I coach a girls and boys basketball team, this year something odd happened

Maxwell1138 · 2023-09-03T05:24:07+00:00

This is an extremely important post. These are the kind of 'on the front line' observations that ten years from now people will remember as 'the first warning signs'. We all need to step up and take a look at the young generation and help them.

ERiC_693 · 2023-09-03T05:37:54+00:00

This reminds me Dr. Richard Reeves' TED talk about boys in education a few months back. 25% of boys are drugged with stimulants. He said its more the system is broken rather than boys being broken. Schools see boys as defective girls and drug them to correct for their maleness.

I think its likely due to an over usage of behavioural modification drugs and it is deeply concerning.

omegaphallic · 2023-09-03T11:57:13+00:00

Omfg I can so relate to this, I was misdiagnosed as ADHD despite never having been hyper a single day in life, not even as a kid. They put me on Ritalin and I became an emotion disaster crying all the time. I went off the Ritalin and it stopped. Later I went on Prozac, liked it too much and decided to stop on my own.

I don't have ADHD, these drug dealers posing as fucking doctors are tools and need to be stopped. Meducal drugs need to be better regulated.

Inevitable-Fruit19 · 2023-09-03T06:56:15+00:00

Google Christina Hoff Sommers and watch her videos about the war on boys

TheCityExperience · 2023-09-03T08:25:34+00:00

"girls are more intelligent/calm than boys"

No, they are more SUBMISSIVE to authority, it's not the same.

They seems easier because they actually listen to their parents.

But if the authority figure ask them to do something wrong to you, they'll do it too ; and only boys might help you.

Back to the topic, it's infuriating really. We are NOT the same, stop with that BS

And after that their mothers will cry when their boy becomes a incel or a deconstructed cuck

lu5ty · 2023-09-03T06:44:40+00:00

Children more and more are seen as an accessory. Similar to a small dog or a cat; something that they can engage with so that others' will engage with them because of it. This makes a lot of sense since most people have few social skills and are reticent to be the one to initiate or approach. In such a world these accessories smooth the gap to actual human interaction and are therefore valuable in a very real sense. Lamborghini owners wanna talk to other Lamborghini owners, not the guy who has a Camery.

In a society that propagates knowledge and respects the outcomes of scientific endeavors will, in the future, condemn the way we treat young boys with drugs under the guise of helping them.

I say, to help them do what exactly?

Sit in a classroom and listen to lectures when they would rather explore? Because they would rather be outside discovering themselves, others, and nature all at once while still expanding their minds? Because they like to roughhouse with other boys and that interrupts your lessons?

Boys are given Ritalin and Adderall (and more!) almost as if it were candy because they CANNOT BIOLOGOICALLY conform to arbitrary standards of Christian (any orthodoxy), feminem, piousness, silence, and obedience in the classroom. Sit there and be still or you're gonna get the cane!

edit* I also believe that this is an extremely important post because it's highlighting a terrible truth from someone who experiences it all the time. Thank you OP for posting.

Embarrassed_Curve769 · 2023-09-03T05:09:24+00:00

It's an outcome of "feminist" upbringing. In the demented minds of today's parents, mothers especially, boys are supposed to act the same as girls. So they are not supposed to be rambunctious and hard to control. But of course this is exactly how healthy boys behave as they are not the same as girls, who are generally far more submissive to parental authority.

The feminist solution is to resort to drugs and to medicate "toxic masculinity" out of boys. The fact that it causes untold emotional damage to those kids is considered a small price to pay.

ElectroFlannelGore · 2023-09-03T05:10:36+00:00

These are 6-8 year old boys. They don't have exams or homework. And they're getting drugged.

Yup.

none of the girls are on any forms of medication that relates to this.

And there it is.

That's the message. It's not ok to be a boy/man.

We must drug it out of them.

That's the message we give boys. Or it's the opposite end from insane people like Andrew Tate.

It's dangerous to be male nowadays.

Huffers1010 · 2023-09-03T10:44:19+00:00

I coach... girls

Brave.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2023-09-03T08:32:14+00:00

"When I looked at the medical sheets of 1st and 2nd grade boys. Many of them were on ADHD/ADD medication."

This is a travesty, a crime against boys. I am sure in the future medicating children in such a way will be considered barbaric.

simo402 · 2023-09-03T10:35:39+00:00

This american bs disgusts me, because it will get imported here in europe, sooner or later

chartporn · 2023-09-03T09:37:10+00:00

Are the ones on ADHD meds the ones crying?

randonumero · 2023-09-03T14:16:20+00:00

This is going to sound out of left field but my advice is to see if any child therapists in your area will meet with you. I'm 40, my kid is 8 and I can say that parenting as well as kids today are different from when I was young. One huge difference is covid. My daughter missed out on in person kindergarten and had a very restricted in person first grade. That combined with her mom not allowing her to go to preschool meant a huge lack of socialization which includes learning to lose, be told no, share, not be shared with...The harsh reality is that many parents want to be different from their parents and it's led to some messed up behavior in kids. Many parents are also overwhelmed and use unhealthy crutches like tv, tablets, having the kids parent each other...

The biggest things she missed out on from no preschool and virtual kindergarten were learning to better regulate emotions. This is something I've gotten zero support from her mom on but frankly we don't learn how to handle anger, resentment...in a vacuum. Our natural responses to those emotions are extremely anti-social but as kids we learn not to hit, cry, throw tantrums...Doesn't matter if we learn by spankings, time out, the examples of our parents...we learn and I've noticed that a lot of kids struggle because their parents don't model good regulation nor do they try to help them learn other ways. So many kids (my own included) get a screen shoved in their face when really they just need to talk or be diverted to something positive.

I hope that you continue to coach because that might be some of the only social time some of those kids get. Since they're young and the league is casual, maybe consider spending some time in practice doing something other than basketball like just asking a random question and having each kid answer it or picking a secret word that if someone says it everyone has to bark 3 times.

The research is out but a lot of the screentime from a young age is potentially a huge driver in adhd in children. Many also have mild cases that can be corrected socially but their parents opt for medicine or more testing.

Reasonable_Listen514 · 2023-09-03T06:48:20+00:00

How many of your boys are being raised by single moms?

MezzaCorux · 2023-09-03T13:14:34+00:00

I hate the fact that medicating children has become so normalized. No kid should be taking any kind of mind altering medication unless they have severe problems, like can't function in daily life kind of severe. Absolute insanity.

ThirdCrew · 2023-09-03T12:11:53+00:00

Would be interesting to see a mass study of kids being on medication early vs those that aren't and how they are reacting.

GT121950 · 2023-09-03T12:56:09+00:00

when i was still on my adhd meds i was never happy always angry and wanted to hurt myself. all because of my grades

now im off them im averaging 86% in my tests.

all of that struggle for nothing

Calerid · 2023-09-03T16:12:16+00:00

No bro. The 90s was the push to start drugging kids. That's when diagnosis like ADHD became fads. Every kid needed therapy and drugs to fix them. The parents drugging themselves and the kids is the new norm. Now everyone is broken and fucked.

damageddude · 2023-09-03T16:13:51+00:00

My now almost 23 year old son was on the spectrum at that age (might have still been undiagnosed). I dont think it ever came up but my wife and i refused to medicate. Unfortunately he inherited my youthful sporting skills but as an adult discovered he also inherited his grandfather's marathon skills.

Therapy etc to help him learn socialization skills etc.was the way we went. We wanted him to become who he was meant to be. He became an engineer so his natural temperment works well there

Top-Bumblebee8411 · 2023-09-03T07:14:21+00:00

I ask again. Is getting our boys to. E more emotional good for them? I do t know the answer but it makes me wonder if asking t them to be more emotional is making them less happy?

kevintheredneck · 2023-09-03T13:56:26+00:00

My kids are grown. But this shit started in the 90’s. Hell an old girlfriend of mine, her little brother was diagnosed with adhd, they put him on Ritalin. I didn’t recognize pictures of him. He was a chubby boy in the picture, but with all the Ritalin, he was skinny as a rail. My boys where diagnosed with ADD, and ADHD. The school and the doctor wanted those boys doped up. My wife and I told them to suck it. We didn’t dope those boys up. They went outside and got into shit like I did. Our friends have a regular boy. Hipper active and all. They dope this poor kid up. I’ve told them let the boy be normal.

ambeldit · 2023-09-03T06:36:52+00:00

May be those boys are upbringed by single mothers?

dyselxiccarrot · 2023-09-03T16:49:11+00:00

This is a very very interesting post and I’m glad you posted it. Personally, I honestly hate the diagnosing of ADHD/ADD and how often it is over diagnosed. I’m not a mental health professional, but if you look at the DSM-5 Criteria For ADHD it doesn’t take a genius to see it’s ridiculous.

First off, symptoms need to be present for only 6 months… Imagine taking a kid out of kindergarten, where he played the whole time and only for half a day, and then throw him into a full time school schedule. Of course there’s going to be a learning curve, the kids have never had to sit still for 8 hours at a time before.

Secondly go look at the symptoms that need to be met. I am not saying ADHD isn’t real, but literally any parent who is annoyed that their 1st/2nd grader has a lot of energy… because they’re a child, can go and describe those symptoms. In fact, if a child doesn’t have those symptoms some people will actually get worried they are depressed or abused at home. It’s a guide to turn happy, energized kids into robots. Every guy I went to elementary school with would’ve been diagnosed with ADHD, including myself, had it been as popular as it is now.

And last but not least, they’re giving some of these kids adderall. Fucking adderall. An amphetamine. They’re microdosing these children with a derivative of fucking meth.

Then lock all these boys up for 2 years with COVID and tell them they couldn’t go out and play, or see their friends, or do… anything for 2 huge years of their developmental life. Of course they’re going to be off the walls, they need something to do. You know what my parents did when I always had way to much energy? They said go play outside, and I did. I never got diagnosed with ADHD because I was simply out there developing like a child that age should.

I could speak with you about this for hours

Edit: I guess my point of this is I think the popularity of ADHD and mental health has had a detrimental impact on children this age. For the most part, education of mental health is tremendous for society. However, it has caused a huge wave of hyperchondriacal parents who automatically assume something is wrong with their child when they are simply being a child. It took me 20 seconds to find the DSM-5 criteria for ADHD; any parent can search “ADHD” criteria, find that page, and say “oh no, little Jimmy must have ADHD”, then repeat the DSM-5 criteria to their doctor to get their child medicated.

Oz70NYC · 2023-09-03T22:26:41+00:00

I feel like the 90s was all about parents being drugged up and not paying attention to their kids. Now it's parents drugging up their kids so they don't have to pay attention to them.

This might be the most poignant statement I've ever read on Reddit...and it saddens AND disgusts me that it needed to be said.

camk16 · 2023-09-03T15:16:27+00:00

Wait what is leading you to believe they’re feeding their kids weed lol wtf

TheAndredal · 2023-09-03T09:37:11+00:00

That's insane... Drugging your child...

saito200 · 2023-09-03T14:58:09+00:00

What kind of demented parent drugs their 6 year old with ADHD and marihuana? Americans, can you just stop with this ridiculous shit?

Ok_Psychology_9261 · 2023-09-03T12:26:07+00:00

I was with you until you said they were dosing them with medical marijuana, weed doesn't make you random cry, it makes you random sleep and eat

hwjk1997 · 2023-09-03T18:22:11+00:00

Men and boys are treated as malfunctioning women. Parents refuse to believe boys have different needs than girls, so they just medicate them as much as they can so they don't have to give them attention.

VenusianPriestessE · 2023-09-03T20:03:02+00:00

Could someone please explain to me the workings of attempting to stop boys from being boys? Is the concept that the ADHD medication lowers their natural energy levels? Just confused because as a girl me and my girlfriends played rough and had tons of energy, climbed trees, played sports etc. don’t understand this

Away_Entrance1185 · 2023-09-03T20:17:59+00:00

The "boys are getting medicated out of their normal boyish behaviours" thing is already 40 years old and it's getting worse every year. The pharmaceutical companies know that people would defend their girls if they would feel negative side effects from medication so they do it with boys. We have to stand up against this.

Here's what I advise:

Great chat groups with other sports coaches, find out how many have also noticed this and for how long.

Get in touch with the parents and tell them that you're worried about their sons' mental health, tell them what you see and ask if they also notice anything odd about their behaviours. As an experienced educator they will likely trust your professional observations.

Get in contact with the National Coalition for Men, A Voice for Men, and other Men's Rights organisations and try to start a class action lawsuit.

Find out who is medicating those boys and bring them to court. Start this lawsuit with every organisation in the Manosphere willing to put their name to it and get as many written testimonies of parents and educators you can get.

Then start a media storm, approach every newspaper that wants to, if you're personally involved in the court case get someone else (preferably a parent or another teacher) to get involved in the media storm, this will give a relatable human face to the story.

If this blows up it can bring attention to the plight of boys in general and it could work as a preventative measure against future abuse of boys by an uncaring system. Make sure that you have as many parental and teacher testimonies as possible, get signatures, and please contact your political representatives.

silent_boo · 2023-09-04T02:24:41+00:00

I'm not sure why you're looking for an alternate explanation for it when you're staring right at the answer. ADHD and ADD prescription meds have psychosis and extreme mood swings as the side effects. If you mess around with the dosage enough, which is likely with a kid, you can get hallucinations too. These drugs are strong enough to drastically rewire your brain over time.

There's clearly a lot of demonization of things that normal boys do. Its quite obvious that if you treat them with stimulants and psychoactive drugs they will react badly to any stress. In such cases marijuana would, ironically, sedate them and hide the symptoms of their prescription medication.

queenAlexislexis · 2023-09-03T08:44:27+00:00

Those poor boys don’t even know what’s going on

LunaRedFox · 2023-09-03T10:23:02+00:00

As someone who worked in the medical Marijuana field the minor cardholders usually had autism or some other severe health issue where parents didn't want to use pharmaceuticals. But hey who's to say there aren't parents out there slipping their kids an indica oil because melatonin isn't working.... Now with that being said let's take a look at what covid shut down. Covid shut down a lot of activity centers and playgrounds. Naturally boys need more exercise to be exhausted that girls do. Check out this interesting link:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/640879444546248?s=yWDuG2&fs=e&mibextid=Nif5oz

Asatmaya · 2023-09-03T13:35:27+00:00

It's the ADHD medication being used on kids who don't have ADHD.

I feel like the 90s was all about parents being drugged up and not paying attention to their kids. Now it's parents drugging up their kids so they don't have to pay attention to them.

No, this was starting back in the 90s, it's just becoming widespread.

Foreign-Cookie-2871 · 2023-09-03T10:59:01+00:00

Covid has been found to worsen symptoms of ADHD. I wonder if that's part of the problem.

omnicidial · 2023-09-03T13:06:12+00:00

There's a whole leap in logic happening here where you're assuming dosing someone on Marijuana makes them cry and whine and I'm gonna need to see your evidence of that, reefer madness.

Acousmetre78 · 2023-09-03T12:34:46+00:00

This happened to my nephew. They decided to get him off the drugs. His father was briefly addicted to stimulants before the child was born so I was worried about addiction in their family too. They give kids amphetamines.

2manyTechnics · 2023-09-03T21:14:33+00:00

Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support your claim? Random crying fits are not a symptom of medical marijuana. Perhaps it’s just the adhd meds.

LadyKnight151 · 2023-09-03T13:24:51+00:00

Kids are already pretty terrible at emotional regulation. Add in ADHD on top of that and it's even worse. The meds are supposed to help them regulate their emotions. I'm an English teacher and I also have ADHD, so i deal with this on a daily basis.

I can tell you from personal experience that it's a whole lot harder to deal with kids that have untreated ADHD and the kids suffer too. It's not fun to suddenly lose control because you're hungry, tired, the kid sitting behind you is breathing too loud, the tag on the back of your shirt is bugging you, and the lights in the classroom are too bright. At that age, they have no other way to deal with sensory overload but to cry

RobertoFragoso · 2023-09-03T20:22:43+00:00

Children are being over diagnosed with mental conditions like ADHD in order to keep selling drugs for those conditions, which makes them eternal patients dependent on drugs

kimjongspoon100 · 2023-09-04T00:41:30+00:00

Honestly boys are less developed emotionally and do so much more slowly than women. As such school and other activities outpace them. Men are being left behind or drugged into compliance - its a sad reality.

lifeiscooliguess · 2023-09-03T05:34:00+00:00

Your grand theory is that it's medical marijuana? Really, did you get your latest information from an old reefer madness tape or something? If they were on dope they would just be hungry and lazy, not having crying fits

Perfect_Sir4820 · 2023-09-03T11:45:10+00:00

Wtf does medical marijuana have to do with any of this? What a ridiculous conspiracy theory bullshit take. Maybe they're all having their adrenochrome harvested too?!?! 🤡

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-09-03T16:10:32+00:00

So glad you've decided to post this. This is horrifying. Little kids should NOT be on ANY drugs, unless they have a serious disease (and in which case would most likely not be in sports classes). This is horrible news. These young men are having their gender vilified, their natural exuberance drugged down, what next? Is this a feminist plot to destroy all men? Probably not. Does this fit into the "toxic masculinity" narrative that feminists have been pushing for years now? Yes it certainly does.

WTF are we going to do about it? I wish I knew...

Hedhunta · 2023-09-03T11:35:33+00:00

You're not a doctor and are drawing insane conclusions based on basically nothing? I have both a son and a daughter and both of their practices are kids running around like a chicken with their head cut off at that age. Stop trying to make kids victims and please stay out of their business because you have no idea whats going on in those kids lives and if you get it wrong you could do serious damage to that family because you think for some dumb ass reason you are qualified to diagnose a bunch of rowdy children based on their behavior for one or two hours a week? Fuck off.

Normal_Machine4548 · 2023-09-03T05:17:14+00:00

It's all OK.... their now putting pyramids on thc choclate so kids know lol and roflmfao don't eat it ..... I totally agree .... before thc it was lemonade and beer ... but thc these days is next level

Dull_Cockroach_6920 · 2023-09-03T16:57:01+00:00

I took adhd meds when I was a lot younger cant really remember how old 7-12 maybe. As an adult when I started college again I decided to go back on meds, this spiraled into an 8 month adderall binge where at points I had suicidal Ideations. amphetamines are not for children, only because I'd messed around with other substances had I realized that it was the adderall comedown that was messing up my life and my marriage. thankfully I've been off close to a year now and feel a lot better.

I hope this doesn't sound bad, a lot of dads need to get more involved with their boys. and they need to show them how to deal with problems that they face. women need to realize that boys will not sit still, I'm 27 and still don't show up to lectures if I feel as though the proffessor is doing a shit job of teaching.

get your kids of meds people

k3rr1g4n · 2023-09-03T17:02:38+00:00

I referee youth sports for over 15 years (Started as a ref at 13 and continued on through college and now after) and I was placed on ADHD meds as a kid in the 90s and tbh can't say I've seen kids crying like this out of nowhere unless they have other problems at home. Not to say that it isn't a possibility but that just isn't my experience where I live at the moment.

eazygiezy · 2023-09-03T17:17:13+00:00

I got an ADD diagnosis when I was around 10 or 11 and got put on several medications, all of which are basically meth. They had me so wired that I couldn’t sleep and ended up being a fucking child on an upper-downer cycle. Those drugs fucked me, and I think I’m still dealing with the consequences almost 20 years later

crash4tactics · 2023-09-03T18:15:47+00:00

Not only have play areas been literally built out of existence in many places, it's also been ousted by electronics. Play is ESSENTIAL to good development. Mix that with the push to medicate and well...

Ashley_Titor · 2023-09-03T20:48:38+00:00

This started years ago,think early 2000s, it just wasn't wide spread enough

Originally a lot of people where misdiagnosed as autistic, and where put into special education for it, as same thing for ADHD and add, a lot of people where misdiagnosed and given stimulant drugs when they didn't need it, unfortunately yoo many people are in support of diagnosis and giving out drugs for those diagnosis that those who say "hay I think their is a problem, I don't think this person is autistic and I think they shouldn't be on this medication" get ignored

Bet yeah I'd probably argue that those drugs are just making those kids a bit more fucked up, and sadly the side affects of the drugs will be used to justify more diagnosis and more medications instead of checking to see if the current medication is causing it

Godi22kam · 2023-09-03T22:23:59+00:00

mcc9999 · 2023-09-04T00:20:25+00:00

It may indeed be the effects of ADD meds on the boys. Some boys may have though a comorbid condition that makes them more emotionally labile than is typical, such as non-verbal learning disorder (NVLD) which is often considered an autism-spectrum disorder. Only a competent clinical child psychologist can diagnose them fully and correctly.

purplemashpotato · 2023-09-04T01:38:47+00:00

ask the kids if they taking any pills or medicines, don't just speculate

Tanman55555 · 2023-09-04T06:30:45+00:00

Sometimes when i started adderal i would cry for no reason It was wild Notmal inside and crying on the outside

SurgeStories · 2023-09-04T12:11:22+00:00

Damn, I should have known that shit was bad before I freaking ate it. I only was on it for a brief period of time before my parents decided I didn’t need it because my case of ADHD isn’t nearly as bad as my younger brother’s. I think my brother might still be on it, but I’m not really sure if it’s for better or for worse. He has some serious anger issues and my dad practically has to do his homework with him while he shouts and swears at the top of his lungs. My brother is almost a teenager and has been doing this ever since he’s had to do homework.

Rogue260 · 2023-09-04T13:15:55+00:00

All these mental health problems are invented by women with psychology degrees. Since they knew that if the didn't invent new diseases they would be out of jobs, they invented all sorts of new diseases. And then because if their misandry, they targeted those diseases towards boys and men, so that they can keep them medicated and subdued.

Title	I coach a girls and boys basketball team, this year something odd happened
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Date	September 3, 2023 4:35 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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