The forceful inclusion of women into Male only clubs or groups

randomusername1934 · 2023-07-08T16:18:34+00:00

It's not fair. They know it's not fair. It's a pretty obvious power play, but best of luck getting any of them to admit it.

Normal-Yogurtcloset5 · 2023-07-08T16:49:34+00:00

I was in college when women sued to allow women to enter The Citadel military college. Their argument was that the school received tax dollars so it shouldn’t segregate on the basis of gender. When the women won their court case the feminists on campus were happy.

I attended a state university in NJ that has an all-women’s college. When the feminists celebrated The Citadel victory I started asking when the all-women’s college would start admitting men since, it too, received tax dollars. They quickly began to explain that women needed spaces of their own away from men, safe spaces, and other such nonsense. I always retorted that men also need our own spaces, safe spaces away from women and false accusations, etc. And, shouldn’t equality mean that we don’t have one set of rules for one group and a different set of rules for another? No decent response other than, “It’s different” with no explanation as to how it was “different”.

After awhile, they stopped wanting to have the conversation because of the cognitive dissonance it caused.

chiboulevards · 2023-07-08T16:16:57+00:00

My dad and grandfather both went to The Citadel for college in Charleston, S.C. I remember when they permitted the first woman to enroll in the 90s, and it was a very big deal at the time, culturally speaking. I remember asking my dad about it and why wouldn't they allow women in that school and he essentially said that it was basically the last all-men school left. There are plenty of all-women colleges and prep schools still, so why can't men have just one? It is wild to think about how there are just no more men-only colleges or higher education institutions.

neighborhoodpainter · 2023-07-08T17:58:34+00:00

Men's groups being called misogynistic or shut down is because feminists believe men do and say bad things about women. I've read articles and comments from feminists complaining about locker-room talk, men in their groups shit talking women, etc. Even if this does happen on occasion, I've read stories of women's "locker-room" talk too, where they shit talk men. But hey, it's only okay to shine a light on the bad mouthing men.

New_Engineering3987 · 2023-07-08T19:33:18+00:00

I joined a men’s club and meant for men to talk about issues affecting men, turns out it’s ran by a feminist woman who shut down every point we made until all 6 of us stopped going

BrokeMacMountain · 2023-07-08T19:22:55+00:00

There was an article a few years ago about a female farmer in the UK who claimed her career was being held back because she was excluded from a male only farmers club.

This club had only 100 members, and was a support group of men. There were similar groupd for women. This woman did not mention that, not did she mentuon she was some executive of the uk biggest farming union with over 100,000 members.

She lied through her teeth to try and destroy this safe space for men, purely because, they were men.

And that is jus tone example. Other ckubs for men, especially support groups like the men i sheds group has bee n infiltrated by women.

Feminism is insidious in its divisive hateful rhetoric.

KrazyJazz · 2023-07-08T17:06:59+00:00

Well. Looks like the strong-and-independent are not exactly in a rush to enter some male dominated "groups" like sewers, garbage disposal, oil rigs or mining workers. I wonder why?

Sendmeloveletters · 2023-07-08T16:57:16+00:00

I tried to join a girl’s sport team in HS in the 90s. I was told no. I mentioned that girls joined boys teams. He gave me 50 years of wisdom in a glance right then.

Njaulv · 2023-07-08T20:48:35+00:00

In their minds men only get together with other men in places like this to hate on women, and women only get together in places like this to protect themselves from men. Delusional thinking and projection. The thing is though, women have an in group bias and men have an out group bias.

AdComprehensive1312 · 2023-07-08T21:06:09+00:00

I would love to find an all male gym but they just dont exist. I really hate being there with a bunch of thirsty women looking for validation from simps. They wear almost nothing and stare at themselves in the mirror for 30min while lifting 5lb weights.

Lolocraft1 · 2023-07-08T16:41:03+00:00

I’ll accept it if men get to be included in women only organization

KochiraJin · 2023-07-09T02:46:48+00:00

The real danger is in the phenomenon of male-bonding, that commitment of groups of men to each other whether in an army, a gang, a service club, a lodge, a monastic order, a corporation, or a competitive sport. That tightly woven power structure actually defines patriarchal society

-Sally Miller Gearhart. The Future, if there is one, is Female

Basically men helping and supporting each other in their own groups is the patriarchy. From which all evil originates. That's why the quote is from a section advocating reducing the male population down to 10% of it's current level.

BowtiepastaMasta · 2023-07-08T18:45:11+00:00

Also, the addition of them into men’s sports broadcasting. Kinda silly if you ask me. Especially when they’re not the color commentary and former athletes themselves. Huge difference between male and female competition that it doesn’t make sense to comment on it when the experiences are so varied.

Space_Exploring7_6 · 2023-07-08T22:06:07+00:00

Haven't you noticed they haven't matured since kindergarten?

Don't you guys remember girls always wanting to play with boys, out of pure envy, and getting adults involved by playing the victim if they refused, just to end up taking over and making boys do something totally different, and adapting the "event" to them and only them?

Seriously?

Morden013 · 2023-07-08T21:12:58+00:00

Only women conferences, only women companies, resorts...etc.

They simply want to have eyes and ears everywhere, but don't offer the same to men.

No surprise there.

WareGaKaminari · 2023-07-08T21:23:12+00:00

Because they don't want their things. They just want to take away ours.

Mycroft033 · 2023-07-09T02:12:01+00:00

Oh and don’t forget that when they join, they change the spaces to fit their ideologies.

Felarhin · 2023-07-08T17:08:51+00:00

The trick is to act so inappropriately that women don't want to be there.

LIGHTDX · 2023-07-08T22:53:18+00:00

They want to feel better about themselves, but they are nobody, so they are karen who tries to do something that looks agains "discrimination"

.hey don't want men to go into women spaces, such as women clubs and train vagons (In mexico) but they think they can get into male spaces just to feel beter about themselves.

RennietheAquarian · 2023-07-09T04:01:22+00:00

Men have to toughen up and learn to say no. It’s ok if their feelings are hurt, they don’t belong in our spaces. The silence of men, is why this continues.

danielnogo · 2023-07-08T22:28:07+00:00

Because male spaces are funner, better, and lacking alot of the drama and politics that many female spaces suffer from.

Acousmetre78 · 2023-07-08T21:44:41+00:00

How are men supposed to ever talk about mens issues when it always has to be filtered by female approval. For example my friends mom had no idea what nocturnal emissions are and she got angry at her son when he was trying to talk about it. Men do have a unique experience in the world that women can’t always understand. It just leads to conflict and shame.

t-D7 · 2023-07-08T16:24:30+00:00

true true

AmuseDeath · 2023-07-08T23:08:10+00:00

Because honestly men today are a sad lot. They do things like join feminist movements meanwhile their brothers are dying from suicide, workplace fatalities or becoming homeless. They are so eager to serve women even though women treat them as disposable wallets and as a placeholder.

Men need to wake up, look at the numbers and look at how bad things have become.

Don't put up with bad women just because they are women. Have a backbone and say no to abusive and exploitative women. Don't become a sad pansy just because you feel lonely. Get invested in something and do your best. Lift.

espositojoe · 2023-07-09T03:28:39+00:00

I think any woman who does that simply hates men. Hence the reason for all-male clubs.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2023-07-09T08:35:45+00:00

Well, there is everywhere a girl's night. Never seen a guys/gentleman's night. So been going on for a wail that girls have to be included. But on their side the can excuse at the same time.

When I was young there were boy scouting and girl scouting groups. The used to be different groups. Cause guys liked to be more in nature and more dirty rough side off being in scouting groups.

Women scouting walked more in the forest did not get dirty and more explained about each plant and more informative. And where a lot more crafts aimed.

When the pushed both together. A lot of scouting groups just died. Cause the where forced to do so much of the time things the just hated doing. The girls would bitch and moan when the got dirty and cause the cried and had a tantrums the next time guys even less like likely to do the things the like doing. Cause the are not so vocal when the dont like it so the just suck it up. Till obviously the just quiet cause not even 20% of the time you're doing the thing you like. Sadly i was one of those people that just was like i dont get what i want out off this anymore and quit it.

But same thing is happening in a lot of places gay bar. Being invaded by women. Being annoyed when the not seen as attractive cause your surround by gay men.

Often just changing spaces to something it was never meant to be. By forcing them self in it whining till the get there way. And then the core group it was ment for often just choosing to walk away cause there not getting out what thy came for in the first place. And it happens in many many places just seen those happen the most my self cause for a long time the where the more men safe spaces. Even if you are not gay.

MezzaCorux · 2023-07-08T20:44:13+00:00

I'm fine with men and women having their own spaces so long as it's kept that way. Men don't need to be in women's only spaces and women don't need to be in men's only spaces.

Frird2008 · 2023-07-08T17:56:28+00:00

If it's a [insert demographics here] only group, [insert demographics not in allowed demographics list here] aren't entitled to a place in the group.

Futureman999 · 2023-07-08T22:40:50+00:00

I've wondered if co-ed social clubs are even safe anymore, if you're not looking to hook up, just searching for a social outlet.

I'll tell you why. A few years ago I was in a social club that happened to have a lot of older divorcees and widows who were a little cougary. Cougars are all very "ha ha" in the movies, but you can run into some "bad luck" and bad vibes in a social club if you choose not to hook up with a lady who looks like your mom, or even your grandma.

I guess I've kept fit compared to most guys my age, and I have a little money so the tension was rising. I left and haven't gone back. I learned what it's like to be a skinny 20 year old girl in a club with a lot of single 40 year old men in it. At first the attention is sort of nice especially for a man - since women don't value us as much, but those women expect you to pick one or more of them eventually. One of them straight up asked me: "Why aren't you dating all of us?"

ContributionExtra735 · 2023-07-08T16:24:12+00:00

Yep. This is something i absolutely DESPISE, basically thwy have to inject themselves into absolutely EVERYTHING, men cant even tell stories of there own history without the masculine whamen who is better than everyone and it has to now be all about her. Urgh. Im so sick of it.

Ill give u an example, red dead redemption 2, the story was ruined by sady stupid adler. She was the most annoying, cringe worthy character EVER. I HATE HER WITH A PASSION. Thats just one small example, this is everywhere now. Ruins it. Obviously not just gaming. EVERYTHING GETS ruined by the insecurities of whamen. Rockstar are definitely going woke. A female gta character is cringe to me too. I seen the leaks, she running around in short skirt and high heels pulling full grown men out if cars, complete fantasy in a game supposedly about realism. Its cringe personified.

Im ok with strong female characters, some are my favourite, but when its done rite. Not when its on my terms, when its on realitys terms. Men actually do alot of the shit you do in gta, sure its a little over the top, of course, its a game.

Also alot of developers have had creative freedom removed when it comes to female characters, they all have to be strong and independent, walk, talk and act like men if theres a whamen with a slight flaw, its waaaaaaah, how whamen are portrayed in gaming. Imagine thinking youre so important, how a whamen is portrayed in a game is a personal insult to youre over inflated ego. Usually they detest when whamen are portrayed REALISTICALLY btw, they hate that more than anything.

Yeah this ones close to my heart too. Its hobby i love and its being ruined by the insecurities if whamen. And there inferiority complex.

CabbieCam · 2023-07-08T20:48:01+00:00

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gag_the58 · 2023-07-09T00:13:02+00:00

Sports are still separated (kinda)

Kind_Marzipan_1658 · 2023-07-09T04:52:42+00:00

If the shoe was on the other foot and men tried to join a women only group there would be an outcry from the women and feminists

Huffers1010 · 2023-07-09T10:15:09+00:00

In the town where I live there are two well-respected selective schools, both segregated by gender - one for girls, one for boys. The boys's school has been taking girls for decades; the girls school has never taken boys.

Obviously, it's a hypocritical double standard and is unfair. Both these schools are highly desirable ways to get a very good, government-funded education for your kids and entry is very competitive. Girls are getting preferential access to that, even as the statistics show boys doing worse at school. More than a few people will take a triumphant attitude to that and treat it as revenge. I would point out that anyone doing that is taking their petty frustrations out on a bunch of eleven-year-old boys, which is pretty pathetic.

In a wider sense I don't actually think segregation of that sort is really a very good or necessary idea in almost any circumstances; certainly when I attended the boys' school, having tested in from a non-segregated place, I thought that the young men there were possibly a bit infantilised and lacking in certain aspects of socialisation. Absent very specific circumstances, gender segregation is not something we should be pursuing. The world contains men and women (and, sure, a very small number of people for whom the best answer is probably "it's complicated") and we need to get along.

vaindioux · 2023-07-09T11:41:09+00:00

I am starting a man only club “Pouring hot tar on road in 90 degree weather”.

I think few ladies will bother us 😁

Nate848 · 2023-07-08T23:52:55+00:00

We have this issue at the gym I go to. I absolutely love the gym, but for some reason, the women’s changing room is basically a whole lounge, but the men’s changing room is a storage and laundry closet.

justicedragon101 · 2023-07-08T18:42:18+00:00

Not sure how this sub will respond, but I like the way BSA did it. BSA is a amazing program that everyone should be able ro join, but having separate boy and girl troops still allows for safe spaces

espositojoe · 2023-07-09T03:30:25+00:00

Does anyone know if this week's SCOTUS ruling on college admissions applies to gender as well as race?

galacticakagi · 2023-07-09T11:44:16+00:00

It’s annoying if they are going to demand exclusive spaces yeah. Personally, I don’t think anything should be exclusive though, but I can understand why others would feel differently.

SwordfishMiserable78 · 2023-07-09T14:53:51+00:00

I drive by the Girls Club often and am reminded that The Boys Club became the Boys AND Girls Club. Very unfair to little boys just wanting to be boys. I know as a boy I didn’t want to socialize with girls. Now that’s considered antisocial or something. So the feminazis have destroyed boys schools, ignoring the possibility that many young men find the presence of young women in the educational setting, starting in middle school, is a major distraction (temptation, what have you).

Significant-Comb-180 · 2023-07-09T15:57:54+00:00

Not supposed to be fair, they want to control every aspect of manhood in order to exploit us without taking risk! We are notting more than cannon ball to radfem

That_Permission5911 · 2023-07-12T05:32:20+00:00

Scholarships. gotta take them away from hardworking men. Force them out of college. men get scholarships from the military and from sports. coincidentally, women are attacking the military, attacking sports, and attacking the men in them. Its all about the money. Dont let men have chances.

Daytona_675 · 2023-07-09T00:26:14+00:00

I hear some Mason lodges let women in now lol

SuspiciousGrievances · 2023-07-09T07:47:18+00:00

That's why I started the r/ SuperSecretMensClub for men. We move our meeting places around so they can't find us. We leak false meeting places to piss off the zealots who would deny us such a simple thing as our own spaces. We have secrets the girls can never know.

Jammapanda · 2023-07-09T01:10:42+00:00

it's not fair. it can be compared to way back during the civil rights movement when black individuals were unfortunately segregated from whites people. no one thinks that was cool or okay, and this is essentially the same concept and roots from the same egotistical, narcissistic, and self righteous ideologies.

dollarBillz007 · 2023-07-09T04:14:27+00:00

I got included in girls night one time when I was younger and it turned into a foursome maybe that’s why idk

Sudden-Distance133 · 2023-07-08T18:31:10+00:00

I'm curious to know your opinion - do you feel this applies to trans men?

Harvey_Fishev · 2023-07-09T07:42:10+00:00

Who said it is fair? There's only one problem men like u need to solve, to accept the fact that females aren't good people in any regard and that their only mission in life is to harm men and men's community in all possible ways, then things get back to place in your and others life. But until then, enjoy these "confusing" feelings and thoughts of "not understanding" caused by forced repression.

coreblimeyy · 2023-07-09T07:03:46+00:00

Be a doll and break down a list of mens clubs alongside the women equivalent of those clubs

SwordfishMiserable78 · 2023-07-09T14:53:45+00:00

I drive by the Girls Club often and am reminded that The Boys Club became the Boys AND Girls Club. Very unfair to little boys just wanting to be boys. I know as a boy I didn’t want to socialize with girls. Now that’s considered antisocial or something?

fukyoblock2 · 2023-07-08T17:18:53+00:00

Morehouse and Wabash college are all male…

Jean_o_tails · 2023-07-09T03:16:44+00:00

What, exactly, do you want all to yourself? I guarantee that I, a man, would irritate you in your boy's club far more than any woman.

ScalyPig · 2023-07-08T16:56:48+00:00

Example of something? I can’t think of any examples in my own life where women being included is causing problems, so I’m just wondering what yall experience. Like in locker rooms? Or friends groups? Clubs? Legitimately asking

bluehorserunning · 2023-07-08T18:58:46+00:00

Because men used exclusive clubs to hoard power and wealth. Fuck around and find out.

OkPresentation8217 · 2023-07-10T04:33:50+00:00

They either believe that men are uncivilized brutes who need to be taught and can't solve their problems on their own and the other ones don't believe that men deserve a space.

No-Yoghurt-9289 · 2023-07-14T02:58:12+00:00

I want a big ass for hard fu close 🔥🔥🔥

Title	The forceful inclusion of women into Male only clubs or groups
Author	-Blueberry-1
Upvotes	921
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Date	July 8, 2023 3:50 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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