you for sex isn’t the goal, and using men for their weaknesses isn’t the point.

GrandRub · 2023-03-05T19:35:15+00:00

using peoples weakness and manipulating people for monetary gain isnt "smart"... even if its working.

bison5595 · 2023-03-05T19:48:53+00:00

As I get older, I’ve come to realize there is nothing wrong with gold diggers. You should be able to tell very quickly if a woman is into you or your money

Eric-Ridenour · 2023-03-05T21:29:37+00:00

Gold diggers are smart! They prostitute themselves because they are lazy and have no skills to earn a decent living themselves that makes them extra smart?

Willow-girl · 2023-03-06T01:00:34+00:00

Mama always said it was just as easy to love a rich man ...

FlyV89 · 2023-03-06T18:51:39+00:00

All women are gold diggers, I don't have a problem with it, I have a problem with women doing it through evil means.

My ex-fiancee was a gold digger. She ABSOLUTELY LOVED the fact that I was well off, and she didn't even tried to hide it. She would take my wallet and bust my money on stupid things.

But she was the most loyal, caring, living woman I've met. She quit job, yes, but she asked me first.

Also, shortly after we met, I got fired, and I spent almost two years broke until I found another job. It was a really hard time for me, and she didn't even gasped. She was there for me during all that time, or ask me to buy her this or that, or a new couch, or curtains, or a trio or a kitchen or a damn dogs or her nails.

The woman was expensive, no shit, really high maintenance...

But she took care of me, like no one else, and with her I felt respected and appreciated like I've feel with anyone else.

She made sure I woke up every morning, and she had done the breakfast already. She would go back to sleep or just to her daily crotch-scratching routine as soon as I left, but I never woke up alone.

She would know all my schedule, and she would make sure I was nothing else but "perfect" whenever I was going out, even if I was out just with the guys, because she knew the value of having a social life.

Never, ever, EVER she even MENTIONED another dude, at least in my presence, if not to tell me "look, this guy hits me yo constantly, I rejected him already but he keeps trying and he's making me unconfourtable, you should talk to him". Her phone was clean, and whenever she changed the pass she would let me know the new one. And no, I never had to go through her phone. We had an open phone policy, we would take any phone at any time if we had to do a call or whatever.

She was the most loyal, transparent woman I've EVER met, and by a long long distance. She even told me all things about her past and her N-count un the first weeks of dating, what she was expecting from me and what worked for her.

My money was HER money, and yeah she spent It on stupid shit sometimes, but only on HER stupid shit or MY stupid shit.

She was so stuck on depending my "things" that she even picked up on a fight with a waitress once because she tried to retire my dish because "it was already cold" and my girl was like "WHAT are you doing? He's still eating!!! That's super disrespectful to the customer, you knew that?"

Like, I swear haha, I went back and apologized to the waitress, but hell, my girl was right.

And damn, having someone to your side that it's in all the details, that defends you (and your belongings) from anyone else, is awesome.

Yeah she was ambitious, she wanted to win no matter what... But you know what?

She wanted me to win too. I never felt I wasn't in her plans. She wanted US to win.

She wanted my money, oh absolutely. But she also wanted ME to have money.

She would often come home with "gifts" for me (that I paid for, of course) that I thought were unnecesary and stupid, but damn she always bought something for me, and it felt good.

And when I decided to start a bussines, she was all in for it. She wasn't going to put in any work I mean, but hell she even offered me some of her savings to help me, she always trusted I knew what I was going to do with the money.

And damn she never skipped sex. Sex was just fine. She loved it, I loved it...

But she also loved money. She always pushed me to make more, to invest more, to risk, to try harder...

Honestly, I loved her. She's like the kind of ideal girl, because I love money too.

She also wanted to be a SAHM, shit you not, very traditional minded, very family oriented. I didn't want kids so, that was sad, but I absolutely agree she is a great mother (she has a kid now with another dude, we get along really well still).

So that's my point.

You like men with money? That's fine, no problem.

The thing is, how are you going to get that guy to give you money?

Are you coming up clean, be a nice woman, behave like a true partner, be respectful, caring, loving?

Or are you going to cheat, lie and decieve a dude and gaslight him into thinking you love him when you clearly don't?

I have a problem with the later. The former is just "a traditional marriage".

In a twisted way, what my ex-fiancee told me is that yeah, women want a man that it's better than them, a man they can feel proud of, a man they can flaunt to their friends.

But some women just take any man and make it happen. Of course, they will leech you off after, but first they make you better. And that's something some women are very good at.

These women... They are not doing it for the money. They are doing it just for their egos. They want to feel like they are the princess in a fairy tale, they want to feel beautiful, lusted after, looked after, valued, appreciated.

It's all about status for them.

How do I know?

Because in that time of my life when I was broke, this woman would put money on my pocket to pay the waitress for our dinner. I asked her, kinda jocking, if she was ashamed of going out with a dude who was broke... She then said...

"And I know you're ashamed too, and it's fine. But I'm not letting anyone talk shit about you, so take the money and shut up."

That's when I understood it wasn't about the money, ir was about apprearances. She was a status seeking bitch, and she thought I could give her the status she was looking for, and she wasn't wrong, I did.

But instead of playing against me, she was smart enough to play with me.

She didn't thought I was dumb or a lame ass fucker because she lived rent free and had a nice car I bought.

She respected me for it, and showed her appreciation whenever she could.

She understood what 90% of women can't even fucking grasp.

Gold diggers?

I love gold diggers. Bring me all of them.

But bring me those smart ones who ACTUALLY know how to dig.

I don't need a basic lame ass entitled and treacherous bitch in my life.

I need a woman that helps me make money so we can spend it on whatever shit she wants.

Weird_Slice4439 · 2023-03-05T19:33:06+00:00

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Different_Weekend817 · 2023-03-06T00:18:35+00:00

anyone who can get free money is a smart person, man. if i've learned anything is that money is everything and people are disposable.

KayRay1994 · 2023-03-05T20:26:19+00:00

more clever than smart tbh, but i get what you’re saying. I would also say clever while possibly lacking some morality - like even if the dude she’s gold digging is a dick (which, granted, many are), she is still actively manipulating and using someone at a time when they’re probably vulnerable for her own gain. i also don’t like the “this is the optimal route for a smart woman” tone your post is giving

Swordfromthecement · 2023-03-05T20:38:10+00:00

To reverse the question back to you. Is a man smart for using his resources to gain sex? Am I smart if I say fuck a relationship and just use prostitutes?

Safinated · 2023-03-05T21:58:02+00:00

Please provide proof of your first sentence

MxMaster9907 · 2023-03-06T01:49:54+00:00

Wealthier men are just more valuable. Attractive women are valuable, valuable men and valuable women will be together.

purplish_possum · 2023-03-06T05:13:30+00:00

Sure women can sell themselves if they want. They have freewill and agency. However, choices have consequences. For many guys being or having been a prostitute is an automatic disqualification.

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2023-03-06T05:48:39+00:00

was curious because I don’t believe it takes much skills to be a gold digger. We could say it’s above average though or else every women would be doing it...but I don’t like your chess reference here

First, because men usually play games with other men. Second, because the topic is a lot less wholesome than the chess games I’ve played. You mention f-boys and that sounds about right. It’s toxic. Do you find yourself having bad feelings about this path? It leads only to darkness. It doesn’t feel right, or even true: something is off

So we can tell something is off here. Obviously humans do not get together just because of money and maybe it isn’t even an instinctual force. Back in the caveman days, there was no money...obviously there was no consent either but I digress...the point is I wouldn’t announce a f-boy or female equivalent as a ‘winner’ when they are likely empty inside

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2023-03-06T05:57:21+00:00

I get your point if you are meaning to present this as a redpill concept for a ‘winner’...because redpill tends to work with numbers and pure data but it’s the same thing as looking good on paper. You don’t really know people until you know them for sure

I have tried posting redpill concepts like this and justifying them to myself, explaining them to myself in the post. It has never felt ‘me’ if that makes sense. It never rang true. It was more like “here’s this thing and this is reality” and being mad about it but not Connecting with it. I was able to identify body language and identify patterns but just never able to identify with redpill because it has a dehumanizing aspect. If you asked I would say I was MRA but being redpilled and identifying as redpiller is different imo. I see some truths there but I feel the interpretation and utilization of these tools could be better

BornAgainSpecial · 2023-03-06T09:52:54+00:00

What about cam whores? Are they really smart too, because they know men will throw money at them for existing? I don't think this has anything to do with being smart. It's a privileged position.

2023-03-06T10:50:27+00:00

If your mindset isn’t the personification of evil, I don’t know what is. Weird that there are people walking around out there with this level of coldness to them.

CommunicationNo9896 · 2023-03-06T13:48:56+00:00

It pays well to deal with jobs that are nasty, but that is not being smart.

It is just doing what others don't want to do to get more. It is a tradeoff.

Eric-Ridenour · 2023-03-05T20:16:23+00:00

Men are just mad they can’t use women like this too

throwaway164_3 · 2023-03-05T19:38:18+00:00

Gold diggers are smart women in the same sense that redpillers are smart men.

Weird_Slice4439 · 2023-03-05T20:46:30+00:00

I guess I'm pretty indifferent to it. If most guys were able to pull gold diggers, they'd just call them trophy wives. But, since most guys are middle-class or below, gold diggers are bad. It's just hate and jealousy about something they'll never have.

AwesomeRocky-18- · 2023-03-05T20:36:19+00:00

I don’t think men understand what exchanges women have to make in order to get everything handed to them like having their shoes tied. Constant pestering for sex, picking up extra household responsibilities, potential for abuse, rape, violence, pregnancy, etc. I’d say the truly smart women are the ones who stay away from male partners.

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2023-03-06T09:47:42+00:00

It’s two groups of men. The alphas won’t play the women’s game and get them preggers and leave. The betas are the ones that do the simping.

L0stFeed · 2023-03-06T11:59:53+00:00

Sure, although there are levels to gold diggers intelligence

Some fresh 18 year old gold digger who just gets pumped and dumped by rich old dudes and ends up alone at 30 with cats, crying about where the good men are

Are not nearly smart as a 'gold digger' who marries a high value male, has family with them. Never has to work OR do house chores, since they can afford maids/butlers and just enjoys life.

abaxeron · 2023-03-06T15:53:13+00:00

Gold diggers to men, are what f-boys are to women.

Does it mean that "f-boys" are also "just smart men"? Or are they very much within what we consider real-life villains?

gate18 · 2023-03-06T21:16:03+00:00

99% of women don’t want anything to do with 99% of men.

That's dumb as hell. So there are 99% of lonely men?

Maffioze · 2023-03-07T07:26:25+00:00

Yes let's ignore all the human instincts related to wanting two parent's to actually care for their offspring.

TearsInRain1467 · 2023-03-07T07:29:27+00:00

A 20s woman getting with old millionaires who they won't sleep with in a million years if not for the money are doing something they would be repulsed by if not for money. Just like most prostitutes and even real jobs. Doesn't mean they are all smart.

Ok_Scene_1799 · 2023-03-07T09:25:17+00:00

sell your assets when they are in the highest value, sure, totally perfect economic logic.

The issue is that we aren't just numbers, or money, or value alone like a dollar bill.

we are humans, and that woman will carry a psychological trauma for having sex without feelings, or being an object in a relation, and so on...

plus when your assets are low (old age) in the gold digger best scenario she'll have a lot of money, great, but nobody will give a f about her. while a girl who dedicated her time to find love, and give her self to someone who love her, maybe poorer but happier in the long run.

2023-03-08T15:45:31+00:00

Maybe, maybe not. You need to look at the value the guy sees in the gold digger.

Depending on the income, if I spend say 1k to buy her a bag or outfit as an example. My income with my passive investments I will gain back that 1k very quickly. In her mind, I must value her.

In reality, if I am taking her out to dinner or vacations, I'd still be spending the majority of that money on me anyway. So I am not really investing as much value as they think. It's all disposable income at that point.

To me, it would be bo different in spending disposable income on her that I'd be spending anyway the same as if I walked into a store and bought a pack of gum. It's used up and disposed of.

The gold digger maybe making money off those guys, in the short term, but she isn't retaining any inherent value in or around the relationship. She is replaceable. Once he grows bored, he will find a new girl who is more attractive and likely younger.

Competitive-Flow7236 · 2023-04-03T16:24:29+00:00

Gold diggers are soulless scum, they ride and they ride every man with money till they get what they want. They need concentration camps for all of these gold diggers everywhere. Most of them go to fancy bars so they can look for prince charming.

2023-05-27T00:33:37+00:00

Gold diggers are low IQ because they can't do anything without their body or a man, there is little difference between that and a prostitute. Essentially just a ho, a door mat.

Title	Unpopular Opinion: Gold Diggers are just smart women
Author	MoronicRunner
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Date	March 5, 2023 6:23 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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